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matni01
post Mar 30 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 30 2016, 12:26 PM)
This "credit" can only be use for Viewnet  or can use on any MSI product?
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only at viewnet can use, 390 price there abt 1.6k.
idk what to do right now. cry.gif

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post Mar 30 2016, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(matni01 @ Mar 30 2016, 12:29 PM)
only at viewnet can use, 390 price there abt 1.6k.
idk what to do right now.  cry.gif
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How about 380/380X? Sapphire 380X Nitro 4GB? Do they will give you back the balance? If not, just go get 290X/390 with topup. SAPPHIRE R9 290X tri-x 8GB D5 512 1589?

OR spent for upgrade biggrin.gif
1.4k at viewnet:-
- CORE I7 4790K 1150 4.00 8MB 1449
- SSD CRUCIAL M500 960GB 1469
- SSD HYPER X SAVAGE 960GB 1499
- U2515H ips 5yr 25" 8MS 1440p H/W 1479
- MSI Z97A GAMING 9 ACK INTEL 1150 1499
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post Mar 30 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Mar 30 2016, 01:26 PM)
How about 380/380X? Sapphire 380X Nitro 4GB? Do they will give you back the balance? If not, just go get 290X/390 with topup. SAPPHIRE R9 290X tri-x 8GB D5 512 1589?

OR spent for upgrade  biggrin.gif
1.4k at viewnet:-
- CORE I7 4790K 1150 4.00 8MB 1449
- SSD CRUCIAL M500 960GB 1469
- SSD HYPER X SAVAGE 960GB 1499
- U2515H ips 5yr 25" 8MS 1440p H/W 1479
- MSI Z97A GAMING 9 ACK INTEL 1150 1499
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but i dont have any GPU, cannot upgrade T_T
money kinda tight budget right now
290x 8GB? is that the vapor one?
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post Mar 30 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(matni01 @ Mar 30 2016, 01:37 PM)
but i dont have any GPU, cannot upgrade T_T
money kinda tight budget right now
290x 8GB? is that the vapor one?
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It says there in the price list as Tri-X 290X 8GB. Sapphire have both Tri-X & Vapor-X with 8GB VRAM.
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post Mar 30 2016, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Mar 30 2016, 02:02 PM)
It says there in the price list as Tri-X 290X 8GB. Sapphire have both Tri-X & Vapor-X with 8GB VRAM.
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browse over tomshardware and LTT forum,
they said better get 390 cuz of th mem.speed and more TFlops
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post Mar 30 2016, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(matni01 @ Mar 30 2016, 12:29 PM)
only at viewnet can use, 390 price there abt 1.6k.
idk what to do right now.  cry.gif
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If i'm not mistaken we have MSI rep here in LYN, why don't you try PM him about this case?

QUOTE(matni01 @ Mar 30 2016, 02:15 PM)
browse over tomshardware and LTT forum,
they said better get 390 cuz of th mem.speed and more TFlops
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If you can find 290x 8GB Vapor-X that'll be the best option around ~RM15xx imo for it's beefy cooler and 10 phase VRM.. or is it 12 phase?
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post Mar 30 2016, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 30 2016, 02:26 PM)
imo for it's beefy cooler and 10 phase VRM.. or is it 12 phase?
10 phase
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post Mar 30 2016, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 30 2016, 10:22 AM)
That's more or less the same temperature on my ASUS STRIX R9 390 when playing games
Then I proceeded to remove the stock thermal paste (ASUS use too much!) then replace it with Arctic MX4, temperature drops 8°C. From 98°C to 90°C

Note: ASUS Malaysia allows doing these on their graphic cards (as long as there are no physical damage):
1. Change thermal paste
2. Change to better heatsink
3. Use liquid cooling

On high load, all 3 fans spins just fine but the temperatures is still at 90°C on load
Hence the reason why I change to PowerColor Devil R9 390X with it's AIO liquid cooler
Now my load temperature never exceeds 70°C. Idle at 42°C. No air-cond in the room

I guess air-cooling is not suitable for R9 390 & 390X
Especially with the current hot weather in Malaysia sweat.gif
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In US, people bitch about their graphics card at 80°c. Meanwhile in here, we're getting 90-100 (and throttled). Looks like these AMD are not suitable to be marketed here. Just like the FX9590. It seems water cooling is a MUST for these mid to high end cards.
Sigh... AMD and nvidia ignored the poor and hot countries.
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post Mar 30 2016, 07:08 PM

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Asus cooler for Hawaii/Grenada sucks. Same for Gigabyte 390s cooler and MSI TwinFrozr cooler for Hawaii/Grenada need a lot of airflow for it to perform decently in closed case.

