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Bandar Sri Sendayan, Seremban, 5,233 acres First Class Township
Bandar Sri Sendayan, Seremban, 5,233 acres First Class Township
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Sep 20 2015, 09:34 PM
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Sep 26 2015, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 25 2015, 07:08 PM) I am a home owner and shareholder of this company. If this thing happens to Elvina units and it is not rectified in time, i will make sure to organise a parade at their AGM every year. I would guess you did not buy Elvina from Matrix Concepts Holding Berhad (MCHB), most probably your S&P signed with a RM2 company(a wholly owned subsidiary of MCHB). Sadly, but there's nothing you can do but sue the RM2 company and get maximum compensation ........ RM2 Welcome to Malaysia. Malaysia Boleh. |
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Sep 26 2015, 09:53 AM
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Elvina launched Jun 2015.
USD to MYR @ Jun 2015 = 3.65 to 3.78 Current USD to MYR around 4.40+ - would it recover? - would it drop somemore? 1) How much % of construction cost is tied to USD? 2) How much variation of construction cost did the developer catered for? 3) if MYR drop somemore, would Elvina be completed? and if completed (what about quality)? And for units launched in 2011-2014 when USD to MYR was at 3.00 to 3.30, what happen to them? Some are just completed, and some completing soon. History always repeat it self. |
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Sep 26 2015, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(raw7118 @ Sep 26 2015, 12:08 PM) Enlighten me.. USD to MYR rate .. What does this have to do with construction industry in Malaysia? Are we importing construction materials from US? I'm not an expert , that is why i'm asking the question Most, if not all international trades are quoted in USD. Any expert in forum can answer this? 1) How much % of construction cost is tied to USD? or - How much % of construction cost required imported materials Goverment statistics is provided, but do need an expert to convert it to actual value. http://www.cidb.gov.my/cidbv4/index.php?op...mid=331&lang=en My experience of simple renovations works in 2014 and 2015, i've noticed prices of lotsa stuffs increased. An increase of RM3 for a pipe faucet is not a lot for an individual house owner. But when you doing few hundred houses multiple by x No. What would the decision be? use cheaper parts or absorbed the cost? |
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Sep 26 2015, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(waiwai79 @ Sep 26 2015, 03:15 PM) If you need to worry about the currency on the impact of developer... They are much more criteria should consider...... Gambling - Wikipedia- Financial status (Net cash or Net debt company, if net debt, debt in USD or RM) - Land bank (existing land bank purchased year, if purchased year before 2010 with cheap land cost, the risk much lower) - Unbilled sales (if high, at least no issue of short term cash flow) - Project categories (Landed or High rise? If high rise, risk level higher) - etc......... For the small purchaser... sometimes can't do too much on it... If have choice, select reputable listed companies... at least more transparent on the financial report and investor relations info. Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize. Buying an uncompleted unit with so much at risk. I would term it gambling. "For the small purchaser... sometimes can't do too much on it... " - even more reason for the small purchaser not to gamble their savings. "If have choice, select reputable listed companies... at least more transparent on the financial report and investor relations info." - and yet, the S&P is still signed with a RM2 company. Lots of sub-sale units available in and around Seremban at 150-300k. Adding another 100-200k for renovation/furnishing/fittings and you can have a piece of mind with a fully furnished+renovated home (+ with extra $$ in pocket) This post has been edited by ikanair: Sep 26 2015, 09:03 PM |
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Sep 27 2015, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(waiwai79 @ Sep 27 2015, 12:17 AM) Risk..... not equal to gambling lah..... I'm not an expert on the property sector. As such i cannot properly judge the risk involved (i do wonder sometimes, if the "expert" are really the expert Everything also got risk..... depend on manageable risk or non manageable risk. If house loan monthly payment just below 20% of your salary..., the risk is low. For someone who bought the same house with loan payment more than 50% of the salary.... the risk is higher..So u can see risk level actualy depend many criteria... if you want to judge the housing development risk.... u need to consider more factors.... internal factors (developer cash flow, debt ratio, unbill sale, land bank, management capabilities....)...external factors (market risk, politics risk, currency risk, materials cost risk, monetary policy risk.....) But friendly speaking..... my personal opinion.... the risk of property especially landed property in city is much lower than the share investment and bought the depreciation assets example car... I only got question and no much concrete answer. To commit any amount of my salary(20% or 50%) for 20+ years on a promise by a salesperson. The solution for me is simple. Don't take the risk(i.e. don't gamble) |
