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onomatopoeia
post Jul 28 2015, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 27 2015, 11:03 PM)
lets not get ahead of urself. the topic of the day is about whether or not we can still get saved after our death and departure from this world.

we weren't even discussing about prosperity gospel or wateva. Why are u deflecting?
No one can be saved after death without believing in Jesus Christ. I think that's the foundation of the whole new testament.
If we can pray to God so that everyone can be saved, how good is that but unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. This is why we have to share the gospel before the person leave us.

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Only God knows our heart whether we truly believe in him. Judging is not right as well, but its good that we seek the truth in the bible, as that will delight God the most. Whether you are a pastor or a preacher, everything is back to the bible. Many Christians nowadays saying "My pastor says this, my pastor says that", that church preaching that, my father told me ..., instead of according to the bible, this and that.

As for the poor/poverty gospel issue, I'm just picking of two verses from Matthew.

Matthew 19:21
"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Matthew 19:23
"Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Does cherry picking the two verses shows that we have to be poor?

In b4 someone quoted me "Onomatopoeia says we have to be poor to be a christian"

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onomatopoeia
post Jul 29 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 28 2015, 08:00 PM)
instead of disrespecting man of GOD and bring curse to your self ?

why don't you pray and fast so anything that's not from heavenly father will be removed ?

don't tell me you don't believe in power of prayer
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Well, there is power in prayer but I am sure they are certain extent because we are limited, but our God is limitless. Let me ask you a few questions:

1. Can I pray once that Holy spirit will pray on behalf of us, so that we don't have to pray anymore?
2. Since pastor is praying for us why do we still have to pray?
3. Since God knows everything, why do we have to pray?

If we start to exercise our logic, instead of faith and truth, in the end we can form our own beliefs. I am not saying who is right and wrong, and whether we pray for the death that he will receive salvation is impossible, because I am not God. No one knows whether those are saved will go to Heaven anyways. Through salvation and belief in Jesus, how sure we are we will have eternal life?

In summary, God wants everyone to be saved too.

1 Timothy 2:3-4
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

The keyword is "The truth", which I believe is referring to the bible.
onomatopoeia
post Jul 29 2015, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 29 2015, 10:12 AM)
the bible say clearly old wine and new wine cannot be mixed.

if you are from traditional church, you can't understand my teachings, and my answers are considered trolling (proven already above).

who am i ? take a look at my signature.
next question ? who are you ? are you pentecostal ?
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Yes. The Gospel and the law shouldn't be mixed because we are saved by grace through faith and not under the law anymore. I'm from Planetshakers church, affiliated with the Assemblies of God and yes, its a Pentecostal church.

I didn't realize you were teaching, if you are teaching that's good because I am sure you can answer the questions I raised. Why do we still need to pray since God knows everything.

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