guess what, I am putting my boy in such an environment with some advice 'la' ..... I told him he had two choices.....be glum about it or breakout and thrive.....guess what the 12 year old chose ?

Dunno about you, I am of the thought that the greatest and the worst thing on this planet are humans. But I wont let a few rotten apples spoil my day.

Anyways we need more good peeps to break that cycle =) by not procreating the ALLEGEDLY BAD GOV wins, dude.

You have a point. That's not my only concern though. If I'm going to have a child I want to home-school him and spend most my time taking care of him. I wouldn't trust anyone else to take care of him, even my parents or relatives. Since I wasn't born with a silver spoon and I have to work, it's in the best interest not to have a child.

I hope you have not snipped yet =D

You worry too much, people were having children through the worst of times throughout the history of humanity.

I have a son and I know more than a few couples intimately who have ummm 'furkids' (a rather demeaning word to actual children all over the world and those of us who were once and still are).

You have to talk to people who are in the 50s who are childless. Get more insights into it before actually committing and pls pls dun think one can replace a child (who talks back =D) with a PET.

Good luck!

Why do you want to be sterilized permanently?
If you want your wife to be unable to get pregnant, get her hormonal implant.

She will not be able to get pregnant for 3 YEARS per implant.

See below:

http://www.implanon-usa.com/en/consumer/index.xhtml

It is not available in Govt Clinic/Hospital. You will have to get your wife implanted with it in private hospital.

never know that it exists.

It does. You can try inquiring private hospitals for it.
You wont have to become permanently sterile with implanon available.

Implanon is available at LPPKN. Subsidised. 3 yrs pregnancy free, no pills needed.

Nah, I've seen too much. People have children all for their selfish reasons. I'm not interested.

Wow, people sure are harsh towards others who do not want kids. Why can't we all just respect each other choices in life instead of forcing our beliefs onto each other?

TS, looks like you might need to go overseas for the procedure or look at other methods of birth control for your wife, such as implanon stated above. Me and my partner talked about this too and I didn't know vasectomy isn't available in this country. Guess I'll speak to my Gynae about implanon soon. Thanks for the thread and all the best to your search

who told you this rubbish?

Interesting. I was not aware that Malaysia doesn't have the vasectomy procedure.

please keep your backward thinking to yourself. btw i dont share the same view with ts either. having children is not hoping for any returns. its the joyful moments spent with the kids, the satisfaction gained in showing your kids to the world, those are just priceless.

Must one be married to have that done at LPPKN? Or any female can walk in and get it done?

Yea, me too. Thought it was available since I'm pretty sure I've studied about it in school years back. I know ligation is available as I have relatives who had it done, but this is new to me too.

I think need to be married to get it done at LPPKN/KK for it to be subsidised.. but private clinic can do it for singles, just not subsidised.

Thanks for the info.

It is not backward thinking basically. What ever we do, we need to think of the cause and effect of our act.
Is something like you want to steal everyday, but don't want to get caught.

No one is asking for your opinion on whether society (or you) deems it's alright or its wrong to not want to have kids. And no one can force their opinion on someone else.

So if you have nothing better to say, please stop derailing the topic or actions will be taken.

If an implant under your skin is not your thing, another good alternative is Mirena (about 3-5yrs) or copper IUD.

Mirena helps with pain/bleeding etc..no systemic hormonal effect. But way more expensive.

Nurses in KK often prefer copper IUD than Implanon (cheap, can take out easily).

This post has been edited by Syd G: Dec 19 2015, 06:54 PM

Pain/bleeding as in menstrual cramps and bleeding? Sounds good.

My hormones are quite sensitive too so preferably something that will not or least affect the hormones. Will look into Mirena as well.

Yes menstrual cramps and bleeding. Very light periods afterwards because the mechanism is to thin out the endometrium. Not because you're going into menopause or something

Implanon works via systemic circulation (spread hormones from your arms to your body, and hits your reproductive organs), but Mirena works by local release of hormone. But do get your gynae's advice. Not some stranger on the Internet