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Sep 29 2015, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 27 2015, 01:42 AM) Seems like no need to worry about weak MYR for Matrix. The complain by kampung folks when price increases "What USD go to with us, we only used MYR only mah" Refer to Matrix concept 2014 annual report: 42. FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS (cont’d) 42.1 FINANCIAL RISK MANAGEMENT POLICIES The Group’s policies in respect of the major areas of treasury activity are as follows:- (a) Market Risk (i) Foreign Currency Risk The Group does not have any transactions or balances denominated in foreign currency and hence is not exposed to foreign currency risks. |
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Sep 29 2015, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 29 2015, 12:45 PM) Business is business, they can have a million reason to hike the price, and most of time it doesn't even need to make sense. Oil price up , inflation, oil price down, ringgit depreciation. So either way price is up. But back your concern on the USD impact on either the cost of materials or the quality of BSS houses is irrelevant. QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 12:53 PM) My experience of simple renovations works in 2014 and 2015, i've noticed prices of lotsa stuffs increased. Irrelevant? An increase of RM3 for a pipe faucet is not a lot for an individual house owner. But when you doing few hundred houses multiple by x No. What would the decision be? use cheaper parts or absorbed the cost? If the the developer absorbed the extra cost, then all fine and good but if they chooses the other road |
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Sep 29 2015, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 29 2015, 06:29 PM) Irrelevant as in they do not have direct transactions in USD, that alone is giving the company a much lower risk compare to developers whom are importing materials from overseas. QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 29 2015, 10:30 AM) The complain by kampung folks when price increases "What USD go to with us, we only used MYR only mah" I also stay in kampung, but a different kind. I guess we all do, in a way, in global village.QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 29 2015, 06:29 PM) Property prices keep increasing, hell yea! if not, how do you think people make money from property? http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/housing-indexWould this index turn negative? Happen in 1998/99. History always repeat itself. It feels worse in 1985-86, but for the above link, the data doesn't go back that far. QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 29 2015, 06:29 PM) There are MACRO factors that we can't control! That is a big risk to take, when you have no control, especially when there are other choices abound.QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 29 2015, 06:29 PM) I don't see a point to argue over the depreciation of MYR here as this is a general problem that not only Matrix will be affected, not even just property development industry, but it is affecting the whole Malaysia. QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 27 2015, 10:42 PM) |
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Sep 29 2015, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 29 2015, 06:36 PM) IKA bro, by the way, have you verified that BSS Development Sdn Bhd is a RM2 company like what you said? My apologies. I shoot my own foot. Mouth too big. Please help us to confirm ya! Now i will go hide my head in the sand for this shameful behavior and will never come to this forum again. neonikson1 bro, please go to ROC/SSM and request a copy of the company statement and post it here, so we all may learn more. |
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Sep 29 2015, 08:22 PM
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Dec 21 2015, 08:41 AM
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Lastest subsale prices. crazy prices for crazy days
http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/trends-a...sri%20sendayan# |
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Feb 4 2016, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 4 2016, 03:52 PM) well they also needed the money. nowadays all very expensive. outsider membership fee do help a bit The only way you can get exclusivity, is by making the cost too prohibitive to the public, current cost of BSS is not there yet (what if a uncouth lowbie rent a unit in BSS and ask for access to the club thru the owner?) Unless membership in the club is by invitation only, there's nothing exclusive about it In the other hand, what's so bad about the public that you need exclusivity? Good manners and civic mindedness does not comes with the ability to purchase a club membership(or house) Exclusivity - Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it |
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Jul 31 2016, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(newbie00123 @ Jul 27 2016, 04:58 PM) Matrix one of the biggest beneficiaries of seremban hsr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur%...High_Speed_Railhttp://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/tags/high-speed-rail 60% of buyer are from KV (sales person tell them the HSR Wonder what will happen during the 6-7 year of waiting for HSR completion wait until mosquito sleep *2026 if according to plan. Track record of project in Malaysia Boleh? |
