So to those who are having similar issue can either go to SC and ask them to change the SAT button or try to vacuum the button first and see if it works.

This is only my 5 cents. 

Sent the car to SC already,  problem is with the spark plug. Only 8k km on the odo and need change already rm 56 somemore haih

Just want to share about CVT.

Earlier this month I was telling about the SAT button is the culprit which is causing issues to the CVT.

Now I even have stronger reason to believe that the SAT button is memang the one causing the CVT light to light up and go off as many encounter before or still having the issues.

I have tried to drive with the SAT button ON for quite some time now, and the CVT light has not light up since.

I have also tried to vacuum the SAT button using a quite powerful vacuum and been driving with the SAT button off since and the CVT light has not light up as well.

This shows that with the SAT button ON, the button is always in the ON position (is clicked down) so it does not cause any issues.

But when the button is OFF, the button is sitting there like a weak didi that will vibrate whenever the car goes over a pothole / bump. Over time I believe it somehow like touches (the contact point) the ON button BUT it's not really ON as it's not clicked downwards hard enough.

Another reason is, when the button is OFF, dirt tends to get underneath the button and eventually causing the same issue. I guess this is what happen to my button as I can see that the area around my button got quite a lot of fine dust/particles as previously I only wipe like a bit and never really wipe clean clean nor vacuum it.

The conclusion I can make is the SAT button memang bodoh stupiakk shit. I think the SAT button is the one causing the CVT light to light up 90% of the time in all FLX CVT. 10% might be the CVT light light up because the CVT memang ada problem like overheat or belt sensor or etc.

Below is what I recently got from gaga fb group:



So to those who are having similar issue can either go to SC and ask them to change the SAT button or try to vacuum the button first and see if it works.

This is only my 5 cents. 

Ini kon9lan7fem kena conned liao

WHYYY 
but it seems to work, my car can start up properly without much problem now so..

WHYYY 
but it seems to work, my car can start up properly without much problem now so..

You might got the point there. Exora also have this SAT button button didnt see any problem like Saga. Might be due to the SAT button on Exora are on slanting surface which lower the risk of collecting dust compare to our Saga.

Change sparkplug or not, your car will work fine. I live with that headbanging long WUEKEKKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK start car issue until 80k km baru change sepak berak

Dont be surpise if it happen again. Even the SC have no clue on what cause the problem.

This reminds me, I haven been wuekekeke for a month now after I changed the fuel pump. Usually my Gaga will have this problem at least once a week.

Yeahh. One reason would be the button on Exora is slanting which lower the risk of collecting dust and the other reason would be the SAT button on Exora is a better quality button thus not causing any issues.

For myself, I feel it's fun (eventho on the other hand it's annoying) to try and rectify any issue on the car. It's also a valuable experience.

It's much more adventurous to slowly pin point the cause of the issue and solve it slowly rather than go SC waste time and money yet in the end they also don't know much and the only thing they do is to patch/clear (for the CVT they clear the fault codes) the issue temporarily until the owner got back to SC again and again and again and in the end feduppp and just leave it until it breakdown. 



I facepalm hard to most SC as they are 101% clueless and aint know shit of what they are doing most of the time...     

 
ya I thought so too haih

but cause really cannot start like WUEKEKEKKEKEKE for 2 days straight also tak boleh and I dw spoil my new car even when can start it will die suddenly and the car will shake like mad, worst than engine mounting kaput vibration
after they change spark plugs then no problem already...

it happened so suddenly and cause I take care of my car properly so I would do anything for it 

Dont be surpise if it happen again. Even the SC have no clue on what cause the problem.

This reminds me, I haven been wuekekeke for a month now after I changed the fuel pump. Usually my Gaga will have this problem at least once a week.

just put a paper underneath the switch so it wont come in contact with the circuit.

bukannya ada guna pun SAT tu. lol

plotong have been like that since savvy (if you knew the story behind it). so it's not biggy deal anyway.

there are pros and cons buying/owning a plotong car. EVERYONE SHOULD knew that. so we should be expecting them when buying it.

btw, u simply cannot blame the SC totally. SC is like PC technician in IT world. when problems like usb drive cannot detect digital signature, who to blame. of course la you all blame IT one. but the real one should blame Microsoft one. but it's the technician's work is to solve the problem, by. patching Windows updates. But do really Microsoft assists on the matter? NO way. so when the technician found out the solutions, then he will transfers his knowledge to others. and that's what you got in the internet. simply google

same like this thread existences. all of us have or not experiences with their car problems. we are fortunate to have some petrol head, car enthusiasts etc.

i want to know how long did you crank start before stop by releasing the key?
fyi,you can crank start for about 5 minutes non stop. no, it will not spoil your car actually.

