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miumiu1234
post Jun 11 2021, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Jun 11 2021, 07:47 AM)
https://www.daikin.com.my/heat-calculator/

You can use this calculator to get the recommended BTU / hr

Once you get that figure add another +10% to compensate for Malaysian weather
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 11 2021, 12:23 AM)
This 1hp FTKF is a 316i bimmer. Only the badge is good.
The car is slow even if u step full gas. laugh.gif
barely 9k btu..
9,000 (3,400-9,200) and 4star ST.. turbo btu 9200 so close to nominal btu 9000, it make no difference in cooling if u press the turbo button. (can say almost all other 1hp INV will beat its cooling performance).

In comparison for around the same price range, you can get better cooling performance:

1) even the Hitachi RAS-XH10CKM btu 9,210(3,070-11,260), RM1199 online, while not as great as its previous CJ series, it can do up to 11k+ turbo btu (~20% more cooling capacity). This also 4 star ST.

2) Or Pana X Deluxe 1hp CS-XPU10WKH-1, 9680 (3070-11600) btu around RM1299 online can be considered as well. This is 5 star ST.

Mitsu 1hp JS economy series also another 8800 nominal 92xx turbo like the FTKF..there are 2 variants of 1hp but I usually see Msia market having the lower spec one so cannot recommend JS series. The better spec is the premium GR series but price also premium..
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today they msg me another model sharp AHX9VED2, any review?
dayalan86
post Jun 11 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(miumiu1234 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:44 PM)
today they msg me another model sharp AHX9VED2, any review?
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Should be ok, I am using Sharp AHXP10WMD since last year; replaced a 10 year old Mitsubishi Electric 1.0hp which was literally falling apart.

Not sure if the watts rating on Sharp website is accurate or not though, AHXP10WMD is rated 710W vs AHX9VED2 at 890W.

Sharp max BTU is 10000 btu/hr; nominal 9000 btu/hr for 1hp

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post Jun 11 2021, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:16 PM)
Should be ok, I am using Sharp AHXP10WMD since last year; replaced a 10 year old Mitsubishi Electric 1.0hp which was literally falling apart.

Not sure if the watts rating on Sharp website is accurate or not though, AHXP10WMD is rated 710W vs AHX9VED2 at 890W.

Sharp max BTU is 10000 btu/hr; nominal 9000 btu/hr for 1hp
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ok man thanks again. Goona make decision, later out of stock.. LOL
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post Jun 11 2021, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(miumiu1234 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:44 PM)
today they msg me another model sharp AHX9VED2, any review?
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BBB, past post mentioned before. smile.gif
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post Jun 12 2021, 01:01 PM

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hi @ceo684,
Do you recommend cassette type of air con or 2 separate unit of air con?

This is for my living hall + dining hall together..
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post Jun 12 2021, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Jun 12 2021, 01:01 PM)
hi @ceo684,
Do you recommend cassette type of air con or 2 separate unit of air con?

This is for my living hall + dining hall together..
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What is the ceiling height ?
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post Jun 12 2021, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 12 2021, 01:22 PM)
What is the ceiling height ?
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hi.. sorry I do not have the ceiling measurement.. but I consider the ceiling to be higher than normal double storey houses..
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post Jun 12 2021, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Jun 12 2021, 01:01 PM)
hi @ceo684,
Do you recommend cassette type of air con or 2 separate unit of air con?

This is for my living hall + dining hall together..
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For larger room size, the cassette give more even cooling than the usual wall mounted split AC.
Ceiling height higher than normal is good for cassette. If its too low there may be cold-spots (more apparent with 4-way blower).
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post Jun 12 2021, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 12 2021, 10:22 PM)
For larger room size, the cassette give more even cooling than the usual wall mounted split AC.
Ceiling height higher than normal is good for cassette. If its too low there may be cold-spots (more apparent with 4-way blower).
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just thinking if I use cassette, and I only need air con for living hall but air flow also flows towards dining area.. wouldn't it a bit wasted?


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post Jun 12 2021, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Jun 12 2021, 10:48 PM)
just thinking if I use cassette, and I only need air con for living hall but air flow also flows towards dining area.. wouldn't it a bit wasted?
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Due to Brownian movement effect "gerakan Brown" of particles, the cold air will dissipate throughout the whole container (the room)..and mix with the warm air, regardless of AC type. Or in layman term.. the cold air still leak all over to the other half.

Sitting in one half of the space sized for a 2hp, whereby the aircon cooling capacity total is 2 units x 1hp, does not automatically mean a single 1hp will cool that half-only (of a 2hp-sized room).
It will still run, but you'll feel it only cools down slowly with 1 aircon only, as it is rather undersized for the whole container.. unless you subdivide the container (like a bento box) i.e. dining/living area with a shower curtain etc.. then it makes the effective container space smaller

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post Jun 13 2021, 12:07 AM

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Guys, can i request air technician to fill up aircon gas w/o servicing i.e chemical cleaning, etc? If so, how much it cost to fill up r32 gas for a 1.0 inverter mount unit?

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mini orchard
post Jun 14 2021, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jo@NJS @ Jun 13 2021, 12:07 AM)
Guys, can i request air technician to fill up aircon gas w/o servicing i.e chemical cleaning, etc? If so, how much it cost to fill up r32 gas for a 1.0 inverter mount unit?
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Firsly, how do you know you need to top up gas ? Not blowing cold air ? It could be other reason like a dirty ODU which you couldnt see.

If really is out of gas, then the techician should check the source of the leak. The AC gas circulation system works similarly like our blood circulation. If there is no cut, blood will not flow out. Refilling gas is waste of money if there is a leak.

