pertamax... got the first spot

This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 5 2015, 11:49 AM

Planting scriptures are spiritual heritage, similar to peter's handkerchief in Acts 19:12.

These spiritual heritage received from other senior leaders, or from HS directly. Similar to concept of anointing, from top to bottom. Top to bottom does not always represent hierarchy, but represent networking. from people to people.

these spiritual heritage to works, you need to believe 3 things:
1. GOD gaves instruction to leader to plant scriptures. Therefore the effects / benefits, usually works on jurisdiction / spiritual authority of the leader. Meaning, only in his church or his denomination or his group only.
2. Leader happily, proudly received the instruction and share with congregation.
3. congregation happily, proudly acknowledge that planting scripture is part of the calling for they church.

So, if you go to my church and tell everybody in my church to plant scriptures as part of evangelism, you missing the first 2 points. I hope you get better picture here

But if you, independently, open your church or cell group, then you can tell your member to believe in scripture planting, because you are no 1, 2 and 3 in yourself. Your member should be no 3.

my case --
i have a lot of spiritual heritage that i received from many church denomination. e.g. planting scriptures, prosperity gospel, jobel declaration, bread / wine, etc..etc..
Now because i married, i gave all my spiritual heritage to my family. I tell my family please respect local church regulation because some of the spiritual heritage are not complying with local church regulation.

This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 5 2015, 04:50 PM

The lady is not helping you because she generates negative energy, and you ended up bitter. Bitterness always multiplies negative energy. This time, bitterness comes from your "source of hope" which is prayer tower.

take a look at these verses about negative people:
http://www.openbible.info/topics/negative_people


About prayer mindset

Mark 11:24
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

I have assumptions: you are focus on the lacking instead of believe you already received the answers. Question: Am I correct ?

This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 6 2015, 10:04 AM

no i am not, but if i am in singapore, i will attend

btw: my resources about prosperity gospel is below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith

some churches in malaysia agree with what it teaches in essence.

This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 6 2015, 05:44 PM

long time no see ? how is the conference ?

Blind Faith ?

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/bli.../#post-68080514

online ? using webex ? or just watch youtube ?

Different denomination different reply and each claim to be the correct one.

btw: what denomination are you coming from ?

go back to scripture ? or go back to denomination thinking ?

Christian pleasure or GOD's pleasure ?

for Mr A. It's GOD's pleasure if he drinks and hangout in bar so he can know about his future ministry. reaching out people in bar.
for Mr B. It's GOD's pleasure to abstain from drinking bir ?

GOD's pleasure ? Mr A or Mr B ?

This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 15 2015, 07:58 AM

the sufferings always temporary... i know it's easy just to talk / write, and i may not display empathy properly.
I pray that u get well too

perhaps this prayer is best: Thank GOD i can have a meeting with her. If she's my GF than thank GOD, if she's not my GF than thank GOD. I know whatever yes / no scenario you are always in control and you will bring the best of every scenario regardless yes / no replies.

Try to maintain positive attitude toward JESUS and like paul in Philippians 4:11 (some part only)
I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances

who can comprehend GOD's mind ? just trust HIS instruction lah... don't evaluate GOD ... unless you don't trust GOD well, it's different story

ok fine.. let's start 1 by 1. What i know is, there are 2 difference between (red and blue below)
Christian pleasure
and
GOD pleasure

i think, or i assume: Tina thinks there is no difference between Christian pleasure and GOD pleasure.

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I can explain the difference if you want ... let me know.

Ok last one, put worldly pleasure aside. because it's irrelevant.

Christian pleasure is not from Jesus Christ.
Christian pleasure is what tina thinking is from Christ
GOD's pleasure is from Jesus Christ.

I think you know the book man from mars and women from venus right ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Are_from_..._Are_from_Venus

the book is about relationship between man and women
bible say: Christ and church often represent by husband and wife.

if earthly husband and wife often miscommunication, how about "heavenly husband and wife" ?

JESUS has HIS mind about Christian pleasure
Tina has her mind about Christian pleasure.

if 2 entities (Tina and JESUS) thinking about Christian pleasure, how to make sure JESUS and Tina are thinking the same Christian pleasure ?

no other choice except 2 way communications right ?

-- to conclude:
1. worldly pleasure - no
2. christian pleasure - fake
3. GOD's pleasure - eternity.

GOD's pleasure for Mr A to go to bar for abcd reasons.
GOD's pleasure for Mr B not to go to bar for abcd reasons.

Do you know what is GOD's pleasure today ?

This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 16 2015, 03:23 PM

Without communication, no relationship



This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 16 2015, 07:37 AM

This is forum, it's open, everybody can give opinions. If i quote you, you may not accept my answers, but others who may have similar problem may be blessed.
I answered for the sake of silent reader who may have similar problem like yours.

https://bible.org/seriespage/8-husbands-and...lossians-318-19

why life seems to hit you hard all the times ?

we both have JESUS.

i don't know you well, but from all your post, all i can say you have a lot of problems, and looks like GOD is not helping you at all. I mean c'mon... our GOD is JESUS right ? If JESUS can help me, HE can help you too...

why life seems to hit you hard all the times ?

ok will do. GOD I pray that wujoy9 will able to see that GOD is bigger than all wujoy9 problems. Problems are temporary, but GOD is everlasting. In Jesus name we prayed and agree: Amin !

Thanks, i am not looking for winning, but to express what is inside my head.
I think you know me right ? i always say you can keep your version of truth, i keep my version of truth...

after pray...pray...pray...pray...pray... finally i got the bible verse to display my case:

Matthew 10:37New International Version (NIV)
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Exodus 20:12
"Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
Ephesians 6:1
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right


case study:
a daughter with boyfriend goes to bible study . The father already tell before that by 10PM must be at home. Well guess what... the bible study start at 7PM and continues with prayer night meetings. It all goes allll until 2AM in the morning.

Question:
which one is christian pleasure ? to obey parent ? or to pray the whole night ?

That is why in introduced word GOD's pleasure:
For Miss A, GOD wants her to keep praying and just sms the father telling that she has to attend prayer meeting until completed.
for Miss B, GOD wants her to go home and obey her father.

so if Miss A decided to go home, it's not GOD's pleasure but still Christian pleasure. Obeying parent is christian pleasure right ?
so if Miss B decided to use matthew 10:37, it's not GOD's pleasure but still Christian pleasure. praying and bible study is christian pleasure right ?

--- i hope you understand what's inside my head. Thanks for being patience

This post has been edited by de1929: Jun 17 2015, 08:31 PM