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post Oct 19 2016, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(CypherHackz @ Oct 19 2016, 06:14 PM)
This weekend you are not at shop? KLCC which lot number?
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Here is our booth location in Homedec.

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post Oct 19 2016, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Oct 19 2016, 11:02 PM)
LOL, did i violate any rules here?
The reason i censored the brands is i don't want to flame any brands here. The model row i also removed, that's why you can see the number of filters i put 3 to 6, each model have different filter count. This is just comparison of technology between major brands that known most by public.
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(CypherHackz @ Oct 20 2016, 06:42 AM)
Zheilwane, if I want to install Aquaphor under kitchen sink, and the water path to the water dispenser travel accross under the kitchen cabinet, do I need to inform my kitchen cabinet contractor to make the water path hole?

Or your contractor can do it for me nicely and tidy? Because I dont want the water tube got stuck when I close a drawer or see it hanging from one cabinet to one cabinet when open the cabinet door.
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My plumber can do it but if you kitchen carpenter can prepare the hole that would b better smile.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Oct 20 2016, 11:55 AM)
I see, as long no wrong doing just let them be biggrin.gif
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True, just let it be smile.gif If you check my other threads, i got attack by competitors as well ahhah. Customers are not blind, they will know what is best for them and who to buy from is the best smile.gif Unfortunately for you, there are too many amway seller here and i bliv most of them wanna get rid of each other here.

For those who are looking for Drinking Water filters, there are many brands in Homedec Exhibition, so you can compare and get more info, We are exhibiting Aquaphor with AquaSolar in Hall 4, booth 306. Anything u wanna know or see, will show u as we have cut out units of our filter to show customers the quality of our product smile.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(afad @ Oct 20 2016, 11:30 PM)
Can pm the detail for aquaphor eco?
And any thoughts on bioaura water filter because i dont see any discussion abt it here..quite interested with it also
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what details you need? If you need spec can check here
www.aquaphor.com.my

If you wan best price, do drop by during homedec smile.gif

Bioaura? Just google it, got several post in FB and other website
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post Oct 21 2016, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Oct 21 2016, 11:44 AM)
They are following Diamond foot steps into "ENERGY" water, but if u recall few years back, Diamond already changed their slogan from "ENERGY" water to MINERAL water because was sued to mislead consumers. So as for those fancy fancy technology like alkaline or ozone water claim to have benefits for your health which was never have scientific prove.

Water filter purpose is to remove the contaminants.
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100% agree smile.gif Why we spend so much money invest on water filters? We wan to drink clean water. But if u buy gimmick water like alkaline water, is your water really clean? They use the gimmick to cover up the water quality, when u hear how amazing their filters are, you eventually neglect or overlook, is the filter really able to provide clean water? ask the alkaline filter salesperson and the other gimmick water such as breaking water molecules for easy absorption, energy water, hydrogen water and etc etc there are too many of them.

I read the some of the description on the cartridge for some brands, they say can increase mineral, can increase oxygen, balance Ph level and etc etc very impressive but when i cut the cartridge i see only granular carbon inside.... ask the filter salesperson show you what is really inside their filter rather blindly believe what is told

I will be in homedec KLCC this week, anything you wanna see and compare, it is all cut open for you to inspect smile.gif Just clean water no gimmicks

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post Oct 23 2016, 08:08 AM

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Do drop by our booth as well to compare our AQUAPHOR vs other brands smile.gif Definitely value for money and lowest price

Here is our booth location in Homedec.

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post Oct 24 2016, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(yusiang @ Oct 23 2016, 07:36 PM)
My Perfect Steel(model 0842) filter suddenly got clogged today, have been using for 6 years but never service before. Any idea how can i fix it? The original installer already quit the business.

