Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
131 Pages « < 116 117 118 119 120 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Fundsupermart.com v12, Najibnomics to lift KLCI?

views
     
nexona88
post Dec 6 2015, 04:40 PM

The Royal Club Member
*********
All Stars
48,433 posts

Joined: Sep 2014
From: REality
QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 6 2015, 01:31 PM)
Oh thank you so much! I got it!!
*
no problem. Glad to help biggrin.gif
nexona88
post Dec 6 2015, 04:46 PM

The Royal Club Member
*********
All Stars
48,433 posts

Joined: Sep 2014
From: REality
-deleted-

This post has been edited by nexona88: Dec 6 2015, 11:05 PM
Kaka23
post Dec 6 2015, 10:26 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,259 posts

Joined: Sep 2009


QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 6 2015, 04:33 PM)
Idea Of The Week: Learn From Buffett - Grow Your “Retirement Tree”!
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-Dec-2015--6585

A gud advice from the living Legend
*
thumbup.gif
jerk
post Dec 7 2015, 12:30 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,039 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


Dear master Xuzen

Are you no longer bullish on european and technology sector? should i consider taking profit?

miss sexy is becoming more and more sexy in recent days... what is your take on it? wait still or play small?

would be taking your advice on ponzi 2 > titanic. thanks.
jerk
post Dec 7 2015, 01:05 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,039 posts

Joined: Nov 2005



should i be keeping kenanga total return now that we are a little bullish on asia ex pac? or i would be better considering switching it into KGF in the near future?

would be considering switching amasia pac into amprecious metals.

was a collector during my purchase frenzy back in april
SUSyklooi
post Dec 7 2015, 01:16 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,188 posts

Joined: Apr 2013


hmm.gif


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
syarehey
post Dec 7 2015, 05:17 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
492 posts

Joined: Oct 2008
From: Damansara



received an email saying EIB asia pacific shariah fund is going to be rationalized and soft closure by 1st february. currently my fund is negative value,should i switch/redeem or wait until it goes positive?not sure if there's any possibilities to go up 🤔
SUSMNet
post Dec 7 2015, 07:06 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
11,954 posts

Joined: May 2007



QUOTE(syarehey @ Dec 7 2015, 05:17 AM)
received an email saying EIB asia pacific shariah fund is going to be rationalized and soft closure by 1st february. currently my fund is negative value,should i switch/redeem or wait until it goes positive?not sure if there's any possibilities to go up 🤔
*
Please switch
T231H
post Dec 7 2015, 08:07 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,143 posts

Joined: Jan 2015
QUOTE(syarehey @ Dec 7 2015, 05:17 AM)
received an email saying EIB asia pacific shariah fund is going to be rationalized and soft closure by 1st february. currently my fund is negative value, should i switch/redeem or wait until it goes positive? not sure if there's any possibilities to go up 🤔
*
should i switch/redeem?
hmm.gif just focusing on intra switching may not be a good idea...sometimes redeem and buy into another fund(s) that compliment your portfolio is better. Some people may even want to "cabut" now and wait for the FED rate decision before coming back in.

or wait until it goes positive?
you only have 2 months to recover to positive from the current negative.
only you know about value of that negative numbers.........do you believes it will in 2 months?
you have until 1st Feb...try to analyse to determine what funds are needed in your portfolio and start to prep your mind into it.

not sure if there's any possibilities to go up ..
yes that is correct,...especially when you only have 2 months time frame.

Kaka23
post Dec 7 2015, 08:45 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,259 posts

Joined: Sep 2009


QUOTE(syarehey @ Dec 7 2015, 05:17 AM)
received an email saying EIB asia pacific shariah fund is going to be rationalized and soft closure by 1st february. currently my fund is negative value,should i switch/redeem or wait until it goes positive?not sure if there's any possibilities to go up 🤔
*
I guess no point to wait till Jan IF there is still possibility to go up. Better switch out...
Vanguard 2015
post Dec 7 2015, 10:23 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,541 posts

Joined: Mar 2015
QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 5 2015, 04:39 PM)
You sounds like a person who knows a little bit about MPT.

Here's an imaginary portfolio:

Three funds:

I) All three funds have Risk to Reward Ratio is > 2

II) All three funds corr-coeff is around 0.50 to 0.60

Good boh?

Xuzen
*
I know just enough of MPT to cari makan. Risk to Reward Ratio > 2?

