QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 26 2015, 11:30 PM)
Does BSS House price will keep going up where there is no stop?Bandar Sri Sendayan, Seremban, 5,233 acres First Class Township
Bandar Sri Sendayan, Seremban, 5,233 acres First Class Township
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Sep 27 2015, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 08:49 PM) Gambling - Wikipedia Risk..... not equal to gambling lah.....Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize. Buying an uncompleted unit with so much at risk. I would term it gambling. "For the small purchaser... sometimes can't do too much on it... " - even more reason for the small purchaser not to gamble their savings. "If have choice, select reputable listed companies... at least more transparent on the financial report and investor relations info." - and yet, the S&P is still signed with a RM2 company. Lots of sub-sale units available in and around Seremban at 150-300k. Adding another 100-200k for renovation/furnishing/fittings and you can have a piece of mind with a fully furnished+renovated home (+ with extra $$ in pocket) Everything also got risk..... depend on manageable risk or non manageable risk. If house loan monthly payment just below 20% of your salary..., the risk is low. For someone who bought the same house with loan payment more than 50% of the salary.... the risk is higher..So u can see risk level actualy depend many criteria... if you want to judge the housing development risk.... u need to consider more factors.... internal factors (developer cash flow, debt ratio, unbill sale, land bank, management capabilities....)...external factors (market risk, politics risk, currency risk, materials cost risk, monetary policy risk.....) But friendly speaking..... my personal opinion.... the risk of property especially landed property in city is much lower than the share investment and bought the depreciation assets example car... |
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Sep 27 2015, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(waiwai79 @ Sep 27 2015, 12:17 AM) Risk..... not equal to gambling lah..... Good point! Risk is not gambling, especially when it is a calculated risk. Everything also got risk..... depend on manageable risk or non manageable risk. If house loan monthly payment just below 20% of your salary..., the risk is low. For someone who bought the same house with loan payment more than 50% of the salary.... the risk is higher..So u can see risk level actualy depend many criteria... if you want to judge the housing development risk.... u need to consider more factors.... internal factors (developer cash flow, debt ratio, unbill sale, land bank, management capabilities....)...external factors (market risk, politics risk, currency risk, materials cost risk, monetary policy risk.....) But friendly speaking..... my personal opinion.... the risk of property especially landed property in city is much lower than the share investment and bought the depreciation assets example car... |
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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 12:53 PM) I'm not an expert , that is why i'm asking the question Seems like no need to worry about weak MYR for Matrix. Most, if not all international trades are quoted in USD. Any expert in forum can answer this? 1) How much % of construction cost is tied to USD? or - How much % of construction cost required imported materials Goverment statistics is provided, but do need an expert to convert it to actual value. http://www.cidb.gov.my/cidbv4/index.php?op...mid=331&lang=en My experience of simple renovations works in 2014 and 2015, i've noticed prices of lotsa stuffs increased. An increase of RM3 for a pipe faucet is not a lot for an individual house owner. But when you doing few hundred houses multiple by x No. What would the decision be? use cheaper parts or absorbed the cost? Refer to Matrix concept 2014 annual report: 42. FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS (cont’d) 42.1 FINANCIAL RISK MANAGEMENT POLICIES The Group’s policies in respect of the major areas of treasury activity are as follows:- (a) Market Risk (i) Foreign Currency Risk The Group does not have any transactions or balances denominated in foreign currency and hence is not exposed to foreign currency risks. This post has been edited by neonikson1: Sep 27 2015, 02:14 AM |
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Sep 27 2015, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 27 2015, 11:42 AM) The pricing of between BSS and secondary market the like senawang, loong chen, rasah jaya like earth and heaven. Seremban bro, are you comparing apple to apple? Just like penny stocks they are cheap but doesn't mean it is good.Where you going to buy bro? This post has been edited by neonikson1: Sep 27 2015, 03:11 PM |
