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post Sep 30 2016, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 30 2016, 11:41 AM)
u are saying Aquaphor don't need outdoor filter and even yellowish tap water won't clog it's filters?

then it must have a backwash function, yes?

i am looking for indoor filter with backwash function that can handle the Syabas (shitty water), anyone know of any model that can do that please share.
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Aquaphor indoor filters do not have backwash function, the reason why it cant tahan because the first filter is a 5 micron carbon block filter (carbon block has high surface area to trap dirt). There are many filters using 0.2 - 0.8 micron as the first filter, if that is the case confirm easily gets clogged without an outdoor filter. Moreover the chances of Aquaphor water filter getting clogged is very slim with their patented technology AQUALEN

AQUALENS provides:

high speed removal of impurities
effective removal of heavy metals from water of any hardness
improved anti-bacterial qualities (due to activated silver)
no "channeling" effect, so no water bypasses the filter (100% filtration)
http://old.aquaphor.com/aqualen

Clogging is not covered under warranty because it is not manufacturing defect, it shows that your water is too dirty. However, if requested we could also give a 1 year warranty against clogging, if clog then you need to get a ceramic pre-filter and we will replace the clogged cartridge for FREE. Upto date, nobody claim it from us, looking at exsakai's water quality and yet the filter is still performing well, i am now even confident that Aquaphor is suitable for areas with very poor water quality.

TO : lowya & xenith
If you are looking for a filter that can handle poor water quality without an outdoor filter, i would suggest Aquaphor Crystal Eco and not RO system. RO filters are even more sensitive and ezier to get clogged. I can provide you with 1 year warranty as well but if it gets clogged, you need to add a ceramic filter. If you do not like to have a ceramic filter, i can suggest you another alternative, PM me if interested.

An Outdoor filter is required to protect our internal house piping, taps and fittings from clogging and prolong the life of the taps cartridge and toilet bowl flushing mechanism.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 1 2016, 08:17 AM
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post Sep 30 2016, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 30 2016, 06:21 PM)
It depend on area, and water quality. My mom house use sand filter, the amway uv filter clog every 6 months, even change to another brand of sand filter is the same. After change to membrane problem solve. My USJ house i change the 3M External after >1 year, 16-18m depending my mood. I change because is > 1year, not because it clog. My indoor 3M didn't clog after 1 year change because is > 1 year too.
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If 6 months clog once, then yearly maintenance gonna cost more than RM 1k, unless you manually clean the filter to unclog it
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post Oct 1 2016, 08:23 AM

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You can pull out the cartridge and clean the PP (white area) to unclog it. However, cleaning it like tat does not reset the chip (indicator), could damage the PP and allow contaminants to flow through it. So, most users just change the cartridge instead of cleaning it
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post Oct 1 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 1 2016, 10:40 AM)
by membran do you mean indoor filter? what type of membran? RO?
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weikee meant those outdoor UF membrane
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post Oct 1 2016, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 1 2016, 01:24 PM)
So, what's the outcome of Amway eSpring vs Aquaphor Crystal Eco challenge ? Which water filter emerged as winner?
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He didnt come, may be he is too busy. Actually the intention of me inviting D_Goh is not to prove which is better, i just wanna show Aquaphor is fit to be called premium water quality and affordable (50% cheaper) which he does not agree.I wouldnt dare to say Aquaphor is better but definitely it is fit to be called a good filter as well

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post Oct 1 2016, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Oct 1 2016, 08:35 PM)
who is selling aquaphor. pm me
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Pmed already smile.gif

If need info can also check www.aquaphor.com.my

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post Oct 2 2016, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Oct 2 2016, 01:44 AM)
What?! Did he even give a ring?
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Nope. Dont give him pressure d, he might be too busy traveling around meeting customers, last login today 1am . . must be a very busy day for him
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post Oct 4 2016, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(the s.crib @ Oct 4 2016, 02:07 PM)
Im looking for a cheap undermount water filter in either Selangor or KL. Really cheap ones like RM100 or RM200.

Anyone has idea?
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Ceramic filter with plastic housing + tap @ RM 200 smile.gif
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post Oct 4 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 4 2016, 11:43 AM)
Questions regarding your Aquaphor Crystal Eco...

1. what technology it has that prevents clogging without outdoor filters?

2. without outdoor filter you can guarantee by 1-to-1 replacement that no clogging will occurs?

3. may i have the TDS readings (before and after)? users also contribute please.

4. I was told that initial setup is RM1699, replacement filter is RM450, both with 8000L capacity, what contributes to the vast different between initial and replacement cost?
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1. First cartridge is 5 micron Carbon Block + Aquaplen that is why it prevents the 0.1 micron membrane from clogging. Most brands first filter is 0.2 - 0.8 that is why they got clogged fast.

AQUALENS provides:

high speed removal of impurities
effective removal of heavy metals from water of any hardness
improved anti-bacterial qualities (due to activated silver)
no "channeling" effect, so no water bypasses the filter (100% filtration)
http://old.aquaphor.com/aqualen

2. Tested many areas such as exsakai. I can let u try as well, if clog, we will just replace the clogged filters free.

3. Salesman can fake the figures but i snap photo as supporting smile.gif On average tested is 60 - 70.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=7494428

4, There are many filters RM 3 - 4k but replacement RM 500-600, even wider difference. All filter companies only make more profit for new filters, replacement margin is low to make them affordable. R & D, running cost, production and etc etc all accounted as cost of brand new filter.

