Any idea what is the diff between r410 and r32? One shop recommended me to take the daikin r32 inverter instead of the 410.
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Jun 25 2015, 12:19 PM
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Any idea what is the diff between r410 and r32? One shop recommended me to take the daikin r32 inverter instead of the 410.
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Jun 25 2015, 12:21 PM
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Jun 25 2015, 12:24 PM
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Jun 25 2015, 12:35 PM
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just checked to change model from r22 to r410.. each need tambah RM 80, and upgrade one of it from 1.5hp to 2hp need add RM 950 for my living room.
damn gao. -.- |
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Jun 25 2015, 12:54 PM
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Jun 25 2015, 03:02 PM
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For r410 and r22 gas, 0.61mm enough?
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Jun 25 2015, 03:28 PM
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Stock market boring, so master cherroy now talks a/c liao
QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 25 2015, 10:49 AM) Can use is one matter. I talked to the technician of condo contractor. He told me that the pipes can be used for both inverter and non-inverter types. (I suppose what he meant was R410 and R22). However, max for 'new gas' is 2.5 hp, while max for 'old gas' is 2.0 hp.While the pipe is purposely cater for R410a spec is another matter. You don't ask the engineer can use or not. You ask what is the spec of the pipe. If pressure for R410 is higher, isn't that we should use smaller hp a/c |
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Jun 25 2015, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 25 2015, 03:28 PM) Stock market boring, so master cherroy now talks a/c liao The gas inside is just a transfer medium. And R22 do have 2.5HP model. That's why you need to know the application of the air cond. For me, the living need to be maintain for 25-26°C on the sofas area, so 2HP are enough for me. But if you were to cool down the whole room, then you need 2.5HP or above for a 22*15 room.I talked to the technician of condo contractor. He told me that the pipes can be used for both inverter and non-inverter types. (I suppose what he meant was R410 and R22). However, max for 'new gas' is 2.5 hp, while max for 'old gas' is 2.0 hp. If pressure for R410 is higher, isn't that we should use smaller hp a/c |
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Jun 25 2015, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 25 2015, 03:28 PM) Stock market boring, so master cherroy now talks a/c liao Pipe are all the same, just thickness, and diameter only. I talked to the technician of condo contractor. He told me that the pipes can be used for both inverter and non-inverter types. (I suppose what he meant was R410 and R22). However, max for 'new gas' is 2.5 hp, while max for 'old gas' is 2.0 hp. If pressure for R410 is higher, isn't that we should use smaller hp a/c The concern of pipe is about ability to withstand the higher pressure of R410a which operates about 1.6x R22, especially at joint part, as mentioned by forumer. Smaller HP motor how to pump higher pressure? |
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Jun 25 2015, 09:16 PM
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Bros, just want to check on your comment on Mitsubishi and Hitachi non inverter aircond. Is it good?
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Jun 25 2015, 10:06 PM
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Jun 25 2015, 10:22 PM
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Panasonic econavi aircon ok? Salesman and airconman recommend me. Is it quiet and safe electricity?
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Jun 25 2015, 10:29 PM
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Jun 25 2015, 10:30 PM
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Jun 25 2015, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Jun 25 2015, 04:11 PM) The gas inside is just a transfer medium. And R22 do have 2.5HP model. That's why you need to know the application of the air cond. For me, the living need to be maintain for 25-26°C on the sofas area, so 2HP are enough for me. But if you were to cool down the whole room, then you need 2.5HP or above for a 22*15 room. you guys talk about inverter saving electricity and r410 for green environment but use aircon at living room 2hp somemore. I guess i am greener with 1/2 hp aircon r22 at my bedroom only.cheaper electricity bill too than yours |
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Jun 26 2015, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jun 25 2015, 10:31 PM) you guys talk about inverter saving electricity and r410 for green environment but use aircon at living room 2hp somemore. I guess i am greener with 1/2 hp aircon r22 at my bedroom only.cheaper electricity bill too than yours Well, I never says that inverter can really save electricity. Only some fanboys die die says it can save |
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Jun 26 2015, 07:43 AM
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Actually m'sian user almost claim inverter not saving energy at much.
Due to what reason? Set too low Temperatures because the unit after installed never check gas pressure and tells the customer original gas from MFGs should be enought within 3m long piping and unnecessary for topping gas at all. The bonus from who installed may save some extra gas here. The next step from the user may claim the unit of inverter never as cold as non inverter right. Cause non inverter from the installed they will doing the right thing and top up gas or check pressure before they leave, why ? Answer here : cheap who care the gas on R22. Everything if not right then you guys should claim the issue to installation and do the right thing before they handle for you. From inverter the main setting was temperature n follow by fan speed. (Inverter unit may not set as low as on 23C from the energy is quite similar to non inverter unit, that is why claim the inverter never save up at all) |
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Jun 26 2015, 07:47 AM
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Bonus added..
Inverter gas pressure after compressor kick in the meter must show is around 80 gas level and can't less than 70-60 around. From 80 then the inverter unit may runs more energy saving at all. |
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Jun 26 2015, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 26 2015, 07:43 AM) Actually m'sian user almost claim inverter not saving energy at much. my electricity is less than you. checkmateDue to what reason? Set too low Temperatures because the unit after installed never check gas pressure and tells the customer original gas from MFGs should be enought within 3m long piping and unnecessary for topping gas at all. The bonus from who installed may save some extra gas here. The next step from the user may claim the unit of inverter never as cold as non inverter right. Cause non inverter from the installed they will doing the right thing and top up gas or check pressure before they leave, why ? Answer here : cheap who care the gas on R22. Everything if not right then you guys should claim the issue to installation and do the right thing before they handle for you. From inverter the main setting was temperature n follow by fan speed. (Inverter unit may not set as low as on 23C from the energy is quite similar to non inverter unit, that is why claim the inverter never save up at all) |
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Jun 26 2015, 10:15 AM
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