I can't comment much cause I am the type of person which either go cheap or overpaid till it is worth...

Which in this case, Asrock B85/H97

BOOM . ill take option 2. if i can get extra money within a week surely ill get h97.

Thank you master!

If it is retail, just key in to your new rig and it should work, if not only contact Microsoft.

Normally if install Windows via iso, you have to use generic key for Windows 8/8.1 to continue the installation process, after booted into desktop only apply your own key in control panel.

Good choice.

You lose out nothing but 2 RAM slots.

Since you currently on 8GB single stick, the most you want to find is another 8GB in future. In theory, 16GB should be pretty enough (not include those who do heavy CAD/render works, they need as much RAM as possible) in coming years till your whole system become obsolete, unless there's a sudden boom of technology which we can't foresee (but still by then DDR3 already completely EOLed and phased out similar to what DDR2 are today, not worth invest in anymore).

can i use my brother windows 7 code? can use two laptop/desktop?

he buy his laptop with original windows 7 and i have the key .

or im to noob to ask this question

ahhh nice point you got there sir

Q: can i use different type of ram? like Gskill Aegis 8GB 1600mhz DDR3 + TridentX DDR3 + RipjawsX XL DDR3 . as long its DDR3 its okay right?

Theoretically cannot, one key per PC only, but sometimes there are some glitches on Microsoft's server side which allows one key to be activated on 2 different PCs at the same time. And if the key comes with laptop, then it will be an OEM key which tied to mobo serial.

Generally yes, since DDR3 is at its end of development, so probably no more new variants will come out (except DDR3L). So that means any 8GB you can find now will be the same as 8GB you can find in future (the "same" refers to the chips specifications).

But still, you should take note on 2 things, latency and speed. Sometimes different latency and speed RAM can't work together.

And no, you can only use OEM key once on 1 device.

For retails key, you can transfer it quite a few times by contact Microsoft, but still only one at a time.

the key comes with laptop,so i kenot use it

Thanks!

ahhh i see, better buy same type then. kalau tidak rugi loor kenot use

Torrent here i come

Btw thank you so much for helping me and answer all my question!

thanks so much!
wow i never thought that Windows OEM could cost that much can OEMs upgrade to Windows 10 for free?
hmm... tbh, it even exceeded my max. 3k budget
which parts can tune down & don't hurt much? or, can i obtain cheaper priced parts from other outlets yet i still can get free assembly service @ viewnet?
i don't mind playing games at lower setting though (changing into AMD counterparts or move into lower tiers (GTX 740 etc.))
i3 4130/50/60 with hyperthreading essentially has the same number of threads as i5 4460. other than lower cache memory for weaker multitasking, does the performance differ much or bottleneck my GPU?
is BenQ GW2255 fine as a replacement? or even changing into 1600x900 setup. it won't differ much right?
edit: i just realized b85m-hds has only single dual memory lane, which is abit different from standard b85m. what it differs from its h81m counterparts other than PCI-e 3.0?

sorry for having too much doubts & questions

This post has been edited by adrianccseng: May 26 2015, 04:46 AM

Oops, typo there, it's retail version, OEM version is around RM 100 cheaper than retail but OEM can only be activated once so getting a retail version is better.

Normally free assembly service only available if you purchase all parts from a single shop. If gaming is not your top priority and really wish to make it below 3k, either choose a smaller size/reso monitor or downgrade the CPU, i3 is sufficient for casual gaming but please be noted that some games like Far Cry 4 won't be able to run on dual core setup. If you want more RAM slots, get a normal ATX or Asus B85M at higher price, but I think 2 RAM slot is enough already since you are getting a single 8GB RAM stick now and you can add another 8GB later when needed, 16GB should be enough for the next couple of years unless you are a heavy CAD/rendering user.

wait win 10 official release only u buy. no point buy win 8.1 oem now. u will get free upgrade win 10 but only 1 yr.

i3 still running dual core with HT & i5 is quad core w/o HT.

if u not OC any processor, just pick any B85 or H97 mobo.

the remaining money always spend on monitor that suit ur preferences. now u should pick mobo that come with PCI-e 3.0. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ >> go read it

PCI-e 2.0 is older version from H81 mobo. try to avoid using old generation.

important pick Tier 1 PSU & build ur own rig. no need ask those shops. youtube got a lot guideline how to build pc.

