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post Jul 28 2015, 10:38 AM

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Beholding

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2 Corinthians 3:18(NIV) - And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.


Someone I know, asked me recently. I did something wrong. I don't know why I did it. I felt guilty before God.
Deep down inside, I guess there is a cry, How do I stop falling short of God's expectation as Christians?

We all want to live Godly lives, exhibiting right living with the fruits of the Holy Spirit so that when people see our actions, they can say you're different from the world and God gets the Glory.

I believe we need to understand foundational principals before proceeding from here. It will help us to be strongly rooted everytime the storm comes.

First let us established that we are literally made righteous by Faith in Christ, understanding Christ's work qualifies you, not your works or effort.
Next we need to understand, That if we put ourselves under the Law of the OT, whether consciously or subconsciously, just like the law of gravity, it will drive us to sin.
With that being said, we need to consciously be established under the covenant of God's Grace, why? Because only under the soil of Grace, Sin loses it's grip and hold. (Romans 6:14)
Did you hear that?

Do you understand this foundation principals? Please take time to digest before moving on to read because these foundation are very important to remember.

Now, with that being said, knowing all these is not enough. What then? Do I pray everyday to be changed?
How come I've prayed tons of prayer and I'm still not changed? I still exhibit part of my old self. I still get angry, I raged, I this and that.

Transformation involves our part and God's part. Predominantly God is the one who does the changing. Only He has that power. In of ourselves, we cannot.
So what is our part?

Here is it is.

Bible says that we are transformed by the renewing of our mind. (Romans 12:2) Renewing of mind means, change in thought. In the Greek, metanoya which is repentance.
This is where everything starts. You do this right, the result will be right.

Traditionally, some preacher teaches that repentance is changing our wrong act to righteous act by feeling remorseful over sin. The more remorse you are, the more truer your repentance. No wonder many Christians are not transformed because that is not what the Bible teaches. That sort of repentance I will go as far to say, is the teaching of Man, not God.

So what do we change our mind with? What is there to change?

2 Corinthians 3:18 says it like this - And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

What it means is that when we contemplate (our thoughts) on the Lord's Glory, we are transformed into God's image. We will exhibit God's character, which are all the fruits of the Holy Spirit. Only in God, there is power to change, there is hope. But UW, what is the Lord's Glory?

In the Greek, The word Glory is doxa, the very first definition means; opinion (always good). The rest of the definition followed by: praise, honor, glory divine quality of God.
The very first definition is the key. What's my basis for saying this? Acts 20:21 (KJV) - Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Acts 20:21 is the basis for this definition. Repentance (Change of mind) Toward God, meaning for God, not against God.In simple words, have a good opinion of God.

Contemplate on our Lord Jesus Christ's Glory for example: When Peter was motion to come by our Lord Jesus Christ, He walked on the water. I believe his eyes was on the Lord Jesus Christ, He was momentarily transformed into the same image, exhibiting the supernatural. But when Peter look at the boisterous winds, His eye no longer on our Lord Jesus, he sank. There is a lesson in that story.

This is our every battle. Instead of focusing on our failures, or how much wrong you have committed thus far, contemplate on our Lord's Glory. Fight this everyday against every other thoughts even in the midst of your failures. I'll close this devotion with this last verse.

2 Corinthians 3:17 (NIV) - Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

We are are being transformed into his image by beholding the Lord's Glory.

God Bless.

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Jul 28 2015, 09:53 AM)
No one can be saved after death without believing in Jesus Christ. I think that's the foundation of the whole new testament.
If we can pray to God so that everyone can be saved, how good is that but unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. This is why we have to share the gospel before the person leave us.

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 28 2015, 05:45 PM)
Yeah, u can tell it to this guy : de1929

wreaking havoc all over the place. i'll have to stop feeding the troll frm now on.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jul 28 2015, 07:29 PM)
Internet trolls everywhere.

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instead of disrespecting man of GOD and bring curse to your self ?

why don't you pray and fast so anything that's not from heavenly father will be removed ?

don't tell me you don't believe in power of prayer

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hi bro 2malaysia,

apart from 2015 being a SHEMITAH year, the YEAR OF THE JUBILEE follows suit after that. thumbup.gif

The year before a Jubilee is always a Shemitah year in Jewish law.

