9lai

You were just based on one event and talks for 3 to 4 days.
Did you know the blackout was for how long and the water discruption was for how long???

You didnt know all these info YET keep on talking abt the same thing for days after days...

Might as well just annouced your real intention here what you like to achieve and maybe we can help you to fasttrack the movement.

Wat to laugh?????

Owners of sv 1 n 2 how much psf they were paying??? Compared to ekc????

How many sunway velo owners actually make money out of their investment there?????

You think i stay in this forum to protect my vested interest?
How many vested interest i have here do you know????

You dun even know a single thing about me yet talk like you know a great deal.

People will dig negative stuff even if you bought 4seasons or damansara heights. I thought of all people you should have this rule clearly understood. There is no perfect property.....
And every person has an ass...they can comment whatever they liked....what am i here to correct them?????

But stealing is not cool. So as fractual reporting.

Don't question sifu Bean's golden finger to choose his impeccable property...

It cuts both ways.....

Was developer didnt declare the concept or

Was buyer didnt bother to ask???

This project sold without show unit and proper sales gallery.

Not all owners not happy abt the final outcome....and please dont fan sentiment here, if you dont even have vested interest.

+100. He can whack everyone's property but when his own one kena he gets triggered and name call the guy sharing the pics.

Until their own dirty laundry been aired out in the public.

But am not so critical abt the pixs, if 9lai can explain properly its purposes .....But so far he kept numb.....to answer any questions......typical person w no gut or balls

Are you mr.wilchee thong? If yes please explain to us how is it more expensive? Me and i believe a great deal of forummer here are eager to drink from wilchee’s great wisdom. Very curious to know and as mr.wilchee claim, because is expensive, no other developer dare to adopt such concept.. because other developers only bother to make money out from their buyers by giving tiles and luxury finishing which apparently cheaper cost than industrial concept

Ask this owner

3 of us stuck at block e lift, and the lift sudden drop... we going up to level 36,  thought will die today... damn it.. damn dangerous

The lift bomba... and air cond all shut down.. inside cannot breath.. the fastest technician can come is 30 min...

They said it always happen for lift bomba, which is the one we always use

And I go and argue with the control room, they said cannot shut down the lift. Cus it’s Mitsubishi maintenance, and they still allow people to use... I insist to ask the guard block the lift... and wait for technician to check first

It’s standard sop, emergency stop then they will shut down the Aircond... mean if drag longer or technician stuck at traffic, all people trap inside cannot breath... Eko control room cannot force open the lift

They can only block the entrance of the lift but the lift still running.. from level G, he said they cannot do anything if upper floor people use that lift, they cannot shut down just one lift...

I never declare my property possession in public forum be it here or elsewhere. The vested interest notion was formed by other people and i never admit or deny it.

Few issues here i can easily defend but what the heck, at best you will say bcos i am vested or name calling or personal attack.

I saved my time to smell the roses and listen to the wind caresses the leaves better. Of course not in malaysia where the air pollution index is off the chart.

You have a great week ahead.

https://youtu.be/0ScpUeYIPNw?t=108

Not sure who this guy is , but should be from developer site.

Listen to his "justification" from 1:48 onward. 

My personal favorite "got 100+ toilets in the mall, picture only show 1 toilet defect"

Nowadays youngsters like to cut their jeans to look trendy mah...lol. but for property, it is si beh sian when daily have to see rundown car park with those dirty rusty pillars walls and walking on narrow corridor back home like going to a warehouse storage bin.

if this industrial concept is cost cutting and cheaper, why wouldn't other developers follow??? bcos other developers don't want to make too much money from buyers???

please dun be keyboard hero SongChiang…...you need to see the rental yields here before open your big mouth.....
also please dun ask me for figures bcos its a waste of my effort to spoon feed your lazy bum.
my apologize for having to use my fine French.

your last sentence is laughable, you didn't even invest here,,,,,,,,but its your loss, not mine.

A few savour fine dining, some like casual, many find comfort in mamak stall.

