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Ramjade
post Oct 26 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 26 2016, 04:01 PM)
I don't know this has been asked but why fsm malaysia has so little funds options?
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That's Singapore. When you are best buddies with US, you get the best of the world. Latest tech, wide selection of investment.
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post Oct 26 2016, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Oct 26 2016, 04:17 PM)
Our asset management industry is not exactly doing well due to the bad reputation that people lose money, UTC just keep selling 'high risk high returns' funds

Oh, and my pet peeve - Got ASx funds and Tabung Haji and voluntary contribution to EPF where the capital is 'not at risk of going below cost', retail investors would not be motivated to go into investments that can lose money lor

So now do you see why I have an issue with these 'capital guaranteed' investments? It hinders our development as a nation in so many ways
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Not to start another war. I don't agree with your statement. Why? Malaysia don't have such stuff but it is up to the individual so seek out those stuff for him/herself. What you want everything to be spoonfeed to you?
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post Nov 12 2016, 04:29 PM

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For those with FSM SG, can look into dollardex.com to save cost.
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post Nov 14 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(terence_say @ Nov 6 2015, 07:03 PM)
Yes, buy from FSM to enjoy low sales charge and transfer to a bank such as UOB OCBC or DBS to avoid platform fees.

Bank do not have any platform fees, so is suitable for long term holding core fund.

Most of the banker will tell you cannot be done because it is a troublesome "sai kang" and do not earn them any revenue point, so find the right person is the crucial part.

In bank prospective view, they are more than happy to take in more unit from FSM because it count to their portfolio AUM.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 11 2015, 07:29 PM)
rclxms.gif Nice trick,..... rclxms.gif I do this too,... but I don't transfer everything out, because need to let my RM in FSM Sgo make some dough too. After all, as an FSM+ investor, need to look after my lady inside.

Edited by adding : hey,.. do they charge you any charges for transferring out ? I know they charge quite a lot for transferring out shares from CDP to any bank.
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Can this trick work with Standard Chartered SG or it's only for DBS/OCBC/UOB?

Hansel You mentioned you are looking at HY USA bonds back in Dec 2015. Did you buy any? Care to share?

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post Nov 14 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 14 2016, 11:36 AM)
Yes,.. bought and holding. But if US int rates are expected to rise, HY bond prices may drop,... so wait awhile and observe first,....
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Haven't even open account. Just want to ask if I want to use that trick, better to go with Standard Chartered or DBS?
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post Nov 14 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 14 2016, 11:59 AM)
Bro,... go open acct with Phillip Capital, not FSM. Phillip Capital has no platform fees,....
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I was looking at dolardex but service charge is 1%. FSM only 0.35% but since the ninja trick is there, might as well use FSM SG since their service charge is low.



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post Nov 14 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 14 2016, 01:36 PM)
U mean i buy fsm bond fund then keep for some time.

When do i need to transfer to bank? How to initiate this ? By selling ?
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I have no idea. That's why I want more info regarding this. This applies for equities (FSM SG have platform fees for equities charged every quarter.

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post Nov 19 2016, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 09:07 PM)
So the ninja trick is to buy via FSM then transfer to those platform w/o platform fees. hmm.gif

Been with FSM SG for two years only realize how expensive their platform fee is. :swt:
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Hansel said use poems.
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post Nov 19 2016, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 09:53 PM)
Assuming AUM < $200k.

POEMS sales charge = 0.75%.
DollarDex sales charge = 1.00%.
FSM SG sales charge = 0.35% + perpetual 0.5% p.a platform fee.

From above yes it makes sense to use POEMS as our core platform.
However there's no denying that FSM's interface trumps the other two.  bruce.gif

FSM SG feels like a 2016 site.
Dollar Dex feels like a 2013 site.
POEMS? I feel like I'm looking at at 24-hr built mlm site.  tongue.gif  laugh.gif

But who cares.
Use FSM for charting/reading/resource then buy in POEMS.  rclxm9.gif

Too bad there are no good ETFs for Asia/Pacific region compared to UTs.
Else I would have gone 100% ETF.
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That's what I am going to do. Use FSM charts, fund info to determine what to buy from POEMS. biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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post Nov 19 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 10:06 PM)
If everyone do this later FSM tutup kedai.  tongue.gif

Btw mind sharing your holdings for Asia/AsiaPac region?

