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engyr
post Sep 29 2019, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 29 2019, 08:07 AM)
My in law want to support his relative, and instend buy ut for my child. So I no idea which public fund to go. Prob is the relative still new. My in law plan is just monthly rm200 for maybe 5 years.
So any sifu suggestion.
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Can consider bond fund or money market fund. Bond fund 1% sales charge, money market fund 0% sales charges.

Equity fund sales charge 5.5%. Not easy to earn after deduct 5.5% sales charge. Whether you earn or lost money, your agent will earn. I was so regret to buy equity fund.
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post Sep 29 2019, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(engyr @ Sep 29 2019, 09:33 AM)
Can consider bond fund or money market fund. Bond fund 1% sales charge, money market fund 0% sales charges.

Equity fund sales charge 5.5%. Not easy to earn after deduct 5.5% sales charge. Whether you earn or lost money, your agent will earn. I was so regret to buy equity fund.
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So any product recomend for bond, money market or equity. The amount investniw not big, monthly purcha se aroudn 200 for maybe 10 years.
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post Sep 29 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 29 2019, 01:58 PM)
So any product recomend for bond, money market or equity. The amount investniw not big, monthly purcha se aroudn 200 for maybe 10 years.
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Only invest at the things that you know well.

Since you are making favour for your relative, you can ask him for product prospectus & annual report.
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post Oct 4 2019, 07:02 PM

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HI, would like to know what 'distribution is in the form of cash' means? Does it mean once distribution date come, it will bank in the dividend/interest directly to my bank account? i saw this type of distribution in bond fund. Thanks.
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post Oct 4 2019, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(coolbuddha91 @ Oct 4 2019, 07:02 PM)
HI, would like to know what 'distribution is in the form of cash' means? Does it mean once distribution date come, it will bank in the dividend/interest directly to my bank account? i saw this type of distribution in bond fund. Thanks.
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read this while you wait for responses?
hope you could get some info from it while you wait

https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...A%3d&portalid=0


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post Oct 6 2019, 09:11 PM

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Anyone invested in Public Index Fund ? Mine shows -6k. Scary. Should I withdraw it ?
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post Oct 6 2019, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(boldsouljah @ Oct 6 2019, 09:11 PM)
Anyone invested in Public Index Fund ? Mine shows -6k. Scary. Should I withdraw it ?
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how much have you invested to be able to lose RM6k?
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post Oct 6 2019, 09:28 PM

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how much have you invested to be able to lose RM6k?
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RM74k
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post Oct 6 2019, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(boldsouljah @ Oct 6 2019, 09:28 PM)
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hmm.gif invested 74k now is 68K losing 6k
that is about 8.1% if MINUS 5.5% SC....loses is about 2.6%?
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post Oct 6 2019, 09:37 PM

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Better pun in sspn. Around 4 ++ interest plus income taxes decision rm6k
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post Oct 6 2019, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 6 2019, 09:36 PM)
hmm.gif invested 74k now is 68K losing 6k
that is about 8.1% if MINUS 5.5% SC....loses is about 2.6%?
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Sorry, mine is the EPF scheme. I have been putting money into PM from my EPF for the past 7 years, So now i have around 74k, and it shows Total Returns : -RM6454
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post Oct 6 2019, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(boldsouljah @ Oct 6 2019, 09:47 PM)
Sorry, mine is the EPF scheme. I have been putting money into PM from my EPF for the past 7 years, So now i have around 74k, and it shows Total Returns : -RM6454
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Epf annual return range from 5.7-6.9%.
Here you lost 8.7%. Wait for klse goes up then shift back to epf.

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post Oct 6 2019, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(boldsouljah @ Oct 6 2019, 09:47 PM)
Sorry, mine is the EPF scheme. I have been putting money into PM from my EPF for the past 7 years, So now i have around 74k, and it shows Total Returns : -RM6454
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hmm.gif Sales charge for EPF is 3%.....
past 7 yrs doing periodic reinvestment....
with minus 8% ROI......It will be a tough nut to beat if were to includes the cumulation of the yearly 6% opportunity cost
may I suggest you stop the reinvestment but invest into some other fund or just stop taking out the money from EPF to earn 6%

btw, did you do the calculation of profit/losses by yourself?

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post Oct 6 2019, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 6 2019, 09:57 PM)
hmm.gif Sales charge for EPF is 3%.....
past 7 yrs doing periodic reinvestment....
with minus 8% ROI......It will be a tough nut to beat if were to includes the cumulation of the yearly 6% opportunity cost
may I suggest you stop the reinvestment but invest into some other fund or just stop taking out the money from EPF to earn 6%

btw, did you do the calculation of profit/losses by yourself?
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Using the latets KWSP's Investment portal it says this :

Unrealised Profit/Loss (%)
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5625.91(-4.99%)

Total : 107k.


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QUOTE(boldsouljah @ Oct 6 2019, 10:17 PM)
Using the latets KWSP's Investment portal it says this :

Unrealised Profit/Loss (%)
MYR
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5625.91(-4.99%)

Total : 107k.
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I am not sure about the display from KWSP....
you mentioned total about 74K...here it shows 107K
wondering why?? confused.gif

...if you have opened a PMOnline registration....goto PMO website to login and check the status?
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post Oct 6 2019, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 6 2019, 10:30 PM)
I am not sure about the display from KWSP....
you mentioned total about 74K...here it shows 107K
wondering why?? confused.gif

...if you have opened a PMOnline registration....goto PMO website to login and check the status?
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76k is just from Public Index Fund, i have more $$ in few other funds (Public Global,etc). So the total is 107k from EPF, Public Index Fund has the highest $$ with 76k.
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post Oct 6 2019, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(boldsouljah @ Oct 6 2019, 10:36 PM)
76k is just from Public Index Fund, i have more $$ in few other funds (Public Global,etc). So the total is 107k from EPF, Public Index Fund has the highest $$ with 76k.
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so that 6k losses is/maybe most probably from that few other funds too (Public Global, etc, etc funds)?

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post Oct 6 2019, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(boldsouljah @ Oct 6 2019, 09:11 PM)
Anyone invested in Public Index Fund ? Mine shows -6k. Scary. Should I withdraw it ?
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The fund mandate is too inflexible, and fund value has not gone up since 2013.

Terrible fund. Yes, dump.
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post Oct 6 2019, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 6 2019, 10:42 PM)
so that 6k losses is/maybe most probably from that few other funds too (Public Global, etc, etc funds)?
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Not really..

Fund 1 (Public Index Fund) Lost RM6.7k
Fund 2 Made RM50
Fund 3 Made RM1.1k
Fund 4 Lost RM127.

So in total lost of around 5.5k
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post Oct 6 2019, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Oct 6 2019, 11:00 PM)
The fund mandate is too inflexible, and fund value has not gone up since 2013.

Terrible fund. Yes, dump.
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When you say dump, you mean bring back the cash to EPF and lose RM6.7k.
No chance for this value to go up at all? (For Public Index Fund) ?

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