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post Aug 16 2016, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Aug 16 2016, 12:47 PM)
If your kitchen tap is mounted on the wall, then u need to install like this

Our shop is in kepong, if u are using waze just search builders hardware. Not allowed to post link here as per LYN rules

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hi, thanks, how much is this set?
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post Aug 16 2016, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 11:44 AM)
I doubt that can remove dissolved heavy metal.
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In the brochure it states that one of the media filter, specifically ZEOLITE is used to remove suspended solids, soluble heavy metals and soluble ammonium.

But I am not sure how efficient it is.
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 10:42 AM)
Pesticides, eSpring should be able to remove.

It's heavy metal that would be a problem.

As for re-mineralization, I think you can only put back a limited type of mineral back into RO water.
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for really high filtration requirement, choose between heavy metal intake vs lack of minerals, what would u go for?

remineralization is unneccessarily good for health as those could either overdosed or additional dose to your body needs.
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 16 2016, 03:14 PM)
for really high filtration requirement, choose between heavy metal intake vs lack of minerals, what would u go for?

remineralization is unneccessarily good for health as those could either overdosed or additional dose to your body needs.
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there is another consideration.

With eSpring, you don't have to boil the water. And there is a meter to tell you when to change the cartridge

With membrane, you have to keep them clean or they become a hot bed for micro-organism.




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post Aug 16 2016, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Terbulance @ Aug 16 2016, 01:35 PM)
In the brochure it states that one of the media filter, specifically ZEOLITE is used to remove suspended solids, soluble heavy metals and soluble ammonium.

But I am not sure how efficient it is.
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don't think that one will work.

AFAIK, you need to use distillation, RO and ion exchange.

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post Aug 16 2016, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 03:16 PM)
there is another consideration.

With eSpring, you don't have to boil the water. And there is a meter to tell you when to change the cartridge

With membrane, you have to keep them clean or they become a hot bed for micro-organism.
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because UV will kill it, you can install UV after RO as well.

ok, now lets talk about price.

how much for eSpring and maintenance cost in terms of filters cost L/year?

anyone care to suggest a cheap RO for comparison? Pretty cheap membrane as i know.
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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 16 2016, 03:22 PM)
because UV will kill it, you can install UV after RO as well.

ok, now lets talk about price.

how much for eSpring and maintenance cost in terms of filters cost L/year?

anyone care to suggest a cheap RO for comparison? Pretty cheap membrane as i know.
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I don't want anything too complicated or bulky.

I think eSpring filter is about RM 500 - 600 and filters 10,000 liters. Correct me if I am wrong.

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post Aug 21 2016, 02:48 AM

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need opinion here.. as for place that are well known for possible water supply can be contaminated is high like Pahang which kind of filter system is the best? RO?

Kindly give opinion with facts..

Hope you guys can enlighten me..
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post Aug 22 2016, 09:14 AM

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Hi, I looking for water purifier for my kitchen.
I prefer budget below RM900, dont need use power plug.
the filter maintenance was not very expensive. change around 1 year once.
If can the water can direct drink or need boil again?
Thank you
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post Aug 22 2016, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 22 2016, 09:14 AM)
Hi, I looking for water purifier for my kitchen.
I prefer budget below RM900, dont need use power plug.
the filter maintenance was not very expensive. change around 1 year once.
If can the water can direct drink or need boil again?
Thank you
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Got this from SYABAS website smile.gif
Q 12 - Is the treated water supplied by SYABAS clean and safe to drink directly from tap?
A - Yes. The quality of water supplied to the consumers is safe for consumption direct from the tap as the water quality is constantly monitored to ensure it is always well within the Quality Assurance Programme (QAP) and National Standard for Drinking Water Quality (NSDWQ) under the Ministry of Health and as being well within the requirements of the Mandatory Level of Service (MLS) under the Concession Agreement. However, consumers must periodically check their home internal plumbing and clean the water tank, if necessary. The presence of galvanized iron pipes in the home plumbing system and metal storage tanks normally will cause water to be yellowish/ brownish.
http://www.syabas.com.my/consumer/frequent...stions-faqs#q12


The more accurate method in knowing which type of filter is suitable for us is to first understand what is in our water and what can be used to remove the contaminants so that it is healthy for us to drink. However, different area will have different contamination issues and consumers will definitely would not waste $$ to labtest their water, i done mine and cost me close to RM 2k from a certified lab.

So, as we dont know what is in the water, the best is to get the BEST filter smile.gif To me, my criteria minimum must be 0.2 micron for drinking water as 0.2 micron is able to filter harmful bacteria such as E.Coli. Low micron alone is not sufficient, you need to mix with high quality carbon filters as well. There are many types of carbon filters, granular, powdered, carbon block, carb fibre block and etc. Even RO with 0.0001 micron is not effective in removing contaminants such as chlorine, that is why RO filters will have carbon filters as well in the system.