This post has been edited by Acid_RuleZz: Mar 30 2016, 07:08 PM
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post Mar 30 2016, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 30 2016, 12:26 PM)
Yeah that what i expect or at least give option to change to other similar tier card. I read good rep about MSI warranty around the world  where they offered few options or simply give a free upgrades.  tongue.gif like 280x to 390.
This "credit" can only be use for Viewnet  or can use on any MSI product?
Only play Dota 2.. No time yet.
Somehow 30fps fluid motion did not work. Only 24fps available.
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ill give it a try ans see how rclxms.gif
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post Mar 30 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 30 2016, 06:42 PM)
In US, people bitch about their graphics card at 80°c. Meanwhile in here, we're getting 90-100 (and throttled). Looks like these AMD are not suitable to be marketed here. Just like the FX9590. It seems water cooling is a MUST for these mid to high end cards.
Sigh... AMD and nvidia ignored the poor and hot countries.
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It's very easy to reduce the temperature for graphics card for AMD cards. Even without any additional program you can simply lower Power Limit in Overdrive tab in control panel. With programs like MSI Afterburner you can lower voltage, better fan profile without sacrificing performance. For more advanced user, a simple vBIOS edit can gain even more power saving and temperature reduction. My current 290X works at mere 1.08V at stock 1GHz clockspeed, with tighter memory timing and with 150W power limit it never runs hotter than 70C
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post Mar 30 2016, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 30 2016, 06:42 PM)
In US, people bitch about their graphics card at 80°c. Meanwhile in here, we're getting 90-100 (and throttled). Looks like these AMD are not suitable to be marketed here. Just like the FX9590. It seems water cooling is a MUST for these mid to high end cards.
Sigh... AMD and nvidia ignored the poor and hot countries.
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I had three 390 series cards and I must say, the only one who really know how to cool their card well is Sapphire. Gigabyte (G1 Gaming) is a no-go, temp maxes out at 95C and it is screaming loud at full gaming load. So much for the irony of the original boxed reference cooler on the 290 series. Powercolor (PCS+) fared well, temps will not exceed 80C but again, the fan is screaming loud. Sapphire somehow managed to perfect their Tri-X cooler and temps hardly exceed 80C, fan noise was minimal. Of all the 390 series, I would vouch for Sapphire for a perfect balance between temps and noise. I think AMD used a higher stock voltage for their Grenada cores, and it is indeed a struggle for even 3rd party cooler to cool it down effectively.

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Mar 27 2016, 05:16 PM)
Woah overclocking Preshottt. I didn't dare to overclock one. I remember fixing my friend Prescott, I think it's 3.2E, or is it 2.8E which runs at 65C in BIOS because it's full of dust laugh.gif

I used to do 1GHz overclocking, first is Pentium 4 2AGHz (Northwood) to 3GHz, and Sempron 2500+ 1.4GHz to 2.5GHz. Even though I could do the same on my 4670k, I don't feel as excited since the Pentium 4 and Sempron I bought is dirt cheap, overclocking turns it from zero to hero. 4670K is expensive and meant for overclocking, so I don't feel special of doing so.
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Haha so true. I still love the good old days hardware when amd actually whoop intel ass with ATHLON and since the start of core 2 series, the competition became boring. laugh.gif doh.gif rclxub.gif as much i never liked athlon but i still hating monopoly. Hahahaha.

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post Mar 30 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Mar 30 2016, 08:03 PM)
ill give it a try ans see how  rclxms.gif
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NFS is smoother now with rare dips compare to last week and CPU utilization is higher for me. Not sure if it's the driver or game update or both.

Just noticed Need For Speed is TWIMTBP title now, no sign of Gimpworks DLL yet.

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post Mar 30 2016, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 30 2016, 06:42 PM)
In US, people bitch about their graphics card at 80°c. Meanwhile in here, we're getting 90-100 (and throttled). Looks like these AMD are not suitable to be marketed here. Just like the FX9590. It seems water cooling is a MUST for these mid to high end cards.
Sigh... AMD and nvidia ignored the poor and hot countries.
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What you need is investing on a better case & better case fans. Ditch immediately the stock case fans. These cards do really need good air flow and don't shy from using custom fan profile.

QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 30 2016, 09:09 PM)
I had three 390 series cards and I must say, the only one who really know how to cool their card well is Sapphire. Gigabyte (G1 Gaming) is a no-go, temp maxes out at 95C and it is screaming loud at full gaming load. So much for the irony of the original boxed reference cooler on the 290 series. Powercolor (PCS+) fared well, temps will not exceed 80C but again, the fan is screaming loud. Sapphire somehow managed to perfect their Tri-X cooler and temps hardly exceed 80C, fan noise was minimal. Of all the 390 series, I would vouch for Sapphire for a perfect balance between temps and noise. I think AMD used a higher stock voltage for their Grenada cores, and it is indeed a struggle for even 3rd party cooler to cool it down effectively.
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Yeah, Grenada cards generally have slightly higher voltage than Hawaii counterparts but it does have higher vdroop. Operating voltage is basically no higher than Hawaii.
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post Mar 31 2016, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 30 2016, 11:00 PM)
NFS is smoother now with rare dips compare to last week and CPU utilization is higher for me. Not sure if it's the driver or game update or both.

Just noticed Need For Speed is TWIMTBP title now, no sign of Gimpworks DLL yet.
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is this the new NFS ur testing ? is it out already on pc ?
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Mar 31 2016, 09:57 AM)
is this the new NFS ur testing ? is it out already on pc ?
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Yeah it's the new NFS. I think it's out already mid this month, i got it on trial since i subscribed to EA Origin Access. https://www.origin.com/en-sg/store/origin-access
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 31 2016, 10:11 AM)
Yeah it's the new NFS. I think it's out already mid this month, i got it on trial since i subscribed to EA Origin Access. https://www.origin.com/en-sg/store/origin-access
Origin Access only bagi 10 hours of playing the new NFS ranting.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 31 2016, 10:16 AM)
Origin Access only bagi 10 hours of playing the new NFS ranting.gif
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wah got time limit 1 ah...i should have know ....since its ea...diu
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 31 2016, 10:11 AM)
Yeah it's the new NFS. I think it's out already mid this month, i got it on trial since i subscribed to EA Origin Access. https://www.origin.com/en-sg/store/origin-access
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screenshots looks awesome, hopefully my r9 380x can cope hmm.gif , 60fps at 1080 sahaja saya mahu rclxms.gif

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