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 Mobile Number Portability (MNP), Switching mobile no. to other telco

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post Aug 18 2008, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Aug 13 2008, 11:27 PM)
so we can just change provider with same number?
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QUOTE(ivanchuah8939 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:47 AM)
i tink maxis will be lose bcs maxis call rates very high
but mnp release also good bcs it can benefit our people 2 get lower call rates.i tink if maxis no wan the user change 2 another telco.better it reduces the call rates...so can fight with digi. digi is always smarts choice
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Agreed on the first statement, but not on the second statement saying Digi smarter choice. IMO, Digi is just cheaper... That's all.

QUOTE(clsia1001 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:50 AM)
hope mnp will bring more benefits to consumer....but coverage play important role as well...
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Exactly...

QUOTE(uhlaw @ Aug 15 2008, 09:17 AM)
Do we need to change sim card also if we change provider?
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Yes. You have to. It is a must.

QUOTE(dos @ Aug 16 2008, 11:37 AM)
How do you know which service someone is on after mnp? Will they notify us if the active10/FnF etc numbers change?
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Only the telco people oe whoever has access to the database.

Good question and concern on the active 10 number. I try to ask around and get the answer. cool2.gif

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post Aug 18 2008, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(-Teddy- @ Aug 18 2008, 07:27 PM)
More competition among the telcos, expect more advertisement wars and better pricing structure. I'm been with Maxis since 5 years ago, time to change perhaps? Hopefully this will reduce the amount of spam and scam sms-es too. Imagine one telco couldn't stop people from stealing your credits, while the other have no such thing. Everyone will start ship jumping. The thing is I'm afraid there might be a fee for it, an expensive one.
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yups...as long as their fight do benefits us...that would be great... smile.gif
no more spamming, unknown-winning-contest, winning this and that shows, "hidden-charges"... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

yup...we need to pay a maximum of rm25 for switching to another telco... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Aug 18 2008, 09:46 PM)
yups...as long as their fight do benefits us...that would be great... smile.gif
no more spamming, unknown-winning-contest, winning this and that shows, "hidden-charges"... shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

yup...we need to pay a maximum of rm25 for switching to another telco... cool2.gif
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RM25 sounds reasonable. It's not like we are changing telco monthly. That would make the staff working in those telco restless as this will ruin all their plans, package or whatsoever. What active 10, friends and family, hope they will work together and make it possible to make them work for all telcos tongue.gif

A good chance for new telco like Umobile to compete in my opinion. With their "pay for just what you use". Anyone have any idea if the last number will be generated randomly or it's a fixed number?
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QUOTE(-Teddy- @ Aug 19 2008, 01:14 AM)
RM25 sounds reasonable. It's not like we are changing telco monthly. That would make the staff working in those telco restless as this will ruin all their plans, package or whatsoever. What active 10, friends and family, hope they will work together and make it possible to make them work for all telcos  tongue.gif

A good chance for new telco like Umobile to compete in my opinion. With their "pay for just what you use". Anyone have any idea if the last number will be generated randomly or it's a fixed number?
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telco like U-Mobile need to do extra homework to gain more "popularity"...many still have doubts with their coverage... hmm.gif
if MNP is implemented,they might left behind from the competition...they need to show more "strength"... flex.gif
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QUOTE(-Teddy- @ Aug 19 2008, 01:14 AM)
Anyone have any idea if the last number will be generated randomly or it's a fixed number?

I've been through a lot of these numbering plan changes in a lot of countries.

They always use a fixed number, or at least a predictable scheme (for example, repeat the second digit, so 12 333 4444 becomes 122 333 4444 and 16 777 8888 becomes 166 777 8888).

Adding a random number would be a nightmare. How would you get in touch with your contacts to find out what their new numbers are?


Added on August 19, 2008, 4:37 amMCMC has got to be about the stupidest organisation on the planet. I just read their document - http://www.skmm.gov.my/what_we_do/numberin...variation08.pdf - concerning the extra digit for mobile numbers.

It provides no implementation guidelines, it's like they thought about this over tea one morning and that was it. And they describe the new number format as: 01Y ZXXX XXXX, where Y is the variable part of a "mobile network identifier". But this totally ignores MNP. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

The document later describes 018 as being "available" even though U-Mobile had already received this assignment at that time.

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Typical Malaysian disorganization. Business as usual.
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post Aug 19 2008, 11:28 AM

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MCMC = macam-macam ma. So... anyone tried porting? I remember reading that they're gonna be available in Klang Valley first, as a testing phase.

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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Aug 19 2008, 04:17 AM)
I've been through a lot of these numbering plan changes in a lot of countries.

They always use a fixed number, or at least a predictable scheme (for example, repeat the second digit, so 12 333 4444 becomes 122 333 4444 and 16 777 8888 becomes 166 777 8888).

Adding a random number would be a nightmare. How would you get in touch with your contacts to find out what their new numbers are?


