Since the ringgit is marginally stronger these 2 days, is it a good time to buy foreign equity funds like ponzi2.0 and GTF? Or maybe even asian total return?
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Oct 7 2015, 11:19 AM
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Since the ringgit is marginally stronger these 2 days, is it a good time to buy foreign equity funds like ponzi2.0 and GTF? Or maybe even asian total return?
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Oct 7 2015, 11:40 AM
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Oct 7 2015, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 11:55 AM) In volatile markets like this, if you do lumpsum investments, it's better to catch the market when it's lower than when there is a sales charge discount right? usually when market is down, it's more than 1% |
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Oct 7 2015, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 7 2015, 12:58 PM) RHB Asian Income, RHB Asian Total Return (fixed income) they were below my radar previously. For better or worse, my prejudice with bond is that she is boring and as beautiful as my 90year old Granny. But after re looking at them, they do present some interesting numbers. I will, in my free time, throw these numbers into algozen and see whether they can be part of a good portfolio or not... watch this space. Xuzen Can I suggest to look into EI Asia pac shariah fund too? It's looking quite attractive even when I ignore the one off return sometime between 3-6 months |
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Oct 8 2015, 11:01 AM
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The update current price button doesn't seem to work today. Anyone else experiencing that? It says cannot connect to FSM website |
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Oct 27 2015, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Oct 26 2015, 11:50 PM) both, also stick with fsm SG almost 3 years already. I noticed investment return plus currency appreciation is much greater that what solely in MYR based. That's my personal experience only. Hi... I started with FSM SG early this year, mostly put in Asian ex japan funds and it's not exactly doing greatAny recommendations for the funds you like? They have really a lot of funds and make me so pening |
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Oct 28 2015, 01:24 AM
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Oct 28 2015, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 09:55 AM) Before: Are you sure you wont repeat this... I've read this so many times liao the mooncake is cut into 4 slices U get 2 alices After: the mooncake is cut into 8 slices U get 4 slices I won't repeat this anymore, go read Post #1 AGAIN AGAIN AND AGAIN Yes.... it's tiring to repeat... but that's why people love you ma, sifu |
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Oct 28 2015, 10:09 AM
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Note to self: When want to add a new PRS fund, never try to buy it at its lowest, because they can only process the buy after they receive the hardcopy form... I ended up buying it at its highest because the form took longer to reach
I started another portfolio for mum and decided to add RHB Asian Income Fund into the portfolio since the money was from ASX and therefore she'd like it to be more stable. Funny enough during the first tranche of RSP the return is actually highest from this fund. Sometimes I find FSM MY fund choice of the month is more spot on than their recommended funds for the year |
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Oct 28 2015, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Oct 28 2015, 10:47 AM) Ahem... the person who is challenging the basic principle of unit trust investment is also someone whom I remember saying "ASX is equivalent but more superior than fixed deposits" So honestly, I'm not surprised and I would just ignore. I've given up highlighting to people that it's clearly stated in ASX master prospectus that neither the capital nor the dividends of the funds are guaranteed... so seriously, which part of it looks like FD other than you can redeem immediately |
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Oct 28 2015, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 10:58 AM) And do u remember I crash the ASX party explaining the profit-smoothing technique employed by those fixed-price funds? Yaya... and they pretty much ignored it altogether... Actually it could be a loss-smoothing too you know Boss, you are accountant by profession right? Go and read their financial statements, it's eye opening |
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Oct 28 2015, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 28 2015, 11:12 AM) Sorry bro, Pinky Spider My mistake. I think I start to understand about what's posted on front page. This is FSM thread, so I'm not going to go into details of what 'look and smell' like FD is actually very different from FD if you care to read up on the detailsIt might not be highlighted in the MP about capital and dividends guaranteed. Well I list it out how it's equivalent and superior to FD. 1) You buy and sell at RM1/unit. You tell me how can your capital is not guaranteed unless pnb goes kaput? 2) FD interest most is 4.X%. ASX FP have been giving out consistent 6.x% per year. Yes is not guaranteed the dividends but think, if they give less than that, how many people will pull out? Now, we can't have that can we. Besides they have reserves to give consistent returns to during bad times. 3) National interest bro. We can't let something happen to national interest can we? So now you have it, capital is "protected". "Consistent" of >=6.X% returns per year for >10 Years. What more you want? May not be FD, but it looks like FD. But I do agree with you on national interest whole-heartedly. After talking to the folks in the ASX thread I realise why MY has this and how does it contribute to our share market or even economy as a whole But personally I don't like what I read in the financial statements, so you guys can go ahead, I don't like to be kept in the dark, I'd like to know how much I made or lost, however ugly it may be. And after 2 years of putting money in unit trust, I think I can handle the occasional ups and downs |
