Ugh, everyday I'm getting less and less interested in replacing my 2500k with a skylake platform.  I guess what I'm gonna do with my rig overhaul budget(about 4k or so) is just get a new case and go all out on gpu...maybe get a 1080ti or whatever they decide to name it lol.

My u2412m is only 3 years old now. Have promised myself to not change it till the warranty is over, but it's getting harder and harder to do so, whatnot with the existence of 27" ips 144hz WQHD monitors these days!!!!

ooo i'll google that up then.

then this nvlink ? sounds like not only do i buy the pascal gpu, but also need a new motherboard with nvlink as well ?

they say it would look this basically



Molex's NeoScale: An example of a modern, high bandwidth mezzanine connector
Too much to quote, the rest is here
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7900/nvidia-...ecture-for-2016
anyway sounds like nvlink mobo isn't a pre-requisite to use a pascal, can still use pcie. but the question, would using nvlink for a single gpu be worth it ? or is it only going to help for multi gpu setups ? I'm not a fan of multi gpus cause of driver support issues so just wondering if upgrading to nvlink mobo is worth it for a single gpu setup. i rather wait for a cannonlake + before i upgrade 

haswell benefit

if u want more
faster encoding via the huge dmi bandwidth.
sata 3 native ports
usb 3 ports

skylake benefits
NVME ssd
native usb 3.1 ports ( not sure just assuming at this point)

skylake still deciding should i go nvme. definately no obvious gain other then watching ssd benchmarks.
zero benefit on gaming to be honest.

usb 3.1 seriously is there any device out there thats taking advantage of its direct access to dmi gen 1 speeds??

nvlink  its not something ure gonna see beneficial on daily commercial gaming setups.
it will how ever open up to a possible octa titan pascal. also with such tech i am pretty sure nvidia has solve some multi gpu scaling here.
also interesting part about nvlink is .. the ability of gpu to access ram and vram of the other gpu directly if i am not mistaken.
the tech is gonna solve current issues with multi gpu.

go get yourself a 144hz IPS monitor . You wont regret it man , game that you play feels really buttery smooth without sacrificing colors and viewing angle . I have not experience g-sync or freesync but 144hz is really worth it  provided you have a decent gpu

Think of it like having the COD esque movement feeling  when playing non COD games even on RTS or games like Diablo 3 .

Cannonlake wait till hair drop wont come out so soon pulled the trigger from lynfield 2 haswell last february with no regret haha

As 4 pascal, i still can hold out my kepler till Q3 next year if everything went according 2 plan. Being 30s means i no longer able 2 buy gpu every year unlike student days using sugar daddy money. Haha.

P/s : having 1500 per month used 2 be heaven like being student but now salary double that not enough 2 cover myself probably need quad only enough and dont start talking about after having children with me

That is unless i live malay way of 5 children with low grade milk powder hahahaha i know my 15 yrs longest serving malay supervisor ever with slightly higher salary than me already working in 2 years can support his 5 kids comfortably and maybe with some help from the G perhaps aiks

haswell benefit

if u want more
faster encoding via the huge dmi bandwidth.
sata 3 native ports
usb 3 ports

skylake benefits
NVME ssd
native usb 3.1 ports ( not sure just assuming at this point)

skylake still deciding should i go nvme. definately no obvious gain other then watching ssd benchmarks.
zero benefit on gaming to be honest.

usb 3.1 seriously is there any device out there thats taking advantage of its direct access to dmi gen 1 speeds??

nvlink  its not something ure gonna see beneficial on daily commercial gaming setups.
it will how ever open up to a possible octa titan pascal. also with such tech i am pretty sure nvidia has solve some multi gpu scaling here.
also interesting part about nvlink is .. the ability of gpu to access ram and vram of the other gpu directly if i am not mistaken.
the tech is gonna solve current issues with multi gpu.

go get yourself a 144hz IPS monitor . You wont regret it man , game that you play feels really buttery smooth without sacrificing colors and viewing angle . I have not experience g-sync or freesync but 144hz is really worth it  provided you have a decent gpu

Think of it like having the COD esque movement feeling  when playing non COD games even on RTS or games like Diablo 3 .