Soon after, the beginning of the YEAR OF THE JUBILEE begins on the DAY OF ATONEMENT as well! What a coincidence! thumbup.gif

Just to let u knw, Yom Kippur begins on Sept 23rd 2015 rclxm9.gif The coming Jubilee year is extra special.

Do u also knw, that there will have been 40 complete Jubilee cycles following Christ’s death? Cool huh? icon_rolleyes.gif

For your info, 40 is a significant number in the Bible.

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 28 2015, 08:00 PM)
instead of disrespecting man of GOD and bring curse to your self ?

why don't you pray and fast so anything that's not from heavenly father will be removed ?

don't tell me you don't believe in power of prayer
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Well, there is power in prayer but I am sure they are certain extent because we are limited, but our God is limitless. Let me ask you a few questions:

1. Can I pray once that Holy spirit will pray on behalf of us, so that we don't have to pray anymore?
2. Since pastor is praying for us why do we still have to pray?
3. Since God knows everything, why do we have to pray?

If we start to exercise our logic, instead of faith and truth, in the end we can form our own beliefs. I am not saying who is right and wrong, and whether we pray for the death that he will receive salvation is impossible, because I am not God. No one knows whether those are saved will go to Heaven anyways. Through salvation and belief in Jesus, how sure we are we will have eternal life?

In summary, God wants everyone to be saved too.

1 Timothy 2:3-4
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

The keyword is "The truth", which I believe is referring to the bible.
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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Jul 29 2015, 09:39 AM)
Well, there is power in prayer but I am sure they are certain extent because we are limited, but our God is limitless. Let me ask you a few questions:

1. Can I pray once that Holy spirit will pray on behalf of us, so that we don't have to pray anymore?
2. Since pastor is praying for us why do we still have to pray?
3. Since God knows everything, why do we have to pray?

If we start to exercise our logic, instead of faith and truth, in the end we can form our own beliefs. I am not saying who is right and wrong, and whether we pray for the death that he will receive salvation is impossible, because I am not God. No one knows whether those are saved will go to Heaven anyways. Through salvation and belief in Jesus, how sure we are we will have eternal life?

In summary, God wants everyone to be saved too.

1 Timothy 2:3-4
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

The keyword is "The truth", which I believe is referring to the bible.
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the bible say clearly old wine and new wine cannot be mixed.

if you are from traditional church, you can't understand my teachings, and my answers are considered trolling (proven already above).

who am i ? take a look at my signature.
next question ? who are you ? are you pentecostal ?

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Why did Jesus gave the Law?

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Matthew 5:17(NIV) -“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.


Matthew 5

The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Some Christians and even Moslems for that matter love to quote this verse above and say; "See? Jesus says you must obey the Law, He's upholding back the the Old Covenant Laws of God as a measure of justification for Righteousness." And people say, you must follow what Jesus does or say. (WWJD)

Both statements are correct, only that you didn't understand why Jesus said that.

Jesus also said that if you look in lust towards someone in your mind, it's better for you to pluck out your eyes than burn in Hell. Secretly in your heart, you'll start to fall back thinking,"Oh God is just saying that to show how serious it is, But seriously, I don't think I will pluck out my eyes, God is graceful" I need my eyes for my studies, for my work, to help my parent, etc. Well? have you obeyed Jesus to the letter to have plucked your eye? Chop off your hands or your feet? Why only confess with your mouth "We must obey" but you did not execute this in reality?

This the problem with Man's way of thinking. We want everything to our preference. We say one thing to squash others out of self righteousness but back off when the Gun is pointed back at you.

Dear Friends, read carefully what Jesus really said in the entire context, for whom and why. I appeal to your spiritual judgement to think in Wisdom patiently rather than do a sweeping generalization by reading it at face value.

Jesus says: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus came to Fulfilled the Laws of God. Full stop. Jesus can and did. What about you?

