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post Aug 19 2015, 01:32 PM, updated 11y ago

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Dear all forumers of Serious Kopitiam, I hope you all are well and having a great life.

Before I start here is a little bit something to read. More like an honest statement. Feel free to skip.

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1. I am an undiagnosed depressed person. All the symptoms are there and at times feeling hopeless and helpless. And also at times, the thought of leaving everything behind doesnt sounds so bad. However I have financial restraint. Thus why the thought of going to diagnose wasnt so appealing. I know I am sick. But I couldnt afford to pay.

2. I've been fighting it for years now without medications or professional helps. Up and down like a roller coaster ride. I want to feel better. I think maybe it is time to seek professional help.

3. Would like to ask do government hospital offers help for mental and psychology health? If so where could I find it. Any trusted hospital/clinic?

4. Just asking out of curiosity here, what about private and how much does it cost?

5. What are the treatments and how is the procedure?

6. Is it safe? Side effects? Confidential?

7. What sort of medications would they usually provide you with? And will it help make me feel better? How does it help me feel better?

8. Do you become dependent to medication? I am afraid of this. I dont want to. This is why I am hesitating and reluctant.

9. Aside from medications, what are other things they would do to help you?

11. How long is the period of recovery and do you really recover from it?

12. What are other things I can do aside from going to doctors and medications?

13. Do you guys have anything else to suggest as suggestions to help and ways to improve?

14. Also do they check all the symptoms accordingly and diagnosed you have this and that? Or they just conclude youre depressed? From reading aside from feeling depressed I personally think I have BPD (http://bpd.about.com/od/understandingbpd/a/whatisbpd.htm)

Thank you.

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Since you are aware of your situation, only you can get yourself out of that state (of course with a bit of external help here n there). Unless something else can snap you out of it. I can't blame /k if they only troll and label you attention seeking cause probably 99% NEVER faced your kinda situation before what more to say give help and advice you?
Depression is real and if you really need medication, get yourself diagnosed. Does your company provide panel doctor?

Anyway, just to share with you a short story:
“At a restaurant, a cockroach suddenly flew from somewhere and sat on a lady.

She started screaming out of fear.

With a panic stricken face and trembling voice, she started jumping, with both her hands desperately trying to get rid of the cockroach.

Her reaction was contagious, as everyone in her group also got panicky.

The lady finally managed to push the cockroach away but ...it landed on another lady in the group.

Now, it was the turn of the other lady in the group to continue the drama.

The waiter rushed forward to their rescue.

In the relay of throwing, the cockroach next fell upon the waiter.

The waiter stood firm, composed himself and observed the behavior of the cockroach on his shirt.

When he was confident enough, he grabbed it with his fingers and threw it out of the restaurant.

Sipping my coffee and watching the amusement, the antenna of my mind picked up a few thoughts and started wondering, was the cockroach

responsible for their histrionic behavior?

If so, then why was the waiter not disturbed?

He handled it near to perfection, without any chaos.

It is not the cockroach, but the inability of the ladies to handle the disturbance caused by the cockroach that disturbed the ladies.

I realized that, it is not the shouting of my father or my boss or my wife that disturbs me, but it's my inability to handle the disturbances caused by their shouting that disturbs me.

It's not the traffic jams on the road that disturbs me, but my inability to handle the disturbance caused by the traffic jam that disturbs me.

More than the problem, it's my reaction to the problem that creates chaos in my life.

Lessons learnt from the story:

I understood, I should not react in life.

I should always respond.

The women reacted, whereas the waiter responded.

Reactions are always instinctive, whereas responses are always well thought of, just and right to save a situation from going out of hands, to avoid cracks in relationship, to avoid taking decisions in anger, anxiety, stress or hurry.

A beautiful way to understand............LIFE.”

- Sundar Pich
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QUOTE(lukevin @ Aug 19 2015, 02:33 PM)
Since you are aware of your situation, only you can get yourself out of that state (of course with a bit of external help here n there). Unless something else can snap you out of it. I can't blame /k if they only troll and label you attention seeking cause probably 99% NEVER faced your kinda situation before what more to say give help and advice you?
Depression is real and if you really need medication, get yourself diagnosed. Does your company provide panel doctor?

Anyway, just to share with you a short story:
“At a restaurant, a cockroach suddenly flew from somewhere and sat on a lady.

She started screaming out of fear.

With a panic stricken face and trembling voice, she started jumping, with both her hands desperately trying to get rid of the cockroach.

Her reaction was contagious, as everyone in her group also got panicky.

The lady finally managed to push the cockroach away but ...it landed on another lady in the group.

Now, it was the turn of the other lady in the group to continue the drama.

The waiter rushed forward to their rescue.

In the relay of throwing, the cockroach next fell upon the waiter.

The waiter stood firm, composed himself and observed the behavior of the cockroach on his shirt.