well kepler was out in 2012, and pascal is out in 2016. so a 4 year upgrade seems due for me. or can possible delay by 1-2 year more for a volta (though i rather not do that). besides there just isn't enough info for what volta has to even warrant waiting. not to mention because volta was delayed, i suspect pascal more or less will be the base of what volta was, but is the product they will rush out first to cover the delay. so i'm placing my bet the performance difference won't be too huge from pascal and volta. besides theres always going to be something better. but i think pascal will be powerful enough to satisfy my pc gaming requirements for a long time

I think pascal is most likely to have a big performance upgrade to warrant upgrading in this point in juncture. i'm not the type of tech enthusiast who upgrades every next year, not rich enough for that 

but i can tell you know that kepler 680gtx for me is not enough for current games. i tried ultra settings on dragon age inquistion and it was totally unplayable. had to lower quality settings to medium/high 

not playing at 144hz gsync (but instead my paltry 60ghz triple sync vsync mode) is one thing; but not being able to play at ultra settings on a 1080p resolution on a 24'' lcd ips screen is a bit too much for me to ignore 

Moogle Stiltzkin
Well depending task but generally clock to clock

haswell DC has 10% single thread gain
Skylake has around 5 percent to haswell.

so 15.5% faster. Also comparing ivybridge to haswell is unfair as it depends on the task. Things like avx/avx2 encoding .. haswell is about 20-30 percent faster.

Skylake real benefit is the 20 pcie lane. So u can run sli with nvme. Also now mobile gpus can have either sli or native 16x single gpu with m.2 pcie ssd.

The cons is ddr4 is too immature. Any platform that has ddr3/ddr4 dimm slots.. dont expect too much from it. Same like p55.
DDR4 atm too immature. Generally i hoping for 4800 CL18-21

but expect rams to evolve slower this time since most rams in the world nowadays is either micron, samsung or sk hynix.
The later two seems to be concentrating on die stacking.

An update from sweclockers.com has revealed the code name of the next-next-gen AMD Radeon R9 400 Series GPUs. It goes without saying that the naming is pretty much irrelevant at such an early stage. The revealed codename for the series is Arctic Islands and the actual GPU name could be of any island present there. There is currently zero information regarding the Radeon R9 400 Series apart from the fact it will be based on a 20nm or lower node (most probably 16/14nm FinFET).

i'm waiting for hmc but there is hardly any news when intel will add support to their chipsets and motherboards for this. ddr4 seems like something gonna die real soon :/ especially now that stuff like hbm is coming out.

though i doubt hbm will be used on motherboards because it was designed for graphics usage. hmc was designed for pc. but from what i heard hmc is not a jedec standard ? not sure why 

so 15.5 % fps more ? from cpu 

i guess will have to test out first what fps i get on pascal. i'll be using on a 1080p 1920x1200 reso 24'' i think thats more than enuff to hit my 60fps cap when using triple buffering vsync 
by the way i preordered starcraft 2 legacy of the void. the graphics is not intensive at all .... lel... even my kepler can drive this game at ultra    fuggin blizzard.....

gotta put my hopes in new doom game to really push the gpu    though not sure how the game will be like. think carmack left that company :[
As i suspected amd is gonna rush out their pirate gpu
http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-400-series-gpus...arctic-islands/
but there is already speculation out how things will be like then *change 970 to pascal



small nm fabrication is good but i doubt it will be enough. have they had time to develop a new architecture to be more power efficient and still have great performance ? cause i hadn't heard anything about that. Unlike volta and pascal we at least long ago heard they were working on a new architecture 

Hello guys..

Hope to get some opinion here..currently using strix980.. And a 1080 monitor..
Selling my 980 off and upgrading to 980ti? Or get the acer predator?

Im leaning toward the monitor as my current one isnt great.. If i get the 980ti , could be a waste using it on a dell nom gsync monitor right?

Hello guys..

Hope to get some opinion here..currently using strix980.. And a 1080 monitor..
Selling my 980 off and upgrading to 980ti? Or get the acer predator?

Im leaning toward the monitor as my current one isnt great.. If i get the 980ti , could be a waste using it on a dell nom gsync monitor right?

i'd rather spend money on acer predator.

980 to 980ti isn't as good as 980 + acer predator.