Even the best of the OT, King David, God entitled Him a Man after his own heart, failed (Lusted with Beersheba, Murdered the husband, etc). Abraham God calls Him a Friend of God (what a titled) Failed (Lied Twice to save his own life). An older Christian brother once argued with me saying that it's the hypocrisy of the pharisee that we must not follow, then when we obey the 10 commandment, our righteousness will surpass the pharisees. But there is a problem with that statement. Has anyone been able to?

People tell me, that God is merciful and graceful, sure nobody is perfect, we may sin here and there but If we keep trying to uphold the law, we can sin less with the help of the Holy Spirit and based on God's Grace as how you (UW) teached, sure we have hope. The problem with this doctrine of "who sin less have more hope of entering heaven" is not found in the Bible. Did you just hear what I have just said? I find that many Christians are in denial of this. They pretend not to accept this or know this in detail. God does not differentiate the degree, who sin less or who sin more.

James magnified this even better: For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. That is God's Standard, Dear Friends. You Either Sin or you Don't. There is no such thing as those who sin less God is more happy or favourable to give him the Grace of Salvation compared to those who sin mored as Christians. No SUCH Doctrine!

NO! Read what Jesus said carefully.

20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. Jesus said: CERTAINLY NOT! The word Certainly not in the Greek is Ou mē which means NEVER EVER! It's a double assurance of NEVER!

Wow, Jesus was sure very serious with this statement, wasn't he? My answer is Yes. If you study the Bible, you'll notice a pattern. Jesus also said other interesting things;

Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.

"Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Jesus was really raising the Standard of the Bar Here, wasn't he?

Has anyone gave up all He has and followed Jesus? Gave up every RM in his bank account. But UW, surely this is a figure of speech, wasn't it? Jesus can't be serious right? I mean how am I going to eat my lunch then? What Am I going to wear then? I'll tell you go by Faith then, God will provide wat. Matthew 5:25-34 promised that wat. Well? Have you done it? Those who shout so much about "We must uphold the Law" Have you obeyed this to the letter?

If you're unable to do any of those perfectly, just admit it in all honesty. Because this is the reason why Jesus gave the law. He wants us to come to the end of ourselves and say this

Matthew 19:25 - When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"

The answer is here

Matthew 19:26 - Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

The Answer is "ONLY God" None of you.

God Bless.

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hi bro 2malaysia,

apart from 2015 being a SHEMITAH year, the YEAR OF THE JUBILEE follows suit after that.  thumbup.gif

The year before a Jubilee is always a Shemitah year in Jewish law.

Soon after, the beginning of the YEAR OF THE JUBILEE begins on the DAY OF ATONEMENT as well! What a coincidence!  thumbup.gif

Just to let u knw, Yom Kippur begins on Sept 23rd 2015   rclxm9.gif  The coming Jubilee year is extra special.

Do u also knw, that there will have been 40 complete Jubilee cycles following Christ’s death? Cool huh?  icon_rolleyes.gif

For your info, 40 is a significant number in the Bible.
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Key words :Shemitah/Year of the Jubilee/Day of Atonement/40complete Jubilee cycles after Christ death/23th Sep 2015

And even the Managing Director of IMF Christine Lagarde ride on these belief in 2014 by predicting something big on 27th July 2015

Watch Occult Message in Speech by Christine Lagarde of IMF



Christine Lagarde hinted,

100 years since WW1
70 years since Bretton Woods
25 years since fall of the Berlin wall
7 years since the financial market jeitters

which she hinted something big going to happened on 27th July 2015. Guess with
the date just past 2 days ago and there is no financial crisis and end of the world.

As Buddhist I always find it quite a story by some christians who read the book of revelation and give some correlation to past events
that are all related. Like the especially small words written in any financial products, "The past performance would not guarantee
future performance in any similar manner" or hintsight is always 20/20


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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 29 2015, 10:12 AM)
the bible say clearly old wine and new wine cannot be mixed.

if you are from traditional church, you can't understand my teachings, and my answers are considered trolling (proven already above).

who am i ? take a look at my signature.
next question ? who are you ? are you pentecostal ?
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Yes. The Gospel and the law shouldn't be mixed because we are saved by grace through faith and not under the law anymore. I'm from Planetshakers church, affiliated with the Assemblies of God and yes, its a Pentecostal church.

