i just contacted a/c servicer for cleaning..my a/c is working fine
he said need to take down the compressor for cleaning because i live in condo
after that just install back, he don't do gas refill & vacuum
should i take his advise? ( to dismantle the compressor)i'm concern the gas might get lesser?

btw rm130 for chemical cleaning for 5yr old 1hp non inverter

Hi Guys, sorry to ask again since did not get any response from anyone.
So far anyone encountered issues on LG AC?
Heard a lot of AC installer recommended only Daikin and commented that LG aircond is no good and hard to get spare parts for after sales service (spare parts only available direct from LG manufacturer)?

Appreciate if you could share some of your experience on this if any.

Thanks.

Aircond selection based on power consumption.

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To me it looks expensive,,,its been awhile sine i hired a contractor, since I DIY mine.

But at that price, it should be including indoor unit and external compressor cleaning and top-up gas if needed. The market range is rm120-150

May I ask which Panasonic brand AC able to maintain moisture in the room?

my target:-

1.0 hp
RM1k - 1.5k
small room

When you said maintain moisture level in room, meaning the aircond moisture removal should be as the same rate as the moisture being generated.
Well I am not sure what is the amount of moisture generated in your room, but I can tell you is that from all the Panasonic 1.0 HP aircond, the moisture removal are all the same when obtained from spec in website, at 1.6 L/h or 3.4 Pt/h.

If you want more moisture removal, go for higher HP aircond of the same brand and model.
Panasonic 1.5 HP at 2.1 L/h or 4.4 pt/h.
Panasonic 2.0 HP at 2.9 L/h or 6.1 pt/h

confused..

I'm looking for moisture maintaining (not remove moisture).


Is that true that nanoe-G can able to maintain moisture?
model name: Panasonic 1.0HP Non-Inverter Air Conditioner PSN-CSV9RKH

btw, senheng is good? i saw their installation price is slightly high.
http://www.senheng.com.my/standard-installation

some said certain shop selling aircon include installation price.


my aircon desired:-

uninstall the old unit (does it charge? or can i sell it?)
1.0 hp
RM1k - 1.5k
small room
subang area


This post has been edited by eligible: Sep 25 2017, 09:24 AM

Can't answer your moisture maintaining regarding to nanoe-G, no knowledge on it.
Not salesman or Pana engineer, can't help here.

hi,




uninstall the old unit (does it charge? or can i sell it?)
1.0 hp
RM1k - 1.5k
small room
subang area

which is better?:-


[b]1. Panasonic 1.0HP Non-Inverter Air Conditioner PSN-CSV9RKH

1.0 hp Deluxe Non Inverter,R-410A
ECONAVI 35% Energy Saving
i-Auto provides "Increase fan motor rotation speed
Aero Wing Flap
nanoe-G with Odour Deodorization ability
3-Star Energy Rating
RM14xx

2. Panasonic 1.0HP Premium Inverter AERO Series Air Conditioner PSN-CSS10TKH

1.0HP
Cooling Capacity: 9,550 (2,860-10,200) Btu/h
Inverter, iAUTO Comfort Technology

Rm15xx

3. Panasonic 1.0HP Premium Inverter AERO Series Air Conditioner
1.0 HP
Aerowings (Direct Cooling & Indirect Cooling)
R410A Refrigerant
AEROWINGS, iAUTO-X, ECONAVI, Inverter, nanoe-G
5-star Energy Rating
Rm17xx
[/b]

This post has been edited by eligible: Sep 25 2017, 10:59 AM

My old house uses that, Smartco (KR). Inaba Denko (JP) is the other brand. Don't be deceived, although many of us close one eye due to prevalent practice and ignorance (me included), installers habit or practicality limit (budget to rehack), in SG, air con installers can lose their license even if they use a single jacket insulation to cover the two pipes which is mixing. I'm specifying it for my new installs. Paircoil basically means both AC copper coils are already preinsulated, individually. Higher specs are used for hot water to delay thermal decay but then again in our country, enforcement is quite lax. All depends if home owner sees benefit.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Sep 25 2017, 01:47 PM

Not sure about that function, but I already called LG technician and they come and check my aircond and tell me my installer actually broke the flipper.

i need to buy the spare part to replaced the broken part, luckily my installer willing to paid back the spare broken part.

yeah you are correct the connector that connected between flipper and motor were broken and my installer just glue that part. how could they do that to my new aircond..

Can sell. Ask installer to do it for you or find second hand sellers in LYN. They are around.

For AC, cannot just advise like that as that's subjectively putting the cart before the horse. Start with these first...
1. Room dimension (LxWxH)
2. dwelling landed or condo?
2a. If landed, is it intermediate or corner and does roof has insulation?
2b. If condo, which floor? 1st, in between or top?
3. How big is window area in % of total frontage (all walls if condo where windows are installed)
3a. If landed, are there trees planted directly in the path where the sun hits ie how much shading does these trees provide?
4. bedroom facing where in compass point (all applicable points for condo).