When was the last you did a proper servicing, IDU and ODU ? If you have not been doing self cleaning the air filter plus a heavy user, is time to call for service. Dont mention anything about gas. Just say service. If need to refill gas he will inform you.

You may be surprised it may not required a gas refill.

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post Jun 14 2021, 08:14 PM

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One of my AC decided to show a 'sickness' today despite knowing is mco and no technician available.....lol.

Removed the casing and checked the sensor ..... settled. Had a spare sensor on standby.

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post Jun 14 2021, 11:04 PM

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Hi guys, while doing research for my first house, I am really confused by many of the terms stated on each brand's specs. *sorry I am a total newbie*
How do I get a concrete answer that one aircon is more efficient than the other? do I compare the EER for Cooling W/W (Higher the better?)


Panasonic X-Deluxe
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Hisense R32 - KAGS
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Sharp AHXP24YMD
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Mitsubushi GR Series
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Thanks in advance



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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Jun 14 2021, 11:04 PM)
Hi guys, while doing research for my first house, I am really confused by many of the terms stated on each brand's specs. *sorry I am a total newbie*
How do I get a concrete answer that one aircon is more efficient than the other? do I compare the EER for Cooling W/W (Higher the better?)

Thanks in advance
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btu/h or usually referred to as btu here .. can be said as alternate unit for cooling power (how much heat this AC can take away in one hour).. so generally within the same class ("1hp") this is how we determine which are the better cooling ones.
For cars.. you can have those legendary engine B16 VTEC 170hp.. B16 vtec 160hp.. standard 1.6 old sentra 140hp.. or some lawnmower engine 90hp. but all are sold as 1.6L rclxms.gif
Higher btu/h means the aircon can throw more heat away in one hr/ higher is better so it can achieve target temp faster. You're already imagining the 1.6L lawnmower engine to be slower than the rest brows.gif

EER is a measure of efficiency (under theoretical calculation/best case).. which is pretty much dependent on overall technical design and components. Higher is better, because its like how much heat can be thrown away after spending a known amount of TNB power units. Something like km/L for cars (as advertised) as this is translating the cooling power btu into W and dividing this by the electricity consumed by the unit. For some inverters, you can see that the EER changes for low load and high load scenario.
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not to scale but just to make the point, some models/capacity is jack of all trades, others are great for high load but not so for low load.. this was an approximation for
CS-XPU10WKH-1 EER 13.26 (13.64-11.26) vs CS-XPU13WKH-1 12.63 (12.65-12.07)




Generally
EER <10 makan minyak shakehead.gif
11 pass
12 A
13 A++

Since EER only provide best case scenario (drive KL-JB 80kmh behind a trailer for 5 hours) to get best fuel consumption.. or limited data points as most data available is just nominal BTU, at min BTU and at max BTU 3 data points only.. what about those in betweens? (because we only have these 3 data points, that's why the graph also assume it is straight line)
CSPF is something like mixed mode driving (aircon is tested through standardised set of tests) which test the aircon efficiency over more accurate test conditions, from this CSPF it is just like national exam band grading.. e.g between 0-50 fail..51-60 E...and so on and so forth, to get the ST-stars. Everyone sit for the same STPM paper.

So the best A students here is your 5-star ST aircon, B grade one will be 4-star..etc. Exact CSPF band ranges this one you need to dig out the ST MEPS appliance standards or the MS standard per that red ST sticker. The MEPS rules say you cannot sell a super crappy E-grade 1-star appliance so they only allow you to sell if the product is at minimum 2-star ST.

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post Jun 15 2021, 04:07 PM

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Well after doing some research comparing Senheng, Harvey Norman, Onking, ESH, and Shopee (Not a fan of Lazada)

I've come across the rough pricing for the entry level of inverter aircon for 3 brands below:
Panasonic X-Deluxe 1.5hp - RM 1.7k (Shopee)
Panasonic X-Deluxe 2.5hp - RM 3.0k (Shopee)
Mitsubishi JS 1.5hp - RM1.8k (Onking)
Mitsubishi JS 2.5hp - RM3.0k (Shopee)
Daikin FTKF 1.5hp - RM 1.7k (Shopee)
Daikin FTKF 2.5hp - RM 2.9k (Shopee)

For anyone who is interested. Price not including installation la of course.

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post Jun 15 2021, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Jun 15 2021, 04:07 PM)
Well after doing some research comparing Senheng, Harvey Norman, Onking, ESH, and Shopee (Not a fan of Lazada)

I've come across the rough pricing for the entry level of inverter aircon for 3 brands below:
Panasonic X-Deluxe 1.5hp - RM 1.7k (Shopee)
Panasonic X-Deluxe 2.5hp - RM 3.0k (Shopee)
Mitsubishi JS 1.5hp -  RM1.8k (Onking)
Mitsubishi JS 2.5hp -  RM3.0k (Shopee)
Daikin FTKF 1.5hp - RM 1.7k (Shopee)
Daikin FTKF 2.5hp - RM 2.9k (Shopee)

For anyone who is interested. Price not including installation la of course.
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post Jun 15 2021, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 15 2021, 04:24 PM)
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post Jun 18 2021, 05:45 PM

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Hi guys, so sorry if this is asked previously.

Would like to get a solid answer to my questions below:

Details:
- 2 Pax
- North Facing
- Well Shaded

1. Living Room + Dining + Kitchen (530 sqft) - Should I get a 2.0 or get a 2.5 HP just to be safe?
2. Principal Bedroom (230 sqft) - Should I get a 1.0 or get a 1.5 HP just to be safe?
3. Best rule of thumbs is to multiply per sqft by 25 BTU?

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