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post Sep 7 2015, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Sep 7 2015, 01:26 PM)
Just wondering if this is based on 390 core, or 390X core? Product seems to mention R9 390 X2. hmm.gif
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Dual 390 with a downclock memory, 1350mhz instead of 1500mhz. Maybe PCB got too hot with 1500mhz. hmm.gif

QUOTE(S4PH @ Sep 7 2015, 01:41 PM)
I'm sticking to my cfx290 at the moment, gpu is unaffordable at the moment.
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No point bro, very similar performance if not the same.
Buy a G10 if thermal is an issue.

Your next real upgrade is 16nm/14nm Artic Island/Pascal.
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post Sep 7 2015, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Sep 7 2015, 02:13 PM)
390 DARAB 2.

the spacing is quite important, else ppl will think its 390X2 = 390X CF.
since FuryX / Nano is out, will we see dual GPU = FuryX X2?
iinm, i remember AMD slide got shown dual gpu monster hmm.gif
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Yes, AMD do state they have official FuryX x2 just like R9 295 x2 last time.
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post Sep 7 2015, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Sep 7 2015, 02:13 PM)
390 DARAB 2.

the spacing is quite important, else ppl will think its 390X2 = 390X CF.
since FuryX / Nano is out, will we see dual GPU = FuryX X2?
iinm, i remember AMD slide got shown dual gpu monster hmm.gif
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Meaning it's dual 390 core right? Sorry, blur a bit. sweat.gif

Yes, I think surely will have dual Fury monster. The bare board was previewed last time by Lisa.
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post Sep 7 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Sep 7 2015, 05:39 PM)
Meaning it's dual 390 core right? Sorry, blur a bit. sweat.gif

Yes, I think surely will have dual Fury monster. The bare board was previewed last time by Lisa.
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Yeap.
i think aside vram size and mayb improved efficiency, the performance can use Devil 13 Dual 290 as reference as posted few post back.
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post Sep 7 2015, 09:26 PM

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http://wccftech.com/custom-sff-radeon-r9-n...core-processor/

18 core CPU and Nano in a sub 10L form factor... shocking.gif
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post Sep 7 2015, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 6 2015, 10:29 PM)
6 titan X...  hm i still enjoy watching his video.. smile.gif xx but hey is it his fault ?  AMD also should give him 6 Fury X, and bill gate should not drink poop water.. but hey.. Nvidia know best how game should be play" biggrin.gif
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Why is people skipping your comment?

Reviewers shouldn't be bias no matter what. It will only mislead people if that reviewer is bias. Moreover if you are a very famous reviewer u must be very professional and be responsible to what u said and done to help people out.
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post Sep 8 2015, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Sep 7 2015, 09:26 PM)
http://wccftech.com/custom-sff-radeon-r9-n...core-processor/

18 core CPU and Nano in a sub 10L form factor... shocking.gif
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drool.gif The Nano's fan makes me think the case has an intake on the front. laugh.gif
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post Sep 8 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Sep 7 2015, 09:26 PM)
http://wccftech.com/custom-sff-radeon-r9-n...core-processor/

18 core CPU and Nano in a sub 10L form factor... shocking.gif
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Dang, but this new case from DAN is smaller i think. Need to use riser for the GPU though.

edit: just notice that rig also use riser for the Nano.

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 7 2015, 09:54 PM)
Why is people skipping your comment?

Reviewers shouldn't be bias no matter what. It will only mislead people if that reviewer is bias. Moreover if you are a very famous reviewer u must be very professional and be responsible to what u said and done to help people out.
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Yes but most tech reviewer generate revenue from web traffics and sponsorship/ads especially popular site. One shit article about that specific company, you could lose your revenue.

From forumer Mahigan about tech journalist nowadays,
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I share your pain. I'm actually quite angry at it all myself. It seems that, over the course of time, Tech reviewers started to focus more on benchmarks rather than researching the ins and outs of various GPU architectures. The goal appears to be, by most tech journalists, to obtain free samples in order to cover new products on day 1. They act, most of the time, like 3rd party PR agents for the big two (AMD/nVIDIA). They quote the PR material, never using critical thinking skills to question any information they receive, and then publish their articles based on what AMD or nVIDIA have stated. Its exactly a mirror image of our current Political reality. Where a "journalist", from the NYT, will ask a spokesperson from the Pentagon "Does the US use cluster bombs?" and if the spokesperson answers "No" then they'll simply publish an article which states "The United States of America does not use cluster bombs". Of course, anyone walking throughout Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria will tell you that this is patently false. The use of cluster bombs is illegal under international law as well. That's why the Pentagon won't self incriminate itself. For this reason we have, what I term to be, real journalists... such as Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill (to name a few) who actually do the investigative work required in order to expose these lies.

We have the same thing, admittedly on a smaller scale, happening in the tech industry. I've been around for a long time... I was there when toms hardware and Anandtech opened up shop. I remember how tech journalism used to be far more indepth and took the claims from companies with a grain of salt... relying on their own investigative and research capabilities. I suppose that this became less profitable over time. In order to gain access, you have to play nice.

A prime example of this is how AMD is denying review samples to publications which didn't play nice. If you don't show the products, of either of the two big companies in a good light, you lose access. A loss of access means a loss of revenue for the tech publications.

Who's fault is this? Schills. Tech publications who didn't do research began to spread and schilled for access. This caused a loss of business to the publications who did not schill. It created an incentive model built around schilling.
 