10-20% fps gains is nothing compared to 144hz refresh rate, gsync, 1440p resolution, 27'' IPS !!!

besides if you already got a 980 why get a 980ti ? when they just reported that pascal is next year 2016 with double the transistor count and most likely to have gains of 50-60% over a titan x ?

anyway get the acer predator you won't regret 

Hello guys..

Hope to get some opinion here..currently using strix980.. And a 1080 monitor..
Selling my 980 off and upgrading to 980ti? Or get the acer predator?

Im leaning toward the monitor as my current one isnt great.. If i get the 980ti , could be a waste using it on a dell nom gsync monitor right?

i'd rather spend money on acer predator.

980 to 980ti isn't as good as 980 + acer predator.

10-20% fps gains is nothing compared to 144hz refresh rate, gsync, 1440p resolution, 27'' IPS !!!

besides if you already got a 980 why get a 980ti ? when they just reported that pascal is next year 2016 with double the transistor count and most likely to have gains of 50-60% over a titan x ?

anyway get the acer predator you won't regret 

i'd rather spend money on acer predator.

980 to 980ti isn't as good as 980 + acer predator.

10-20% fps gains is nothing compared to 144hz refresh rate, gsync, 1440p resolution, 27'' IPS !!!

besides if you already got a 980 why get a 980ti ? when they just reported that pascal is next year 2016 with double the transistor count and most likely to have gains of 50-60% over a titan x ?

anyway get the acer predator you won't regret 

I thought of upgrading my 980 to 980Ti too. However even if I can sell of my current card at RM1900, I still need to top up additional RM1400 to get 980Ti Strix (Strix to Strix for fair comparison) and this is just for about 20% to 40% fps gain. For RM1400 I think it is much better to spend on PS4 hahaha

Problem with Acer? Great panel, nice tech. But the cheapest ass looking glossy plastic and bezels as thick as 2008 monitors. Oh and don't get me started on the QC.... 
Over RM2k+ for a monitor, it is only right to expect something much better. It barely costs half as much to produce the monitor.

This is why I want Dell and LG to come up with their Gsync monitors. LG already makes their own IPS panels anyway, their curved screens has been doing pretty decent considering how niche that market is. So what the hell is stopping them?

Panel Coating
Light AG coating

Glossy black bezel and stand, some red trim on base

Anti-Glare Coating (AG)

The most common type of protective coating is ‘Anti-Glare’ (AG). This is often described as a matte coating as it is non-reflective to the user since it diffuses rather than reflects ambient light. It provides a method for manufacturers to avoid glare on the viewing surface from other light sources and has been used in the LCD monitor market for many years since the first TFT displays started to emerge.

This matte coating is included as an outer polarizing later which has been coarsened by mechanical or chemical processes. This achieves a surface coating which is not smooth and so can diffuse ambient light rather than reflect it. What is particularly important to understand is that this AG coating can be applied to panels with varying thicknesses, which has an impact on the anti-glare properties, but also on the underlying image of the screen. Where the coating is particularly thick and aggressive, the image from the screen can deteriorate as the light being emitted is also affected. This can have some impact on contrast and colour vibrancy and the perceived image can sometimes look dull as a result. Sharpness degradation can also occur in some extreme cases where AG coating is too thick. Users may also sometimes see the graininess of the coating, particularly when viewing white or light backgrounds. This can be particularly distracting for office work and images can look grainy or dirty if the coating is too aggressive. I would point out that not everyone would even notice this at all, and many users are perfectly happy with their screens even where aggressive AG is used. It’s just something to be wary of in case you have found problems with image quality in the past or are susceptible to it.

In other cases, AG coating is applied but it is light and far less obtrusive. The polarizer is less rough and has a lower haze value. Sometimes users refer to it as “semi-gloss” to distinguish the difference between these and the heavy AG coatings. This provides anti-glare properties but does not result in the grainy appearance of images. It is not a fully glossy solution though.

AG coating has long been the choice for nearly all professional-grade displays as well, helping to avoid issues with reflections and external light sources which are vital for colour critical work. In addition it should be noted that AG coating is less susceptible to dust, grease and dirt marks which can become an issue on reflective glossy coating alternatives.

May I know what's the different upgrading driver by going to nvidia website and download compare to going to windows updates and update the intel and nvidia driver ?