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QUOTE(waiwai79 @ Sep 27 2015, 12:17 AM) Risk..... not equal to gambling lah..... I'm not an expert on the property sector. As such i cannot properly judge the risk involved (i do wonder sometimes, if the "expert" are really the expert Everything also got risk..... depend on manageable risk or non manageable risk. If house loan monthly payment just below 20% of your salary..., the risk is low. For someone who bought the same house with loan payment more than 50% of the salary.... the risk is higher..So u can see risk level actualy depend many criteria... if you want to judge the housing development risk.... u need to consider more factors.... internal factors (developer cash flow, debt ratio, unbill sale, land bank, management capabilities....)...external factors (market risk, politics risk, currency risk, materials cost risk, monetary policy risk.....) But friendly speaking..... my personal opinion.... the risk of property especially landed property in city is much lower than the share investment and bought the depreciation assets example car... I only got question and no much concrete answer. To commit any amount of my salary(20% or 50%) for 20+ years on a promise by a salesperson. The solution for me is simple. Don't take the risk(i.e. don't gamble) |
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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 27 2015, 10:42 PM) I'm not an expert on the property sector. As such i cannot properly judge the risk involved (i do wonder sometimes, if the "expert" are really the expert Depends on whether you are a home buyer or a property investor. If you are a home buyer there are less risk, after all you get to use what you purchased.I only got question and no much concrete answer. To commit any amount of my salary(20% or 50%) for 20+ years on a promise by a salesperson. The solution for me is simple. Don't take the risk(i.e. don't gamble) There is one expert which is accessible by anyone, his name is Google. You can ask him and he will teach you anything you want to know. If anyone were to commit to a sales and purchase agreement just by the word of the salesperson, i call that stupid. Of course we have to do our homework, alot of homework before we commit. Do thorough research and findings, check developer's background and track record, know the who's who's behind. After we have done enough findings, weighted out the pros and cons, then the decision is said to have taken calculated risk into consideration. Subsale also have risk, the neighbours, the management, the community, the switch in township development, natural disaster (earth quake is coming), etc. We can't live our life without exposing to risk. That's why we need to learn how to take risk and manage our risk. Another important thing to learn is to make good judgement to reduce mistakes in life. This post has been edited by neonikson1: Sep 28 2015, 01:05 AM |
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Sep 28 2015, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 27 2015, 11:42 AM) The pricing of between BSS and secondary market the like senawang, loong chen, rasah jaya like earth and heaven. Seremban older areas are damn cheap no doubt.. But i think you should compare BSS with S2 as it is nearest to it. S2 occupancy rate quite high nia. Subsale selling below 500k. Where you going to buy bro? What says you? |
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QUOTE(raw7118 @ Sep 28 2015, 12:43 AM) Seremban older areas are damn cheap no doubt.. But i think you should compare BSS with S2 as it is nearest to it. S2 occupancy rate quite high nia. Subsale selling below 500k. Whether we are consumer or investor, the PRICE is what we pay, the VALUE is what we get. They don't always equal. What says you? |
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QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 27 2015, 09:03 PM) One thing for sure is no need worry bank valuation the like 2nd hand property and forking out extra $$$ to buy the property. On Top of that, buyer will have a peace in mind and heart that everybody bought the same price. Where as 2nd hand property buyer sign SPA then realise owner/seller bought lower price from developer and happy with huge gain appreciation. S2 vs BSS S2 no club house the like BSS next to Matrix Internation School. |
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 28 2015, 05:22 PM) One thing for sure is no need worry bank valuation the like 2nd hand property and forking out extra $$$ to buy the property. Very true Seremban bro, buying a rm500k subsale unit requires around rm80k upfront payment. Whereas new unit from developer only need around rm10-20k upfront.On Top of that, buyer will have a peace in mind and heart that everybody bought the same price. Where as 2nd hand property buyer sign SPA then realise owner/seller bought lower price from developer and happy with huge gain appreciation. S2 vs BSS S2 no club house the like BSS next to Matrix Internation School. |
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