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Oct 28 2015, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 11:17 AM) I never said FD>ASX You know, with this speech the unit trust agents can go sell VP funds from the better performing fund house jor.... to the people who are heavily invested in ASXBut I said MANY Variable Price funds like UTs could > Fixed Price funds like ASX ASX gave u 6% p.a. for many years now, yes But go see historical performance of superstars like Kenanga Growth Fund, AMB Dividen Trust, Eastspring Equity Income and Affin Hwang Select Opportunity, and yeah those are 100% equity funds U may even compare against less volatile Balanced Funds like RHB KidSave Trust, Affin Hwang Select Balanced/Select Income. Yes, there are ups and downs. But in the long term? Bagai Man City vs Sunderland U pay for your (false sense of) stability with lesser returns Sorry Sunderland fans Some days I do feel like I want start providing unit trust portfolio set up and monitoring service to people, ever since I started doing it for my mum, cos it's not difficult really; and as long as I can beat ASx and public mutual net of fees, people would love me But I say only... very scared to lose other people's money |
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Oct 28 2015, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 11:58 AM) I'd say, u got nothing to gain Totally... that's why I didn't do it although a friend say why not and was willing to pay a fee for itIf they profit, at most they treat u one bowl kari mee If they loss, they curse your momma scold your father Not worth the trouble But for my mum and sibling, different story la. Even mother in law I'm reluctant This is how I do it, for those who might want to go into it. I open a FSM account under their name, let them determine the password, all personal details is linked to theirs so that if touchwood anything happen (like we are no longer in speaking terms, touchwood no longer around), then they can just change the password that I know and continue to run with it. Bank account details also theirs, so if I want to take the money for personal gain also cannot Then they bank in the money and I put through all the instructions like normal lor. If I charge a fee, I will put through sell order then they will pay me after they receive the money. And for the fixed return annually mutually agreed, I'll put in sell order and they get their annual ASx like 'dividends' But if you turn pro, Xuzen's wrapped account may be more advantageous from transaction fee perspective. |
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Oct 28 2015, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 11:39 AM) Lose money is easy Ya, I've been telling my friends and colleagues. Colleagues completely hopeless and didn't do anythingLet people chase 9 streets asking why u lost their money is another I also tried selling FSM to my friends 1 of them, savings account also kena research for months, spent toll and petrol just to find the bank that can give extra 0.x% returns, e-FD pun tak berani put Another...rather go to an agent...cos ada lenglui agent belanja yamcha at fancy café...maybe got nice longkang to peek So I gave up on my friends, their money their problem Friends wise, a few of those financial savvy ones loved it as an alternative of buying through banks and agents. When she wanted to cash out entirely from her PB EPF acc1, the agent stopped her saying it's solid bla bla. Few months later KLSE lau sai and she regretted big time. FSM took away the emotion factor and she can make rational decisions |
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Oct 28 2015, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2015, 01:09 PM) Well, FSM will only remit to a bank account under the accountholder's name, so there's no risk. Worst that can happen is u sell all their profitable funds and keep their rubbish funds. Kasi sabo They are supposed to have the passwords and the email notification on sale and purchase orders go to them. So as soon as things turn sour quick quick change password lor.... but seriously I wont trust someone else with my money and I'm surprised a spouse's friend would trust me with hisOr u show hand their funds on AmPrecious Metals |
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Oct 28 2015, 01:14 PM
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Oct 28 2015, 01:15 PM
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Oct 28 2015, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 28 2015, 12:47 PM) Small portion in eFD on monthly rolling, the rest in CMF. Experienced in the past when I need the money immediately and can't wait for T+2Alternatively flexi homeloan is a superior choice too; but it's not one that suits me And beware of commitment fee charged by CIMB full flexi This post has been edited by dasecret: Oct 28 2015, 01:41 PM |
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Oct 28 2015, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 28 2015, 02:04 PM) Isn't Pinky's idea the same as mine? I probably learned this trick from him over the years also....Ideally CMF should not have a lot of funds, because one should stay fully invested other than for emergency funds; but I'm too haphazard and sometimes just keep it in CMF when I don't feel like I should buy anything (because it was too high, or it's falling |
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