Fourth!

I respect your decision as the TS but in my opinion closing the thread for 2 3 people who can't keep this mouth shut is not very good. I mean closing the thread would stop us from sharing and discussing.

Maybe we should just report them and continue our sharing/discussion as usual.

Just my 2 cents...

What?! But do you think it's true ?

I personally think even if it's true, it won't damage the whole CVT unit. The worst should be the TCU and TCU won't really cost a bomb right ?

It's only the electronic circuit that's damaged.

I have two jumper cable in my boot. If this is seriously true, then I should take it out before I forget about this and use it.

I have seen a few of my friends jump start their flx CVT as well and so far none have had any issues like this.

This is the first time I see issue like this.

Ouchh! I thought 3K was for the whole CVT unit.

Any idea how much would it cost to change to Manual?

Looking at the price...

Now how i really wish Proton used the 4 speed conventional auto... My friend has been using the 4 speed auto for 6 years now no issues at all... Sumore he naik turun genting with his car...

My 5 months old SV the CVT light has been coming on and off... Send SC also tak guna... They just clear the fault codes then say okay siap...

Lucky you. Your CVT light never lit up before at all ?

That's very true bro. All TCU ECU U U U reset also eventually it will come back. I've just gone through it.

For point no 1, i strongly agree it helps. I agree as i have tried to do the same thing many times already and it works. The CVT light will go off and this in turns directly relates to point no 2. I believe the SAT button is the culprit if else why pressing it on and off gets the light to go off. It's like the SAT button is stucked in the middle between ON and OFF and this is causing the CVT light turn on.

Somehow i believe the SAT button is the one that's causing all the problem. I have heard some people who managed to get their SAT button replaced has managed to get their CVT issue resolved as well.

Now i wonder have anyone tried to remove their SAT button on their own? If there is, I sure would like to remove it as i feel it doesn't benefit anything at all.

Actually I want to remove it on my own but I don't know how to do it and whether there would be any effect (but i don't think there would be other than i won't have the SAT functionality anymore, which i don't care at all as long as it solves the problem).

I also don't care warranty void if i remove the SAT button as i already service my car outside.

What's the point of having warranty when light comes up you send SC also they don't know what else to do other than clearing the fault codes.

I believe our engine have very very less problem and if taken care well, should not have any issues even after 5 years.

Just my 2 cents tho...

From now on, i will learn to ignore it.

Well i still personally feel the 4AT gaga is nice. This is what i feel la. And if i was given a choice, I would go for the 4AT instead of this CVT that's manufactured by Punch. I guess a different CVT manufacturer would be better.

Vios =

ABS?

1.6 SE is it ?

Seriously you are very lucky...

Undeniable. Trust me, I love my Kancil 850 injection with the 3 speed AT damn much. I been driving the car for the past 5 years and it has been excellent. I always redline, i mean very frequently redline, like 1st gear until 6.5k rpm (max can push), second gear same and third gear until 7K rpm (speed is 150km/h) can go faster but already on redline so don't want to push further sebab kesian my baby kancil. Even with so harsh driving, gearbox and engine NEVER had any issues. I change gear oil every 40K KM. Change eng oil every 10K (fully synthetic) and it's still rocking and in fact BETTER than my 5 months old gaga. Duhhhh...

Only if i can convert my kancil to a sedan...

Mind explaining how do you know and confirm it is the belt position wonky? Any facts to support your claim?

I have an ODBII scanner and Ive been checking each time the CVT light comes up. From the fault codes, it doesn't look like it's the belt position sensor that's wonky.

It will be helpful if you have any facts or maybe your own experience that you can share to support your claim that's it's the belt position sensor that's wonky.

FYI: Ive also emailed Punch regarding this and according to them, from the fault codes that I gave them, they said that it's more to wiring issue that's causing the CVT light to come up. This again directly relates to the SAT button.

I'm using the buntut type. The fault codes are real as it's confirmed by Punch themselves and the fault codes I get using this buntut type is the same as the PADT Proton uses.

Now your point seems valid and logical. If it's true that the CVT belt is wonky, then yeah by pressing SAT button it would reset the belt position sensor and would explain why the CVT light goes off. But over prolonged period of time if this is not repaired, would not this cause a serious problem to the CVT gearbox?

They are quite a no of gaga CVT owner (on FB group which im following) who said they have the same issue and some have been driving for the past 2 - 3 years with the CVT light ON and OFF and still don't have any issues.

info@punchpowertrain.com

It went to the Belgium HQ and then they forward the email to our local HQ in Shah Alam. From there they got in touch with me. You can email them if you want to.

This increases my doubt on the SAT button. Could it be the culprit to all the CVT issues...

