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de1929
post Jul 31 2015, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 04:28 PM)
Sorry to interrupt your debate with a prayer request.

This time it's for me.
I've had issues for a while, but I didn't want to trouble anyone. Pride, that I can take care of it myself I guess.

But I had a very disturbing nightmare. Asking for details is difficult since nightmares tend to get pretty vague once you wake up.

It has something to do with my personal feelings. My lack of value.
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let's address 1 by 1, start with pride.

If GOD told you: "You are good, I am proud of you sophiera, enough with asking ppl help". Then it's an encouragement. GOD knows you are strong.

If (whoever not GOD usually devil) told you: "You are good, I am proud of you sophiera, enough with asking ppl help". Then it's a pride. Devil knows you have insecurity so devil manipulates you.

same english, different speaker.

My question, who tell you you are prideful ?
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 04:28 PM)
Sorry to interrupt your debate with a prayer request.

This time it's for me.
I've had issues for a while, but I didn't want to trouble anyone. Pride, that I can take care of it myself I guess.

But I had a very disturbing nightmare. Asking for details is difficult since nightmares tend to get pretty vague once you wake up.

It has something to do with my personal feelings. My lack of value.
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Have you try calling "O Lord Jesus!" loudly from your being (spirit)?
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post Jul 31 2015, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 31 2015, 05:38 PM)
let's address 1 by 1, start with pride.

If GOD told you: "You are good, I am proud of you sophiera, enough with asking ppl help". Then it's an encouragement. GOD knows you are strong.

If (whoever not GOD usually devil) told you: "You are good, I am proud of you sophiera, enough with asking ppl help". Then it's a pride. Devil knows you have insecurity so devil manipulates you.

same english, different speaker.

My question, who tell you you are prideful ?
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Hello.....she didn't say she's having problems with pride la! She's been having very bad nightmares la! aiyo! That's the main issue!

Stop stirring confusion every time u post pls! vmad.gif mad.gif

No wonder you always interpret the Bible out of context when your English comprehension is so poor doh.gif doh.gif

Did u go to school or not back in Indonesia, whn u were a boy? laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2015, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 04:28 PM)
Sorry to interrupt your debate with a prayer request.

This time it's for me.
I've had issues for a while, but I didn't want to trouble anyone. Pride, that I can take care of it myself I guess.

But I had a very disturbing nightmare. Asking for details is difficult since nightmares tend to get pretty vague once you wake up.

It has something to do with my personal feelings. My lack of value.
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jul 31 2015, 05:51 PM)
Have you try calling "O Lord Jesus!" loudly from your being (spirit)?
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It could just be a random nightmare or spiritual attacks. This is normally what i do :

- when i'm in the forest, fishing @ night spots or dark areas, i will always say out loud " in the name of Jesus, depart evil spirits!".

Then only i will take a piss.


- When i suddenly get jolted out of a nightmare in the middle of the night & i feel troubled, i whisper a quick prayer. I make it audible. You are covered by the blood of Christ. you will b okay icon_rolleyes.gif


Finally, there's this uncle in church who always pray to God to 'lay claim' to his hotel room(upon entry) whenever he travels outstation.
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post Jul 31 2015, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 31 2015, 07:18 PM)
Hello.....she didn't say she's having problems with pride la! She's been having very bad nightmares la! aiyo!  That's the main issue!

Stop stirring confusion every time u post pls!  vmad.gif  mad.gif

No wonder you always interpret the Bible out of context when your English comprehension is so poor   doh.gif  doh.gif

Did u go to school or not back in Indonesia, whn u were a boy?  laugh.gif
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perhaps you are a blind person.. did i wrote 1-by-1 ?

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post Jul 31 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jul 31 2015, 05:51 PM)
Have you try calling "O Lord Jesus!" loudly from your being (spirit)?
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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 31 2015, 07:25 PM)
It could just be a random nightmare or spiritual attacks. This is normally what i do :

- when i'm in the forest, fishing @ night spots or dark areas, i will always say out loud " in the name of Jesus, depart evil spirits!".

      Then only i will take a piss.
-  When i suddenly get jolted out of a nightmare in the middle of the night & i feel troubled, i whisper a quick prayer. I make it audible. You are covered by the blood of Christ. you will b okay  icon_rolleyes.gif
Finally, there's this uncle in church who always pray to God to 'lay claim' to his hotel room(upon entry)  whenever he travels outstation.
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Making a loud proclamation turns me into an embarrassed pile of goo seconds later. Besides I don't live alone it would be damn awkward.

Very uncomfortable.
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post Jul 31 2015, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 04:28 PM)
Sorry to interrupt your debate with a prayer request.

This time it's for me.
I've had issues for a while, but I didn't want to trouble anyone. Pride, that I can take care of it myself I guess.

