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Ramjade
post Nov 14 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(terence_say @ Nov 6 2015, 07:03 PM)
Yes, buy from FSM to enjoy low sales charge and transfer to a bank such as UOB OCBC or DBS to avoid platform fees.

Bank do not have any platform fees, so is suitable for long term holding core fund.

Most of the banker will tell you cannot be done because it is a troublesome "sai kang" and do not earn them any revenue point, so find the right person is the crucial part.

In bank prospective view, they are more than happy to take in more unit from FSM because it count to their portfolio AUM.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 11 2015, 07:29 PM)
rclxms.gif Nice trick,..... rclxms.gif I do this too,... but I don't transfer everything out, because need to let my RM in FSM Sgo make some dough too. After all, as an FSM+ investor, need to look after my lady inside.

Edited by adding : hey,.. do they charge you any charges for transferring out ? I know they charge quite a lot for transferring out shares from CDP to any bank.
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Can this trick work with Standard Chartered SG or it's only for DBS/OCBC/UOB?

Hansel You mentioned you are looking at HY USA bonds back in Dec 2015. Did you buy any? Care to share?

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post Nov 14 2016, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 14 2016, 08:45 AM)
Can this trick work with Standard Chartered SG or it's only for DBS/OCBC/UOB?

Hansel You mentioned you are looking at HY USA bonds back in Dec 2015. Did you buy any? Care to share?
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Yes,.. bought and holding. But if US int rates are expected to rise, HY bond prices may drop,... so wait awhile and observe first,....
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post Nov 14 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 14 2016, 11:36 AM)
Yes,.. bought and holding. But if US int rates are expected to rise, HY bond prices may drop,... so wait awhile and observe first,....
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Haven't even open account. Just want to ask if I want to use that trick, better to go with Standard Chartered or DBS?
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post Nov 14 2016, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 14 2016, 11:38 AM)
Haven't even open account. Just want to ask if I want to use that trick, better to go with Standard Chartered or DBS?
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Bro,... go open acct with Phillip Capital, not FSM. Phillip Capital has no platform fees,....
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post Nov 14 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 14 2016, 11:59 AM)
Bro,... go open acct with Phillip Capital, not FSM. Phillip Capital has no platform fees,....
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I was looking at dolardex but service charge is 1%. FSM only 0.35% but since the ninja trick is there, might as well use FSM SG since their service charge is low.



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post Nov 14 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 14 2016, 12:00 PM)
I was looking at dolardex but service charge is 1%. FSM only 0.35% but since the ninja trick is there,  might as well use FSM SG since their service charge is low.
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U mean i buy fsm bond fund then keep for some time.

When do i need to transfer to bank? How to initiate this ? By selling ?
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 14 2016, 01:36 PM)
U mean i buy fsm bond fund then keep for some time.

When do i need to transfer to bank? How to initiate this ? By selling ?
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I have no idea. That's why I want more info regarding this. This applies for equities (FSM SG have platform fees for equities charged every quarter.

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post Nov 19 2016, 09:07 PM

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So the ninja trick is to buy via FSM then transfer to those platform w/o platform fees. hmm.gif

Been with FSM SG for two years only realize how expensive their platform fee is. :swt:
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post Nov 19 2016, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 09:07 PM)
So the ninja trick is to buy via FSM then transfer to those platform w/o platform fees. hmm.gif

Been with FSM SG for two years only realize how expensive their platform fee is. :swt:
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Hansel said use poems.
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post Nov 19 2016, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 19 2016, 09:09 PM)
Hansel said use poems.
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Assuming AUM < $200k.

POEMS sales charge = 0.75%.
DollarDex sales charge = 1.00%.
FSM SG sales charge = 0.35% + perpetual 0.5% p.a platform fee.

From above yes it makes sense to use POEMS as our core platform.
However there's no denying that FSM's interface trumps the other two. bruce.gif

FSM SG feels like a 2016 site.
Dollar Dex feels like a 2013 site.
POEMS? I feel like I'm looking at at 24-hr built mlm site. tongue.gif laugh.gif

But who cares.
Use FSM for charting/reading/resource then buy in POEMS. rclxm9.gif

Too bad there are no good ETFs for Asia/Pacific region compared to UTs.
Else I would have gone 100% ETF.
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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 09:53 PM)
Assuming AUM < $200k.

POEMS sales charge = 0.75%.
DollarDex sales charge = 1.00%.
FSM SG sales charge = 0.35% + perpetual 0.5% p.a platform fee.