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Would be glad to hear your professional advice.
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you can call perfect steel or contact us 0362572412 to arrange sand replacement and servicing. usually 4 years once
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post Oct 24 2016, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(speedhunter @ Oct 23 2016, 11:20 AM)
Those using water filter, do you install on direct pipe or from the tank?
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Usually direct pipe. Optional you can also make it from direct and tank, if no water from syabas then switch to tank
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post Oct 24 2016, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(n0thing @ Oct 23 2016, 11:40 AM)
i was wondering, can you get a mixer tap and then use it for filtered water?
instead of hot and cold, you get normal tap and filtered water.
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Not recommended but another forumer PJusa installed it that way.
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post Oct 25 2016, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(xjia @ Oct 25 2016, 08:08 AM)
Bro, can pm me the best price for indoor filter system- Aquaphor etc, no more filter system for part 2 klcc this coming weekend ?
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no more filter in part 2.
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post Oct 25 2016, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(moneyworks @ Oct 25 2016, 10:19 AM)
Hi all Sifu, I am renovating my new house (will start work next month). Have a few questions hope to get help here.
1. I saw from this thread that it's possible to split the output from indoor water filter (POU). 1 for washing food, 1 for water dispenser. That way, we do not need to install 2nd POU. I plan to put one output at my wet kitchen and one output at my dry kitchen, but they are about 12 feet apart. I can't put the COU "in between" so it's either close to the wet kitchen or dry kitchen so one output pipe will be around 12 feet long. Will it cause an issue? (eg. low water pressure due to long pipe)? Any ideas are appreciated.
2. I plan to install POE as well at my new house. I am currently using Nesh membrane type of POE at my old house, has been 7 years without service, so far so good. The only problem is need to back flush very often now or else the water pressure in my house (direct) will be low. In another thread I read that those sand type of filter is not so good as the sand might enter into the pipe and clog it eventually. Is it true? I personally have no preference, but due to budget constrain, I will not invest heavily on POE (budget RM1K). Don't see much discussion on POE here except perfect steel (which is over my budget). Any recommendation? Please correct me if my assumption is wrong that I should invest in POU more than POE.
3. This is related to water storage tank. I have a concrete slab (extended kitchen area) at the back of my new house which I plan to install an additional water storage tank (king kong). Some people suggest to use the additional tank for ground floor only (since it's place on the top of the ground floor kitchen, not on the roof). But I think we should make it as extension of the existing water tank and make use of it fully. I am thinking
a) to split water inflow from main (after the POE) to the new tank and to existing house pipe. Then some how pump the water from the new tank to the existing tank, the question is how to control the inflow, when to start and when to stop? How will it works automatically?
b) flow water from the main tank to the new tank, then pump the water back to the piping system back to the entire house. This is less preferred as I read from forum that the water pressure will cause the existing pipe to leak (that will be a headache).
c) any other ways that I am not able to think of

Appreciate your valuable feedback all sifu here.
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1) As long as you can hide in under your cabinet and it could be easily removed or replaced then is OK.
Refer to photo as per my customer house using Aquaphor Crystal Eco (hoever this is estimated 9ft distance)

2) Perfect Steel Fibre sand filter will be within your budget

3) If current tank is sufficient big, dont waste money for the extra tank

a) Yes, it is fully automatic, when there is water movement, pump will start
b) confusing, i guess the best is to get a plumber to look at the side and advise accordingly, if you think he is not experience enough, i can recommend my plumber.

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post Oct 26 2016, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Oct 25 2016, 06:38 PM)
I am looking for an indoor water filter,current old one going to replace adi...
Ani best budget one to recommend?
Under rm1000 maybe,my mom looking for d cosway one which cost around rm700...
Is dis model ok?
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To know good or not, just compare the media used in the filter and compare with brands like Aquaphor and Espring.