When he was confident enough, he grabbed it with his fingers and threw it out of the restaurant.

Sipping my coffee and watching the amusement, the antenna of my mind picked up a few thoughts and started wondering, was the cockroach

responsible for their histrionic behavior?

If so, then why was the waiter not disturbed?

He handled it near to perfection, without any chaos.

It is not the cockroach, but the inability of the ladies to handle the disturbance caused by the cockroach that disturbed the ladies.

I realized that, it is not the shouting of my father or my boss or my wife that disturbs me, but it's my inability to handle the disturbances caused by their shouting that disturbs me.

It's not the traffic jams on the road that disturbs me, but my inability to handle the disturbance caused by the traffic jam that disturbs me.

More than the problem, it's my reaction to the problem that creates chaos in my life.

Lessons learnt from the story:

I understood, I should not react in life.

I should always respond.

The women reacted, whereas the waiter responded.

Reactions are always instinctive, whereas responses are always well thought of, just and right to save a situation from going out of hands, to avoid cracks in relationship, to avoid taking decisions in anger, anxiety, stress or hurry.

A beautiful way to understand............LIFE.” 

-        Sundar Pich
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Thank you.
Anyway, no. I am jobless at the moment.
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post Aug 19 2015, 05:24 PM

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U can withdraw epf acct2 under medical claim for severe depression..u get treatment from public hospital..cheers
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Whenever I feel very depress , I take a long walk in the middle of the night . Somehow I find relief when I walk .
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post Aug 19 2015, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Empathy @ Aug 19 2015, 06:50 PM)
Whenever I feel very depress , I take a long walk in the middle of the night . Somehow I find relief when I walk .
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Almost the same.

I found that taking a walk in the forest help ease my mind.
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i can relate to that.

seeking psy medication may make you feel better but will not get you out of the hole.

there are things in real life which cause you to be depressed and you should address that.

then again, i am not the best person to give advice to you.
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I am also depressed.. especially in recent months. Within 3-4 months, dont know how many countless nights i have cried. Almost everyday.

I feel hopeless. I feel casted aside. I feel useless.
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Try meditation, and try to find out what make u depressed about.

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I know exactly what you're going through. I myself am suffering from depression and I have anxiety disorder as well. Head out to Gov hosp to see psych. They'll give you medication and trust me it helps alot! But after a year or two, I suggest you cut down on the medication and slowly try to regain yourself again.

Im currently still trying to recover after 5 years of medication. If you refuse to go for professional help, the other best way is to pray. Praying helps alot as well. Or drive alone at night while listening to songs that will cheer you up. Good luck yea! Hope you'll recover and dont have to go through like what I had to go through. smile.gif
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Try helping others or doing some charity work. When you think less about yourself and focus more on others, it MAY help. Sometimes, thinking too much about oneself intensifies the feeling of depression.

Don't try any medication unless you intend to take it for the long term. Anti-depressants may work but you can't stop using once you start.
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Empathy Hi. I tried. It works temporarily. But the depression will come back. I am really sick. And problems so deep that I doubt anyone could help. Thank you by the way.

slimey Hi. Yes exactly my point. I always doubt that medications could help me in any way. Anything is always temporary fix. I am at my end of hope. I do not know what I should do. I tried to understand my problems and my sickness. But I cant make people understand. I really feel deeply hurt. I am lonely. I tried to address the problems but it just backfired to me and my depression is worsen. Maybe I dont have hope afterall. I dont know how to explain to you but perhaps what i wrote up there in the spoiler might gave you some information. But you dont have to if you do not want to.

hirano Hi hirano. First of all, a very big friendly hug for you. I could understand the pain of whats going on. But I know I could never understand your problem and what are you facing. If there is one thing common between us that I would know and understand the feeling, is pain. I wish I could do more for you but I am too seeking help to cure myself. If this is something good to hear, I pray you get better and dont ended up like me. So please get better.

nookie86 Hi there. A big hug for you. I wish you a pink of health and more happiness. I know how hard it is. Please get better.

agewisdom is it true? that is what i am afraid of. to feel addicted to it .
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agewisdom is it true? that is what i am afraid of. to feel addicted to it .
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I'm not 100% sure, but since anti-depressants affect your brain, there's definitely going to be withdrawal symptoms once you stop using them.

Personally, I would only do so as a last resort. sweat.gif

Life is tough at times, religion may help.

Personally, I think helping others, even be it some simple tasks can take your mind of your own problems and you'll realize everyone's facing their own demons too, so you're not as alone as you think.

Just take things one day at a time. Some days you might feel very down, the next day, things will look brighter again. Life is dynamic, there's always good and bad so we just have to deal with it the best we can.

