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post Jul 25 2013, 10:48 AM

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Just need a confirmation here. I understand from the posts that squats and deadlifts are necessary if we are to push our body to it's full potential but so far, for the past 2 months of gym work outs, i've only used machines and nothing of deadlifts.

Is that bad?
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post Jul 27 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jul 25 2013, 10:48 AM)
Just need a confirmation here. I understand from the posts that squats and deadlifts are necessary if we are to push our body to it's full potential but so far, for the past 2 months of gym work outs, i've only used machines and nothing of deadlifts.

Is that bad?
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nothing is "necessary"

but it does do a lot of good biggrin.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 11:07 PM

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Funny as it seems but i just did a body assessment and apparently, i lost 0.5kg fat mass from the trunk area but i've gained 0.2kg fat mass on each of my legs -.-

Gained 1.2kg muscle mass on the trunk area and lost 0.6kg muscle mass from each leg.

The rest of my body remained unchanged.

Now, the muscle mass lost number is worrying and i think this is probably due to me not stuffing enough calories before i hit the gym or is there any other explanation?

In respect of the fat mass gained on each of the legs -.- i really do not know what the hell happened, my diet has been the same since the last time i did the assessment and my workout routine has been maintained (with several occasions of increasing the weights)

The only thing that i did extra was a 2.5KM threadmill at 8.5 speed and i've increased my protein intake (eggs, beancurd and whey shakes)

The trainer attended to me told me i've not stressed my muscles enough but does that equals to fat mass gain ?
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post Aug 1 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jul 31 2013, 11:07 PM)
Funny as it seems but i just did a body assessment and apparently, i lost 0.5kg fat mass from the trunk area but i've gained 0.2kg fat mass on each of my legs -.-

Gained 1.2kg muscle mass on the trunk area and lost 0.6kg muscle mass from each leg.

The rest of my body remained unchanged.

Now, the muscle mass lost number is worrying and i think this is probably due to me not stuffing enough calories before i hit the gym or is there any other explanation?

In respect of the fat mass gained on each of the legs -.- i really do not know what the hell happened, my diet has been the same since the last time i did the assessment and my workout routine has been maintained (with several occasions of increasing the weights)

The only thing that i did extra was a 2.5KM threadmill at 8.5 speed and i've increased my protein intake (eggs, beancurd and whey shakes)

The trainer attended to me told me i've not stressed my muscles enough but does that equals to fat mass gain ?
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1 - 2 kg deviation that's not too significant. Portable machine body composition analysers aren't that accurate.
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post Aug 1 2013, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jul 31 2013, 11:07 PM)
Funny as it seems but i just did a body assessment and apparently, i lost 0.5kg fat mass from the trunk area but i've gained 0.2kg fat mass on each of my legs -.-

Gained 1.2kg muscle mass on the trunk area and lost 0.6kg muscle mass from each leg.

The rest of my body remained unchanged.

Now, the muscle mass lost number is worrying and i think this is probably due to me not stuffing enough calories before i hit the gym or is there any other explanation?

In respect of the fat mass gained on each of the legs -.- i really do not know what the hell happened, my diet has been the same since the last time i did the assessment and my workout routine has been maintained (with several occasions of increasing the weights)

The only thing that i did extra was a 2.5KM threadmill at 8.5 speed and i've increased my protein intake (eggs, beancurd and whey shakes)

The trainer attended to me told me i've not stressed my muscles enough but does that equals to fat mass gain ?
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im more curious to know how you get your info. how do you measure fat/muscle loss/gain in each of your bodyparts?

that said, i think you're overthinking it. if you think you're adding too much fat, cut your calories a bit and vice versa
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post Aug 2 2013, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Aug 1 2013, 11:30 PM)
im more curious to know how you get your info. how do you measure fat/muscle loss/gain in each of your bodyparts?

that said, i think you're overthinking it. if you think you're adding too much fat, cut your calories a bit and vice versa
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the info was obtained through the report from the body assessment machine in the gym, it's a "4-point" where you stood on top of 2 steel plates barefooted and held on to 2 grips. not sure how accurate it was but i used it as one of the guide as to how it affects my pattern of workout.


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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Aug 2 2013, 12:16 AM)
the info was obtained through the report from the body assessment machine in the gym, it's a "4-point" where you stood on top of 2 steel plates barefooted and held on to 2 grips. not sure how accurate it was but i used it as one of the guide as to how it affects my pattern of workout.
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That machine ain't accurate tbh. A small increase of water in your body can increase/decrease those fat% value so don't take your result too seriously.
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Me to working going to aerobics daily for an hour in the evening.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Aug 2 2013, 12:16 AM)
the info was obtained through the report from the body assessment machine in the gym, it's a "4-point" where you stood on top of 2 steel plates barefooted and held on to 2 grips. not sure how accurate it was but i used it as one of the guide as to how it affects my pattern of workout.
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you should read this

It is better to forget aboout body fat percentage
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Aug 4 2013, 08:22 PM)
The article do provide substantial information about why we should forget about bf%. Butbf% also will tell us whether our diet is working or not. Sometimes mirror and our eyes will play fool with us and by having a 2nd opinion from a machine (taken weekly using BIA or Calliper), it would be much better.