With the info above, you'll know if 1hp sufficient or not and start narrowing down your options.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Sep 25 2017, 02:03 PM

Actually I've decided on 1hp AC. Room very small only.

My main concern is the quality of the AC and the service by the retail shop. Still looking for quality service provider. Eg. After service etc

If your bedroom is in double story home upstairs with no insulation in the roof, 30% additional cooling is typically required even if the area seems to be sized for 1hp. Usually for AC, in this situation, SkyAire would not be desirable unless the room is precooled without any occupant inside first or used in combination of ceiling fan. Reliability should go for Daikin or Mitsubishi Electric or Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Sep 25 2017, 08:36 PM

Buy from Jintex as they are competitive. AC unlike Genting or Kinabalu is based on condensation with moisture removed.

Nanoe is basically hydroxylization based purifying. The resulting effect is added moisture but not as much.

Either run at 27-28°C with 2-3 speed ceiling fan to bring about perceptible cooling of about 25-26°C. Moisture is removed but at a slower rate or if preferring colder - without resorting to investing in a humidifier - add a wide mouthed plastic tub like those use for washing clothes and fill it a quarter full with water. That compensates for moisture removed so the air doesn't feel too dry. This is the oldest trick which I've been told parents used for their young children to prevent their lungs from drying out too much.

Having moved back to condo, we're getting used to sleeping without AC as much as we can. The humidity is in the high 80s to 90s but the temperature can fall to 24-25°C. Only on oppressively hot nights do we turn it on.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Sep 26 2017, 06:57 AM

Just realised that issue with insulation, especially when it comes to hot evening roughly 4pm to 6pm, my room was hit by the sunlight. You could feel the heat even far away from window.

I think i've decided to go for Mitsu GJ10VA - R410A since many k/ member recommend mitsu.

Btw, any shop you would recommend? in terms of services and warranty, preferable (credit card installation) as well as good installation service.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4415967&hl=

thank you so much for the nanoe tech sharing

This post has been edited by eligible: Sep 26 2017, 11:09 AM

Fujiaire is having a warehouse sale coming up from 6 - 8 Oct 2017 (10am - 6pm). Prices is stated to start from RM399 but am not sure for what exactly.

You can use the Waze link to get to their office in Batu Caves https://www.waze.com/location?h=w2863u7h4




This post has been edited by adrianjc: Sep 26 2017, 11:56 AM

No worries but hope you don't misunderstand that I'm not against nanoe or Plasmacluster or Samsung plasma (Splasma) or LG etc. They are truly beneficial esp when integrated in AC.

However, maintaining high humidity works cross purposes to how an AC works. There's a compromise needed. Hence in my home, if AC is turned on the house rule is no colder than 26°C and lightly dressed e.g.singlet and sleeping shorts and fleece blanket. Normally it would be 27°C AUTO with 2 speed ceiling fan which brings the humidity down to 65% and temperature 25°C owing to windchill. Everyone needs to drink at least two cups of water before they sleep. Colder than that is harmful long term.

My own preference is Sharp inverters with plasma cluster and self clean (mould prevention) and their upward air throw such was introduced in 2008-2009, way before Panasonic Skyair entered the market. The newer models had long throw out 14m as of 2015.

Any recommendation have take a wider view that just AC hp.

Hence, all the questions I raised earlier should be the primary driver first to determine the cooling load in BTU/hr from which you then derive the AC's HP required.

I've lived both in landed and condo, some afternoon sun facing, some morning sun facing and am familiar with the seasonal variation of sunlight on the buildings over the year where I live.

Basically it's the compass points where the room is oriented that matters when calculating. Trees over the frontage of the room adds to solar shading. Insulation over the roof matters as it brings down the heat load factor. Living in the top floor of a condo matters if the roof is not covered ie bare concrete exposed to the elements. Facing W,SW,NW will increase heat load. Ground floor is more insulated than top floors typically but that depends if there's a garden (affords better ground heat insulation) or fully paved front yard (living room becomes an oven by 1pm if there's no awning), etc.

Don't rush into which model....just work out the factors affecting the room that needs cooling than based on that go for the features or requirements that matters. Good piping and installer handiwork matters and don't stinge on that. The AC will be operating for a long time if maintained well as long as the brand is reputable and the product reliably engineered.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Sep 26 2017, 12:58 PM

Even under a hot afternoon your temperate maintain at 25? isn't it a bit too warm?

Based on my experience, high-rise building and landed property heat slightly different. Even with direct heat by the sunlight wouldn't be as hot as landed property because the advantage of high-rise building comes with strong air-flow, where my housing area is quite close to highway, the temperature affected the housing area. I could boil eggs at my garden from 12pm to 5pm.


Piping yea, but in what way?