becos Tony Pua is still in the PAC that related directly to 1MDB issue..he cannot be judge, jury and executioner all at the same time..see the logic..??

& what Arul did is just what a brassball guy will do, A COUNTER CHALLENGE..he accepted a challenge from Tony Pua for debate & he counter challenge Tony Pua to resign from PAC, meaning that Tony Pua must becum a neutral person..see the logic...???

bu did Tony Pua accept the challenge..?? NO...he chickened out

when Arul in the end accept that Tony Pua doesnt need to resign his post, Tony Pua said it will not be a debate but a question-answer session where it will only Tony Pua question & Arul can only answer without any counter-check conversation with Tony Pua

this is what i called a scumbag attitude; I can challenge u but u cannot counter challenge me..I can hit u but u cannot hit me back..I can question u but u cannot question me back..

so much for a oxford uni grad level

talk-show..????????????????/ pleaseeeeee.........................its Tony Pua who said it 1st that its a DEBATE, A DEBATE..after that then he change to a 'talk-show'

This post has been edited by keown83: Oct 31 2015, 07:27 PM

Eh..I thought I already cleared that up.

Tony Pua did not chicken out. Arul attached a condition, i.e. Tony Pua resign from PAC. Tony Pua did not agree (it was not a reasonable condition anyway). That is not chickening out.

Same analogy as you debating in the nude.

I believe it was talk show.

See -

http://english.astroawani.com/business-new...-tony-pua-78553



Astro Awani neutral enough for you?

how does resign from PAC is considered become nude..???

u want a debate, u need to be neutral

look at Arul response;



see..?? Tony Pua cannot be judge, jury and executioner all at the same time..

it was like a police who involved directly to some criminal case challenge the criminal for a debate..u want a debate, u ask other neutral party or u resign from ur post

how about Tony's recent goal post's shift?? at 1st said that it is a debate...suddenly said its a talk-show, even that so its a 1-way comm, only Tony can question & Arul can only answer

now how we cant see this as a scumbag attitude...???

ya la..but 1-way comm only..Only Tony can question while Arul can only answer

u think its fair..??? Arul cannot counter question on Tony..???

what is this??? is this a talk show or is this a live interrogation..???

This post has been edited by keown83: Oct 31 2015, 07:45 PM

some people attack whichever parties that they feel is wrong

some people only attack 1

u know which are you.

Analogy lah.

You won't debate in the nude. I won't call you chicken lah.

Tony Pua already said PAC is far more important than a talk show. Getting to the bottom of 1MDB is far more important than a talk show. Arul can just show up and talk and talk and talk but we still might not be any closer to getting to the bottom of the truth about 1MDB.

OK, you keep insisting that Tony offered to debate. I already provided Astro Awani's report. Can you provide something to substantiate your claim?

Else, there is no shifting of the goal post lah.

And if you keep insisting that there is without anything to substantiate it, that would really be a scumbag attitude which you detest so much. Well, at least you appear to detest so much.

He offer RM50K reward. I want to ask, is from own pocket or somewhere else?

agreed

imma najiboon fenbui btw so i wont mind

u can even ignore buttoned me if u like

i just becum hostile just as gud as /k/tard here who acted the same thing

freedom of expression, anyone...???

or is it only applicable when it please ur kind...???

So, you AGREE it is now a TALK SHOW and NOT A DEBATE?

Lets go back a bit further to how all this started.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/317595

Excerpt -

Tony made the challenge after Arul's live interview with Bernama TV.

That one already like talk show. So, Tony Pua offered his services to be the one being the interviewer.

Arul was fine being interviewed on Bernama TV.

Lets see how well he would do with Tony Pua as the interviewer.

Sounds like a decent challenge to me.

Fair too as Arul had an easy time with Bernama TV.

talk about freedom of speech so much

but then so marah with a simple statement from me.

you are the same as those u marah marah , or those u use as excuse to justify ur action. 2 wrong won't make 1 correct

so only Tony Pua can challenge Arul & give condition but Arul cannot..???

ok its a talk-show if u wanna call it even if its actually a debate..

what no goal-post shifting..Tony suddenly give new condition that it will only he question while Arul can only answer..Arul cannot do counter check with Tony in the talk-show

apa ni..??? talk show ka soal-siasat live on TV...???