With weekly bf% measurement, we can know whether our current diet goes along with our current goal and if not, adjustment can be done to that diet. Same as weighing scale, we can't take and reduction on weighing scale as a reduce in body fat because it might be muscle loss.
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post Aug 9 2013, 01:29 AM

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I have a question, a brief one actually, hence I've decided to ask here rather than to open a thread.

I have been working out for well over a year, went from 55kgs to about 66kgs right now. However, my gains are definitely there, but however slower compared to the last couple of months.

Has/ does anyone do drop sets? I overheard a few guys talking about it at the gym the other day. Should I start heavy and go light?

What do I need to know about drop sets? And do I even need to do drop sets in the first place? Or stick to my usual routines?

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post Aug 9 2013, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Aug 9 2013, 01:29 AM)
I have a question, a brief one actually, hence I've decided to ask here rather than to open a thread.

I have been working out for well over a year, went from 55kgs to about 66kgs right now. However, my gains are definitely there, but however slower compared to the last couple of months.

Has/ does anyone do drop sets? I overheard a few guys talking about it at the gym the other day. Should I start heavy and go light?   

What do I need to know about drop sets? And do I even need to do drop sets in the first place? Or stick to my usual routines?

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Dropsets are a method of completely exhausting the muscle by technically hitting failure multiple times in a set. They're sometimes used to help in breaking plateaus or just to change things in a routine. They're not necessary and you can get by without ever doing them but they are fun to do sometimes just to 'feel' like you're pushing that extra bit more.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 9 2013, 02:20 AM)
Dropsets are a method of completely exhausting the muscle by technically hitting failure multiple times in a set. They're sometimes used to help in breaking plateaus or just to change things in a routine. They're not necessary and you can get by without ever doing them but they are fun to do sometimes just to 'feel' like you're pushing that extra bit more.
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I thought of giving dropsets a try actually, I've never done them before.
So basically right now I'm lifting light to heavy at 10 reps per set, 4 sets per workout.

If I decide to do dropsets, I'll be doing heavy to light at 10 reps per set, 4 sets per workout? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Seager @ Aug 9 2013, 02:24 AM)
I thought of giving dropsets a try actually, I've never done them before.
So basically right now I'm lifting light to heavy at 10 reps per set, 4 sets per workout.

If I decide to do dropsets, I'll be doing heavy to light at 10 reps per set, 4 sets per workout? hmm.gif
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Not exactly. I mean, it's not set in stone, but you'd generally only incorporate a dropset on the last set of an exercise, or do one all out set. What I'd do is pick a weight I can get 5-8 reps with and hit as many as I can, drop the weight by 15-20% or so and repeat, then drop the weight maybe once or twice more.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 9 2013, 01:04 PM)
Not exactly. I mean, it's not set in stone, but you'd generally only incorporate a dropset on the last set of an exercise, or do one all out set. What I'd do is pick a weight I can get 5-8 reps with and hit as many as I can, drop the weight by 15-20% or so and repeat, then drop the weight maybe once or twice more.
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Ah.. Okay I think I have a better idea now.
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post Aug 13 2013, 04:29 PM

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post Aug 15 2013, 04:59 PM

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i see many ppl here keep saying to eat eggs,eggs, EGGS!!!
morning also eat eggs, noon also,night also..EGGS everywhre!!!
i just wanna know which type of eggs u guys meant?
half-boil? hard boil? sorry i noobie as just started working out.

if i dun take any of those 2 types above, so lets say if i break the eggs into a bowl and stir 'em up and add some milk and quick fry it ok anot? kinda like scramble egg la.
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post Aug 15 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(vng69 @ Aug 15 2013, 04:59 PM)
i see many ppl here keep saying to eat eggs,eggs, EGGS!!!
morning also eat eggs, noon also,night also..EGGS everywhre!!!
i just wanna know which type of eggs u guys meant?
half-boil? hard boil? sorry i noobie as just started working out.

if i dun take any of those 2 types above, so lets say if i break the eggs into a bowl and stir 'em up and add some milk and quick fry it ok anot? kinda like scramble egg la.
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The only reason eggs are mentioned is because they're cheap, high-in protein, fats, and nutrient packed.
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post Aug 15 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Aug 15 2013, 05:03 PM)
The only reason eggs are mentioned is because they're cheap, high-in protein, fats, and nutrient packed.
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ohhh i see.
but that's the downside..i can never swallow down half-boiled eggs.
hard boiled eggs ok like those they put in nasi lemak tat type. those i can eat but 1 piece enuf for me.
if scramble i can eat a lot cos i like, i dunno why but i just like it scrambled.
so will scramble eggs do?
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QUOTE(vng69 @ Aug 15 2013, 05:07 PM)
ohhh i see.
but that's the downside..i can never swallow down half-boiled eggs.
hard boiled eggs ok like those they put in nasi lemak tat type. those i can eat but 1 piece enuf for me.
if scramble i can eat a lot cos i like, i dunno why but i just like it scrambled.
so will scramble eggs do?
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Whatever works for you. Then again, do explore ways to mask the taste of half-boiled eggs that you dislike, as you can technically 'drink' more half-solid food than eat more solid food.

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