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azbro
post Jul 3 2024, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jul 3 2024, 01:11 PM)
hi everyone. May I know how to make autogate (folding gate) "smart"?

my house has Aqara/Apple Homekit setup, does the Aqara T1 relay works in this case?
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A few methods have, and you really need to do your homework to make sure it will work for your autogate.

Mine was simple, is using the 330mhz bandwidth remote.
So, to keep it simple, I bought a smart dongle that transmits that signal and works with the app I am using.
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Its no brainer and no need to do any wiring.

But, I'm not sure if this will work for you.

Another method is to use the plug ins into the auto box to control it

Or using a finger bot.

Or switch module for low current or DC type

Autogate have many types


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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jul 3 2024, 01:11 PM)
hi everyone. May I know how to make autogate (folding gate) "smart"?

my house has Aqara/Apple Homekit setup, does the Aqara T1 relay works in this case?
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 3 2024, 04:10 PM)
A few methods have, and you really need to do your homework to make sure it will work for your autogate.

Mine was simple, is using the 330mhz bandwidth remote.
So, to keep it simple, I bought a smart dongle that transmits that signal and works with the app I am using.
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Its no brainer and no need to do any wiring.

But, I'm not sure if this will work for you.

Another method is to use the plug ins into the auto box to control it

Or using a finger bot.

Or switch module for low current or DC type

Autogate have many types
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yes this one the easiest.
but before u commit, make sure u know which RF frequency ur autogate use.
there r 2 standard 330 and 433MHz

and some RF code were not fixed code, they use rotation code.
if use rotation code, then this will not work and u will need to add esp chip on ur auto gate controller
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post Jul 5 2024, 05:04 AM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jul 3 2024, 01:11 PM)
hi everyone. May I know how to make autogate (folding gate) "smart"?

my house has Aqara/Apple Homekit setup, does the Aqara T1 relay works in this case?
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You need Aqara T2 Dual Relay because it has dry contacts.
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post Jul 5 2024, 07:27 AM

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Hi there! I need some help selecting smart home devices. I've heard that Aqara is a great brand, especially with their M2 hub. Can it connect to Xiaomi devices? Do you have any recommendations? I'm building a smart home and want to make sure I choose the best options.
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QUOTE(andyeng @ Jul 5 2024, 07:27 AM)
Hi there! I need some help selecting smart home devices. I've heard that Aqara is a great brand, especially with their M2 hub. Can it connect to Xiaomi devices? Do you have any recommendations? I'm building a smart home and want to make sure I choose the best options.
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Aqara hub only compatible with aqara zigbee devices. But then latest M3 Hub is matter compatible. So it can work with any matter devices
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post Jul 6 2024, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 2 2024, 05:05 PM)
I wonder has anyone tried adding 2 PIR sensors to 1 WiFi light?

If PIR sensor detect movement it will ON, if no detect it will OFF

So if 1 PIR is ON, the other remains off is easy.

But if 1 both sensors is ON,  1 is still detecting movement and remains ON, but the other sensor after 1 minute is OFF, will the light remain ON or OFF? I want it to remain ON.

Or is it need to do some conditioning.
Example if sensor is still detecting movement, sensor 2 will not off the light. Wow..this is getting complicated for me. I'm just using the simple ewelink app, I don't think can do that.
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I don't have your kind of setup, like 2 PIR, but I think the setup from eWeLink should be as follows:.

1. Create two scenes.
2. Scene 1 is used to detect any movement coming from either PIR1 or PIR2, followed by turning on light 1 immediately.
3. Scene 2 is used to detect that both PIR1 and PIR2 are cleared, followed by a minute delay, then turning off light 1.

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As the app's built-in automation and scene are meant to be easy to use, it cannot handle difficult scenarios.

In Home Assistant setup with Node-Red, this will be my preferred workflow.

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In the above workflow:
1. When either PIR1 or PIR2 is on, then Light 1 will be on.
2. When both PIR1 and PIR2 are off, it will send a signal to the "delay block" for a 1-minute delay before passing on to Light 1 to turn it off.
3. If within a minute a new movement is detected, a "reset" signal is sent to the "delay block" to clear up any queues to be sent to Light 1 to turn off the light. 

mmWave Human Presence Sensors is much preferred compared to PIR.

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post Jul 6 2024, 11:03 AM

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when internet is down, is there another way to control ewelink devices
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post Jul 6 2024, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jul 6 2024, 11:03 AM)
when internet is down, is there another way to control ewelink devices
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Homeassistant, and use the sonofflan integration
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post Jul 6 2024, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(de_ghost @ Jul 5 2024, 05:03 PM)
Aqara hub only compatible with aqara zigbee devices. But then latest M3 Hub is matter compatible. So it can work with any matter devices
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Thanks for replying to my message. I haven't purchased any smart devices for my home yet. Do you have any brand recommendations for a fan, light, sensor, door lock, and curtain motor? My criteria are that the devices should automatically reconnect after a power outage and be as affordable as possible. I'm considering the Aqara Hub M3 for the hub but need suggestions for other devices or any smart ecosystem. Can you advice plz?
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post Jul 6 2024, 08:39 PM

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I tested my Sonoff door sensor I put at autogate, that thing detects even when there is no magnet. When door swing open it starts to detect midway even when there is nagnet.

