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post Oct 31 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Blackdawn @ Oct 31 2015, 03:54 PM)
this is the problem with majority of the Zombies Malaysian nowadays.

1. anyone that doesn't agree with what PKR is doing - BN cybertroopers
2. anyone that criticize PKR - BN cybertroopers
4. When someone trying to debunked PKR stories, RBA goes - Where's the 2.6bil?
5. if you don't vote for BN, you are voting for DAP, vice versa.
6. The Star is twisted, Mkini and Minsider is NEUTRAL.

Again, please understand Electoral Rules before you all even comment about phantom voters / Blackout.

Wonder why none of the DAP actually commented on the Blackout issues? Because they themselves know it's not true.

but guess what, word spreads, lies spreads too, I'm working in Singapore and everyone in Singapore thought that Blackout issue REALLY happened.

How sad, people are just laughing at us, not bringing each other together for a better future, but being stupid by not verifying the truth.
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1. No
2. No
3.?
4. Not me.
5. Could be just refuse to vote. smile.gif
6. The Star is not twisted. It has quite even coverage but at times it portrays the government in quite a favourable light. MalaysiaKini is quite neutral but they report more on problems that BN prefers to be not reported at all. It is more towards the opposition that BN. The Malaysian Insider has gotten it wrong a couple of times.

Not everyone is like that.

But I don't know what is the big deal about being called a BN supporter or a PR supporter in here. So what if one is a BN supporter? Is it something to be ashamed of? Vice versa for a PR supporter.

Blackouts, I wasn't there. But there were some first hand eyewitness accounts of it happening. I don't know if it happened or not. But it quite hard to cheat during the counting. There are so many other better ways to give one side an advantage in an election.

This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Oct 31 2015, 04:15 PM
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post Oct 31 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Blackdawn @ Oct 31 2015, 03:54 PM)

also, those that say they choose DAP because they are the lesser evil.
simply because they never rule before to let you see their darker evil side, Tun M is corrupted, but he keeps everything in control, Najib is corrupted but he's crossing the line, so he's definitely out of the book, anytime.
but for PKR...?settle their internal issue, before going for the bigger pie.
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What if their darker evil side is still way better than the BN "nice" side. laugh.gif

If you want to talk about internal issues, I can see far bigger issues in another party. They have removed a senior leader. They are now contemplating suspending others. A few divisional branches have openly called for their top leader to step down. Someone was sacked when she sued. Even the royalty has applied a bit of pressure to a quick solution to a crisis.

Maybe you should be more concerned with that other party. smile.gif




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post Oct 31 2015, 04:18 PM

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Nah, as a rakyat I think we should be more selfish. Whoever does us good in a long term should stay. Sometimes I even question myself whether candies on election is better than no candy. Coz after election, it seems like everyone reverts to the default politic situation.
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QUOTE(Blackdawn @ Oct 31 2015, 03:54 PM)

simply because they never rule before to let you see their darker evil side, Tun M is corrupted, but he keeps everything in control, Najib is corrupted but he's crossing the line, so he's definitely out of the book, anytime.
but for PKR...?settle their internal issue, before going for the bigger pie.
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What is your point?

That first sentence is as silly as

'You are a rapist and the reason you havent rape is because no sleeping girls was locked in the same room with you'

As if MACC doesnt exist. As if police doesnt exist.

Kek.
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post Oct 31 2015, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Oct 31 2015, 04:14 PM)
What if their darker evil side is still way better than the BN "nice" side.  laugh.gif 

If you want to talk about internal issues, I can see far bigger issues in another party.  They have removed a senior leader.  They are now contemplating suspending others.  A few divisional branches have openly called for their top leader to step down.  Someone was sacked when she sued.  Even the royalty has applied a bit of pressure to a quick solution to a crisis. 

Maybe you should be more concerned with that other party.  smile.gif
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Nar.

He is more concerned because he has no face when people asked about the blackout issue.

Well.

