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 XBOX 360/ Xbox one Controller for PC V2, Ditch Em 360 controllers now lets xbone

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post Jan 29 2021, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 28 2021, 11:24 PM)
So i need a controller for fifa games.

I saw many different type of xbox controllers on lazada its really confusing

Xbox core controller  https://s.lazada.com.my/s.cKBHd
Xbox wireless with usb c https://s.lazada.com.my/s.cq0P9

And many other xbox controllers

I need clarification and guidance please which one is best
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The easiest to identify the new ones is the D-Pad, it's slightly different. The Series X one. Careful cause i did spot some sellers selling it at Series X prices but it's actually the older model. Well, the photo shows that the D-Pad is the old model ones.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 29 2021, 12:23 AM)
Panasonic Eneloop is no longer the best, they're now made in China and actually does not have as many recharge cycles as the OG Sanyo Eneloop.

The best right now is the Fujitsu Rechargeable battery. FDK Corp bought over the old Sanyo factory, so ALL the technologies from Sanyo is now used by Fujitsu to make their batteries in Japan. Basically what I'm saying is Fujitsu rechargeable batteries are now re-wrapped Sanyo Eneloops, but cheaper than Panasonic's rebranded Eneloop.
Those 2 are the same. The second link comes with an extra USB-C cable.

Both of them are also wrongly named, those are the Series X controllers. There is no such thing as a "core" controller.
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Oh perfect, thanks! i noticed the Fujitsu ones, it's all red and sakura-ish. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2021, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 29 2021, 12:23 AM)

Those 2 are the same. The second link comes with an extra USB-C cable.

Both of them are also wrongly named, those are the Series X controllers. There is no such thing as a "core" controller.
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C cable can use my huawei phone also right.

QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jan 29 2021, 01:49 AM)
The easiest to identify the new ones is the D-Pad, it's slightly different. The Series X one. Careful cause i did spot some sellers selling it at Series X prices but it's actually the older model. Well, the photo shows that the D-Pad is the old model ones.

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Can u link me an example of latest xbox controller with reasonable price? Appreciate it
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 29 2021, 07:06 AM)
C cable can use my huawei phone also right.
Can u link me an example of latest xbox controller with reasonable price? Appreciate it
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https://shopee.com.my/product/58650252/2142...00-1611877751.9
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post Jan 29 2021, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 28 2021, 11:24 PM)
So i need a controller for fifa games.

I saw many different type of xbox controllers on lazada its really confusing

Xbox core controller  https://s.lazada.com.my/s.cKBHd
Xbox wireless with usb c https://s.lazada.com.my/s.cq0P9

And many other xbox controllers

I need clarification and guidance please which one is best
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You can just buy from Impulse, link: https://shopee.com.my/Xbox-Series-S-X-Wirel...2477.6062802409
Currently there are only Xbox one, Xbox series and Xbox elite controller.
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post Jan 29 2021, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jan 29 2021, 07:49 AM)
QUOTE(okw1 @ Jan 29 2021, 08:13 AM)
You can just buy from Impulse, link: https://shopee.com.my/Xbox-Series-S-X-Wirel...2477.6062802409
Currently there are only Xbox one, Xbox series and Xbox elite controller.
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Thanks guys. Will make a trip ltr to impulse sunway as its near me and can game instantly later. Both pricing similar after coupons with impulse 254 and the former 255 for one wireless controller with usb c

I also saw impulse selling xbox elite series x at rm749 per controller. Whats the premium about that?
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post Jan 29 2021, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 29 2021, 09:35 AM)
Thanks guys. Will make a trip ltr to impulse sunway as its near me and can game instantly later. Both pricing similar after coupons with impulse 254 and the former 255 for one wireless controller with usb c

I also saw impulse selling xbox elite series x at rm749 per controller. Whats the premium about that?
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Elite Series has some drifting issues i think.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/microsoft-wants-...ed-out-of-court
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post Jan 29 2021, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 29 2021, 09:35 AM)
Thanks guys. Will make a trip ltr to impulse sunway as its near me and can game instantly later. Both pricing similar after coupons with impulse 254 and the former 255 for one wireless controller with usb c

I also saw impulse selling xbox elite series x at rm749 per controller. Whats the premium about that?
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Elite and Elite V2 are just much higher quality build than the standard controllers. You can extra paddles to map your face buttons so you can activate them with your pinky or ring fingers. For the V2, it's also built in Li-Ion battery, so you only need a cable to recharge it.

But the Elite do have QC issues though. Analog stick drifting being the most prominent one. Input lag being higher than the standard controllers also and the buttons can also fail prematurely. Paying a premium but not getting premium QC. That said, aside from the issues (if you get a perfect sample), it is MUCH better than the standard controllers.

The one most prominent feature for the Elite V2 I can't live without is being able to tighten the tension on the analog sticks, I do not like the standard controller's tension. Much more used to DualShock tension, so only Elite V2 has tuning feature to mimic that.

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post Jan 29 2021, 07:47 PM

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Got it.

Couldn't wait for shipping.

Very grippy. The ergonomics is excellent. No carpal tunnel or de quervains whatsoever wrist pain or uncomfortable of sorts after 6 hrs prolonged fifa run.

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 29 2021, 07:06 AM)
C cable can use my huawei phone also right.
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game controller bundled cable is normally really long, such as 3 meter or more.
i'm using a long 3-meter USB3 extension cable + typical phone cable just to be on the cheap side. tongue.gif when it comes to long length, cable gauge matter.

update: just realized you bought it already. hope you like it.