But I had a very disturbing nightmare. Asking for details is difficult since nightmares tend to get pretty vague once you wake up.

It has something to do with my personal feelings. My lack of value.
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Lack of value before who? yourself? God?
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post Jul 31 2015, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 31 2015, 08:33 PM)
Lack of value before who? yourself? God?
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Mana boleh say God no value tongue.gif

Of course it's myself.
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post Jul 31 2015, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 08:45 PM)
Mana boleh say God no value tongue.gif

Of course it's myself.
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no I mean you feel you have no value before God or you judge yourself to have no value in the dream?


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post Jul 31 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 31 2015, 08:49 PM)
no I mean you feel you have no value before God or you judge yourself to have no value in the dream?
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Both? Dreams are mostly subconsious anyway.

It's the feeling of, well, why am I even alive? Every day, some form of physical pain. Despite efforts to stay healthy, still pain

Ada period pain, no period also pain. Every day has a pain of some kind...

I can't do anything, nor I can be anything other than pain.
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post Jul 31 2015, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 08:53 PM)
Both? Dreams are mostly subconsious anyway.

It's the feeling of, well, why am I even alive? Every day, some form of physical pain. Despite efforts to stay healthy, still pain

Ada period pain, no period also pain. Every day has a pain of some kind...

I can't do anything, nor I can be anything other than pain.
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You have physical ailment?
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post Jul 31 2015, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 31 2015, 09:09 PM)
You have physical ailment?
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Quite a few. Had doctors confirm it. I don't want to list them in public though.

But few people would believe me, let alone accommodate. Because it's not like I'm a cancer patient need to masuk wad and stuff. The people who really understand can dikira with fingers. My teacher/boss think I'm just being a spoiled brat that won't amount to anything.

I just, well, ignore the pain as much as I can to live.

Just. I'm tired of it. Imagine tight chains squeezing the joints, bones, muscles. Tidur also tak pasal pasal get painful spasms.

My parents do their best to help. That duty will one day end up with my future husband. He's willing to do it and I know he got the perseverance.

Still this makes me feel like a giant lifelong burden to anyone close to me.
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post Jul 31 2015, 09:32 PM

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It is difficult to eat. Painful to not eat either. Stiff and hurtful to move. Basic chores takes as much effort as climbing a mountain.

Everything is literally san fu
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post Jul 31 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 09:29 PM)
Quite a few. Had doctors confirm it. I don't want to list them in public though.

But few people would believe me, let alone accommodate. Because it's not like I'm a cancer patient need to masuk wad and stuff. The people who really understand can dikira with fingers. My teacher/boss think I'm just being a spoiled brat that won't amount to anything.

I just, well, ignore the pain as much as I can to live.

Just. I'm tired of it. Imagine tight chains squeezing the joints, bones, muscles. Tidur also tak pasal pasal get painful spasms.

My parents do their best to help. That duty will one day end up with my future husband. He's willing to do it and I know he got the perseverance.

Still this makes me feel like a giant lifelong burden to anyone close to me.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 09:32 PM)
It is difficult to eat. Painful to not eat either. Stiff and hurtful to move. Basic chores takes as much effort as climbing a mountain.

Everything is literally san fu
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This just reminds me how seriously fallen our world is, it has caused so much pain for some people.

I don't know what to say to console you.

All I can say is, cling on to Jesus tight. Believe in Him. He's not angry at you. He can heal you, it has happened to other people.
You need to talk to Christians who has gone through equally agonizing health situation but have been healed for the courage to believe for healing.
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post Jul 31 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 31 2015, 09:47 PM)
This just reminds me how seriously fallen our world is, it has caused so much pain for some people.

I don't know what to say to console you.

All I can say is, cling on to Jesus tight. Believe in Him. He's not angry at you. He can heal you, it has happened to other people.
You need to talk to Christians who has gone through equally agonizing health situation but have been healed for the courage to believe for healing.
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Well... about that....

I can barely leave the house, let alone meet people. Kinda an egg and chicken issue.

And I don't want to be the source for a massive disappointment anymore. No expectations mean no hope, means no let downs too. I've already disappointed too many people.


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post Jul 31 2015, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 31 2015, 12:02 AM)
A German who can speak German( rolleyes.gif ), Malay, Japanese, Mandarin, English & no doubt a smattering of French & Italian too  rclxms.gif

u a spy or something?  hmm.gif

Knowing what i know now, if i was given a choice, i would have picked up Hebrew & Greek if i was young again  sad.gif

Anyway, to answer your question, no, we don't celebrate these Jewish feasts.

However, both the Gentiles & Jews play a crucial part in the Saviour's salvation plan.

If u read up on Daniel's 70th week, there's stil 1 wk left to run. A week is 7 years in Biblical terms.

Something happened at the end of the 69th week.

