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> All hell will break loose if vernacular schools sh, lets hear smart malays opinion here.

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post Sep 28 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Sep 28 2015, 02:24 PM)
This.

But u see all the Cainis in this forum is getting derailed.

Close SJKC = mempersuasui kan maruah cainis.

Want abolish tongkat, but dun wan abolish SJK. Deswai i see DAP as just as an opportunist.

Just change SJK to SKK (sekolah khas kebangsaan), also cant do it because why? because pride. Wat tok kok nonsense, u all are malaysian, be prideful lar of being malaysian.

Take this opportunity, push the one nation one race to the max.
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Bro, you need to look at the other side of the coin oso la. Want to close vernacular schools but never give better alternatives, how la?

Restore the education standards to our national schools, heck make it even better than vernacular schools. That time you no need to close them, they will close themselves from lack of enrollment

Susah sangat ke nak paham titik ni?
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Sep 28 2015, 02:32 PM)
Ko nak dap perintah ker?

Ko nak jadi macam singapore ker?
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Sep 28 2015, 02:24 PM)
This.

But u see all the Cainis in this forum is getting derailed.

Close SJKC = mempersuasui kan maruah cainis.

Want abolish tongkat, but dun wan abolish SJK. Deswai i see DAP as just as an opportunist.

Just change SJK to SKK (sekolah khas kebangsaan), also cant do it because why? because pride. Wat tok kok nonsense, u all are malaysian, be prideful lar of being malaysian.

Take this opportunity, push the one nation one race to the max.
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Apa salahan dap?


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post Sep 28 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 28 2015, 02:32 PM)
Who said BN ignore Vernacular schools?
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Who said they ignore?
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:34 PM

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yang cina tak nak hilang sedikit pun cinanya
yang melayu tak nak hilang sedikit pun melayunya
yang nak jadi bangsa malaysia...mangsa racism dua-dua diatas yang tak nak mengaku racist..

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post Sep 28 2015, 02:34 PM

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If sekolah jenis kebangsaan so good why they kena tapao when spm result comes out? Mostly MRSM and boarding school rule the ranking
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 28 2015, 02:32 PM)
Who said BN ignore Vernacular schools?
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Obviously songlap case lah.... whistling.gif
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Sep 28 2015, 02:14 PM)
What's stopping the govt from doing that now? Do you need to close vernacular schools to build that? Tak paham ka atau sengaja take mau paham?

MAKE THE SINGLE UNIFIED STREAM SCHOOL NOW WITH BETTER STANDARD THAN VERNACULAR SCHOOL.

If its better than vernacular schools, ppl will naturally enroll their children there. Susah sangat ke nak paham?
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Dunno but thats my ideal view for the new system.

QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 28 2015, 02:18 PM)
Dude, not sure you're trolling, dreaming or what...enuff lah.

1) There is no race specific enrollment criteria. Anyone can study at SRJK. How many times need to tell you???
2) We don't have the quality teachers with integrity to do all the things you mentioned, thanks to our gov.
2) The rest no need to say because not gonna happen.

btw, pls STFU lah...many came from SK here, like myself. Unity??? LOL. Phailed objective. How can one claim unity when one is opppressed and insulted on a daily basis by the Gov, Utusan and Mazlan 3.85??
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Lol, i was referring to the enrollment system as a whole, that includes the sk and skjc skji whatever.

And im not saying current sk succeeded in promoting unity, im talking about a new unified national school with new education system and better learning experience.

And u people seems to have this idea that the govt will insist on leaving current schools to remain inefficient. For whatever unknown reason.

We still have the opportunity to design a better system, that is why I support for one unified schools, as long as they revamp the whole syllabus to create a better learning experience for the whole students.

This includes retraining the teachers, redesign school subject, giving additional options for chineese language or indian language etc.

Unlike most of k/ i am giving out solutions here rather than mindless bashing.

Haihhh...again, using one sentence to conclude the whole statement.
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Pow! @ Sep 28 2015, 02:33 PM)
U tell LHDN don't tax me and don't cut PCB every month from me la, I will change my thinking.
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You think you are the only one who got PCB'ed every month ka? Even govt servants also got taxed weh
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:37 PM

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I started to like you already.

But who can we entrust to reform the education?





QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Sep 28 2015, 02:35 PM)
Dunno but thats my ideal view for the new system.
Lol, i was referring to the enrollment system as a whole, that includes the sk and skjc skji whatever.

And im not saying current sk succeeded in promoting unity, im talking about a new unified national school with new education system and better learning experience.

And u people seems to have this idea that the govt will insist on leaving current schools to remain inefficient. For whatever unknown reason.

We still have the opportunity to design a better system, that is why I support for one unified schools, as long as they revamp the whole syllabus to create a better learning experience for the whole students.

This includes retraining the teachers, redesign school subject, giving additional options for chineese language or indian language etc.

Unlike most of k/ i am giving out solutions here rather than mindless bashing.