Oh well.
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post Oct 31 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Oct 31 2015, 04:06 PM)
1. No
2. No
3.?
4. Not me.
5. Could be just refuse to vote. smile.gif 
6. The Star is not twisted.  It has quite even coverage but at times it portrays the government in quite a favourable light.  MalaysiaKini is quite neutral but they report more on problems that BN prefers to be not reported at all.  It is more towards the opposition that BN.  The Malaysian Insider has gotten it wrong a couple of times. 

Not everyone is like that. 

But I don't know what is the big deal about being called a BN supporter or a PR supporter in here.  So what if one is a BN supporter?  Is it something to be ashamed of?  Vice versa for a PR supporter. 

Blackouts, I wasn't there. But there were some first hand eyewitness accounts of it happening.  I don't know if it happened or not.  But it quite hard to cheat during the counting.  There are so many other better ways to give one side an advantage in an election.
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The Star doesn't twist news, yes they might not have reported everything but at least they don't twist the fact, unlike other newsportal, twist it to favour other parties or to give a bad name.
The moment wall street journal say they have super concrete evidence of Najib songlap-ing money, I was damn happy, finally it is time for him to come down, but now they just go silence. Why?
Also, try comparing to Singapore news, oh wait, you can't even see a single bad complain, news are all heavily regulated by the Government here.

Blackouts, you weren't there, your "friends" saw it right?
his their our friends all saw it, my friend facebook and youtube saw it too. Exactly, we don't know if it happened or not and yes it is quite hard to cheat because there are people from both parties observing the count !
Think harder, why didn't people like Tony Pua press SO HARD on it if it really happened, no words from DAP at all regarding the blackout issue. why is that? Think again.
Of course i am concerned, because everyone outside Malaysia, are being twisted by the lies and treat it as a joke, and that affects my country currency, and then you complain more and more and more.

when I say they should settle internal issue, is because for only state that they rule, they already have so many troubles internally, and majority of it is because of power and greed, what's more if they're gonna rule the country, what confidence are they showing to the people now?
No, now here comes Zombie, just because i commented on them not doing well on their state, the PKR protector will come and tell me "F OFF SETTLE YOUR OWN BN ISSUE FIRST BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT MY HEAVENLY PKR", its as if I don't know BN is way too corrupted to be saved in anyway.
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QUOTE(Blackdawn @ Oct 31 2015, 04:45 PM)
The Star doesn't twist news, yes they might not have reported everything but at least they don't twist the fact, unlike other newsportal, twist it to favour other parties or to give a bad name.
The moment wall street journal say they have super concrete evidence of Najib songlap-ing money, I was damn happy, finally it is time for him to come down, but now they just go silence. Why?
Also, try comparing to Singapore news, oh wait, you can't even see a single bad complain, news are all heavily regulated by the Government here.

Blackouts, you weren't there, your "friends" saw it right?
his their our friends all saw it, my friend facebook and youtube saw it too. Exactly, we don't know if it happened or not and yes it is quite hard to cheat because there are people from both parties observing the count !
Think harder, why didn't people like Tony Pua press SO HARD on it if it really happened, no words from DAP at all regarding the blackout issue. why is that? Think again.
Of course i am concerned, because everyone outside Malaysia, are being twisted by the lies and treat it as a joke, and that affects my country currency, and then you complain more and more and more.

when I say they should settle internal issue, is because for only state that they rule, they already have so many troubles internally, and majority of it is because of power and greed, what's more if they're gonna rule the country, what confidence are they showing to the people now?
No, now here comes Zombie, just because i commented on them not doing well on their state, the PKR protector will come and tell me "F OFF SETTLE YOUR OWN BN ISSUE FIRST BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT MY HEAVENLY PKR", its as if I don't know BN is way too corrupted to be saved in anyway.
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Zombie.

Who did you voted last time? Nope i did not vote pkr or dap.