God's love affair with the apple of his eye, Israel is currently on 'pause' at the moment.

We are currently living in the church age. Once this dispensation ends with the ἁρπάζωharpazo  , God will resume his love affair with His chosen people.

While at the same time, God will deal with the unbelieving world. It's called the time of Jacob's trouble.

I'm not posting for fun, there COULD be something in it for us. Wait for my subsequent posts.


"And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." -  Luke 21:28


"And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." - Mark 13:37
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Yeah, I'm spying on unknown warrior. brows.gif

JK dude.

Well, you know I like to learn new languages all the time. Nah, I can't speak French and Italian.

You forgot Russian and Dutch. tongue.gif

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You gotta be kidding me? A week is 7 years! hmm.gif
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post Jul 31 2015, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 31 2015, 07:18 PM)
Hello.....she didn't say she's having problems with pride la! She's been having very bad nightmares la! aiyo!  That's the main issue!

Stop stirring confusion every time u post pls!  vmad.gif  mad.gif

No wonder you always interpret the Bible out of context when your English comprehension is so poor  doh.gif  doh.gif

Did u go to school or not back in Indonesia, whn u were a boy?  laugh.gif
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Mungkin bapa de1929 sekolahnya sampai tadika. brows.gif

Bapa de1929 jangan marah ya.

QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 31 2015, 08:01 PM)
perhaps you are a blind person.. did i wrote 1-by-1 ?
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Well you did wrote 1 by 1. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 08:53 PM)
Both? Dreams are mostly subconsious anyway.

It's the feeling of, well, why am I even alive? Every day, some form of physical pain. Despite efforts to stay healthy, still pain

Ada period pain, no period also pain. Every day has a pain of some kind...

I can't do anything, nor I can be anything other than pain.
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Oh God, period pain is the worst. vmad.gif

I hope God will heal you of your problems.
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post Aug 1 2015, 12:15 AM

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It so happened, this song is in my spotify list.

Listen and take it to heart. Sing it seriously as a form of worship.
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QUOTE(loud @ Jul 31 2015, 02:10 PM)
Yes, it is not necessary about physical activity but more important is to introduce new mental habits because a person can do good deeds with an ill intention in his mind...we can agree on this part but most of what you wrote somehow contradict even your own doctrine. According to the bible, faith does not spontaneously leads to holiness, it requires mutual support by conscious effort in holding up moral values.

Reanalysing Hebrews 12
It says 14 Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.

It does not say "make every effort to rest in God so that holiness will manifest naturally"
Your previous post say we need grace to live right but now you say we don't need God's intervention about it.
I just red Galatians 3:24 and it say the law is a Guardian pulak... ohmy.gif

But in practical sense i agree with you we don't necessary need the HS or law because our nature is capable of loving. The only thing that is distorting it is our self-delusion aka ego/conceit and there are many sensible ways of purifying the mental state without having to invoke a personal God.
I'm not sure if there is any verse that specifically stated that credited righteousness refers to a special position/status.
Even if so, it is still mutually related to one's mental state since you claim that one's character will be altered to match it. However, this argument also exposed its downside. There are also verses that indicates the failure of the mind to keep up with God's extra will can somehow jeopardize those position/status. For example, Cain did believed and worship God but his was rejected on the basis of failing to please God. This again shows that faith alone does not naturally or necessary leads to other fulfillment.
Therefore other instructions are made clear;
1 john 3
10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous.

13 Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother[c] abides in death. 15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.


If go by your premise, Cain shall be equally righteous as Abel since they both believe and worship God therefore God credited righteousness to them??
I don't think there is any reason to say grace is not available before the new covenant because Abraham, Noah, Moses and many other believers did received it...
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Actually may I know what is your point, the objective you're trying to achieve?

Why I ask this, is because you don't even believe there is a God. I don't see the reason why you would want to pursue further into the details base on the first premise.

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post Aug 1 2015, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 31 2015, 10:11 PM)
Well... about that....

I can barely leave the house, let alone meet people. Kinda an egg and chicken issue.

And I don't want to be the source for a massive disappointment anymore. No expectations mean no hope, means no let downs too. I've already disappointed too many people.
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Sophie, your faith is between you and God, it is not to please other people's expectation.

It's a matter of whether you want it.

What I mean is this. In class room full of people, I hand out a RM100.00 freely, with no catch, no condition whatsoever to whomever who wants it.

Question is, are you that determined to get out of your chair to take it? Or you're not going to bother?

Think of the Woman with the issue of blood in the Bible, what made her, risk her life despite of her chronic condition (it pains her to take every step physically) reaching out for Jesus.
To touch the hem of jesus's garment. Just think deeply of this story, why it's there, what it means.

How do I rephrase this? I mean, how bad you want this that you don't mind to look like a fool for believing not ashamed of Jesus Christ.

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