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 Bandar Sri Sendayan, Seremban, 5,233 acres First Class Township

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post Sep 16 2015, 12:20 PM

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Interesting place!
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 16 2015, 04:40 PM)
The D'Tempat Country Club is nice - Can't find sth comparable (all in one) in the neighbouring S2.
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Very true.

How about in Klang Valley? Any residential club house can compare?
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post Sep 16 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(jcvstlys @ Sep 16 2015, 02:17 PM)
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I think need 15 years.
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QUOTE(alvinheng @ Sep 16 2015, 10:11 PM)
Great thread. Bookmarked (:
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post Sep 17 2015, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 17 2015, 03:51 PM)
so hardcore  tongue.gif  laugh.gif  sweat.gif
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post Sep 25 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 20 2015, 09:48 PM)
"A recent visit to the centre found that about 100 home buyers had come forward to highlight the problems they faced to the developer."  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/citynew...-buyers-grouses
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I am a home owner and shareholder of this company. If this thing happens to Elvina units and it is not rectified in time, i will make sure to organise a parade at their AGM every year. flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif
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post Sep 26 2015, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 25 2015, 08:24 PM)
yes, please do it for the good of everyone in BSS  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Need to exercise our right when necessary! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 26 2015, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 26 2015, 12:35 AM)
wah so expensive. better buy sepang klia area
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What is so expensive bro?
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post Sep 26 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 09:31 AM)
I would guess you did not buy Elvina from Matrix Concepts Holding Berhad (MCHB), most probably your S&P signed with a RM2 company(a wholly owned subsidiary of MCHB). Sadly, but there's nothing you can do but sue the RM2 company and get maximum compensation ........ RM2  sad.gif

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What you said is just a common scenario, it is common that a mother company forms subsidiaries for different business or projects.

So you are right, the S&P is signed between BSS Development Sdn Bhd (689638-x), the owner, and the Menteri Besar. But are you sure that BSS Development is a RM2 company? hmm.gif

Be sure of your facts before you say things.
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post Sep 26 2015, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 09:53 AM)
Elvina launched Jun 2015.

USD to MYR @ Jun 2015 = 3.65 to 3.78

Current USD to MYR around 4.40+
- would it recover?
- would it drop somemore?

1) How much % of construction cost is tied to USD?
2) How much variation of construction cost did the developer catered for?
3) if MYR drop somemore, would Elvina be completed? and if completed (what about quality)?

And for units launched in 2011-2014 when USD to MYR was at 3.00 to 3.30, what happen to them?
Some are just completed, and some completing soon.
History always repeat it self.
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You are also pointing out something which is common and happening to the entire property development industry, not only Matrix facing problem with weak MYR.

Landed property is not that hard hit because most materials are from local, high rise buildings are the worst coz most materials are imported.

http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-ne...m_content=links
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post Sep 26 2015, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 08:49 PM)
Gambling - Wikipedia
Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize.

Buying an uncompleted unit with so much at risk. I would term it gambling.

"For the small purchaser... sometimes can't do too much on it... "
- even more reason for the small purchaser not to gamble their savings.

"If have choice, select reputable listed companies... at least more transparent on the financial report and investor relations info."
- and yet, the S&P is still signed with a RM2 company. blush.gif

Lots of sub-sale units available in and around Seremban at 150-300k. Adding another 100-200k for renovation/furnishing/fittings and you can have a piece of mind with a fully furnished+renovated home (+ with extra $$ in pocket)
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I urge you again to get your facts right before making a statement. Are you sure BSS Development Sdn Bhd is a Rm2 company?
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post Sep 26 2015, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 26 2015, 11:01 PM)
We can see in Matrix Concept Holdings Berhad Annual Report booklet (based on others listed companies AR booklet I see)
The paid-up capital of BSS Development Sdn Bhd sure are printed in it  icon_rolleyes.gif
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That's why i asked Ika bro to check the facts first before speak. brows.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 26 2015, 11:11 PM)
since u are shareholder of Matrix concept, why don't u post that part  rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif
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aiyo... tire leh, have to proof other people wrong... shakehead.gif
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post Sep 27 2015, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 08:49 PM)


Lots of sub-sale units available in and around Seremban at 150-300k. Adding another 100-200k for renovation/furnishing/fittings and you can have a piece of mind with a fully furnished+renovated home (+ with extra $$ in pocket)
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Yes, that's why sub-sale still has its market. There are people who prefer to buy something that are done and be sure. Nothing wrong with that, just different approach and different risk appetite.

