thanks for highlighting this private lobby. my unit (with 200sf of private lobby) is still in master title and how to ensure the private lobby become accessory parcel? shall i contact the developer architect? any document to prove this?

currently i am paying full maintenance charge for the private lobby (200x 0.50). hope to reduce to half if the private lobby label as accessory parcel when strata title was out.

further to this , can i request to pay to JMB a lower fee (private lobby = half fee) before the strata title was out?

This post has been edited by lucerne: Apr 24 2017, 05:17 PM

Than i guess your the lucky one?

Cause its also dependent on the submission of the development plan. I guess you will be paying full maintenance in that case but do clarify whether it is part of the parcel or accessory because it will impact your maintenance charges.

Also, i think you have an old perception as to how maintenance fees are paid.

Before the strata management act came into force, all accessory parcels under a master title were not subject to maintenance fee charges. This was absorb by the management. Reason being, the accessory parcels were not carved out and specified in a title.

After the strata title is issued, the MC is now flushed with cash because after the master title no longer exist because the parcels are now sub-divided into plots and the plots (and accessories) are reflected in the title, the management is now able to charge maintenance fee accordingly.

With the strata management act, the developer is required to submit the relevant document to land office 3 months after VP. This will enable to land office to stratified the parcels according to the plans (i believe is the development plan). They already know the size both parcel and accessory and the management will charge the maintenance fee accordingly.

*accessory parcel include: car park, air conditioning ledge and possibly private lift lobby.

when i bought the unit, developer has included the private lobby area size into my unit . so when payment of maintenance fee, it is generally include the private lobby area into my account.

developer is now in the midst of submitting for strata title (will be under the new act ) since the submission is after June 2015. i just check hte architect plan and found the private lobby is indeed classified as accessory parcel together with car park and a/c ledge all factor as 0.5.

my question is , can i ask for reduction/refund since private lobby is now classified as accessory parcel according to architect plan. i have paid my maintenance since year 2012. mean all the while i have paid extra, JMB should charge base on the actual size of my unit (exclude the private lobby area size =200sf) , until the title is out and i need to pay my portion of private lobby ( at factor of 0.5). as u hv said, under master title , i should not pay for the accessory parcel. can i get a refund? i dont mind to pay my portion after june 2015

I just realised… based on the facts you have presented.

The SMA 2013 (Act 757) came into effect on 1 June 2015.

Anything before 1 June 2015, I am not quite sure of the treatment pertaining to private lift lobbies or accessory parcels for that matter. As it is governed by Act 663.

My current private lift lobby is charged based on item 5 (no.2) of Schedule 1 SMA 2013 (verified with manager of two condos).

If after June 2015, they are incorrectly charging you for the accessory parcels. I would say you can ask for a refund. Please verify with your management as to the basis and calculation.

p/s: i replied to your PM msg.

before june 2015 , management has no right to charge me the private lobby, while after june 2015 , they can only charge me half the rate.


This post has been edited by lucerne: Apr 28 2017, 05:46 PM

hi guys, im not sure this is the right thread to post this, here's the query,

ive been in the process to change my landed prop title from master to strata for almost 2years already, the reason for the delay is, developer blacklisted by land office.

what can i do and is there any way around this? thanks yo

fellow sifus, may I check on 2 things related to strata title:

1) my SPA is signed on April 2015, therefore from my understanding, developer can take their own sweet time to apply for the title, as compared to the new law in place?

2) in my SPA agreement, there is a clause stating:



however, after that, there is another clause in the SPA later on:



Does the above mean I have to pay the fees for the transfer of title, or the developer will bear the cost? confusing

This post has been edited by raptar_eric: May 23 2017, 06:25 PM

How come you have a property of master to strata title? Townhouse? Is your unit under Jabatan Insolvensi? If yes, then you can proceed to them for high court order. If not, you can seek Tribunal for this issues.

Attended my condo JMB annual general meeting recently:

Theres a few thing i wish to know more in terms of whether it is comply with the act 757.

1. Only owner with less than 1 month oustanding maintenance is eligible for voting.
2. the chairman who already served for 4 years re-elect for chairman again
3. we only vote for chairman position, no others committee member
4. there is no nomination process prior to this election
5. there is only notice put on notice board for this AGM, which owner who rent out their unit will not know this AGM
6. can the JMB stop owner from renting out to foreigner? as in the meeting, attended resident want our condo become 0% foreigner.so how JMB can assist in term of this.

Thanks in advance

1. yes, outstanding must be current
2. chairman is selected by the committee members during their 1st meeting; committee member can only serve 2 consecutive terms only
3. AGM is to vote for committee members not chairman
4. nomination must be open to all owners with no outstanding
5. notice of AGM via registered mail to owners and agenda, mgmt report, annual report as well
6. not sure, seems grey area

if any was breached, you can inform COB

So if without 14 day of notice via register mail,can we said that this agm is not proper and call for egm ? And what the procedure

There is no registered mail of informing, can we say that this agm not valid, call for egm? There is even don't have any management report , annual report tabulated or circulated

also, you need to check the quorum as well to see how many turned up; definitely, cannot serve 3 terms; audited annual report is a must

best is you get as many owners as possible to sign joint complaint letter to your COB, surely got some songlap happening

File complaint with COB and seek their adivse.

Thanks, will do that

Will do that

How to find where is COB ? My area is at mpsj

How to find which is my COB?