"I can hit u but u cant hit me"

I think you should give up. 3 posts and he still refuses to accept that the latest challenge which Arul replied and agreed to was a televised talk show and not a debate. Whether or not Arul and the media intentionally turned it into a debate is uncertain at the moment.

He has been consistent that it'll be a talk show to allow 1mdb to answer his questions. It was never a debate. It's Arul and the media who are saying it's a debate all of a sudden. Why is that Tony's fault? He didn't set any condition for the live talk show challenge. You can attack him for not being bold enough but you can't say he's shifting the goal post.

This post has been edited by neoexcaliber: Oct 31 2015, 07:56 PM

Arul can challenge. I never said Arul cannot challenge. Go look through my posts.

You called Tony Pua chicken, I disagreed with that, that is all.

Still insisting it is a debate ah? Takpelah, if that is your attitude.

I already provided two articles that say it is a talk show and not a debate. Even Arul used the words talk show initially.

Soal-siasat ke, interbiu ke. Takpelah. As long as we get closer to the truth about 1MDB, that would be good.

u call it talk-show, i call it a debate..it OK

1st, u still didnt answer on how its logically possible for a PAC member to do a talk-show with 1MDB..??? it was like a police handling a criminal case having a talk-show with a suspect..?? do u ever see it happening anywhere..??

he said interview session..but then he requested that it will only he question while Arul answer..so Arul cannot counter-check with Tony meh..?? Arul cannot ask the credibility of Tony's information like Tony's connection with Justo for example..??

as u know Justo already being for a trial in Thailand as its a confirm the data he received is a fabricated data

BTW, Tony Pua recently in the end backed down on the so-called TALK-SHOW with Arul

why...???

Arul has now said yes. It is LOGICALLY possible already.

Tony Pua has defined the boundaries right from the start. Refer to the earlier MalaysiaKini article. I repost the pertinent parts.

“Since Arul proudly proclaimed that there is absolutely no cover-up to 1MDB, may I humbly propose that the 1MDB president attends a ‘live’ talk show which I will host and ask the questions.

“He will be given every opportunity and as much time as he likes to answer these questions.



No shifting of goal posts.

But I can cite this, cite that but seems you are just sticking to the same arguments as before.

becos Arul know there's nothing to hide even though its illogical to make it happen



literally he said, "OK Tony..talk-show, debate, disscussion, whatever..bring it on"

but now Tony Pua already backed down on his so-called Talk-Show with only a question & answer session..so Arul cannot question on any of Tony's information integrity..more like its even OK for Tony to ask a 'gossip-level' of question as Arul cannot counter check the integrity..I ask, U answer, thats all & thats it

doesnt that sound like an interrogation live on TV..??? why Arul cannot counter question Tony..??? why Arul cannot question Tony's connection with Justo for example..???

if that is not a chicken, i dun know what is

This post has been edited by keown83: Oct 31 2015, 08:19 PM

Why do you insist that Arul must be able to question Tony?

What do Arul have to ask to Tony? Does the suspect in a trial question the judge or jury or lawyer?

I mildly agree that it is not the right time for a member of PAC investigation team to reveal the findings; sensitive matters will be blurted out in the heat of any debate, regardless if the format is a debate or talk-show. I mostly get news sources from Star and it's still mentioned as debate though.

You are on point that PAC role of accounting for the 1MDB scandal by far outweighs any gain from a talk show. A public talk-show request will always be popular to the public for entertainment purpose, but popular move in this instance is not the right move.

As for the judge, jury and executioner role of Tony, it's not even worth pointing out by Keown. There may not even have been any neutrality amongst the investigators. And we are pretty sure Tony has pre-assumption that Arul and party is guilty until proven innocent. His role in PAC is more like to expose any bias from the BN team of investigators.