Sounds good to me.
xuzen
post Dec 7 2015, 10:33 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,436 posts

Joined: Oct 2008


QUOTE(jerk @ Dec 7 2015, 12:30 AM)
Dear master Xuzen

Are you no longer bullish on european and technology sector? should i consider taking profit?

miss sexy is becoming more and more sexy in recent days... what is your take on it? wait still or play small?

would be taking your advice on ponzi 2 > titanic. thanks.
*
Point 1: I have never been bullish about European centric fund. You have mistaken me with itu Labah-labah Merah Jambu.

Point 2: I took profit from Tech Sector about three mths ago and moved into Titanic. Now I am also taking profit from Titanic. These two funds at the moment behave very similarly. They can be said to have very high correlation to each other.

Point 3: India centric fund; I am watching it but as of now I have not put in a single cent into it. Its risk to reward ratio is just not favourable. I still prefer Small-cap as my supplementary fund over India fund.

Xuzen

This post has been edited by xuzen: Dec 7 2015, 10:47 AM
dasecret
post Dec 7 2015, 10:59 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,498 posts

Joined: Nov 2012
QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 5 2015, 04:39 PM)
You sounds like a person who knows a little bit about MPT.

Here's an imaginary portfolio:

Three funds:

I) All three funds have Risk to Reward Ratio is > 2

II) All three funds corr-coeff is around 0.50 to 0.60

Good boh?

Xuzen
*
Boss, how to calculate correlation between funds? notworthy.gif
dasecret
post Dec 7 2015, 11:02 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,498 posts

Joined: Nov 2012
QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 5 2015, 04:54 PM)
ASG. Taruh last year. 5% SC. Then after taruh, it drop from rm1.20 to rm0.90 so you can see how much losses I make. mad.gif vmad.gif cry.gif
*
If ASG is a indication of the actual performance of ASM, ASW etc, you still want to think ASM and the likes are FD on steroids?!!!

rclxub.gif doh.gif

But I'm supposed to stop myself from commenting anymore about this matter
SUSPink Spider
post Dec 7 2015, 11:06 AM

Formerly known as Prince_Hamsap
********
Senior Member
16,872 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 7 2015, 10:33 AM)
Point 1: I have never been bullish about European centric fund. You have mistaken me with itu Labah-labah Merah Jambu.
*
Oi! Dun feed me dead cat mad.gif

I've never been bullish about Europe-focused funds, only been advocating CONSTANT exposure to Developed Markets. dry.gif
Ramjade
post Dec 7 2015, 11:10 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,335 posts

Joined: Feb 2011


QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 7 2015, 11:02 AM)
If ASG is a indication of the actual performance of ASM, ASW etc, you still want to think ASM and the likes are FD on steroids?!!!

rclxub.gif  doh.gif

But I'm supposed to stop myself from commenting anymore about this matter
*
As long as continue buy and sell at rm1/unit, no SC, dividend paid out at 6.X%, instant redemption, who cares the actual indicator.

Besides fixed priced funds are considered "national interest" (official reply from asnb)

If is not good, why do you think it's often sold out?

But anyway is OT.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Dec 7 2015, 11:15 AM
dasecret
post Dec 7 2015, 11:39 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,498 posts

Joined: Nov 2012
QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 7 2015, 11:10 AM)
As long as continue buy and sell at rm1/unit, no SC, dividend paid out at 6.X%, instant redemption, who cares the actual indicator.

Besides fixed priced funds are considered "national interest" (official reply from asnb)

If is not good, why do you think it's often sold out?

But anyway is OT.
*
The point I'm trying to make, which you keep missing, is relevant to this thread

Based on ASG Oct 2015 factsheet, the 1 year return is -5.58%; 3 years annualised return is 2.42%

Contrast this with what you can buy on FSM
Kenanga growth fund
1year - 7.81%
3 years annualised - 19.0%

Eastspring Small-cap
1year - 7.14%
3 years annualised - 33.7%

How does this contrast with the dividends paid out by the fixed price funds?
As1M - 6.4%
ASW - 6.4%

So... tell me again, what is making ASx more attractive than to invest on other equity funds? The only thing I can think of is, the 'perceived no loss' situation... which I don't want to go into yet another time

anyway, cut loss is what I would advise anyone in your situation to do instead of holding on for another 3 years to earn the measly 2.42% and lose out of the 33.7% you could have made

As to your question on why no good still sold out?
Simple - People's aversion to losses and not realise that although on the face it's not losing money, you are losing money is so many ways... Do we have to be those people? whistling.gif