That isn't correct.

People that use Windows 7 or 8.1 get a free upgrade to Windows 10 if they upgrade it to the latter within the first year.It'll permanently be yours.
If you want to upgrade..let's say 1 year and 1 day since Windows 10 was released,you need to pay.

Let's just hope Microsoft won't turn it into subscription,that would suck so bad.

after 1 yr u still need to pay. wait they announce official status regarding the matter. now 2015 everything talk money. this world nothing is free.

Dear rig masters, I need help upgrading my dad's computer. Need a compatible graphics card for his ECS A785GM-M3 motherboard. It also has a DDR2 667 1GB PC2 5300 memory stick and runs on AMD Phenom II X2 555. How can I upgrade it to it's maximum potential?

Hye sifus! Wanna build a rig when i go back KL later on June. Would like u guys to recommend a few stuff.

3-3.5k, gaming + casual
Rig only + os w7
No oc, gtx 970 (prefer msi)
No monitor etc just rig.
Might be doing some engineering softwares (render etc)

Interested in r9 models as well. Thnx in advance!

Hi Guys

Need suggestions on budget gaming pc (mainly for cyber cafe use, low setting gaming, online mmo etc2). My budget around 1-1.2k each (without software, lcd, hdd), and wanna build 5 rig replacing my old setup.

My old setup is Intel Dual Core and AMD Sempron. My cyber cafe serve mainly little kids to secondary student, and some foreigner doing some FB. So far, no heavy gaming is needed, they all just play same old game like counter strike, ragnarok, ryl. No dota fans here coz kampung area LoL.

I check online price list found some options:

AMD A8 6600K - RM 359
Asus A78M-E - RM 234
Kingston HyperX 2400Mhz - RM 289 (4GB x2)
Casing - RM 100
Total RM 982

Intel G3250 - RM 197
Asus H81M-C - RM 229
Sapphire R7 250 - RM 298
Kingston VR 1600Mhz - RM 230 (4GB x2)
Casing - RM 100
Total RM 1054

Any opinion on both setup? Or others setup should i consider?

Thanks

This post has been edited by mrbs84: May 26 2015, 07:43 PM

What kind of work does your dad do?

NVidia GPU is better for stuffs like rendering.

Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.3GHz RM949 - If you wanna get it slightly cheaper,RM920 from Techview.
MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate RM269
Zotac GTX970 Reference 4GB GDDR5 RM1271
Corsair Value RAM 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM219
WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM194
Seasonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze RM339
Thermaltake Versa H25 RM135
Windows 7 Pro 64Bit RM200
Total:RM3576
Price of the MoBo is from Jayacom@LYP,GPU is from Cycom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP.

Add in a CPU cooler if you can,CM Hyper TX3 Evo RM94.34 will do.The Xeon is slightly hot.

No need for PSU? Or cap ayam which is included with the casing?I'd rather not go cap ayam.

Intel Pentium G3258 RM242.74
Asrock H81M-VG4 RM178.08
Sapphire R7 250X 1GB GDDR5 RM344.50
Corsair Value RAM 4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM119
FSP Hexa+ 450W RM159
Aerocool V3X RM99-109
Total:RM1142.32-1152.32
Prices with cents are from Jayacom@LYP and the rest are from Viewnet@LYP.

I think 22"is good enough for me and still being FHD. Any recommendation? Im eyeing on BenQ GW2255HM (VA panel though) because it has better height and built in speaker. rm100 cheaper
Dota 2 is my main game as im amateurly active in competition. AAA games would be my occassion visits. Im okay to tune down the game reso n settings for better fps.
I'm not sure about that because im starting my ME degree next month, 8gb should be suffice for my study years i guess. But what's after that i'm not sure or even during intern
I guess i5 is a safer choice then.

Oh yea, is it advisable for me to install cpu cooler or any sort of cooling? Will case fans in positive pressure setup be just fine ?

Thanks sifu.