I, personally, modeled the way I approached this whole issue to the way Glenn Greenwald approached the whole NSA issue. I figure that, in the end, the truth will be known. Like people hate on Glenn, people hate on me. That's fine though, they just don't realize that they'll gain, as consumers, in the end.

Now where does the hate come from? It comes from Partisanship. Team Red vs Team Green. People throwing insults at one another, dividing the consumer base into two camps, rather than realizing they're both being played. Ask a Kepler user how he/she feels playing GameWorks titles? I'm certain you'll hear a lot of negativity. Some folks dished out over 1K for Graphic cards (Titan Black comes to mind) which, a generation after, struggles to play many of the new GameWorks titles, lacks proper driver support as well. I mean you'll be surprised at the amount of GTX 680 users who get bluescreens nowadays.
 
The market is set, in such a way, that we're mere consumers. Expected to keep gobbling up new Graphic cards, each generation, for bragging rights. While some folks can afford this, after 2008, it has become quite hard to keep up with the new launches.

The PR, from both companies, has become incredibly hostile. Each side is throwing insults at the other. The partisan fans, of each, quote those arguments rather than doing their own research (though admittedly, it shouldn't be up to the consumer to do all of this research if we have a Tech Press in place).

I don't like any of this. I yearn for the days of Anand and Thomas Pabst. The days when tech journalists caught the ATi Radeon 8500 bilinear filtering cheat or the nVIDIA GeForceFX driver compiler which circumvented Pixel Shader 2.0 operations. At least, back then, I could trust the Tech press. Nowadays... I trust very few folks.
 
I've been following Linus, for example, every since he started over at NCIX (where I purchase most of my gear). I thoroughly enjoyed his earlier work at NCIX. I used to wait for a new video, start it up, and watch it as I ate pizza and played video games. I like the guy. And I hope he keeps doing what he does. I'd like to see him covering this stuff more closely and asking the tough questions. I think he's got the talent to get it done.
 
I've rambled enough. Time to get back to drinking Cocal Cola and eating some fine Moroccan foods.
 
ttyl bro and take care.
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post Sep 8 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Sep 8 2015, 02:09 AM)
drool.gif The Nano's fan makes me think the case has an intake on the front. laugh.gif
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It did, Nano's fan is at top.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Sep 8 2015, 09:40 AM)
Dang, but this new case from DAN is smaller i think. Need to use riser for the GPU though.

edit: just notice that rig also use riser for the Nano.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Yes but most tech reviewer generate revenue from web traffics and sponsorship/ads especially popular site. One shit article about that specific company, you could lose your revenue.

From forumer Mahigan about tech journalist nowadays,
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Anandtech is not how it used to be after Anand himself left..and yes everything nowadays is just about the bench scores rather than analysis and indepth review

Even toms isnt my cup of tea..guess best of media is just ripping toms for the ads
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post Sep 8 2015, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Sep 8 2015, 09:40 AM)
Dang, but this new case from DAN is smaller i think. Need to use riser for the GPU though.

edit: just notice that rig also use riser for the Nano.

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dat case made me drool.gif
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post Sep 8 2015, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Sep 8 2015, 04:11 PM)
dat case made me drool.gif
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And the price will make you feel UGHHHHHH cry.gif
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post Sep 8 2015, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Sep 8 2015, 04:13 PM)
And the price will make you feel UGHHHHHH  cry.gif
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kinda expected sweat.gif
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Power Devil 13 R390X - Hybrid WC + Air

Another monster by powercolor.....this co. really comes out alot of monster lately drool.gif
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 7 2015, 09:54 PM)
Why is people skipping your comment?

Reviewers shouldn't be bias no matter what. It will only mislead people if that reviewer is bias. Moreover if you are a very famous reviewer u must be very professional and be responsible to what u said and done to help people out.
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why ppl skip" coz my comment have no flang for a word or sense of tech review word that up to their level of reply/comment OR maybe my comment make no sense.. as i usually reply in tired or psst off mode. biggrin.gif but i like to comment on here release stress and i put emotion smile face i feel happy smile.gif

true! reviewer should not be biased' but reviewer is human and they have bill to pay and every human have their way of thinking an agenda.. no man are made equal and in theory we think we all are.. but nop...e
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Sep 8 2015, 05:22 PM)
Power Devil 13 R390X - Hybrid WC + Air

Another monster by powercolor.....this co. really comes out alot of monster lately drool.gif
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SAI come on dude.. that is just ugly... but beauty eye of beholder..
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Sep 8 2015, 09:15 PM)
SAI come on dude.. that is just ugly...  but beauty eye of beholder..
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i say monster, nvr say its beauty tongue.gif
but even under hybrid cooling, only the temp is attractive.
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post Sep 8 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Sep 8 2015, 05:22 PM)
Power Devil 13 R390X - Hybrid WC + Air

Another monster by powercolor.....this co. really comes out alot of monster lately drool.gif
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Save money and sell your 290 Tri-X,then buy that card. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Sep 8 2015, 10:17 PM)
Save money and sell your 290 Tri-X,then buy that card. tongue.gif
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Chasing gc is past my time. now even no time to complete every new game i bought.
i juz enjoy reading review and benchie no. biggrin.gif
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AMD fans, did u guys join 16th Sept event? bring ur new nano out..

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