I didn't realize you were teaching, if you are teaching that's good because I am sure you can answer the questions I raised. Why do we still need to pray since God knows everything.
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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Jul 29 2015, 01:53 PM)
Yes. The Gospel and the law shouldn't be mixed because we are saved by grace through faith and not under the law anymore. I'm from Planetshakers church, affiliated with the Assemblies of God and yes, its a Pentecostal church.

I didn't realize you were teaching, if you are teaching that's good because I am sure you can answer the questions I raised. Why do we still need to pray since God knows everything.
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finally i can get a relieved little bit lol...

I am not a teacher nor fulltimer smile.gif. But i use GOD's grace a lot especially in business, when grey areas are real. Things like preacher say always no, no and don't want to hear, makes me have to ask HS (holy spirit) myself to resolve day to day issues.

At the end i learned a lot thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(2malaysia @ Jul 29 2015, 01:44 PM)
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which she hinted something big going to happened on 27th July 2015. Guess with
the date just past 2 days ago and there is no financial crisis and end of the world.

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As Buddhist I always find...

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that's because the church intercede.

Things that even the most christian does not understand, so i don't expecct budhist to understand either biggrin.gif

e.g.

if church hears something bad will happen next month, we intercede that GOD will intervene to turn into good.
if church hears something good will happen next month, we intercede to break devil's plan, so GOD's plan will prosper.

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Dear Christian Brothers/Sis.

Don't throw your pearls. biggrin.gif



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Closer Than Many Think

By Daymond Duck

As I began to pray and think about what to write, my mind quickly turned to the many things that have hit the news very recently. Obviously there are many scoffers walking after their own lusts, church members and non-church members who question the promise of His coming (II Pet. 3:3-4).

But when it comes to relating current events to Bible prophecy they have a veil over their minds and they are blind to what is going on (II Cor. 3:12-16).

Concerning the battle of Gog and Magog, the P5 + 1 agreement with Iran could result in a war that will change the world (Ezek. 38-39). With the negotiations dragging on through missed deadlines and overtime sessions on July 5, 2015 it was reported that the IDF has appointed a special team to plan for a potential Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities if an attack is needed.

According to the report, Israel believed a planning team was needed at that time because the P5 +1 were close to signing an agreement that would require an Israeli military attack.

Indeed, an agreement was signed that lets Iran get a nuclear bomb in the next 3 months to 10 years depending upon whether the Mullahs keep the agreement or not; lets Iran sell oil to acquire money that can be used to strengthen its military and fund terrorism; requires Israel, the EU and others to have anti-missile systems to defend against Iranian nuclear missiles, etc.

Almost immediately, Israel’s Prime Minister Netanyahu said Israel won’t be bound by that agreement. Support for a war with Iran surged in Israel and Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia said it would wreak havoc in the already destabilized Middle East.

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Many pundits can’t understand why Pres. Obama would agree to what some are calling an insane document, but it occurs to this writer that he may be deliberately trying to destabilize the Middle East to create a crisis that will allow Globalists to bring in their cherished New World Order (world government).

Concerning the North American Union (perhaps one of the Ten Regions headed up by the Ten Kings), on July 10, 2015 it was reported that Rush Limbaugh spoke out on the controversy surrounding Donald Trump’s quest for the Republican nomination for president of the U.S.

Mr. Trump has drawn strong criticism over his opposition to sanctuary cities and the failure of government officials to deport Hispanic illegal alien criminals. Mr. Limbaugh believes the root cause of this criticism is the Globalist fear that Mr. Trump could upset the Globalist plan to surrender the sovereignty of the U.S. by merging Canada, Mexico and the U.S. into a North American Union.

According to the Bible, the rise of the Ten Kings is a prerequisite to the rise of the Antichrist (Dan. 7:8). We can look for the Confederate flag to be replaced with the American flag and that to be replaced with the NAU flag.