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But if you've reached a stage where it's serious, then professional help would be the best. Hopefully you can find one that will try to diagnose the problems instead of medicating via anti-depressants. unsure.gif

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Was depressed for 7 months before meeting the doctor,then i went to see the a doctor where he gave me antidepressants.it was 3 weeks supply for rm 2xx.
To be honest i didnt feel a thing when tasking the meds and when i was off the meds,i didnt have any withdrawal symptoms.
maybe it was a mild antidepressant or it could just be plain sugar tablets. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(green_algae @ Aug 21 2015, 03:42 PM)
Was depressed for 7 months before meeting the doctor,then i went to see the a doctor where he gave me antidepressants.it was 3 weeks supply for rm 2xx.
To be honest i didnt feel a thing when tasking the meds and when i was off the meds,i didnt have any withdrawal symptoms.
maybe it was a mild antidepressant or it could just be plain sugar tablets. sweat.gif
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no withdrawal symptom afterward? does that means the antidepressant works?

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 21 2015, 04:14 PM)
no withdrawal symptom afterward? does that means the antidepressant works?
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i think the doctor gave me some mild medication,the stronger ones are reserved for the more serious cases.
I found some relief when taking it but it might just be the placebo effect.
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Aug 21 2015, 04:22 PM)
i think the doctor gave me some mild medication,the stronger ones are reserved for the more serious cases.
I found some relief when taking it but it might just be the placebo effect.
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How long had you taken the med?

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 21 2015, 04:45 PM)
How long had you taken the med?
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about 6 weeks,i stopped after that.
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Aug 21 2015, 04:47 PM)
about 6 weeks,i stopped after that.
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So the med provided lasted more than that supposedly or did you take more?
by the way where is this?
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 21 2015, 06:54 PM)
So the med provided lasted more than that supposedly or did you take more?
by the way where is this?
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Just enough.I went yo Dr Dass in pj.
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Aug 21 2015, 07:38 PM)
Just enough.I went yo Dr Dass in pj.
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No side effects? No over dependant to the med?
How are you now?
How's the procedure by the way
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 22 2015, 12:32 AM)
No side effects? No over dependant to the med?
How are you now?
How's the procedure by the way
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Nope.I'm fine now.just register and wait for your turn,it's straight forward.
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Aug 22 2015, 08:19 AM)
Nope.I'm fine now.just register and wait for your turn,it's straight forward.
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any name for the med?
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 20 2015, 07:58 PM)
Empathy Hi. I tried. It works temporarily. But the depression will come back. I am really sick. And problems so deep that I doubt anyone could help. Thank you by the way.

slimey Hi. Yes exactly my point. I always doubt that medications could help me in any way. Anything is always temporary fix. I am at my end of hope. I do not know what I should do. I tried to understand my problems and my sickness. But I cant make people understand. I really feel deeply hurt. I am lonely. I tried to address the problems but it just backfired to me and my depression is worsen. Maybe I dont have hope afterall. I dont know how to explain to you but perhaps what i wrote up there in the spoiler might gave you some information. But you dont have to if you
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I think u first need the cognitive behavioral therapy. Med can help u to go thru the first rough period, but thinking change is the final solution.

Best wishes to u!

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 19 2015, 01:32 PM)
1. I am an undiagnosed depressed person. All the symptoms are there and at times feeling hopeless and helpless. And also at times, the thought of leaving everything behind doesnt sounds so bad. However I have financial restraint. Thus why the thought of going to diagnose wasnt so appealing. I know I am sick. But I couldnt afford to pay.

2. I've been fighting it for years now without medications or professional helps. Up and down like a roller coaster ride. I want to feel better. I think maybe it is time to seek professional help.
i dunno but sometime its better to go alone

3. Would like to ask do government hospital offers help for mental and psychology health? If so where could I find it. Any trusted hospital/clinic?
dont go to govt hospital, they are not expert at treating clinical depression they more expert at schizoprenic pipul.

4. Just asking out of curiosity here, what about private and how much does it cost?
around 150-200 per visit including meds.

5. What are the treatments and how is the procedure?
u'll be getting anti-depressant

6. Is it safe? Side effects? Confidential?
sleepy & tired for a while.. after it'll just blank no feelings.

7. What sort of medications would they usually provide you with? And will it help make me feel better? How does it help me feel better?
i was on prozac before, it kills the sadness (im diagnosed with MDD)

8. Do you become dependent to medication? I am afraid of this. I dont want to. This is why I am hesitating and reluctant.
no. that thing is nasty.. u dont fall in love with it.. u'll hate it more as u gets better.

9. Aside from medications, what are other things they would do to help you?
my sis brings me to see the bomoh  laugh.gif

11. How long is the period of recovery and do you really recover from it?
quite long.. for me more than 5 years.. doses up and down

12. What are other things I can do aside from going to doctors and medications?
find faith?

13. Do you guys have anything else to suggest as suggestions to help and ways to improve?
excercise?

14. Also do they check all the symptoms accordingly and diagnosed you have this and that? Or they just conclude youre depressed? From reading aside from feeling depressed I personally think I have BPD (http://bpd.about.com/od/understandingbpd/a/whatisbpd.htm)
me it was an accident, back in days i used to drink a lot, i didnt even know i had it.. ur think ur fine but u r hurting the people around you.