Just like some people like to invest in blue chip companies, some people like to invest in micro chip or even private equities. Knowing that blue chip has lesser risk but ROE is lower. It is entirely a personal preference.
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 27 2015, 12:13 AM)
Does BSS House price will keep going up where there is no stop?
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The price is going up for sure but with a slower paste. I don't think the developer can afford to put a high price tag now when economy is so soft.
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QUOTE(waiwai79 @ Sep 27 2015, 12:17 AM)
Risk..... not equal to gambling lah.....
Everything also got risk..... depend on manageable risk or non manageable risk.
If house loan monthly payment just below 20% of your salary..., the risk is low. For someone who bought the same house with loan payment more than 50% of the salary.... the risk is higher..So u can see risk level actualy depend many criteria...

if you want to judge the housing development risk.... u need to consider more factors.... internal factors (developer cash flow, debt ratio, unbill sale, land bank, management capabilities....)...external factors (market risk, politics risk, currency risk, materials cost risk, monetary policy risk.....)

But friendly speaking..... my personal opinion.... the risk of property especially landed property in city is much lower than the share investment and bought the depreciation assets example car...
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Good point! Risk is not gambling, especially when it is a calculated risk. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 27 2015, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 26 2015, 12:53 PM)
I'm not an expert , that is why i'm asking the question  icon_question.gif
Most, if not all international  trades are quoted in USD.

Any expert in forum can answer this?
1) How much % of construction cost is tied to USD?
or
- How much % of construction cost required imported materials

Goverment statistics is provided, but do need an expert to convert it to actual value.

http://www.cidb.gov.my/cidbv4/index.php?op...mid=331&lang=en

My experience of simple renovations works in 2014 and 2015, i've noticed prices of lotsa stuffs increased.
An increase of RM3 for a pipe faucet is not a lot for an individual house owner. But when you doing few hundred houses multiple by x No. What would the decision be? use cheaper parts or absorbed the cost? hmm.gif
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Seems like no need to worry about weak MYR for Matrix.

Refer to Matrix concept 2014 annual report:

42. FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS (cont’d)
42.1 FINANCIAL RISK MANAGEMENT POLICIES
The Group’s policies in respect of the major areas of treasury activity are as follows:-
(a) Market Risk
(i) Foreign Currency Risk
The Group does not have any transactions or balances denominated in foreign currency
and hence is not exposed to foreign currency risks.


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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 27 2015, 11:42 AM)
The pricing of between BSS and secondary market the like senawang, loong chen, rasah jaya like earth and heaven.

Where you going to buy bro?
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Seremban bro, are you comparing apple to apple? Just like penny stocks they are cheap but doesn't mean it is good.

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 27 2015, 06:44 PM)
Stock yes,

Property I scare comment already.
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QUOTE(ikanair @ Sep 27 2015, 10:42 PM)
I'm not an expert on the property sector. As such i cannot properly judge the risk involved (i do wonder sometimes, if the "expert" are really the expert tongue.gif
I only got question and no much concrete answer.

To commit any amount of my salary(20% or 50%) for 20+ years on a promise by a salesperson.  rclxub.gif

The solution for me is simple. Don't take the risk(i.e. don't gamble)  sweat.gif
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Depends on whether you are a home buyer or a property investor. If you are a home buyer there are less risk, after all you get to use what you purchased.

There is one expert which is accessible by anyone, his name is Google. You can ask him and he will teach you anything you want to know.


If anyone were to commit to a sales and purchase agreement just by the word of the salesperson, i call that stupid.

Of course we have to do our homework, alot of homework before we commit. Do thorough research and findings, check developer's background and track record, know the who's who's behind. After we have done enough findings, weighted out the pros and cons, then the decision is said to have taken calculated risk into consideration.

Subsale also have risk, the neighbours, the management, the community, the switch in township development, natural disaster (earth quake is coming), etc. We can't live our life without exposing to risk. That's why we need to learn how to take risk and manage our risk. Another important thing to learn is to make good judgement to reduce mistakes in life.

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