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Investment EKOCHERAS @ JALAN CHERAS (V4) [MRT PROPERTY] [OT], Where Cheras becomes Mont'Jiulai

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post Jan 16 2020, 03:39 PM

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I am sure icey cheh got all the statistics in order to derive at national average.

icey please share.
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post Jan 16 2020, 03:41 PM

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SoongChieng,
go search HK lives in Penang video. the guy name is Jason.
he mentioned it while he was doing field reserch in Langkawi. just aired yesterday.

I can easily paste the link here, but I wont. bcos you also never share with me my question 'is eko cheras car stolen case is the 1st in KUL for the past one year?'

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post Jan 16 2020, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(lolwei @ Jan 16 2020, 02:10 PM)
I dunno. Do you?

How many listings there are in Penang and JB (and other states) relative to KL? Is it:

A) 1:1?
B) 2:1?
C) 10:1?

If we assume the answer is A and the extreme assumption is that Non-KL has 0% occupancy rate[/U], then the maximum possible KL occupancy rate is 34%[U].

If the answer is B, then it's 51%.

Of course this is all assuming that the 17% nationwide average is accurate.

Like I keep saying, I actually dunno so I'm not making any conclusions. I'm just a stats lover. If vehicle stats then I ok lah.  tongue.gif
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Typical data would follow normal distribution. with >35,000 listing, some occupancy could be >330 days, similarly some occupancy could be <10 days. national average may not accurate individually but is a good enough yardstick to gauge aggregate businesses.

one could always pick bone from egg; for the tree and miss the forest. for the same reasons, many were focused on particular development and missed out the growing overhang a few years ago.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 16 2020, 04:18 PM
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post Jan 16 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Jan 16 2020, 03:41 PM)
SoongChieng,
go search HK lives in Penang video. the guy name is Jason.
he mentioned it while he was doing field reserch in Langkawi. just aired yesterday.

I can easily paste the link here, but I wont. bcos you also never share with me my question 'is eko cheras car stolen case is the 1st in KUL for the past one year?'
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i thought that was rhetoric. ok . and thanks for the low blow misspelling my name
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post Jan 16 2020, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Dec 26 2019, 11:33 AM)
yes even vested, you remained quite objective. someone can't  brows.gif
its good enough to help potential buyers decide, instead of white knighting.
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With the negative posts flooding this thread, it should be easy for you to make the decision...

The other pokok awan project is also not bad...

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post Jan 16 2020, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Jan 16 2020, 05:10 PM)
With the negative posts flooding this thread, it should be easy for you to make the decision...

The other pokok awan project is also not bad...
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like i said in previous post , this project has its merit, just that i am still waiting for the right entry price ( might not able to get to that price tho ).
else i would have moved away lol, why bother commenting in topic i am not interested in?

"The other pokok awan project is also not bad..."
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post Jan 16 2020, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Jan 16 2020, 07:20 PM)
like i said in previous post , this project has its merit, just that i am still waiting for the right entry price ( might not able to get to that price tho ).
else i would have moved away lol, why bother commenting in topic i am not interested in?

"The other pokok awan project is also not bad..."
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Do you give yourself a timeout window of waiting for the right entry price?

Haha... Me following other threads too and at least not alone eyeing auction unit(s)...

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post Jan 17 2020, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Jan 16 2020, 06:46 PM)
Do you give yourself a timeout window of waiting for the right entry price?

Haha... Me following other threads too and at least not alone eyeing auction unit(s)...
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Not really a window , but i am prepared to accept that the reward for being
permanently on the lookout for opportunity sometimes resembled an answered prayer tongue.gif

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post Jan 17 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Jan 16 2020, 06:20 PM)
like i said in previous post , this project has its merit, just that i am still waiting for the right entry price ( might not able to get to that price tho ).
else i would have moved away lol, why bother commenting in topic i am not interested in?

"The other pokok awan project is also not bad..."
stalker brows.gif
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I've been casually hunting for a property for my own stay and this is one of those in my list.