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my advise skips gomen hospital, they dunno jack shit! go private better.. u dun want to end up in ward with schizoprenic pipul.

another thing, if u can dont tell ur family about it..try going alone.. because
depressed pipul = org gila to them.. they'll start treating u differently after.. u dont want that..

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I was in your situation few years ago, I was prescribed Lexapro. It did not help me, but I have almost overcome all my fears because I met my Pastor.

Go to church, trust me, they can help you...

Btw I'm not a Christian...but I believe in God


P/s I am a happy girl now biggrin.gif

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"...problems so deep that I doubt anyone could help."

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 20 2015, 07:58 PM)

hirano Hi hirano. First of all, a very big friendly hug for you. I could understand the pain of whats going on. But I know I could never understand your problem and what are you facing. If there is one thing common between us that I would know and understand the feeling, is pain. I wish I could do more for you but I am too seeking help to cure myself. If this is something good to hear, I pray you get better and dont ended up like me. So please get better.
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Point #4 in spoiler, im feeling all that.

Even right now writing this... I just dont know how already. Deep inside feel very depressed and sad. Outside at work, i put a mask. Alone at home, i am all alone. Lonely. Unappreciated. Hopeless. Each time everyday i pray to god, i am crying.
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Aug 22 2015, 09:41 AM)
any name for the med?
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Don't depends on med. it will have withdraw effects. Sometime, we are depressed due to problems that are out of our control. Trust me, I also am suffering from depression. The only thing that I am doing now and it also have been keeping me from breaking apart are don't think about it. Learn to not give too many thought or care about the problem , especially the problem that you will be facing everyday. Also make sure you accept it as realities and accept it as how it will go.
QUOTE(hirano @ Aug 25 2015, 09:56 PM)
Point #4 in spoiler, im feeling all that.

Even right now writing this...  I just dont know how already. Deep inside feel very depressed and sad. Outside at work, i put a mask. Alone at home, i am all alone. Lonely. Unappreciated. Hopeless. Each time everyday i pray to god, i am crying.
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blink.gif blink.gif

Seem like we are all wearing mask eh. That is the reason why last time I wanna went out for outing. It's better to hangout and do something rather than at home and face the wall. Sometime, it's really depressed to face the blank wall all the time.

Anyway.. *hugs*
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I think I have depression too. I am too stressed at work that I keep taking short nap in the morning and afternoon. At night cant sleep and difficult to wake up in the morning. Sometimes suicidal thought crossed my mind. I lost interest in everything. Every night keep praying to give me strength to go through difficult times.
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sorry to hear that but u r not alone.

Religion, if u have faith in a religion, pray and learn more. Not seeking it to help your situation, but seeking it for better understanding. Focus on that.

Exercise. It helps a lot. Force yourself to have a regime so u are doing something. But don't overdo it. Again, learn and study which exercise u wanna try out, try different things but keep it safe.

Go out. Make it a point to never stay at home the whole day . Ever. Do not think Whr u gonna go, just go, w money in your pocket for transport and food. That's good enough.

Don't try to understand your depressions, be coz if we could do that, we wouldn't be in such state. It will only spiral downwards uncontralabily.

Food and diet. Eat fresh, and eat well. Find out which food brings u down and which may be better for you under such circumstances. For example, coffee, alcohol, junk food, may make things worst.

A holistic approach is best.

While I do agree going to gov hospital may be bad, as the medication given can be very very strong. But there is no harm trying. I heard UM Is better compared to HKL. the fees ain't exp at all, say maybe rm20 w mess and consultation. Bad part is u don't always get the same doc. But it would be a start, as u get used to it, how it feels like seeking professional help. If u think the mess is too strong ; too blur, a blank mind, emotionless; tell that to the doc, and maybe asked for a different prescription.

Do not expect a magic pill to make this all go away, it is a lifetime commitment to understand yourself. There will be ups and downs handling it. Take heart, you are only growing.

So .., think, do... Do not think too much, just do. Then come back tweak it and do. U will be less in a downward spiral as days pass. Do not set a goal, take it day to day. Be kind to yourself. Stop being too critical of yourself and the situation. Do talk to friends and family, someone you feel comfortable sharing and crying. Perfectly normal to cry.

Have a blessed day.
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try eat less meat and more vege
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Aside from eating clean, walk barefoot in a park or somewhere nature. Depression is something that you are stuck on your mind. Let it go to Mother Nature and in reverse it will heal you. Try it. It's free . No side effect.

 

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