Added on August 19, 2008, 4:37 amMCMC has got to be about the stupidest organisation on the planet. I just read their document - http://www.skmm.gov.my/what_we_do/numberin...variation08.pdf - concerning the extra digit for mobile numbers.

It provides no implementation guidelines, it's like they thought about this over tea one morning and that was it. And they describe the new number format as: 01Y ZXXX XXXX, where Y is the variable part of a "mobile network identifier". But this totally ignores MNP. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

The document later describes 018 as being "available" even though U-Mobile had already received this assignment at that time.
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if they implement as what mentioned in the early-line post,that would be great... nod.gif

but after you mentioned reading their documentation...that sounds really really really doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
that's not MNP,that's fake...are they ready to get "fire" or what... flex.gif
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Now you are linking 8 numbering with mnp? Mnp for a long time in planning, at last, the race is up,
Digi already comes up 1 rate to all telco within Malaysia, in term of that, Digi actually earned more, also all is 30 seconds per block except some old plan, 12 per block, or U Mobile,
hope to hear more news, just now I passby Maxis, VP150 free Maxis to Maxis call, with *,
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Aug 19 2008, 03:40 PM)
hope to hear more news, just now I passby Maxis, VP150 free Maxis to Maxis call, with *,
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If MNP is implemented, I forsee the telco Helpdesk and Service Center will be full of people complain "why charge me when I call from my 012 number to that 012 number" hmm.gif
The caller does not know that the 012 number he called has port over to another telco operator. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Aug 19 2008, 03:40 PM)
Now you are linking 8 numbering with mnp? Mnp for a long time in planning, at last, the race is up,
Digi already comes up 1 rate to all telco within Malaysia, in term of that, Digi actually earned more, also all is 30 seconds per block except some old plan, 12 per block, or U Mobile,
hope to hear more news, just now I passby Maxis, VP150 free Maxis to Maxis call, with *,
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hmmm....i also saw at maxis booth...convert prepaid number to postpaid for free but with "*"...below they wrote "terms and conditions apply" small... sweat.gif

QUOTE(cucubud @ Aug 19 2008, 04:54 PM)
If MNP is implemented, I forsee the telco Helpdesk and Service Center will be full of people complain "why charge me when I call from my 012 number to that 012 number" hmm.gif
The caller does not know that the 012 number he called has port over to another telco operator. tongue.gif
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this kind of situation they better be ready or not... doh.gif
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Last time I read, if you convert to Hotlink to postpaid, they give you rebate like 20myr monthly, so let say, you choose VP50, like 30myr reload, of course, you may opt to pay for Activ10 like service VAS too, and must stay for 6 months in postpaid, quite brilliant plan, after that, you don't like, pay processing fee, convert to Hotlink,
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Aug 19 2008, 04:54 PM)
If MNP is implemented, I forsee the telco Helpdesk and Service Center will be full of people complain "why charge me when I call from my 012 number to that 012 number" hmm.gif
The caller does not know that the 012 number he called has port over to another telco operator. tongue.gif
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hmm... they already have online ebilling what... there will write maxis - digi/maxis/celcom/umobile mah..... brows.gif
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hmmmm....11 days before September 1st... cool2.gif
wonder how smooth the changes and implementation would proceed... hmm.gif
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post Aug 28 2008, 11:01 AM

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NEWEST NEWS!!

maxis will start its mnp operation from klang valley 1st. the launching date is on 7th sept 08 (if not mistaken)

Porting is FREE. no fee will be conducted.
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QUOTE(jack7155 @ Aug 28 2008, 11:01 AM)
NEWEST NEWS!!

maxis will start its mnp operation from klang valley 1st. the launching date is on 7th sept 08 (if not mistaken)

Porting is  FREE. no fee will be conducted.
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You mean Maxis numbers can go to other operators on 7th Sept?
What if the other operators not ready to accept Maxis numbers, how to port over? tongue.gif
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post Aug 28 2008, 11:28 AM

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I'd expect a billing nightmare.

I mean, if your 012 pal suddenly switch to digi, for sure you're gonna kena charged extra without you knowing about it. Also, this sort of stuff can also open up a lot of dirty tricks by telcos? I mean, here and there they can give you hidden charges.

But i guess digi users will be luckier lor. Calls to all telcos are same rate.
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Eventually all telcos will have the same rate. If not, they will lose out.
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QUOTE(jack7155 @ Aug 28 2008, 11:01 AM)
NEWEST NEWS!!

maxis will start its mnp operation from klang valley 1st. the launching date is on 7th sept 08 (if not mistaken)

Porting is  FREE. no fee will be conducted.
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free for others porting to Maxis or free to leave Maxis??
anyway common sense would be free for other telcos users to Maxis...
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If Maxis start its MNP and other telcos not yet start, what will happen?

If the other telco don't release that number, how can Maxis port it over?
When I call that number, which telco will be connecting my call?

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