I'm actually quite a very suibian person when it comes to these defects as long as my life is not at risk and it's not happening inside my unit. Helps that my other half is also interested in this prop, even though I haven't show her this thread yet. devil.gif

I've dropped by the mall a couple of times quite recently and believe that the people will be there to stay, so it won't be those sort of shitty empty mall.

Who knew Village Grocer will be such a big draw. Many rich uncle and aunties in Cheras. laugh.gif

Will continue accumulating my resources for another year or two before making my decision.

P/S: Goes without saying the price must be right also. sweat.gif

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post Jan 17 2020, 10:08 AM

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Not sure is Eko cheras page or Airbnb page
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post Jan 17 2020, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Jan 15 2020, 02:38 PM)
what is 'SOHO" concept that you liked??? what is your knowledge of SOHO concept?
haters are like that....

whatever good, they wont talk...…

they just want to highlight the worst...….or create story to damage the reputation of ekocheras bcos whatever they owned, they cant beat eko and what they don't owned, they just sour grapes.
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sorry i dont mean to bad mouth the development..i like SOHO coz downstair is all the shops..no need to travel out to get stuff..
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post Jan 17 2020, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(montyashley80 @ Jan 17 2020, 11:34 AM)
sorry i dont mean to bad mouth the development..i like SOHO coz downstair is all the shops..no need to travel out to get stuff..
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I just been playing devil advocate here....pls ignore those messages....bcos there are simply too many haters here. I will ignore them all. Haters gain power via reactions only. when there is no reaction, they will die of natural dead.

OK back to your concept of SOHO.

downstairs got shop is called commercial land title, and not SOHO. All commercial land title developments (saved for some exemption) NEED to have commercial elements be it offices or retails IF developer wants to sell residential elements in the project, hence the shops. Whereas residential land title condo they don't have to build shop within the land parcel.

SOHO (small office Home office) is a concept started in New York where unit is dual usage. It can be used as office, or home or both. BUT in Malaysia, the laws don't catered for this type of concept, therefore developer needs to decide if they want to sell as 'apartments' or 'office suites, such as SOVO SOFO and etc'. Usually SOHO is sold under residential usage and protected under HDA under schedule H, meaning strictly for residential usage but in reality, it can be used as dual functions. If other resi users die die want to make a big issues out of some owners used as office, they could be in the right as all legal docs shown as such.

for this particular project, even thought the developer cited SOHO for block J and H, but in reality they hardly create facilities for SOHO elements, but more like a typical service apartments only. a proper GRADE A soho project will have at least a "office' board at Lobby, indicating office names, and a dedicated reception counter and perhaps an easy access and exit for customers to visit your unit.

Also, SOHO usually don't come with free carpark for owners unit bcos some owners may not have vehicles. they usually rent from management if they need one or two lots.
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lol says the person reacts to haters by delicately quote and reply every "hater"'s message . how can you be so full of yourself. to say you ignored them rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(SongChiang @ Jan 17 2020, 03:49 PM)
lol says the person reacts to haters by delicately quote and reply every "hater"'s message . how can you be so full of yourself. to say you ignored them  rclxms.gif
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Investment is supposed to be rational and neutral in feeling. only those invest by gut feeling, emotion and sentiment would brand different opinion "haters", and is often cursed e.g cbj, btc, gold, etc.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 17 2020, 04:35 PM)
Investment is supposed to be rational and neutral in feeling. only those invest by gut feeling, emotion and sentiment would brand different opinion "haters", and is often cursed e.g cbj, btc, gold, etc.
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i like you ah rclxms.gif
numbers don't lie tho.
your investment doing good, doesn't mean others in the project is doing as well. if not property won't have poor people d lu.
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QUOTE(lolwei @ Jan 17 2020, 11:05 AM)
I've been casually hunting for a property for my own stay and this is one of those in my list.

I'm actually quite a very suibian person when it comes to these defects as long as my life is not at risk and it's not happening inside my unit. Helps that my other half is also interested in this prop, even though I haven't show her this thread yet.  devil.gif

I've dropped by the mall a couple of times quite recently and believe that the people will be there to stay, so it won't be those sort of shitty empty mall.