You can get a basic ceramic filter that cost RM 90-100 and also direct drink from it, it wont cause any problem such as diarrhea but the small dosage of contaminants will build up over time in our body and then later will affect our health. Even SYABAS claim their water is suitable for drinking straight from the tap without water filter but how many of us dare to drink it?

I notice many salesperson push their products based on customers budget, RM 600 filter also can drink direct, RM 1000 or RM 2000 also can drink direct then why buy expensive filter and not just the cheaper one? Since this is for direct consumption and for our family health, i suggest invest a better and reliable one, many people can afford smart phones RM 2k+ definitely they can afford to get a reliable drinking water system for their family smile.gif

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Aug 22 2016, 03:55 PM)
Got this from SYABAS website smile.gif
Q 12 - Is the treated water supplied by SYABAS clean and safe to drink directly from tap?
A - Yes. The quality of water supplied to the consumers is safe for consumption direct from the tap as the water quality is constantly monitored to ensure it is always well within the Quality Assurance Programme (QAP) and National Standard for Drinking Water Quality (NSDWQ) under the Ministry of Health and as being well within the requirements of the Mandatory Level of Service (MLS) under the Concession Agreement. However, consumers must periodically check their home internal plumbing and clean the water tank, if necessary. The presence of galvanized iron pipes in the home plumbing system and metal storage tanks normally will cause water to be yellowish/ brownish.
http://www.syabas.com.my/consumer/frequent...stions-faqs#q12
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any water purifier below RM900?
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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 22 2016, 09:14 AM)
Hi, I looking for water purifier for my kitchen.
I prefer budget below RM900, dont need use power plug.
the filter maintenance was not very expensive. change around 1 year once.
If can the water can direct drink or need boil again?
Thank you
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When choosing water filter system, you should concern about the technology used and the quality of it. Most of the time we only buy once or twice water filter system in our life, so price shouldn't be the main concern.
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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 22 2016, 04:00 PM)
any water purifier below RM900?
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Already PM you the details smile.gif
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post Aug 22 2016, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Aug 22 2016, 04:11 PM)
When choosing water filter system, you should concern about the technology used and the quality of it. Most of the time we only buy once or twice water filter system in our life, so price shouldn't be the main concern.
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cos is rent house. so after that will not using anymore. prefer to be free maintenance for 1 to 2 years and easy installation. the kitchen also have limited access to power plug. so need find those without power.
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post Aug 22 2016, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Aug 22 2016, 04:11 PM)
When choosing water filter system, you should concern about the technology used and the quality of it. Most of the time we only buy once or twice water filter system in our life, so price shouldn't be the main concern.
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I have used more than 6 types of water filters smile.gif Even used ceramic filters before. The more we sell, the more we learn and we eventually change and change and change now i believe this is the best already smile.gif

Family health is the most important thing. I believe many members also bought those gimmick or miracle water filters before and later find them useless and throw away smile.gif I have many customers converted to Aquaphor and heard lots of stories. I also bought those miracle filters hoping to cure my eczema but they didnt work

As per photo, i m using two water filters + an external water dispenser now for testing, this is like my lab already hahaha

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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 22 2016, 04:18 PM)
cos is rent house. so after that will not using anymore. prefer to be free maintenance for 1 to 2 years and easy installation. the kitchen also have limited access to power plug. so need find those without power.
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Oh, u can still remove it when u r moving new house. Just a suggestion biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Aug 22 2016, 04:19 PM)
I have used more than 6 types of water filters smile.gif Even used ceramic filters before. The more we sell, the more we learn and we eventually change and change and change now i believe this is the best already smile.gif

Family health is the most important thing. I believe many members also bought those gimmick or miracle water filters before and later find them useless and throw away smile.gif I have many customers converted to Aquaphor and heard lots of stories. I also bought those miracle filters hoping to cure my eczema but they didnt work

As per photo, i m using two water filters + an external water dispenser now for testing, this is like my lab already hahaha
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So how is your eczema already? I also have this problem last time.
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post Aug 23 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Aug 23 2016, 01:06 AM)
So how is your eczema already? I also have this problem last time.
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cant cure ... however the acid water from the Rubine machine reduce itchiness only.

Recently i m using this lotion + lip balm and i find it very good. If hand or leg crack just apply the lip balm, will heal within 1 - 2 days. The Lip Balm is so far the best i have used, seriously 1 day can c result as per what they claim in the website

http://www.dermaltherapy.com.au/products/b...-dry-skin-cream


This brand only available in Health Lane or Big Pharmacy.

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QUOTE(xngjn @ Aug 22 2016, 04:18 PM)
cos is rent house. so after that will not using anymore. prefer to be free maintenance for 1 to 2 years and easy installation. the kitchen also have limited access to power plug. so need find those without power.
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I have customers with this situation also, they got both my table top & under sink installation kit for aquaphor. Temporary install as table top then later move in to new house only install as under sink. Table top installation can be done without hacking or drilling, just install with our hands can d, no nd any tools

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