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Jul 31 2016, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(kengyan @ Jul 31 2016, 02:21 PM) Unofficial pricing that leaked from the crony's right hand machai saying that the price of the HSR ticket will be cheaper than MAB's business class ticket. MAB's business class ticket promotion price is RM215 one way, no promotion is RM750+HSR pricing cheaper than full business price? or cheaper than promotion price? Would be super expensive for me to pay RM749 one way to go singapore What would the price for shuttle service from seremban to kl? to borrow IJM advertisement ‘Work in KL, live in Seremban’, but how much is transport cost? *maybe enough to top-up monthly installment to buy house in KL |
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Dec 18 2016, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(LaBoost008 @ Dec 15 2016, 06:37 PM) What do you expect rental for landed property? Its normal to have low rental for landed but compensated with higher capital appreciation compare with highrise. But not sure if investment in BSS can give capital appreciation on par with property in kv. If you buy your property now at 1 Million Ringgit (just a number for easy calculation)after 10 years , how much capital gain would you expect? Simple way of looking at it, few things or more need to happen A) Salary/income increases , or B) interest rate reduced , or C) super boom time, where lemmings jump in D) ???? How much the general population salary increased? http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/gdp-per-capita Based on GDP, A) Salary cannot catch up with current interest rate for B) , US already increased rates, would we reduce? or increase? C) are we in this current cycle? D) for property sifu to comments |
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Dec 20 2016, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(BSS30112015 @ Dec 19 2016, 03:45 PM) Malaysia Air Force Academy is least I worry as there is deadline TUDM need to move out for the development of Bandar Malaysia, this is Jibkor project the funds sure come. Market value However whoever invest in BSS need strong holding power as the township still maturing, easily another 3 to 5 years required to achieve more mature status. http://www.auctionlist.com.my/auction/inde...ate&ascdesc=ASC or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE |
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Dec 20 2016, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Dec 20 2016, 12:45 PM) A friend's DS corner at Bayu 2, after renovation, the bank valued RM550k. Bought RM450k from developer. Surprising valuations of RM550k, when you check the current auction listing, reserves is at 378k for a semi-dhttp://www.auctionlist.com.my/auction/inde...d=230915041530& Address : No. 1158, Jalan Hijayu 3/43, Hijayu 3, Bandar Sri Sendayan, 71950 Seremban, Negeri Sembilan Category : Residential Type : (Rumah Dua Tingkat Separuh Berkembar)Double Storey Semi Detached House Tenure : Freehold Land Size : 1,800 sq.ft Reserved Price (RM) : 378,000.00 Auction Date : 2017-01-23 QUOTE(Sharkyboom @ Dec 20 2016, 01:05 PM) Seremban is not ghost town, lotsa ppl live here, but not enough people for the price range currently those new houses are marketed at.and the ppl (lotsa retiree's) who live here already got their own house, why spend 500k ? Developer should just build a whole bunch of single storeys houses, these would be in great demand, but as all greedy developer they want to maximise profit Just wait 5 more years, when it really turn to abandonded house, can consider buy it for the cheap, my retirement home My target price for BSS would be 200+k for a DSL , some say it is a dream, but time will tell, just need to continue monitor the auction prices, where the true market value is determined, not some mumbo jumbo developer price I would not buy a DSL, getting old, Single storey works much better for me, no stairs to climb |
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Dec 20 2016, 02:02 PM
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Dec 20 2016, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(BSS30112015 @ Dec 20 2016, 02:48 PM) The so called semi-D is a double storey house from the land size 1,800 sqft we know, it look like a 22x90 DSL launching price around RM380K before discount in year 2013, anyway auction reserve price for sure lower than market price. This is not a good indicator. Anyone nearby can drive and take at look at No 1158, Jalan Hijayu 3/43? just to confirm it is a DSL not a Semi-DThe true indicator of the market value is the transacted price , let's wait and see how much this auction unit sells for It does not matter if the current advertised priced is at 1Million,500k or 300k, what matters is the transacted price QUOTE(BSS30112015 @ Dec 20 2016, 02:48 PM) RM200K for a double storey link house in BSS is very unlikely given weaking ringgit, increase of material, labour cost & higher compliance cost. If the price fall to RM200K that mean the overall economy is very bad, most people either lost their job and afraid losing job... BREXIT is unlikely, TRUMP win is unlikely, but, who knows? |
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