That's exactly what I'm thinking of bro.

I actually plan to remove the button altogether as I'm not using it at all but no time yet to open the thing.

Maybe will try  to do it next week when I'm free. 
I agree but you see unlike others (Perodua and Toyota), Proton don't even want to listen to their customers. I'm saying this based on my personal experience. I mean is it really hard to accept opinion from customers. Some customers may know what's the cause of the issue and what's the solution but they will never agree on it.

I have even emailed Punch regarding the CVT issue and guess what, the technician acknowledged on the issue and even gave their mobile no and requested me to go to Proton COSE Shah Alam and ask them (Proton technician/engineer) to contact Punch to work on the solution (bear in mind that Punch do have the solution at this stage) but no shit it near impossible to happen.

To be honest, Punch gearbox is quite reliable especially after they have fitted the CVT with oil cooler. I would dare say it's very very unlikely the CVT will have any issue if it's taken care well (change oil and filter at the required interval).

The only issue now is the SAT button. Because of this Punch is getting the bad image.

Hence, as what I said earlier.

normal la protong. what should you expect anyway.
zaman savvy pun macam tu jugak 

Just want to share about CVT.

Earlier this month I was telling about the SAT button is the culprit which is causing issues to the CVT.

Now I even have stronger reason to believe that the SAT button is memang the one causing the CVT light to light up and go off as many encounter before or still having the issues.

I have tried to drive with the SAT button ON for quite some time now, and the CVT light has not light up since.

I have also tried to vacuum the SAT button using a quite powerful vacuum and been driving with the SAT button off since and the CVT light has not light up as well.

This shows that with the SAT button ON, the button is always in the ON position (is clicked down) so it does not cause any issues.

But when the button is OFF, the button is sitting there like a weak didi that will vibrate whenever the car goes over a pothole / bump. Over time I believe it somehow like touches (the contact point) the ON button BUT it's not really ON as it's not clicked downwards hard enough.

Another reason is, when the button is OFF, dirt tends to get underneath the button and eventually causing the same issue. I guess this is what happen to my button as I can see that the area around my button got quite a lot of fine dust/particles as previously I only wipe like a bit and never really wipe clean clean nor vacuum it.

The conclusion I can make is the SAT button memang bodoh stupiakk shit. I think the SAT button is the one causing the CVT light to light up 90% of the time in all FLX CVT. 10% might be the CVT light light up because the CVT memang ada problem like overheat or belt sensor or etc.

Below is what I recently got from gaga fb group:



So to those who are having similar issue can either go to SC and ask them to change the SAT button or try to vacuum the button first and see if it works.

This is only my 5 cents. 

later u remove SAT button CVT warning light on lol

the problem is that they either DONT know about the issue or they DONT wanna exchange the unit hahaha 

but likewise like what david say also may be one of the culprit but that one i belive shud b more "major" issue right? as it required to remove whole thing and replace the belt sensor

I doubt so as the switch is just a typical cheapskate ON OFF switch.

By removing the switch, it will be like permanently OFF.

But anyway, we'll see how it goes...
Yeap... 

Iska,

When u turn key it goes Wuekekekkekekekkekekeke vroom got few scenario

1) Does not happen when engine was cold. It happened when engine hot/after long distance/serius traffic jam, normally injector noozle jammed will have balance fuel dakung in combustian chamber. When trying to ignite, overflowed fuel will wet the spark plug. Normally the cranking freuqncy is fast. This is normal for all cars. However, if getting serius should clean injector. Need to send for high frequency vibration injector cleaning, not buy a can of rubbish fuel additive.

2) Weaken sparkplug can also cause hard crank start. Ignition core distance too far from contact point, as a result less spark created insufficient to ignite air/fuel mixture. Experience mechanics able to calibrate ignition core to most efficient setup.

3) Independant ignition coil problem. The voltage transformer unable to generate enough electricity to the sparkplug. Need to send SC to check/replace. Kenjilew used to have this problem, but suddenly his GaGa self healed.

Last but not least:  Face problem. Go for plastic surgery.