Concerning the division of Israel, on July 9, 2015 it was reported that the re-established Jewish Sanhedrin has threatened to put Pope Francis on trial if he doesn’t apologize for misinterpreting Bible prophecy shakehead.gif , not recognizing that God gave the Promised Land to Israel forever (Gen. 17:7-8), saying God has replaced Israel (a false doctrine called Replacement Theology) and officially recognizing the State of Palestine.

The Sanhedrin has accused the Pope of blatant anti-Semitism and it is very upset over his decision to recognize a State of Palestine which would require the division of Israel, and the removal of Jews. It is the main reason why God will drag the nations into the battle of Armageddon (Joel 3:2).

Concerning the rebuilding of the Temple, on July 12, 2015 it was reported that the Temple Institute has started a “Raise a Red Heifer in Israel Fund.” According to the Bible, a third Temple must be built in Israel before the middle of the Tribulation period (Dan. 9:27; Matt. 24:15-16; II Thess. 2:3-4; Rev. 11:1).

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Priests who build this third Temple and all who serve there must first be cleansed with water of separation containing the ashes of a sacrificed unblemished three-year old red heifer (Num. 19). So the Temple Institute has started a fund to produce and care for a red heifer without spot and blemish in Israel, which they see as a prerequisite for the building of the third Temple.

Concerning the coming economic collapse, in addition to the Greek default, Puerto Rico’s problems and the 30%+ decline in China’s stock market, on July 15, 2015 it was reported that Texas will soon establish a bank called the Texas Bullion Depository. Customers will be allowed to store precious metals (gold, silver, etc.) there and it will be protected from seizure by our broke U.S. government.

It has been an exciting 10 days and there is a lot more that can’t be covered or this article will be too long. Just know that Bible prophecy is advancing very fast and our going home may be closer than many think.



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Don't understand why you go and tag a Buddhist?

It's not like he's going to believe Bible prophecy or there's this thing going on between you and him? laugh.gif
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Don't understand why you go and tag a Buddhist?

It's not like he's going to believe Bible prophecy or there's this thing going on between you and him?  laugh.gif
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Why did Jesus gave the Law? Part 2

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Matthew 7:21(NIV) -"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."


This portion of scripture above is another favourite "misquoted out of context" by christians who belong to the older brother of the prodigal son.
Who is the older brother of the prodigal son?

If you read the Prodigal Son story, you'll find that He is the one who don't likes it when the Father throws a party to celebrate his lost son return. They want everything to be dead serious with God. If possible, jealously separating God on a high pedestal trying to stand in the way of God's children whom may have not been as obedient as he has.

Luke 15:29 (NIV) - But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends.

Look at the scorn. Some Christians are like that.

This older brother has an erroneous perception of who God is. Look at the way He responds to a loving Father in Luke 15:29. He does not have a "Doxa" Perception of the Father. Doxa is the Greek word for Glory and in my last devotion, I've showed you, the very first definition of Glory is Having a Good Opinion of God.

This older brother thinks that God wants him to have a slave or servant mentality. In other word, it's a form of self righteousness trying to earn a place before God.
But UW, how can you say that? When you have a Slave/Servant mentality before God, in other words, you are trying to please God by your performance.

A servant is like that. A Son inherits effortlessly. I believe when this older brother spoke in such a manner, the father was hurt in the heart because this son did not have a good opinion of God.
He see Him as someone separated that needs to be appeased.

And there are many christians like that today. They'll use scripture like above (Matthew 7:21) trying to separate many prodigal sons from coming close to God. Do you know why? Because they themselves feels separated from God. I believe, all that I have learned is not for me to be kept inside but to be shared to help draw every sinners, the lost, the lame, the gays, the ungodly, etc near to God.

This message is for you if you are confuse to the revelation of difficult bible verse. Today I will debunk this and lay it to rest once and for all.

Read the Text carefully.

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

When Jesus spoke this at the mount of beatitude, I believe many Jews was present. You must understand that when Christ spoke, some of the word was meant for the Jews who are steep in Judaism. God's word is not bound by time. It was for the crowd back then and also for certain crowd Today. Why did Christ gave this "condition", Not everyone who calls him Lord Lord will be saved? If you look at the following verse, " ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?"