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Malu la singaporeans looking down at your blackout liao.
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post Oct 31 2015, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Oct 31 2015, 12:04 PM)
Why are BN apologists often labeled condescendingly as cybertroopers, while PR apologists are not called the same way?
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Coz people with half brain would not support BN
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post Oct 31 2015, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Oct 31 2015, 04:53 PM)
Coz people with half brain would not support BN
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But but zombie otak udang here said PKR/PaS/Opposition is not perfect.

How????

What can they do?
They can only vote for perfect party.


They can only vote for perfect man


They cannot vote for some potential evil people, since they themselves are potential rapists.

Ph crap. Lets vote back.bee end .


I will vote opposition when they are perfect.


Malu la let my singaporean friends know that i vote less than perfect opposition party.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Oct 31 2015, 04:57 PM)
But but zombie otak udang here said PKR/PaS/Opposition is not perfect.

How????

What can they do? 
They can only vote for perfect party.
They can only vote for perfect man
They cannot vote for some potential evil people, since they themselves are potential rapists.

Ph crap. Lets vote back.bee end .
I will vote opposition when they are perfect.
Malu la let my singaporean friends know that i vote less than perfect opposition party.
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don't support bn doesn't mean they will support opposition icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 31 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Blackdawn @ Oct 31 2015, 04:45 PM)
The Star doesn't twist news, yes they might not have reported everything but at least they don't twist the fact, unlike other newsportal, twist it to favour other parties or to give a bad name.
The moment wall street journal say they have super concrete evidence of Najib songlap-ing money, I was damn happy, finally it is time for him to come down, but now they just go silence. Why?
Also, try comparing to Singapore news, oh wait, you can't even see a single bad complain, news are all heavily regulated by the Government here.

Blackouts, you weren't there, your "friends" saw it right?
his their our friends all saw it, my friend facebook and youtube saw it too. Exactly, we don't know if it happened or not and yes it is quite hard to cheat because there are people from both parties observing the count !
Think harder, why didn't people like Tony Pua press SO HARD on it if it really happened, no words from DAP at all regarding the blackout issue. why is that? Think again.
Of course i am concerned, because everyone outside Malaysia, are being twisted by the lies and treat it as a joke, and that affects my country currency, and then you complain more and more and more.

when I say they should settle internal issue, is because for only state that they rule, they already have so many troubles internally, and majority of it is because of power and greed, what's more if they're gonna rule the country, what confidence are they showing to the people now?
No, now here comes Zombie, just because i commented on them not doing well on their state, the PKR protector will come and tell me "F OFF SETTLE YOUR OWN BN ISSUE FIRST BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT MY HEAVENLY PKR", its as if I don't know BN is way too corrupted to be saved in anyway.
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Err......WSJ reported what they had. They don't have more. Furthermore, they are a global financial newspaper, they cover so many countries and so many topics related to finance, investment, stocks, business.

And Malaysia is just one country. You really expected them to have more reports? Have a reporter assigned to chase up on more leads about 1MDB? Is it even possible as a lot of information is not accessible to anyone? Even in Malaysia, the investigations seem to have gotten nowhere. You expect a US newspaper to do more?

I didn't say The Star twisted the news. I actually said it is not twisted. biggrin.gif

I am familiar with the Singapore newspapers, having read them for years.

Not my friends, but there were so called first hand witnesses. But I don't know whether it is true or not. I have already said that. You want me to dismiss it entirely? I also don't know enough to do that as well.

Why do you single out Tony Pua? Such allegations are hard to prove. Also, I doubt he knows enough to dismiss the allegations either. Just like above.

Besides, the Election Committee claimed that no one reported any blackouts. You want Tony Pua to echo the EC and say "hey, no blackouts occurred according to the EC."?

Maybe you should think a bit about this.

I don't think our currency was affected by allegations of election fraud. If anything, the outcome of the last GE, where BN won again might have brought some confidence to the economy and the Ringgit.

Think about that too, will ya? Think about what is really affecting our currency.