Who knew Village Grocer will be such a big draw. Many rich uncle and aunties in Cheras.  laugh.gif

Will continue accumulating my resources for another year or two before making my decision.

P/S: Goes without saying the price must be right also.  sweat.gif
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Feel free to show her this thread. Some posts are worse than the actual for sure. At least she is mentally prepared.

This post has been edited by Jagalat: Jan 21 2020, 01:53 PM
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Hi, any residents of Block J here? Do you have problem installing wifi? Thanks?
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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Jan 17 2020, 11:56 AM)
I just been playing devil advocate here....pls ignore those messages....bcos there are simply too many haters here. I will ignore them all. Haters gain power via reactions only. when there is no reaction, they will die of natural dead.

OK back to your concept of SOHO.

downstairs got shop is called commercial land title, and not SOHO. All commercial land title developments (saved for some exemption) NEED to have commercial elements be it offices or retails IF developer wants to sell residential elements in the project, hence the shops. Whereas residential land title condo they don't have to build shop within the land parcel.

SOHO (small office Home office) is a concept started in New York where unit is dual usage. It can be used as office, or home or both. BUT in Malaysia, the laws don't catered for this type of concept, therefore developer needs to decide if they want to sell as 'apartments' or 'office suites, such as SOVO SOFO and etc'. Usually SOHO is sold under residential usage and protected under HDA under schedule H, meaning strictly for residential usage but in reality, it can be used as dual functions. If other resi users die die want to make a big issues out of some owners used as office, they could be in the right as all legal docs shown as such.

for this particular project, even thought the developer cited SOHO for block J and H, but in reality they hardly create facilities for SOHO elements, but more like a typical service apartments only. a proper GRADE A soho project will have at least a "office' board at Lobby, indicating office names, and a dedicated reception counter and perhaps an easy access and exit for customers to visit your unit.

Also, SOHO usually don't come with free carpark for owners unit bcos some owners may not have vehicles. they usually rent from management if they need one or two lots.
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sorry..my bad..newbies when it come to property..
thank you sifu smile.gif

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post Jan 22 2020, 10:38 PM

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Good information. Thanks for sharing rclxms.gif

QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Jan 17 2020, 11:56 AM)
I just been playing devil advocate here....pls ignore those messages....bcos there are simply too many haters here. I will ignore them all. Haters gain power via reactions only. when there is no reaction, they will die of natural dead.

OK back to your concept of SOHO.

downstairs got shop is called commercial land title, and not SOHO. All commercial land title developments (saved for some exemption) NEED to have commercial elements be it offices or retails IF developer wants to sell residential elements in the project, hence the shops. Whereas residential land title condo they don't have to build shop within the land parcel.

SOHO (small office Home office) is a concept started in New York where unit is dual usage. It can be used as office, or home or both. BUT in Malaysia, the laws don't catered for this type of concept, therefore developer needs to decide if they want to sell as 'apartments' or 'office suites, such as SOVO SOFO and etc'. Usually SOHO is sold under residential usage and protected under HDA under schedule H, meaning strictly for residential usage but in reality, it can be used as dual functions. If other resi users die die want to make a big issues out of some owners used as office, they could be in the right as all legal docs shown as such.

for this particular project, even thought the developer cited SOHO for block J and H, but in reality they hardly create facilities for SOHO elements, but more like a typical service apartments only. a proper GRADE A soho project will have at least a "office' board at Lobby, indicating office names, and a dedicated reception counter and perhaps an easy access and exit for customers to visit your unit.

Also, SOHO usually don't come with free carpark for owners unit bcos some owners may not have vehicles. they usually rent from management if they need one or two lots.
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QUOTE(scarypoolparty @ Jan 15 2020, 07:47 PM)
It was supposed to be btw the lobby entrances btw block j n h.

Now they sealed the entrance and exit out....it was there just before vp.
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Ahhh.... ok. its the entrance in between Old Town Kopitiam and Starbucks. It seems like its a small roundabout with a fountain in the middle.
it would have been really nice if that entrance is open. Really convenient i would say.

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