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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V9!

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post May 12 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 01:39 PM)
Asus Maximus VII Ranger is using same sound card as PRO GAMER, Gryphon z97 is M-ATX mobo and using realtek sound card.

Asus products are having "premium" price here, if you want to get best value mobo, go for Asrock, it's always cheaper than other brands and quite reliable, but the Gigabyte Z97X GAming 5 and Asus Z97 PRO GAMER both are almost same price.
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX750 1GB GDDR5 OC - RM 419
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Windows 7 Pro OEM - RM 200

Total: RM 1918.32 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet, Windows genuine copy is from Idealtech)
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So which Asrock z97 provides at least the same or more features compare to this premium brands?
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post May 12 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 02:03 PM)
So which Asrock z97 provides at least the same or more features compare to this premium brands?
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If you are looking for good onboard sound card and overclocking ability, just pick the Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, Asrock Extreme 4 which is about the same price point only using realtek sound card.
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post May 12 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 02:52 PM)
If you are looking for good onboard sound card and overclocking ability, just pick the Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, Asrock Extreme 4 which is about the same price point only using realtek sound card.
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so all Arock z97 only using realtek sound card where as only Asus Z97 Pro Gamer and above use the better supremeXF sound card? hmm.gif
what about gigabyte?
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post May 12 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 02:57 PM)
so all Arock z97 only using realtek sound card where as only Asus Z97 Pro Gamer and above use the better supremeXF sound card? hmm.gif
what about gigabyte?
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If comparing with same price point with Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, it is the only one with custom SupremeFX sound card, Gigabyte also using realtek one.
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post May 12 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(TheDeadlySins420 @ May 11 2015, 01:40 PM)
Feel like to change MSI SLI Krait to ASUS Maximus VII Hero hmm.gif
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Not worth it.Costs around RM1k,but you only need the Z97 for 2 PCI-E x16 slots to run dual cards..in which MSI Z97-SLI Krait has and is the cheapest AFAIK.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 03:42 PM)
If comparing with same price point with Asus Z97 PRO GAMER, it is the only one with custom SupremeFX sound card, Gigabyte also using realtek one.
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is the Realtek ALC1150 that bad? because i am quite impressed with the rich features of Asrock z97 series for that price. lol. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 04:42 PM)
is the Realtek ALC1150 that bad? because i am quite impressed with the rich features of Asrock z97 series for that price. lol. tongue.gif
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I am fine with that, the quality isn't that bad afterall.
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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 12 2015, 04:42 PM)
is the Realtek ALC1150 that bad? because i am quite impressed with the rich features of Asrock z97 series for that price. lol. tongue.gif
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There was a very detailed explanation by SSJBen regarding the ALC1150 before. smile.gif
QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 18 2015, 05:22 PM)
The motherboards from the last couple of years has been starting to at least make some strides in audio quality. ALC1150 is actually a pretty decent DAC, but having the DAC itself is only part of a whole audio solution. How it is implemented (with the right caps, the amp for stage out, channel inputs/out, etc.) is also crucial to how good a DAC sound.

One of the best DACs on the market now a days is still the ESS9018 and without proper implementation, I can guarantee that it won't sound better than an average entry level DAC. That said, DACs now a days sounds pretty similar to one another. It's not a very significant difference, noticeable but never night and day.

To answer your question, the ALC1150 (I assume you're talking about this DAC as most "gaming" mobos uses this) is a warmish sounding DAC, not overly warm though. In comparison to say a Creative SBZ, it uses a Cirrus Logic CS4398, it's warmer than the ALC1150 in sound signature, which usually means more depth (and bloat) in bass. Which is better is up to your ears to decide, but if you ask me if they are comparable then I'd say yes.

Obviously the SBZ has a better implementation and comes with Creative's SBX software.  We are getting closer to the day where I think most gamers who actually care about audio quality would not need anything more than the standard ALC1150 on their mobo. There are still some flaws even on the most expensive "gaming" motherboard now, once they fix this then I think most gamers should be in for a good audio treat.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3497368/+40?hl=ALC1150
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 12 2015, 04:53 PM)
There was a very detailed explanation by SSJBen regarding the ALC1150 before. smile.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3497368/+40?hl=ALC1150
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thx! that is very enlightening. so guys, if soundcard is not the priority, i think asrock is quite bang for the buck. should i go for Extreme6, z97 killer or z97x killer?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 12 2015, 01:39 PM)
Asus Maximus VII Ranger is using same sound card as PRO GAMER, Gryphon z97 is M-ATX mobo and using realtek sound card.