This post has been edited by dasecret: Dec 7 2015, 11:40 AM
Ramjade
post Dec 7 2015, 11:52 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,335 posts

Joined: Feb 2011


QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 7 2015, 11:39 AM)
The point I'm trying to make, which you keep missing, is relevant to this thread

Based on ASG Oct 2015 factsheet, the 1 year return is -5.58%; 3 years annualised return is 2.42%

Contrast this with what you can buy on FSM
Kenanga growth fund
1year - 7.81%
3 years annualised - 19.0%

Eastspring Small-cap
1year - 7.14%
3 years annualised - 33.7%

How does this contrast with the dividends paid out by the fixed price funds?
As1M - 6.4%
ASW - 6.4%

So... tell me again, what is making ASx more attractive than to invest on other equity funds? The only thing I can think of is, the 'perceived no loss' situation... which I don't want to go into yet another time

anyway, cut loss is what I would advise anyone in your situation to do instead of holding on for another 3 years to earn the measly 2.42% and lose out of the 33.7% you could have made

As to your question on why no good still sold out?
Simple - People's aversion to losses and not realise that although on the face it's not losing money, you are losing money is so many ways... Do we have to be those people?  whistling.gif

*
True but where can you find something with consistent returns of ~6.X% p.a regardless of good or bad market conditions with near perfect "capital guaranteed"? The only one I can think off is FD.

dasecret
post Dec 7 2015, 12:05 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,498 posts

Joined: Nov 2012
QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 7 2015, 11:52 AM)
True but where can you find something with consistent returns of ~6.X% p.a regardless of good or bad market conditions with near perfect "capital guaranteed"? The only one I can think off is FD.
*
I'm telling myself this is the last time I'm responding to you... while I imagine boss pinky is grinning reading this

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...formed=topFunds

So... for consistent returns, if you are in it for long term, which is the case for most ppl putting money in ASx, look at 10 year annualised returns. The top 5 funds yield consistently, over the past 10 years, >15% returns....

And you still want to ask where to find?

ASx is not capital guaranteed, never was, never will be (i think)
One just need to close eye when the market is down momentarily.... and enjoy way higher returns than FDs and ASx

Or, like me, even more risk adverse... pair the malaysia equity fund with asia pac and developed market funds and also some bond funds... get IRR of 8% and sleep way better at night than to think about what is the total market value of the ASx funds
SUSPink Spider
post Dec 7 2015, 01:24 PM

Formerly known as Prince_Hamsap
********
Senior Member
16,872 posts

Joined: Jun 2011


QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 7 2015, 12:05 PM)
I'm telling myself this is the last time I'm responding to you... while I imagine boss pinky is grinning reading this

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...formed=topFunds

So... for consistent returns, if you are in it for long term, which is the case for most ppl putting money in ASx, look at 10 year annualised returns. The top 5 funds yield consistently, over the past 10 years, >15% returns....

And you still want to ask where to find?

ASx is not capital guaranteed, never was, never will be (i think)
One just need to close eye when the market is down momentarily.... and enjoy way higher returns than FDs and ASx

Or, like me, even more risk adverse... pair the malaysia equity fund with asia pac and developed market funds and also some bond funds... get IRR of 8% and sleep way better at night than to think about what is the total market value  of the ASx funds
*
I don't want reply him yawn.gif
reply u instead wub.gif

AS itu benda...they "hide" the profits which they did not declare as dividends...as "reserves"...
Good times, they underdeclare and keep for future...
Bad times, they take the previously reserved earnings and use to pay out as divvies...
In Chinese we call it, lam pa pa lan...
I.e. sama je whistling.gif

U invest in above-average equity funds (so many of them...e.g. Affin Hwang Select Opportunity, Eastspring Equity Income, Kenanga Growth, and so many more), 100% of the gains and losses are reflected in the NAV pricing...no delay, no "holding back" of earnings...
If u want 100% of the earnings, it's only fair that 100% of the losses, u are to bear...
But if come rain or shine u stay put...in the long run, history have ALREADY proven that they can deliver returns that beat all those AS funds... rolleyes.gif

Again, this is FSM thread, those people that loves those AS funds, they are welcome to stick to those... cool2.gif

Saya cakap ada make sense? wub.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Dec 7 2015, 01:27 PM

131 Pages « < 116 117 118 119 120 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0337sec    0.41    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 3rd December 2025 - 11:25 PM