For me:
- HGIF Asia Ex-Jap Eq Sm Cos SGD AD
- First State Dividend Advantage
- Schroder Asian Growth Fund

in 5.0 : 2.5 : 2.5 allocation.
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I don't have a SG SA account yet. Hence I don't have any UT from SG. However since it's in the plan, I will share my allocation.

- HGIF ASIA EX-JAP EQ SM COS SGD AD 12.5%
- UNITED ASIAN HY BOND DIST SGD 12.5%
- UNITED ASIA PAC RE EST INC FD ACC SGD (REITS) 12.5%
- FIRST STATE REGIONAL INDIA FUND 12.5%

I am making AP and US to be 50% each.

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post Nov 19 2016, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Nov 19 2016, 10:16 PM)
Cool.
50:50 Asia/US for me too.

US: MGK, VDC, IHI, IHF + Fidelity Global Technology A EUR <- keeping it as it is outperforming my next-in-list, VGT.
Asia: Rojak funds.

This thread seems really quiet compared to the bolehland version.
Let's keep it alive.  thumbsup.gif
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My growth fund will be
FIRST STATE REGIONAL INDIA FUND 12.5%
FIDELITY GLOBAL TECHNOLOGY A EUR 12.5%

In the event if I cannot open account, I will use POEMS money market fund. I am not going to invest anymore in FSM malaysia as it charges 2% SC blink.gif sad.gif compare to POEMS at 0.7%

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post Nov 25 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 25 2016, 10:56 PM)
What is poems ?
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https://www.poems.com.sg/unittrust/
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post Nov 25 2016, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 25 2016, 11:12 PM)
Very interesting.. will study this tmrw esp on d etf. Got to see d commission etc. Thanks alot buddy

For bond funds, which one in your mind?
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I think the ETF better go with foreign broker. United Asian HY Bond fund. Use FSM SG to get fund info, buy from POEMS. To make sure you are buying the right one, compare both NAV. That way you won't end up buying the wrong fund.
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Dec 5 2016, 11:41 AM)
I asked them, they say maybank still cannot sad.gif

Looks like need to find other banks that can allow to open SG SA without leaving KL
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But can do normal transfer right and buy like money market fund righ?

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post Dec 5 2016, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 5 2016, 12:52 PM)
I've not tried it but you should be able to just transfer the amount from your bank account into theirs. Please try and feedback on this thread

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=2409
FAQ 15
For Cash investments, you can do wire/Telegraphic Transfer as well. The bank account details for telegraphic transfer can be obtained after you have placed a buy order online.
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Philips Singapore is so troublesome. Documents must be verified by commisioner of oath. They don't accept email application. Either sent by mail or walk in.

Exception is if walk in to their branch and apply.

Well good thing is they accept maybank Singapore AIYH
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post Dec 5 2016, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Dec 5 2016, 01:22 PM)
Philip or FSM accepting maybank?
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Philip. I will go for philip over FSM (FSM have platform fees while Philip don't have)
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post Dec 5 2016, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Dec 5 2016, 02:38 PM)
Submitted my forms for both Philips and DollarDex.

DollarDex seems alot more responsive than Philips.
Honestly I might forgo the extra 0.25% premium and go with DollarDex.
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Does dollardex let you do application online?
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post Dec 5 2016, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Dec 5 2016, 02:53 PM)
Yeah I even opted for them to send me the forms to sign together with the business envelope.
Very convenient.  smile.gif

While POEMS it's all the typical print and DIY style.

And I notice that DD does not charge on same-tier or high-to-low fund switching while POEMS charge flat 0.5%.
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0.25% is a lot especially over the years. FSM would be my choice if not for the platform fees.

Well I hardly do switching. Just buy and hold.

Have you done this ninja trick before?
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Yes, buy from FSM to enjoy low sales charge and transfer to a bank such as UOB OCBC or DBS to avoid platform fees.

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post Dec 5 2016, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 5 2016, 03:16 PM)
thumbsup.gif  biggrin.gif

Bro is an expert !
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Care to share how you do that? Which means you sell everything, then contact the bank say you want to transfer in by buying or you don't need to sell?

Also care to share how do you open account with POEMS?

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post Dec 5 2016, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 5 2016, 03:37 PM)
biggrin.gif  No need to sell, tell Phillip you need to transfer over from FSM,... Phillip will be very happy to give you forms to fill-up,... then they would do the rest.  biggrin.gif

But careful,... some funds can't be transferred over,... need to see the funds too, bro,....
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The thing is I don't have Philips yet. And they are pain to open. Need commisioner of oath just to verify address if we mail them. No online application. sad.gif

So how did you apply? Walk in?

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