Oh, now I am a zombie is it? You started it by saying -

"settle their internal issue, before going for the bigger pie."

which is similar to -

"F OFF SETTLE PR ISSUE FIRST BEFORE THEY EVEN AIM FOR PUTRAJAYA"

I am just telling you to also be concerned with the other party. Since you have shown so much concern about PR/PH.

Unless your concern is only for PR/PH.

Why is that so? BN, the party that is in power and would continue to be in power for a while, who is the one that is more likely to affect your life (maybe not yours since you are in SG) but those of us here, is not worthy of your concern at all?

I wonder about your sense of importance here.

This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Oct 31 2015, 05:18 PM
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post Oct 31 2015, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Oct 31 2015, 03:42 PM)
Ala.

Talk so much just tell you gonna vote bijan songlap la.

What so ashame about it?

Give br1m. Bb1m. So kind. So concerned about the poor.

Tak yah malu malu la.
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As much as I hate you red bean armies, I'll never vote BN.

Racist does not have to wear red shirt and be an ultra Malay. They can be other races and wears yellow shirt too.

I'm sure you're in the BR1M bracket. So you will also need Bijan.

I give bad remarks on Jib 90% of the time, never see Seiji or Toyotasupra be in denial mode. When I say something neutral or bad about your RBA lies, you sure come out to reply me.

I'm sure there's some payment from your boss right?
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QUOTE(rigmortis @ Oct 31 2015, 05:22 PM)
As much as I hate you red bean armies, I'll never vote BN.

Racist does not have to wear red shirt and be an ultra Malay. They can be other races and wears yellow shirt too.

I'm sure you're in the BR1M bracket. So you will also need Bijan.

I give bad remarks on Jib 90% of the time, never see Seiji or Toyotasupra be in denial mode. When I say something neutral or bad about your RBA lies, you sure come out to reply me.

I'm sure there's some payment from your boss right?
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Ah here comes the personal attack of troopers.

Sorry to disappoint you. Many years ago my first job i was making more than 2.5k a month.

RBA? only mindless drones like you would believe that.

Typical educated penjilat.

Ever wonder why with more people like you educated but the country is not really heading in the right direction?

Why with more peoplelike you getting educated but instead of comparing with taiwan korea in the 70s to 80s, now we dont even have the cheek to compare with indonesia thailand?

Because people like you are just not helping.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Oct 31 2015, 05:34 PM)
Ah here comes the personal attack of troopers.

Sorry to disappoint you. Many years ago my first job i was making more than 2.5k a month.

RBA? only mindless drones like you would believe that.

Typical educated penjilat.

Ever wonder why with more people like you educated but the country is not really heading in the right direction? 

Why with more peoplelike you getting educated but instead of comparing with taiwan korea in the 70s to 80s, now we dont even have the cheek to compare with indonesia thailand?

Because people like you are just not helping.
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Apologies then. But in the first case, then talk sensibly like an adult in your initial reply. When I am a little rude in replies, you say I "personal attack" you.
But, it's OK for you to be rude? The way you reply, to anybody who does not support PR/PH (and we are not even BN supporter) is so typical.

But seriously la, my initial salary was lower than yours. If it makes you happier. I am doing fine now, BTW.

PR is not perfect, but voted them. They are better alternative to the one we have now. But if you guys are giving us the rakyats half-truths and sensationalisation of simple matters, this is not going to help your course in the long run.

I said this before and I will say this again (hopefully no saman la), people will get smart. They will not be so easily duped again by sensationalised / twisted news and half-truths. We want a stable economy and it will not be achieved if we cannot think in a mature fashion.

I am not alone. A few of us have spoken out here - and you disagreed totally with us. And we might still vote for PH/PR, but we do not enjoy getting lied to. The Bangla voters lie in GE13 was so preposterous that, even I being a person with just average IQ , could not swallow.

