Ya im doubtful of that. I've read about so much different stories about it. Some suggest OEM can port over. Some suggest otherwise. Wins10 is releasing this year right?

For AMD setup maybe can use cap ayam LoL, if the Intel probably need it coz have gc.

Thanks for the info, I'll survey with the local shop here on pricing, I'm in JB, maybe price a bit different.

Btw what the difference between G3250 & G3258?

This post has been edited by mrbs84: May 26 2015, 08:50 PM

Yup,Windows 10 is releasing this year,probably around July-September.

I read around and suggest that none of the current GPU able to be beneficial frm 3.0 and doesnt offet much different performance from 2.0 even if a pcie 3 card slotted into 2.0 slot

Does those shops build rig poorly? Maybe no cable management?
Is FSP hexa+ 450 good then?

all depend on u if u want pcie 2.0 nobody can stop u.

i personally don't trust lowyat ppl to build my rig. mostly all negative minded & working hours so long while take bit salary. i always heard they grumbled so imagine their mood is good will they build ur rig nicely??

if u playing games then buy better psu. FSP so-so only consider tier 3-4 psu!

That monitor looks good with such low price compared to same price Samsung monitor. Stock cooler will run fine for non oc build, just add few more fans if temp is bad and make sure airflow is good.

G3258 can be oc'ed.

Hello Sifus, need kind advice for below. Please bear with me if I sound like newb on some of the descriptions below, because I have no knowledge about the hardwares

[Budget] RM3,000

[Purpose] Pure Gaming & Movies

[Hardwares that will be re-use] WD Red 2TB, Epsilon 80plus 600, Thermaltake casing, Dell 24" FHD monitor, DVD-ROM.

Below is the image of my old PSU, don't plan to change unless necessary


[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Far Cry 4, Batman, most triple A games.

[Personal preferences] Great audio. Also, I would like to have support for surround sound (for gaming and movie).
I don't plan to OC, mainly because I'm newb

[Location] KL

Thank you all in advance



This post has been edited by kopicat123: May 27 2015, 10:54 AM

How about these?

Xeon E3-1231 V3 - RM900
MSI B85M-E33 motherboard (m-ATX) - RM219
Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM210
Palit GTX970 4GB DDR5 - RM1299

Optional
MSI Z87-G41 PC mate motherboard (standard ATX) - +RM50 (+RM53 with GST)

RM2787 total (RM2954.22 total with GST from Jayacom)

Nvidia recommends only 500W or better for GTX970.

This post has been edited by TristanX: May 27 2015, 03:31 PM

Hey Adrian, Idealtech near pandan indah build their rig pretty good, If got budget it's better to go for a better tier psu.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-254...-tier-list.html

Are you Adrian Chong by any chance?

Looks good to me. Do I need to get a separate sound card for surround audio, or it's already available by default. Also, I see numerous GTX970 with different price. May I know what are the differences?

This post has been edited by kopicat123: May 27 2015, 03:59 PM

Most of the mobo nowadays come with 5.1/7.1 sound card, do check the mobo specs before buying. The main difference between the available model is the design, cooler and feature. Asus, Gigabyte and MSI products are having premium price here due to their brand name, Palit, Leadtek, Zotac are normally in the mid pack with affordable price, all of them are same GTX970 with some extra tweaks to clock speed, cooler and design, just get the cheapest will do.

Motherboard these days comes with sound. However, mid-ranged or better sound card still plays more sounds at the same time.

The difference with GTX970 is how far is the factory overclock and the heatsink design. Just buy the cheapest because the performance difference is only a few percent. Also, I forgot to list down Coolermaster Hyper 212X at RM159.

Thank you sifu, great insight for me.

Last few newb question, is cooler mandatory for gaming rig, or it's just a gimmick/deco? In case I couldn't find Xeon E3-1231 V3 (looks like those shops nearby my house don't sell it), is there any other alternatives?

This post has been edited by kopicat123: May 27 2015, 05:59 PM

Hi, want ask. Currently upgrading my hd7790.
1) I found used hd7950 for rm450. Izit good price?
2) Can it run with my current psu Aerocool 550w?
3) Will it bottleneck my rig? i3 3220, 4gb ram

This post has been edited by aaron_15ryderz: May 27 2015, 06:07 PM

It depends on your environment. Xeon runs pretty hot.

You can try Xeon E3-1230 V3 for a bit less money. Core i7-4790 is at around RM1100 I think.

Not a bad price.

It should work.

i3-3220 will struggle on CPU heavy or large multiplayer games. Watchdogs, BF4 large multiplayer map and GTA V are the examples. i3-3220 will not run Dragon Age: Inquisition too.

This post has been edited by TristanX: May 27 2015, 06:09 PM

Can I get Core i5 4460 instead? Is the difference in performance huge on gaming?

It's already detailed. Windows 10 Free for life (of the device) if upgraded within the offer period.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft-clarif...4730456889.html

It's not for work. For gaming. So I asked for suggestions to upgrade it. Budget around RM500.

mmm oh well, better not save that little money
i will stick with b85m
after reading around jonnyguru, hardwaresecrets & etc.
im considering Silverstone Strider Essential 500W (RM179) which is a tier3 PSU with better heat tolerance than FSP Hexa+ but still having Taiwanese caps (teapo though)
meanwhile, im also hesitating to put +rm100 more for [Tier 2] Seasonic S12II Bronze 620W @ 339 (too bad they seems to no longer be selling the cheaper but modular M12II 520W EVO as it disappeared from the pricelist)
oh yup, you are dennis ong right? hi there
in terms of overall expenses for my build, idealtech is more costly than viewnet though



i just noticed Microsoft is offering student promo : Wins8.1 Pro @ 215 great god
i will be getting my rig tomorrow. thanks you all especially @terence_nwb

get at least tier 2 psu. trust me. if can go tier 1!