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post Oct 13 2015, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Oct 13 2015, 02:27 PM)
All the best to you. 

If you do succeed in future, drop us a post in here.  biggrin.gif

I don't mean to pour cold water on you, but I really have my doubts about alkaline water.
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Thanks smile.gif

That's because of all the hype out there that is unsubstantiated.

Let me attempt to change your mind:

The best water sources around the world are alkaline. Be it in India, America, China, whatever, they are alkaline.

BUT, the idea is not about replicating its alkalinity, nor selling alkaline-ph water just for the sake of.

It's something different that works.

I'm talking vaguely here as I don't want people to catch on the idea. smile.gif
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:31 PM

oh hai! wan naslemak?
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QUOTE(tagz8 @ Oct 13 2015, 02:19 PM)
In the smaller scale man, like, what food types work best for you, ingredients to avoid, amount and choice of exercise, etc. Related to how to make optimal choices for your given DNA/body type.
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That's the thing, why stop at dieting when you can extract the whole information like behavior, affinity or other phenotypes from the DNA. A single individual has the potential to generate thousands of dollars from their DNA data. This and times 1 billion middle class people, you can create a trillion dollar company.

Of course the DNA data can also be used to wipe an entire race of people in an extreme case. Imagine contaminating the water supply that only affect x race of people.
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tl;dr
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Oct 13 2015, 02:31 PM)
That's the thing, why stop at dieting when you can extract the whole information like behavior, affinity or other phenotypes from the DNA. A single individual has the potential to generate thousands of dollars from their DNA data. This and times 1 billion middle class people, you can create  a trillion dollar company.

Of course the DNA data can also be used to wipe an entire race of people in an extreme case. Imagine contaminating the water supply that only affect x race of people.
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I believe its already in progress on a large scale, take for example Google's subidiary's acquisition of a DNA company.
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(tagz8 @ Oct 13 2015, 02:25 PM)
I've edited my reply to you above.

And apologies, don't understand your question, elaborate please?
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my question was why 'step' on someone's idea but in the end intend to use that same idea you step on someone?
do you think end of the day you will not maximize your profit just like A****, C****, D****?
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Oct 13 2015, 02:33 PM)
my question was why 'step' on someone's idea but in the end intend to use that same idea you step on someone?
do you think end of the day you will not maximize your profit just like A****, C****, D****?
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Just identifying a problem in the market. And to do that do I not have to make product comparisons and find flaws?

To maximize profit or not, it's such a prelim stage, will have to see.
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(tagz8 @ Oct 13 2015, 02:38 PM)
Just identifying a problem in the market. And to do that do I not have to make product comparisons and find flaws?

To maximize profit or not, it's such a prelim stage, will have to see.
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how is it a problem to the market?
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Oct 13 2015, 02:40 PM)
how is it a problem to the market?
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(1) Many people do not believe the hype. Just look at scientifically-valid criticisms on alkaline water by qualified scientists. I want my product to be able to withstand such criticisms. This not only allows me to target a wider market, but at the same time sleep better at night knowing that my product is scientifically-sound and based on evidence.

(2) Very expensive. I want to make it more affordable to the wider market as it will be good for health, while still making a profit.

(3) Other factors, too long to type here, especially if you're just commenting for argumentative sake.
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:47 PM

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have you done enough research for customer validation?
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pistacio @ Oct 13 2015, 02:47 PM)
have you done enough research for customer validation?
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Nope.

But there are existing customers for a similar product, which is growing in size. That's a quick reference point smile.gif

Marketing and PR can be strategised later, when we do get a working prototype.

This post has been edited by tagz8: Oct 13 2015, 02:50 PM
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(tagz8 @ Oct 13 2015, 02:49 PM)
Nope.

But there are existing customers for a similar product, which is growing in size. That's a quick reference point smile.gif

Marketing and PR can be strategised later, when we do get a working prototype.
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better do some customer validation first.. unless you already have some huge grants on hand..
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:51 PM

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pure water should be 95% purity, crystallized and blue
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:56 PM

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You know Malaysians are an conservative bunch and very prone to scientific skepticism until their family, relatives and friends overwhelm their logic and rationality. owai
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:59 PM

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I have been drinking home-made distilled water for 2 years and it's the best water to drink. So many people want to capitalize on this simple basic need.
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post Oct 13 2015, 02:59 PM

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Bla bla bla

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post Oct 13 2015, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(ate @ Oct 13 2015, 02:51 PM)
pure water should be 95% purity, crystallized and blue
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What's crystallized about? Blue is just the visual property of water.
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QUOTE(J1g54w @ Oct 13 2015, 02:59 PM)
I have been drinking home-made distilled water for 2 years and it's the best water to drink. So many people want to capitalize on this simple basic need.
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You might want to switch to mineral water for a few months and see the difference. No need to thank me for this.
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post Oct 13 2015, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(J1g54w @ Oct 13 2015, 02:59 PM)
I have been drinking home-made distilled water for 2 years and it's the best water to drink. So many people want to capitalize on this simple basic need.
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Not the best water based on my understanding. But feel free to post some real science here substantiating your belief.
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post Oct 13 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Pistacio @ Oct 13 2015, 02:50 PM)
better do some customer validation first.. unless you already have some huge grants on hand..
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First customer is myself, as it is based on evidence. After getting a working prototype then will think of funding.
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QUOTE(tagz8 @ Oct 13 2015, 02:31 PM)
Thanks smile.gif

That's because of all the hype out there that is unsubstantiated.

Let me attempt to change your mind:

The best water sources around the world are alkaline. Be it in India, America, China, whatever, they are alkaline.

BUT, the idea is not about replicating its alkalinity, nor selling alkaline-ph water just for the sake of.

It's something different that works.

I'm talking vaguely here as I don't want people to catch on the idea.  smile.gif
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The only good thing about these best, alkaline water sources is their taste and purity.

There is nothing special about alkaline.

I would suggest that you ditch this alkaline idea.

Get these scientists you're going to work with to research water taste. Good tasting water can wasily fit the hype of "good water". Maybe the smell (chlorine smells is bad), maybe the colour (very slight bluish tinge may infer a "clean" image.) Shit like that. It doesn't have to be actual changes to water. Maybe some light tricks to the container of the water could manifest such illusion without actually do anything to the water that has a potential of some lawsuits.

For purity, just devise some generic filtration system and youre good to go. Or just make a reverse osmosis machine, then have the machine do something about the taste later.

The rest, do whatever marketing gimmicks you want.

But, if youre looking to make something revolutionary, something that could cure cancer (or ambitious shit like that), out of plain water, youre out of luck.



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