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 29 2021, 09:35 PM)
game controller bundled cable is normally really long, such as 3 meter or more.
i'm using a long 3-meter USB3 extension cable + typical phone cable just to be on the cheap side.  tongue.gif  when it comes to long length, cable gauge matter.

update: just realized you bought it already. hope you like it.
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yep I love it,

I can sit very far behind and enjoy the play without batteries so its good
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post Jan 30 2021, 11:53 PM

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hey all, the xbox pass available for malaysia too?
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post Jan 31 2021, 12:38 PM

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other than the share button on the controller, what else is different?
currently, I'm using the previous version without the share button, xbox one s controller with the original BT adapter.
Just curious will the new controller pair with my current BT adapter?
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QUOTE(Rainings @ Jan 31 2021, 12:38 PM)
other than the share button on the controller, what else is different?
currently, I'm using the previous version without the share button, xbox one s controller with the original BT adapter.
Just curious will the new controller pair with my current BT adapter?
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- LB/RB bumper buttons are slightly shallower, so it conforms more to those with shorter index fingers.

- D-pad is now a hybrid circular disc instead of a + shape. Like it or not is preference.

- There is now perforated texture on the triggers, it is also matte material instead of gloss.

- Input lag is lower but only on Xbox Series X, Win10 hasn't have any driver update yet to bring it in line with XSX input latency levels.


Yes the new controller will pair with any BT adapter as long as it's 4.0 and above. However connecting with BT does have higher input lag (this applies to the older Xbox One X/S controllers as well).
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post Jan 31 2021, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2021, 03:55 PM)
- LB/RB bumper buttons are slightly shallower, so it conforms more to those with shorter index fingers.

- D-pad is now a hybrid circular disc instead of a + shape. Like it or not is preference.

- There is now perforated texture on the triggers, it is also matte material instead of gloss.

- Input lag is lower but only on Xbox Series X, Win10 hasn't have any driver update yet to bring it in line with XSX input latency levels.
Yes the new controller will pair with any BT adapter as long as it's 4.0 and above. However connecting with BT does have higher input lag (this applies to the older Xbox One X/S controllers as well).
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thx for the details list down.
sry let me correct my sentence.. I mean im currently using the original Xbox wireless dongle.
this one, it will still pair with the new controller?
regarding the input lag... which means require to get a new dongle as well?
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this dongle should be the new one. from the xbox website
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not sure what are the difference between these 2

after some digging, looks like only the size difference.
i wans't aware they release a new dongle.
somehow is not really that new it release at 2018 i think sweat.gif
i got the older one.
https://www.windowscentral.com/new-xbox-wir...-adapter-review

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post Jan 31 2021, 07:07 PM

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The old dongle still works yes. The new one there is no difference other than size.
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Jan 30 2021, 11:53 PM)
hey all, the xbox pass available for malaysia too?
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I got a 14 day passcode from buying controller

But i dont think i use it lol
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post Feb 1 2021, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 31 2021, 03:55 PM)
- LB/RB bumper buttons are slightly shallower, so it conforms more to those with shorter index fingers.

- D-pad is now a hybrid circular disc instead of a + shape. Like it or not is preference.

- There is now perforated texture on the triggers, it is also matte material instead of gloss.

- Input lag is lower but only on Xbox Series X, Win10 hasn't have any driver update yet to bring it in line with XSX input latency levels.
Yes the new controller will pair with any BT adapter as long as it's 4.0 and above. However connecting with BT does have higher input lag (this applies to the older Xbox One X/S controllers as well).
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Is the input lag very significant? Currently using the cable, but have been thinking to get BT adapter and rechargeable batteries for the sake of convenience.

Looks like you need to update the firmware?

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/fo...e8-0daac5f10985

QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 31 2021, 09:42 PM)
I got a 14 day passcode from buying controller

But i dont think i use it lol
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Yeah i have that as well. The game that i want to play is expensive on Steam and is available on Xbox game pass, was thinking to subscribe to it for a month for $1 and that's it.
Then I went Shopee and saw people selling the legit steam keys for cheap so just bought it straight out. xD whistling.gif

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post Feb 1 2021, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Feb 1 2021, 01:25 PM)
Is the input lag very significant? Currently using the cable, but have been thinking to get BT adapter and rechargeable batteries for the sake of convenience.

Looks like you need to update the firmware?

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/fo...e8-0daac5f10985
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The latest driver is included in this Win 10 update package - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/o...f5-7be1ebec1518
So honestly, that's not new at all.

To me, input lag on BT is significantly worse than with the wireless adapter. Wired is still the best of course, but the wireless input latency with the wireless adapter is low enough that only if you play competitively then the difference matters.
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My own experience, using xbox one latest gen controller with bt dongle is suck. The joystick intermittently unresponsive, buttons sometimes register wrong input. I got 2 bt dongle, but both quiet some years have it so don't know if newer dongle with different chipset is better. This is last year when my pc still on 1909 version so also don't know if newer version fix such issue. Bought the wireless dongle and all issues disappear. Can even use earphone on my controller now, but got statics sound.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 1 2021, 07:48 PM)
The latest driver is included in this Win 10 update package - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/o...f5-7be1ebec1518
So honestly, that's not new at all.

To me, input lag on BT is significantly worse than with the wireless adapter. Wired is still the best of course, but the wireless input latency with the wireless adapter is low enough that only if you play competitively then the difference matters.
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aiyo, ok lah. Guess it's best that I still use the cable.
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