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post Oct 5 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(tuahayam @ Oct 5 2016, 11:52 AM)
I want to ask who sell 3M catridge.. I want to buy AP Easy Complete catridge.. how much?
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many online website can get

xammax.my/3m-replacement-cartridge-c-complete.html

or

http://www.lazada.com.my/3m-water-filter-c...lte-745315.html


I only have DWS80/90, AP910r and AP902 for clearance

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post Oct 6 2016, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 6 2016, 10:58 AM)
this is for those want super clean RO water without installing any water filter...

SeaMaster selld 6 x 2.7L RO water bottle for RM6 only, for those who don't mind self collect. Cheras or Balakong i think.

That works out to be only RM0.37/L, i doubt can get that rate if use own RO water filter.

beats the hassle of installing any filters, can ask for delivery i think.

So if your filter can't get below RM0.3/L, guess it's not really worth it.
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Wow that must be some direct factory price smile.gif As most small bottle water 600ml already cost RM 1.

Just for comparison, assuming average usage 2500L per year (4 ppl usage)

Crystal Eco Drinking water filter cost per L
Replacement cartridge RM 450 / 2500L = RM 0.18

For high consumption 3000-3500L per year
Cost will be RM 450 / 3500L = RM 0.13

Lets compare total cost for 4 years
Crystal Eco initial cost RM 1699 x 1 year
Replacement cost RM 450 x 3 years
Total = RM 3049

For Bottle water
RM 0.37 x 2500 x 4 years = rm 3700

For normal rate (5.5L tesco water @ RM 4.85) = RM 0.88 per litre
https://eshop.tesco.com.my/groceries/en-GB/...fB0&query=water
RM 0.88 x 2500 x 4 years = RM 8800 .... OMG so big difference...
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post Oct 6 2016, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 6 2016, 06:08 PM)
you forgot to factor in

1. initial purchase cost

2. Outdoor filter cost.

3. clogging cost (1 time clog already not worth it)

Compare 1 year. Lets see.
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May b there are too much calculation and u overlook this smile.gif

Lets compare total cost for 4 years
Crystal Eco initial cost RM 1699 x 1 year
Replacement cost RM 450 x 3 years
Total = RM 3049

For Bottle water
RM 0.37 x 2500 x 4 years = rm 3700

For normal rate (5.5L tesco water @ RM 4.85) = RM 0.88 per litre
https://eshop.tesco.com.my/groceries/en-GB/...fB0&query=water
RM 0.88 x 2500 x 4 years = RM 8800 .... OMG so big difference...
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QUOTE(flora_chan @ Oct 7 2016, 10:58 AM)
Anyone use NESH? Was thinking to get one for my new house.
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My suggestion, check what filter media they are giving and compare with other brands then u will be able to decide better.

This discussion thread has actually all the info you need but need to spend some quality time reading through the pages smile.gif Alternatively, if you do not have the time, u can always drop by our shop for more info on water filter smile.gif

This is a very simple and basic test you can do when choosing filter


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post Oct 7 2016, 02:02 PM

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herm.... very suspicious or may be i think too much smile.gif


Initial post
QUOTE(flora_chan @ Oct 7 2016, 10:58 AM)
Anyone use NESH? Was thinking to get one for my new house.
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QUOTE(flora_chan @ Oct 7 2016, 10:58 AM)
My house had been using NESH for 6 years. The outcome is good.
Their service is good.
When our filter need to service, just contact them or they will call you annually.
Their outdoor filter can filter off 0.01 micron.
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post Oct 8 2016, 11:39 AM

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Herm... i notice most bottle water taste OK except for 1 brand it has like coconut taste, i bliv u guys know which brand. Dont wanna mention NAMES here, might get into trouble hahaha

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post Oct 8 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Goge @ Oct 8 2016, 02:48 PM)
Hi Zheilwane, i am interested in 3M AP902 and Aquaphor crystal eco for indoor and outdoor. Please pm me the best price. Besides, i have a few questions to consult u:
1. Is AP902 suitable for landed house? i want to save space so trying not to go for those big sand filter.
2. For indoor water filter installation, would it be possible to drill a hole on concrete top (3.5 inches include tiles) for the water filter tap without breakage?
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Will PM you the details. Drilling concrete top, granite, quartz and etc also no problem smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2016, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(flora_chan @ Oct 8 2016, 12:32 PM)
but the website written nsf certified?
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Checked the website, it is certified for fittings only like the elbow, connector and etc not on water quality
http://nesh.com.my/Nesh2014/index.php/en/a...ut-nesh/154-nsf


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post Oct 16 2016, 04:01 PM

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For those who wants to know more about Aquaphor water filter may drop by our booth in Homedec - KLCC (20 - 23 Oct 2016 this week)

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QUOTE(skudaiboy @ Oct 19 2016, 11:55 AM)
Bro Zheilwane,
Any promo prices for Aquaphor products tomorrow?
Can PM me, please?
Thank you.
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Sorry all promo are confidential only for walk in customers. Can either drop by my shop or during exhibition. If you are from oustation, text me your details and i will call you. TQ
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QUOTE(exsakai @ Oct 18 2016, 11:38 PM)
Does amway provide warranty against clogging? May be next time got budget can consider upgrade again in case anything happen to my aquaphor haha.
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Lol, dont worry bro, the Aquaphor can easily last you 10 years smile.gif If you have any issue can directly call me haha



For those who wants to know more can drop by visit use during HOMEDEC this week in KLCC will be exhibiting AquaSolar, Aquaphor and Grundfos Pump smile.gif

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