Haihhh...again, using one sentence to conclude the whole statement.
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Sep 28 2015, 02:35 PM)
Dunno but thats my ideal view for the new system.
Lol, i was referring to the enrollment system as a whole, that includes the sk and skjc skji whatever.

And im not saying current sk succeeded in promoting unity, im talking about a new unified national school with new education system and better learning experience.

And u people seems to have this idea that the govt will insist on leaving current schools to remain inefficient. For whatever unknown reason.

We still have the opportunity to design a better system, that is why I support for one unified schools, as long as they revamp the whole syllabus to create a better learning experience for the whole students.

This includes retraining the teachers, redesign school subject, giving additional options for chineese language or indian language etc.

Unlike most of k/ i am giving out solutions here rather than mindless bashing.

Haihhh...again, using one sentence to conclude the whole statement.
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Same answer. You are dreaming. NEXT!
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:38 PM

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They must close sekolah agama also.
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Sep 28 2015, 01:33 PM)
Religion schools are based upon subject related syllabus which is an aditional syllabus for specific religious study. Its another syllabus altogether, sekolah agama normally teach normal syllabus like national schools in the morning and islamic syllabus in the evening.

It does not impede unity as it does not teach race specific studies. Even the non muslim can enter if they want to learn islamic studies.

But of course the sekolah agama also need to follow the new unified system where it promotes unified syllabus.

So far i rarely see "sekolah jenis kebangsaan melayu", so if you ask if there any schools specific for malays only, then i fail to see its existence out there.

And for MARA boarding schools, i agree they should create a new school that caters for all race that needs an additional support, mostly the unfortunate families.
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Really? And how many non-Muslims will want to learn Islamic studies?

The logic is the same. If you can accuse vernacular schools of impeding unity due to a mono-cultural environment, the same also directly applies to religious schools.

Its mostly Chinese hanging out with Chinese in Chinese schools, and Muslims hanging out with Muslims in religious schools. There's no getting around it. If the former is a problem, than so it the latter. You're just making excuses for the latter.
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:39 PM

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Anyone good statistic to back up saying that SJKC is a much better school in term of UPSR, SPM result? I really doubt it
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Sep 28 2015, 02:37 PM)
You think you are the only one who got PCB'ed every month ka? Even govt servants also got taxed weh
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Yah...but overall, you know which race contributed the most to income tax, hmm?? Or just don't want to admit?

GST is made specifically to tax the Melei. Chinese no give fcuk, already get used to disadvantage. Cukur ada GST!!!
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QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 28 2015, 02:38 PM)
Really? And how many non-Muslims will want to learn Islamic studies?

The logic is the same. If you can accuse vernacular schools of impeding unity due to a mono-cultural environment, the same also directly applies to religious schools.

Its mostly Chinese hanging out with Chinese in Chinese schools, and Muslims hanging out with Muslims in religious schools. There's no getting around it. If the former is a problem, than so it the latter. You're just making excuses for the latter.
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Last time even in SK....it's the same Chinese mostly hangs out with Chinese and Melei with Melei. No difference really.
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 28 2015, 02:41 PM)
Last time even in SK....it's the same Chinese mostly hangs out with Chinese and Melei with Melei. No difference really.
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Yalor. And if want to talk about Form 6, got no Malay for non bumi to hang out with even. laugh.gif
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post Sep 28 2015, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pow! @ Sep 28 2015, 02:42 PM)
Yalor. And if want to talk about Form 6, got no Malay for non bumi to hang out with even. laugh.gif
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Now you remind me...i remember there was erm...arhhh...ermmm...fark you're right. There wasn't any!!! shocking.gif

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post Sep 28 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 28 2015, 02:38 PM)
They must close sekolah agama also.
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Brah, you don't need to get as low as those ppl, own self handicap want to cripple others legs.

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post Sep 28 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Sep 28 2015, 02:37 PM)
I started to like you already.

But who can we entrust to reform the education?
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Like it or not, if they decided to revamp the whole system, we need to make sure they make it right.

Yes it is far fetched, but no, if unity is our goal then the one unified school need to be implemented.


QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 28 2015, 02:37 PM)
Same answer. You are dreaming. NEXT!
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LoL,

U are talking like umngook fellas, telling the chineese to keep on dreaming.

Where does that lead us to?

Complacent much?

QUOTE(arubin @ Sep 28 2015, 02:38 PM)
Really? And how many non-Muslims will want to learn Islamic studies?

The logic is the same. If you can accuse vernacular schools of impeding unity due to a mono-cultural environment, the same also directly applies to religious schools.

Its mostly Chinese hanging out with Chinese in Chinese schools, and Muslims hanging out with Muslims in religious schools. There's no getting around it. If the former is a problem, than so it the latter. You're just making excuses for the latter.
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LoL unlike chineese schools or indian schools their syllabus are not bound by race specific subjects.

Of u want to tackle racism why targeting religion?

We are talking about racism u know.



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