Asus products are having "premium" price here, if you want to get best value mobo, go for Asrock, it's always cheaper than other brands and quite reliable, but the Gigabyte Z97X GAming 5 and Asus Z97 PRO GAMER both are almost same price.
Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 398.56
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX750 1GB GDDR5 OC - RM 419
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 199
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Windows 7 Pro OEM - RM 200

Total: RM 1918.32 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest without cents is from Viewnet, Windows genuine copy is from Idealtech)
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Why not upgrade the GTX 750 Ti to the 2GB edition or get the R7 265 instead?
Also, I think can upgrade the Intel Core i3 4150 to Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz at RM670-ish.

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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 12 2015, 05:45 PM)
Why not upgrade the GTX 750 Ti to the 2GB edition or get the R7 265 instead?
Also, I think can upgrade the Intel Core i3 4150 to Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz at RM670-ish.
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The GPU terence_nwb suggested is GTX750,not GTX750Ti. tongue.gif Ti is its brother.


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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 12 2015, 05:47 PM)
The GPU terence_nwb suggested is GTX750,not GTX750Ti. tongue.gif Ti is its brother.
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Haha, yeah, I mean the guy who asked for the suggestion said he can expand to 2.5k of budget, hence I suggested to give it an upgrade of the i5 and going for the 750 Ti 2GB OC version or the R7 265 instead. Would make it a much better setup. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 12 2015, 05:45 PM)
Why not upgrade the GTX 750 Ti to the 2GB edition or get the R7 265 instead?
Also, I think can upgrade the Intel Core i3 4150 to Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz at RM670-ish.
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He requested a build below 2k, if change the GPU and processor, it would be more than 2.5k.
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hey, I need some advice on GPU

i5 4460
msi B85M-G43
Corsair vengeance 4G x 2
WD Blue 1T
EVGA 500W
windows 7

Budget 500 - 600 RM

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QUOTE(ashwin89 @ May 12 2015, 09:57 PM)
hey, I need some advice on GPU

i5 4460
msi B85M-G43
Corsair vengeance 4G x 2
WD Blue 1T
EVGA 500W
windows 7

Budget 500 - 600 RM
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Sapphire R7 265 Dual-X
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Hi, need recomendation on laptop selection for my nephew as she is going to college soon.

Budget: RM 2k max

Personal preferences: i5 for processor, with optical drive, screen 14 inch or bigger, with OS.

Thanks.
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post May 13 2015, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(kyo_shilang @ May 13 2015, 12:23 AM)
Hi, need recomendation on laptop selection for my nephew as she is going to college soon.

Budget: RM 2k max

Personal preferences: i5 for processor, with optical drive, screen 14 inch or bigger, with OS.

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post May 13 2015, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 13 2015, 12:37 AM)
Wrong thread
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Sorry. Just noticed there are different thread for laptop.
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post May 13 2015, 02:51 AM

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[Budget] RM4k

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] nope

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] gta5 cod advanced warfare

[Personal preferences] intel i7 4790k, gtx960 4gb or gtx970, include casing and monitor

[Location] kl

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QUOTE(Pcdesktop @ May 13 2015, 02:51 AM)
[Budget] RM4k

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] nope

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] gta5 cod advanced warfare

[Personal preferences] intel i7 4790k, gtx960 4gb or gtx970, include casing and monitor

[Location] kl
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It's 4oclock and I too lazy to come out with my own build, so I borrowed and modded from Minecrafer's build here.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=74314246
Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM954
Asrock H97 Pro4 RM330
Gainward Phantom GTX970 RM1325
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM229
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM199
Seasonic M12II Evo 520W 80+ Bronze Fully Modular RM299
Budget case RM200
Samsung S22C170BS RM402.80
Logitech Wired K120 Keyboard RM29
Total: RM4k+/-

If you seriously want to squeeze in a SSD in the same budget, get non-phantom GTX970 (save RM50), find sub RM100 OEM case, get H97m/H87 (save another RM20-50) and try nego with the shop.

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