All these speaks of the work of the kingdom. But is that the condition to enter Heaven? Oh you didn't hear me. You who shouts so loud wanting to uphold the Law so much,

Is that the condition to enter Heaven?

Lord Have I not done this for you? They are counting on a form of self righteousness just like the older brother of the prodigal son. I have done this for you therefore I qualify.
What was Jesus answer?

I never knew you. Why?

The answer is this. "only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven will enter Heaven". Before you think that the word "does the will of the Father" means upholding the Law, think again. The right question to ask is; what is the will of the Father?

Answer is here:

John 6:40 (NIV): For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

Again this points back to Grace (Jesus Christ) and not the Law. smile.gif

Hallelujah! rclxm9.gif

God Bless.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 30 2015, 09:34 AM)
Bible Devotions with UW

Why did Jesus gave the Law? Part 2
This portion of scripture above is another favourite "misquoted out of context" by christians who belong to the older brother of the prodigal son.
Who is the older brother of the prodigal son?

If you read the Prodigal Son story, you'll find that He is the one who don't likes it when the Father throws a party to celebrate his lost son return. They want everything to be dead serious with God. If possible, jealously separating God on a high pedestal trying to stand in the way of God's children whom may have not been as obedient as he has.

Luke 15:29 (NIV) - But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends.

Look at the scorn. Some Christians are like that.

This older brother has an erroneous perception of who God is. Look at the way He responds to a loving Father in Luke 15:29. He does not have a "Doxa" Perception of the Father. Doxa is the Greek word for Glory and in my last devotion, I've showed you, the very first definition of Glory is Having a Good Opinion of God.

This older brother thinks that God wants him to have a slave or servant mentality. In other word, it's a form of self righteousness trying to earn a place before God.
But UW, how can you say that? When you have a Slave/Servant mentality before God, in other words, you are trying to please God by your performance.

A servant is like that. A Son inherits effortlessly. I believe when this older brother spoke in such a manner, the father was hurt in the heart because this son did not have a good opinion of God.
He see Him as someone separated that needs to be appeased. 
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Depends on which verses you read...
slave mentality is still stressed;
1 peter 2
13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16 Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17 Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.



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And there are many christians like that today. They'll use scripture like above (Matthew 7:21) trying to separate many prodigal sons from coming close to God. Do you know why? Because they themselves feels separated from God. I believe, all that I have learned is not for me to be kept inside but to be shared to help draw every sinners, the lost, the lame, the gays, the ungodly, etc near to God.

This message is for you if you are confuse to the revelation of difficult bible verse. Today I will debunk this and lay it to rest once and for all.

Read the Text carefully.

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

When Jesus spoke this at the mount of beatitude, I believe many Jews was present. You must understand that when Christ spoke, some of the word was meant for the Jews who are steep in Judaism. God's word is not bound by time. It was for the crowd back then and also for certain crowd Today. Why did Christ gave this "condition", Not everyone who calls him Lord Lord will be saved? If you look at the following verse, " ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?"

All these speaks of the work of the kingdom. But is that the condition to enter Heaven? Oh you didn't hear me. You who shouts so loud wanting to uphold the Law so much,

Is that the condition to enter Heaven?

Lord Have I not done this for you? They are counting on a form of self righteousness just like the older brother of the prodigal son. I have done this for you therefore I qualify.
What was Jesus answer?

I never knew you.  Why?

The answer is this. "only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven will enter Heaven". Before you think that the word "does the will of the Father" means upholding the Law, think again. The right question to ask is; what is the will of the Father?

Answer is here:

John 6:40 (NIV): For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

Again this points back to Grace (Jesus Christ) and not the Law.  smile.gif

Hallelujah!  rclxm9.gif

God Bless.
Specifically, it is the civil and ceremonial laws that have been overwrite by grace whereas the moral law should be reinforced;
Galatians 5:13-14
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[a]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”


Matthew 7 further reads;
24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

It says "practice"...

And here is the second half of God's will;
1 Thessalonians 4:3-7
3 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control your own body[a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister.[cool.gif The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. 7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8 Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.

Hebrews 12:14
14 Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.



Hence in conclusion, depends on which verses you read, Christian salvation can be as hard as other religion.





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