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I thought everyone already know since ages ago that this Lim Sian See is BN lapdog?
He will nickpick on anything and everything that Pakatan/opposition does. Pretty much like some pro UNNO bloggers
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Oct 31 2015, 06:49 PM)
I thought everyone already know since ages ago that this Lim Sian See is BN lapdog?
He will nickpick on anything and everything that Pakatan/opposition does. Pretty much like some pro UNNO bloggers
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He created a niche market for himself lerrr

Chinese pro BN blogger

I'm envious of him.
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LOL

anything that critics on PH = BN cybertrooper

so much for the so-called freedom of choice/freedom of expression

so any RBA who cover behind other name & whacking BN is a OK, in the name of justice

but the same cannot been done by BN or PH scumbag will cry foul


this is just as same as takde telor Tony Pua who challenge Arul Kanda for debate..when Arul accpet the challenge & counter challenge Tony Pua to resign from PAC post, suddenly Tony Pua chickened out..suddenly say debate will give no benefit whatever the outcome..when Arul said its OK can retain the PAC post & continue the debate program, suddenly Tony Pua said it will be only he question while Arul can only answer the question, A BIG NO-NO for two way counter-check conversation

DAP scumbag logic No 1 = I can hit u but u cannot hit me back or i will cry foul

DAP scumbag logic No 2 = I can create dupe to hit BN but BN cannot create dupe to hit me or i will expose it & cry foul

DAP scumbag logic No 3 = I can do & agree to whatever i want without need consent from my political partner but my political partner cannot do the same or i will cry foul & threaten to leave the coaliton or throw my partner out of coalition


BODO SOMBONG

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Oct 31 2015, 07:11 PM)
LOL

anything that critics on PH = BN cybertrooper

so much for the so-called freedom of choice/freedom of expression

so any RBA who cover behind other name & whacking BN is a OK, in the name of justice

but the same cannot been done by BN or PH scumbag will cry foul
this is just as same as takde telor Tony Pua who challenge Arul Kanda for debate..when Arul accpet the challenge & counter challenge Tony Pua to resign from PAC post, suddenly Tony Pua chickened out..suddenly say debate will give no benefit whatever the outcome..when Arul said its OK can retain the PAC post & continue the debate program, suddenly Tony Pua said it will be only he question while Arul can only answer the question, A BIG NO-NO for two way counter-check conversation

DAP scumbag logic No 1 = I can hit u but u cannot hit me back or i will cry foul

DAP scumbag logic No 2 = I can create dupe to hit BN but BN cannot create dupe to hit me or i will expose it & cry foul

DAP scumbag logic No 3 = I can do & agree to whatever i want without need consent from my political partner but my political partner cannot do the same or i will cry foul & threaten to leave the coaliton or throw my partner out of coalition
BODO SOMBONG
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Interesting that you see it as Tony Pua chickening out.

Arul imposed a condition. Why should Tony Pua agree to that condition? And when he doesn't agree, it is viewed as chickening out?

Lets say you challenge me to a debate. I say sure, but you must debate in the nude. You don't agree. Are you chickening out? laugh.gif

Also, lets not forget that Tony Pua wanted a talk show. But Arul said debate.

As for the rest of your post, I won't bother to address it as your premise is already off.


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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Oct 31 2015, 02:03 PM)
Only showed that you are arrogant, that's all.
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i saw enough a lot of /k/tard in many tered becum very hostile towards PAS, towards UMNO, toward BN, & sometime even towards PKR when they didnt agree with the parties

so why cant i becum hostile too..???

so having an independent opinion that differ from ur opinion is considered arrogant?? only ur opinion matters? mine is not?

i cant practice my freedom of choice?
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Oct 31 2015, 07:16 PM)
i saw enough a lot of /k/tard in many tered becum very hostile towards PAS, towards UMNO, toward BN, & sometime even towards PKR when they didnt agree with the parties

so why cant i becum hostile too..???

so having an independent opinion that differ from ur opinion is considered arrogant?? only ur opinion matters? mine is not?

i cant practice my freedom of choice?
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You can. Just that you were arrogant.

Oh, please. You went way beyond just having a different opinion as mine.

Go look back on your post.



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