1st Question, what filtration system are they using to remove bacteria? Read back the this thread you will actually know more about good water filter Vs gimmick water smile.gif

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post Oct 26 2016, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(afad @ Oct 26 2016, 07:36 PM)
I have installed Aquaphor Crystal Eco yesterday. Bought at klcc homedec, from zheilwane..great guy really helpfull in explaining to noob like me
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post Oct 29 2016, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Mcrae @ Oct 26 2016, 10:46 PM)
Purchased Aquaphor Crystal Eco two weeks ago from Zheilwane at his shop.

A very friendly guy who is willing spare some time to serve and explain to me in very details although he is busy that time. He did not even try to hard sell his product but instead he just let me see and compare a few different filters and specifications and then let me to judge and decide by myself which is better.

So far i have been drinking for 2 weeks, very satisfied with this Crystal Eco. No metal taste at all. That's my main priority not to taste that metal feel taste. Somemore, its easier to drink as in not so difficult to swallow the water before compared to my previous normal filter.

A recommended water filter with affordable price.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks smile.gif I really suggest people who are still using basic filters to upgrade their water filters as you dont know what you are drinking. For your case you can still taste the metal smell after your basic filter, hence making you upgrade your filter to aquaphor. However, there are some contaminants that we cant see or smell and we are still drinking it without knowing it until 5 or 10 or 15 years down the road only we will see the side effects.

Malaysia water is so dirty and we should really take good care of our health and the first thing to start is to drink clean water from a good water filter.

Recent water pollution news in malaysia :

Malaysia's Sungai Buah River has become polluted due to a toxic solvent that has been dumped from an unknown source on its banks, off the Elite Highway

http://www.ibtimes.sg/malaysia-toxic-solve...-consumers-4198

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post Nov 9 2016, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(szb @ Nov 9 2016, 03:06 PM)
anyone using Panasonic TK-AS45? i'm planning to buy one, looking for a review

https://direct.panasonic.com.my/Products.as.../3183?catId=106
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Any reason you are looking for alkaline water? TO be neutral, i suggest you google on pros and cons on alkaline water before purchasing. 1 think is for sure, the machine is so small, it has limited space to install filters, hence most alkaline machine will only provide 1 cartridge filter. Checked your link, it seems that the filter has granular carbon, carbon block and membrane which is good but all 3 media in 1 cartridge = every media is very little in quantity and contaminant reduction rate wont be high.

Unless u have some medical reason and wanna give alkaline water a try, if not i wont recommend alkaline water. As mentioned, i got eczema and i tried alkaline water for 6 months but no sign of improvement

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QUOTE(szb @ Nov 9 2016, 04:30 PM)
alkaline water is not a must for me. i'm looking for a water filter that i can drink the water without boiling it. and i like panasonic brand, a salesgirl introduced this product to me as the cheapest panasonic water filter that provide drinkable water...
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Here is my review,
The filter is using single cartridge design and has all these in just one cartridge
"Non-woven Fabric, Granular Activated Carbon, Ceramic, Powdered Activated Carbon,Hollow Fiber Membrane"

1) Active charcoal carbon filters are most effective at removing chlorine, sediment, volatile organic compounds (VOCs), taste and odor from water.

Carbon generally has 3 types, Granular Carbon, Powdered Carbon and Carbon Block
In general, carbon block filters are more effective at removing a larger number of contaminants, based upon the increased surface area of carbon
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_filtering


The length of time in which the contaminant is in contact with the activated carbon filter also influences the adsorption process – the longer the length of contact, the greater the number of contaminants that will be removed

Source : http://www.waterprofessionals.com/learning...carbon-filters/

Review : Since the filter is using Granular and Powdered Carbon only (not Carbon Block) and very little amount of carbon in the cartridge (total 5 different filter media used in just one small cartridge), hence wont be very effective in removing higher percentage of contaminants as the duration in contact with carbon is too short

We cannot rely 100% on NSF only, a basic filter like Culligan costing RM 300+- already can satisfy NSF standard 42 and 53 but having NSF is a good start.