A few at ease in coat and tie, some like casual, many find comfort in t shirt. Similarly for leather shoes, sneakers and slippers.

One can bring a man out from kampung but not easy to bring kampung out from a man.

to be honest this concept will make the interior looks very run down in another few years...it might even look like a abandon building

good news is that once the JMB is formed there will be improvements and hope everything will be sorted out.

if one never seek clarification from developer about the theme or design concept from developer before signing spa, then who is to blame? you cant exactly demand developer to restore whatever designs back to what you like, what you think can yield better rate and what work for you, rite?

lets put in this way......compared to buyers of Cyberjaya highrise or even some reputable developments such as Tropicana, Lumi and etc....am sure your rental yields still beat the hell out of those 'traditional' concept.

so what is your figure said? yields under 3%? or under 5% or above 5%?

haiz….why I need to explain every single sentence that I posted here...….pls lah…..read between the line....this is not English class elementary level...…

"your lost, not mine" is referring to you...….nothing to do with me.

One interesting that I saw from their initial sales brochure, there are no sign of such "raw" concept included in the illustration. Yes yes it's for illustration purpose only, but still.. At least currently their website does have such design concept in their revised illustration.

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We are not here to argue tiles finishes is the best method or not, of course there are a lot of raw finishes example but eco cheras simply not in this class for raw finishes, because raw finishes required a high grade of concrete skill and special form work skill, which we don't see in eco cheras, this is just poorly done structural work with no architectural finishes

Uncle bean attacking all the properties in market...
But now he bite the karma...

Ekocheras Residence will be next scott garden?

Let see..

A quick check on rental units availability shows.....packed with investors I guess .
On average the asking price is about 2K and above but I think this might come down due to internal competition among the investors. Soon to join Aster, Annnex.....

I won't buy ekovest project anymore.

Eko Cheras buyer here

We will not buy any properties from them too, it is one of the worse in the market:

1. VP without borang F, the whole building is not ready
2. A few items are changed from original building plan
3. Mis-selling of concept, premium vs incomplete job
4. One of the worse customer service, NEVER attend but just muted
5. Defects rectification shall be a month, but take months to complete

If a company has no sense of branding or quality, one shall learn from many Malaysia or world company, else nobody made u a clown but yourself

ah,,,,,you are damned wrong....

I am waiting for the repeat of owners vs YTL Reeds case here.....

am just waiting for all the NATO kings and queens to take legal action against the developer....

am just sitting pretty here to receiving more compensation than them.

I only pray to Agong notes. Don't care who pays me,

Please do not mislead the others by your personal opinion, any form of brochure, advertisement are deemed to be fulfil by the developer, refer to the case study below;

Brochure is considered as one of the form of advertisement as defined in Section 2 of the HDR:

“Advertisement” means any notification or intimation of housing development —

(a) published in any newspaper, journal or magazine, or in the form of a brochure or in any other form; or

(b) displayed on any hoarding, boarding, roof, wall, piling, fence, frame, signboard, plate, cloth, bar, pillar, post, wire-casting or other erection, structure or contrivance; or

© conveyed by means of films or communications; or

(d) conveyed by other means oral or written and whether of the same kind or not as set out in paragraphs (a) to ©.

HDR does not only control the types of advertisements but also the contents of such advertisements. It is statutorily mandatory for particulars stated in Regulation 6 of the HDR to be inserted in any advertisement (other than those conveyed by means of broadcast sound receivers or through television receivers) made by any licensed housing developer.

Further, under Regulation 5 of the HDR, any advertisement and sale material that is used to make the sale must first be submitted in its final content and form -including all disclaimers- for approval by the Controller. Should there be any changes or deviations from the first proposed materials, these should be approved by the Controller as well, or they would be deemed invalid.

JUDICIAL ATTITUDE
In the case of Lim Sew Lan v Pembangunan Hysham Sdn Bhd & Anor [1999] 4 CLJ 701, the court held that the plaintiff had been induced to enter into the agreement by the defendants’ representations contained in its sales brochure. Where a statement is represented in such a way as to represent a fact which induces the representee to enter into a contract, then such statement intends to have contractual force and is thus a contractual term.