Can bro. No problem.

The only thing is the warranty of course. Say if you car is new and if you send you car to change eng oil, plug, brakes etc to local shops besides Proton SC it will void your car warranty.

Then when you want to change CVT fluid, can send to Proton without any issues.

This is what I'm doing now as well.

You can basically go to Proton for anything you want even you already send your car to "bawah pokok" and your car no more warranty.

I believe one forumer here have been servicing his car at normal shop for quite some time then his car got problem (warranty already void). His car was about time for servicing that time then he tow to Proton and Proton say if you do the service with Proton now we will continue your warranty.

Only 1st and 2nd service I send my car at SC.

3rd service onwards already send bawah pokok...

Btw I send to Seremban SC.

I couldn't remember who...

Just want to share about CVT.

Earlier this month I was telling about the SAT button is the culprit which is causing issues to the CVT.

Now I even have stronger reason to believe that the SAT button is memang the one causing the CVT light to light up and go off as many encounter before or still having the issues.

I have tried to drive with the SAT button ON for quite some time now, and the CVT light has not light up since.

I have also tried to vacuum the SAT button using a quite powerful vacuum and been driving with the SAT button off since and the CVT light has not light up as well.

This shows that with the SAT button ON, the button is always in the ON position (is clicked down) so it does not cause any issues.

But when the button is OFF, the button is sitting there like a weak didi that will vibrate whenever the car goes over a pothole / bump. Over time I believe it somehow like touches (the contact point) the ON button BUT it's not really ON as it's not clicked downwards hard enough.

Another reason is, when the button is OFF, dirt tends to get underneath the button and eventually causing the same issue. I guess this is what happen to my button as I can see that the area around my button got quite a lot of fine dust/particles as previously I only wipe like a bit and never really wipe clean clean nor vacuum it.

The conclusion I can make is the SAT button memang bodoh stupiakk shit. I think the SAT button is the one causing the CVT light to light up 90% of the time in all FLX CVT. 10% might be the CVT light light up because the CVT memang ada problem like overheat or belt sensor or etc.

Below is what I recently got from gaga fb group:



So to those who are having similar issue can either go to SC and ask them to change the SAT button or try to vacuum the button first and see if it works.

This is only my 5 cents.

Yeahh. One reason would be the button on Exora is slanting which lower the risk of collecting dust and the other reason would be the SAT button on Exora is a better quality button thus not causing any issues.

For myself, I feel it's fun (eventho on the other hand it's annoying) to try and rectify any issue on the car. It's also a valuable experience.

It's much more adventurous to slowly pin point the cause of the issue and solve it slowly rather than go SC waste time and money yet in the end they also don't know much and the only thing they do is to patch/clear (for the CVT they clear the fault codes) the issue temporarily until the owner got back to SC again and again and again and in the end feduppp and just leave it until it breakdown.



I facepalm hard to most SC as they are 101% clueless and aint know shit of what they are doing most of the time...

That's exactly what I'm thinking of bro.

I actually plan to remove the button altogether as I'm not using it at all but no time yet to open the thing.

Maybe will try to do it next week when I'm free.

I agree but you see unlike others (Perodua and Toyota), Proton don't even want to listen to their customers. I'm saying this based on my personal experience. I mean is it really hard to accept opinion from customers. Some customers may know what's the cause of the issue and what's the solution but they will never agree on it.

I have even emailed Punch regarding the CVT issue and guess what, the technician acknowledged on the issue and even gave their mobile no and requested me to go to Proton COSE Shah Alam and ask them (Proton technician/engineer) to contact Punch to work on the solution (bear in mind that Punch do have the solution at this stage) but no shit it near impossible to happen.

To be honest, Punch gearbox is quite reliable especially after they have fitted the CVT with oil cooler. I would dare say it's very very unlikely the CVT will have any issue if it's taken care well (change oil and filter at the required interval).

The only issue now is the SAT button. Because of this Punch is getting the bad image.

Hence, as what I said earlier.

Hahaha. Will do it when I have time.

Will update here if by removing the SAT button the issue is resolved.

I doubt so as the switch is just a typical cheapskate ON OFF switch.

By removing the switch, it will be like permanently OFF.

But anyway, we'll see how it goes...

Yeap...

I do the same everytime EXCEPT for revving part as mine is standard noobies...

Does this applies to FLX as well ?

Any reason why 40 ?

Isn't it better to use say 5w-30 ?

Tamao tiow saya budak baru belajar...

Okay I just noticed the location in the video in this link:

http://www.racenotrice.com/titanrevdiysaga.html

It's in Seremban 2.

@TitanRev is from S2 is it ?