Standard 42 :
SF/ANSI 42 establishes the minimum requirements for the certification of POU/POE filtration systems designed to reduce specific aesthetic or non-health-related contaminants (chlorine, taste, odor and particulates)

Standard 53 :
This standard establishes the minimum requirements for the certification of POU/POE filtration systems designed to reduce specific health-related contaminants, such as Cryptosporidium, lead, volatile organic chemicals (VOCs) and asbestos

Souce : https://www.nsf.org/newsroom_pdf/water_42_53_insert.pdf

So, NSF standards only sets the minimum requirements, that is why a basic carbon block system like culligan can already pass NSF. Compare the info in wikipedia and also the standards 42 and 53 as given above, it explains that carbon filter is capable of filtering contaminants as per the NSF standards.
There are still many things not covered by these two standards such as BACTERIA, that is why we cannot solely rely on NSF only but having NSF is a good start.

"Active charcoal carbon filters are most effective at removing chlorine, sediment, volatile organic compounds (VOCs), taste and odor from water."
source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_filtering

Activated carbon itself appears in the EPA list as a preferred treatment only for mercury, but carbon block filters can also be engineered to remove lead and asbestos
source : http://www.purewaterproducts.com/articles/carbon

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QUOTE(lipfung @ Nov 10 2016, 12:21 PM)
Need a water dispenser. Any recommendation? Preferably with hot and cold function.
Northern region.

Considered Coway, but its RO water.
How about Cuckoo ? Mild-Alkaline water.
Does Aquaphor has a dispenser? As the website is down, couldn't get much information.
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website is working, www.aquaphor.com.my

1) Cuckoo - mild alkaline with average pH level 7.6 - 7.8. Actually our syabas water originally is already mild alkaline as per Aquaphor Lab test report is 7.6. As our tap water contains mineral, it will be mild alkaline while RO water without mineral is mild acidic with pH 6.5. So, any filter except RO will produce mild alkaline water.

2) Website is working www.aquaphor.com.my
or more info https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4orAkJ_n8...TNCcmFpX2M/view


3) Aquaphor does not manufacture water dispenser but we do have a combo for water dispenser. With our setup, you are able to have filter tap for convenience of getting water for cooking and also dispenser for drinking, 2 outlets with 1 filter (Aquaphor Crystal Eco)
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QUOTE(lipfung @ Nov 11 2016, 11:03 AM)
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Thanks for the info.
I'm at Penang, its PBA, not Syabas, not sure the pH level here  biggrin.gif
Aquaphor dispenser, do we have to clean it our self ? The filter, do we have to change it our self as well? 
My place has only single basin, can it be installed ? Is it easily available in Penang, the filters and installation team ?
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Yup, i have installer in penang as well, if interested jus PM me your address and contact details for me to check with my installer. As long as the water is no RO, it is mild alkaline already
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 11 2016, 11:44 AM)
Malaysia drinking water quality conformed to WHO guidelines. Chlorine is added to disinfect the bacteria in the water already. The only thing we can't guarantee is the last mile contamination. But as long as chlorine remain in the water from the water treatment to our kitchen sink tap, the water is safe for consumption. If still paranoid about the bacteria, i would suggest adding UV filter such as this:
6w-12w:家用直饮机纯水机净水机过流式uv紫外线杀菌消毒过滤器 http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?ut_sk=1.U...&id=16475429018
Can buy from Taobao in less than RM100 including international shipping.
Now you can have the cheapest certified NSF standard 42 & 53 and uncertified NSF standard 55 (for UV) POU water filter  rclxms.gif Poor man version of Amway eSpring  brows.gif
Zheilwane, bring in some UV filters la, combine this UV to your aquaphor, you can compete better with those high end POU with UV.
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you are right, not much bacteria left in water but if a water filter is able to filter bacteria and also cheap, no harm getting it smile.gif

UV light got its problem also, poor quality one might not last 1 year, efficiency also drop overtime, it does not last forever, i remember reading online was 1 year. Light bulb spoil and etc etc

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