May 15 2016, 02:28 PM
QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ May 15 2016, 02:12 PM)
For he who supposedly is not angry, your reply proves otherwise. Anyway...
1. I have done extensive research BEFORE applying for visas. Spoken to agents, did thorough read throughs. Clearly you're offended by the fact that your response indicates as such.
2. I have provided you links. The points system is CLEARLY there. See under 'the points test- invitation pathways'. Or, just in case, here's an attachment:
3. Now, you have indicated I should speak about credentials given that you said you hold a 190 pr and have 5-6 years of working experience. I have more than 5 friends that are holding PR in australia. Some citizenship. My brother holds a PR as well as his girlfriend. His close friend is a lawyer and a migration lawyer helping many foreigners to obtain their PR.------> Use an agent if that is what you want. Don't come here and ask for advice, seeing that you HAVE the so-called resources and such to request such things. After all, your brother/ gf got their PR. Doesnt make a difference as Border updates things every 1 July EVERY YEAR. But then again, you'd know that right.
4. YOu seem frustrated for someone who supposedly knows what he's talking about. From your statement, I still conclude you either have not come across the right info, or your frustrated because there seems to be barely any options for you to seemingly apply for a visa.
As for number 5 hahaha as if. My SOL is nothing most who apply work under. Majority who apply are engineers/ lawyers/ accountants.
How to assess skills if you've no experience? VETASSES, APC & other assessment bodies have not granted favourable replies to applicant. But then again, you know this so yeah.And if you say people you know got their visas without working experience, then good for them. It might be a case of luck or a loophole somewhere, who knows. YOu can either: take the exact same path, or B, don't. Up to you however you want to spend your dosh.
Also, when applying, you'll be asked to provide payslips/ tax forms/ letter of employments/ testimonials etc.
I have more than 5-6 working experience but in a non-related field, plus the Skilled Occupation that I came under has few applicants so chance were high. Also, even then, as on Decemeber 2015, regulation on that SO has changed.
As for your aim to be a kitchen help/ waiter help idea, perhaps it would have been helpful to share what visa you plan to work under. One alternative is to do the working/holiday visa and from there work. But then again, as I've said. YOu probably know this what, from your reply up above.
I have concluded it will be a total waste of my time to continue further.. Thanks for your advice though. If you want reason why i regard it will be a total waste of my time:1. I have done extensive research BEFORE applying for visas. Spoken to agents, did thorough read throughs. Clearly you're offended by the fact that your response indicates as such.
2. I have provided you links. The points system is CLEARLY there. See under 'the points test- invitation pathways'. Or, just in case, here's an attachment:
3. Now, you have indicated I should speak about credentials given that you said you hold a 190 pr and have 5-6 years of working experience. I have more than 5 friends that are holding PR in australia. Some citizenship. My brother holds a PR as well as his girlfriend. His close friend is a lawyer and a migration lawyer helping many foreigners to obtain their PR.------> Use an agent if that is what you want. Don't come here and ask for advice, seeing that you HAVE the so-called resources and such to request such things. After all, your brother/ gf got their PR. Doesnt make a difference as Border updates things every 1 July EVERY YEAR. But then again, you'd know that right.
4. YOu seem frustrated for someone who supposedly knows what he's talking about. From your statement, I still conclude you either have not come across the right info, or your frustrated because there seems to be barely any options for you to seemingly apply for a visa.
As for number 5 hahaha as if. My SOL is nothing most who apply work under. Majority who apply are engineers/ lawyers/ accountants.
How to assess skills if you've no experience? VETASSES, APC & other assessment bodies have not granted favourable replies to applicant. But then again, you know this so yeah.And if you say people you know got their visas without working experience, then good for them. It might be a case of luck or a loophole somewhere, who knows. YOu can either: take the exact same path, or B, don't. Up to you however you want to spend your dosh.
Also, when applying, you'll be asked to provide payslips/ tax forms/ letter of employments/ testimonials etc.
I have more than 5-6 working experience but in a non-related field, plus the Skilled Occupation that I came under has few applicants so chance were high. Also, even then, as on Decemeber 2015, regulation on that SO has changed.
As for your aim to be a kitchen help/ waiter help idea, perhaps it would have been helpful to share what visa you plan to work under. One alternative is to do the working/holiday visa and from there work. But then again, as I've said. YOu probably know this what, from your reply up above.
1) I already mention no need to further delve into the point test as the point test and being nominated as a skilled person in SOL list is 2 different things. Point test is under requirement number 4. Nomination and skill assessment is under requirement number 1 & 2. They are 2 different things although you need to do them together when submitting for migration (I think, doesn't matter what's the procedure for now, I can clarify that later on as it's not that important as long as I have everything ready as this is just a matter of procedure). (I.E, you can pass your skill assessment but still lack of points under the point test system, however vice versa is not possible, so in away passing the skill assessment is a pre-requisite to point test you could say although you'd definitely need both, but your argument is I will not be able to pass my skill assessment given that I do not have working experience. Then later you posted something from the point test which is a totally different requirement (Can you see your conflict here?). After that you talk about other assessing bodies that doesn't assess accountants which is totally irrelevant.)
2) VETASSES doesn't assess accountants..... those fresh grads getting their pr must be really lucky then.
3) No need to sound sarcastic. I believe I have clearly stated my reasons for posting. And yes everything that you have stated, honestly, I knew it already... That is why again, I am not posting to ask for help as to how to acquire PR or Visa.. I am asking about job prospect and etc to consider compared to working in Australia and Malaysia.
And nope, I am not angry, like I said, I stand to be corrected, but you appear to me as someone that is very authoritative and has quite a bit of ego choosing to focus on something that someone could possibly not achieve measured by your standards and knowledge which shows that you are a person that claims to think he knows everything as nowhere in your message points any modesty at all. If I am like you, I don't think I will be posting in this forum to gather more insights as to what people think.
Now (with a BIG SIGH), are we done? so we can get back on track.
This post has been edited by xoxlifestyle100: May 15 2016, 02:31 PM
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