In the case of Cheong Bee Yong v Mbf Finance Bhd & Anor [2001] 5 MLJ 396, the second defendant, MBf Property Services Sdn Bhd, was managing certain property developers, which included Kabra Holdings Sdn Bhd. The latter was the developer of Ampang Hilir Condominium. The plaintiff purchased a unit of the condominuim from Kabra Holdings Sdn Bhd on the basis of an attractive offer advertised by the second defendant in a brochure. The brochure stated that no loan interests need to be paid until the issuance of the certificate of fitness. As no certificate of fitness of occupation (‘CF’) had been issued by the relevant authorities, the plaintiff sought a declaration that he need not pay back any loan interests to the first defendant until the CF has been issued.

The Court in granting the application with costs borne by the first defendant said that in the circumstances it would be grossly unethical and certainly most unfair for the first defendant to ask the plaintiff to pay whatever interest accruing to the first defendant before the CF is issued, because such expenses would have to be borne by the developer, as had been unequivocally stated by their manager, the second defendant, in the brochure. The way the brochure was worded, it must be regarded as an undertaking to pay whatever expenses that arose before the issuance of the CF and the plaintiff had acted by purchasing a unit on the strength of such undertaking.

The above case referred to the case decided by Gopal Sri Ram JCA in the case of MBF Property Services & Anor v Balasubramaniam a/l K Arumugam [2000] 2 MLJ 267, in which the judge in this case look at the similarities of the facts.

“The three documents; the sale and purchase agreement the agreement with the first appellant and the loan agreement with the second appellant, must be read together as they form part of the same transaction …

When the three documents are read as a whole, their effect is this. In the first place, the respondent shall purchase the property from the developer at a specified price and terms provided under the sale and purchase agreement. Thereafter, the first appellant shall keep the respondent indemnified and harmless in respect of any monetary payments due to the second appellant until the certificate of fitness of occupation is issued. Secondly, the second appellant will lend money to the respondent to pay for the purchase upon the mutual covenants contained in its letter of offer subject to the condition that the interest will be paid by the first appellant during the relevant period.”

The court further emphasis that the promotional materials are not trivial promotional materials, but are a solemn effort to convey a distinct mental image to the prospective buyer to persuade him to make not any mere booking but a commitment to purchase by payment of a non-refundable deposit in Ammer Ali Mohamad Yussof & Anor v Sunrise Bhd [2008] 1 LNS and whatever date that is mentioned in the brochure and all other promotional materials will prevailover date in the Sale and Purchase Agreement  as held in Faber Union Sdn Bhd v Tribunal Tuntutan Pembeli Rumah [2011] 7 CLJ 37.

In the latest case of Malaysia Land Properties Sdn Bhd v Waldrof & Windsor Joint Management Body [2014] 3 MLJ 467 the court held that the appellant  was bound by the sales brochure read together with the sale and purchase agreement. The law is to uphold what had been originally planned and approved namely, that the disputed area is common property. Once the purchasers had been given vacant possession of their respective parcels the performance of the sale and purchase agreements was complete. The appellant cannot be seen to be allowed to have any reservation of rights to be exercised ‘from time to time’ subsequently for its own benefit. In other words, the Developer has to honour the information contained in its brochure.

please ask yourself this question

how many new property launches a year in Malaysia vs how many successful cases where buyers managed to get a winning case out from developer?

please don't be a NATO. if got valid reason, please take legal action against the developer. I have no ill feeling with this. if you guys won, then I will follow up to seek the same compensation. like I said, I only trust Agong Notes and not all the politics.

why don't you quote Tropicana W residence vs the sledgehammer unka case? Or YTL Reeds vs Homeowners case?

don't come here and complaint this and that and never take your concern to the developer or authority, sounded just like sour grapes.

We all have freedom to speak here but do not mislead the others by his so called experience.  We respect others have different point of view provided not treating others like idiot