From above yes it makes sense to use POEMS as our core platform.
However there's no denying that FSM's interface trumps the other two.  bruce.gif

FSM SG feels like a 2016 site.
Dollar Dex feels like a 2013 site.
POEMS? I feel like I'm looking at at 24-hr built mlm site.  tongue.gif  laugh.gif

But who cares.
Use FSM for charting/reading/resource then buy in POEMS.  rclxm9.gif

Too bad there are no good ETFs for Asia/Pacific region compared to UTs.
Else I would have gone 100% ETF.
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That's what I am going to do. Use FSM charts, fund info to determine what to buy from POEMS. biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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post Nov 19 2016, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 19 2016, 10:01 PM)
That's what I am going to do. Use FSM charts, fund info to determine what to buy from POEMS. biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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If everyone do this later FSM tutup kedai. tongue.gif

Btw mind sharing your holdings for Asia/AsiaPac region?

For me:
- HGIF Asia Ex-Jap Eq Sm Cos SGD AD
- First State Dividend Advantage
- Schroder Asian Growth Fund

in 50% - 25% - 25% allocation. (for Asia/Pac region)

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post Nov 19 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 10:06 PM)
If everyone do this later FSM tutup kedai.  tongue.gif

Btw mind sharing your holdings for Asia/AsiaPac region?

For me:
- HGIF Asia Ex-Jap Eq Sm Cos SGD AD
- First State Dividend Advantage
- Schroder Asian Growth Fund

in 5.0 : 2.5 : 2.5 allocation.
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I don't have a SG SA account yet. Hence I don't have any UT from SG. However since it's in the plan, I will share my allocation.

- HGIF ASIA EX-JAP EQ SM COS SGD AD 12.5%
- UNITED ASIAN HY BOND DIST SGD 12.5%
- UNITED ASIA PAC RE EST INC FD ACC SGD (REITS) 12.5%
- FIRST STATE REGIONAL INDIA FUND 12.5%

I am making AP and US to be 50% each.

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post Nov 19 2016, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 19 2016, 10:13 PM)
I don't have a SG SA account yet. Hence I don't have any UT from SG. However since it's in the plan, I will share my allocation.

- HGIF ASIA EX-JAP EQ SM COS SGD AD 12.5%
- UNITED ASIAN HY BOND DIST SGD  12.5%
- UNITED ASIA PAC RE EST INC FD ACC SGD (REITS) 12.5%
- FIRST STATE REGIONAL INDIA FUND 12.5%

I am making AP and US to be 50% each.
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Cool.
50:50 Asia/US for me too.

US: MGK, VDC, IHI, IHF + Fidelity Global Technology A EUR <- keeping it as it is outperforming my next-in-list, VGT.
Asia: Rojak funds.

This thread seems really quiet compared to the bolehland version.
Let's keep it alive. thumbsup.gif

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post Nov 19 2016, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 10:16 PM)
Cool.
50:50 Asia/US for me too.

US: MGK, VDC, IHI, IHF + Fidelity Global Technology A EUR <- keeping it as it is outperforming my next-in-list, VGT.
Asia: Rojak funds.

This thread seems really quiet compared to the bolehland version.
Let's keep it alive.  thumbsup.gif
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My growth fund will be
FIRST STATE REGIONAL INDIA FUND 12.5%
FIDELITY GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY A EUR 12.5%

In the event if I cannot open account, I will use POEMS money market fund. I am not going to invest anymore in FSM malaysia as it charges 2% SC blink.gif sad.gif compare to POEMS at 0.7%

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 19 2016, 10:20 PM)
My growth fund will be
FIRST STATE REGIONAL INDIA FUND 12.5%
FIDELITY GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY A EUR 12.5%

In the event if I cannot open account, I will use POEMS money market fund. I am not going to invest anymore in FSM malaysia as it charges 2% SC  blink.gif  sad.gif compare to POEMS at 0.7%
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What is poems ?
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post Nov 25 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 25 2016, 10:56 PM)
What is poems ?
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https://www.poems.com.sg/unittrust/
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post Nov 25 2016, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 25 2016, 11:00 PM)
Very interesting.. will study this tmrw esp on d etf. Got to see d commission etc. Thanks alot buddy

For bond funds, which one in your mind?
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 25 2016, 11:12 PM)
Very interesting.. will study this tmrw esp on d etf. Got to see d commission etc. Thanks alot buddy

For bond funds, which one in your mind?
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I think the ETF better go with foreign broker. United Asian HY Bond fund. Use FSM SG to get fund info, buy from POEMS. To make sure you are buying the right one, compare both NAV. That way you won't end up buying the wrong fund.
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post Dec 4 2016, 10:54 AM

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In FSM singapore, I didn't see the option of buy and sell via singapore saving accounts, only from internet bill payment from selected singapore banks?

Means there is no FPX or GIRO service to buy sell funds like in FSM malaysia?

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