So when it is suppose to be
close
Open
Close

It is
Close
Open
Close
Open
Close.

Happen since new

I will probably change the sensor

And the PIR sensor is crazy one, seems like detecting ghost

The bulbs keep disconnecting. Once disconnects need to reboot again

Crazylah, no wonder you guys insist on Aqara even though it's cost double or triple Sonoff.

This post has been edited by azbro: Jul 6 2024, 08:44 PM
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post Jul 6 2024, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 6 2024, 08:39 PM)
I tested my Sonoff door sensor I put at autogate, that thing detects even when there is no magnet. When door swing open it starts to detect midway even when there is nagnet.

So when it is suppose to be
close
Open
Close

It is
Close
Open
Close
Open
Close.

Happen since new

I will probably change the sensor

And the PIR sensor is crazy one, seems like detecting ghost

The bulbs keep disconnecting. Once disconnects need to reboot again

Crazylah, no wonder you guys insist on Aqara even though it's cost double or triple Sonoff.
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can i suggest:
- get magnet from Daiso. those small but powerful ones.

- if your gate is sliding type to close, then paste the magnet farther from edge of the closing pole/pillar. just far enough that it triggers the sensor on pole/pillar..

- if your gate is swing-to-close or foldable, try to see if you can paste the magnet in-between the two sides of the swing gate. adjust the distance of sensor on the opposing side, just enough to respond to the magnet.

This post has been edited by Oltromen Ripot: Jul 6 2024, 10:01 PM
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post Jul 6 2024, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 6 2024, 08:39 PM)
I tested my Sonoff door sensor I put at autogate, that thing detects even when there is no magnet. When door swing open it starts to detect midway even when there is nagnet.

So when it is suppose to be
close
Open
Close

It is
Close
Open
Close
Open
Close.

Happen since new

I will probably change the sensor

And the PIR sensor is crazy one, seems like detecting ghost

The bulbs keep disconnecting. Once disconnects need to reboot again

Crazylah, no wonder you guys insist on Aqara even though it's cost double or triple Sonoff.
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You can get older Aqara sensors for like RM20 ish also so its not always much more expensive than the other options. I have a couple of Sonoff PIR sensors but its only to detect that there is no activity in a particular area for set amount of time, no issues with it. I think Sonoff is decent.

Maybe your case got some other magnets interfere?
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QUOTE(andyeng @ Jul 6 2024, 11:53 AM)
Thanks for replying to my message. I haven't purchased any smart devices for my home yet. Do you have any brand recommendations for a fan, light, sensor, door lock, and curtain motor? My criteria are that the devices should automatically reconnect after a power outage and be as affordable as possible. I'm considering the Aqara Hub M3 for the hub but need suggestions for other devices or any smart ecosystem. Can you advice plz?
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It really depends, Aqara have most of what you wanted, but Aqara’s price now is on the high side. I get most of my aqara from taobao.

Matter compatible device is still not that easy to find in local market.

If prices is a concern u may want to take a look at tuya compatible devices, they are relatively affordable but then quality wise is a hit or miss.

If you have time and like to tinker around then Homeasistance is the way to go due to its wide compatibility and can combine most smart product.
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post Jul 7 2024, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(de_ghost @ Jul 7 2024, 05:42 PM)
It really depends, Aqara have most of what you wanted, but Aqara’s price now is on the high side. I get most of my aqara from taobao.

Matter compatible device is still not that easy to find in local market.

If prices is a concern u may want to take a look at tuya compatible devices, they are relatively affordable but then quality wise is a hit or miss.

If you have time and like to tinker around then Homeasistance is the way to go due to its wide compatibility and can combine most smart product.
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No need to go for the latest models, the older ones that work fine are much cheaper. Basically all the D1 generation sensors, and if wanna get switched get the E1s.
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QUOTE(de_ghost @ Jul 7 2024, 05:42 PM)
It really depends, Aqara have most of what you wanted, but Aqara’s price now is on the high side. I get most of my aqara from taobao.

Matter compatible device is still not that easy to find in local market.

If prices is a concern u may want to take a look at tuya compatible devices, they are relatively affordable but then quality wise is a hit or miss.

If you have time and like to tinker around then Homeasistance is the way to go due to its wide compatibility and can combine most smart product.
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I noticed that local prices are quite high compared to Taobao. If I purchase from Taobao, will the device be able to connect to Google Home, or are only a few selected products global? Here's the link to what I found on Taobao.
58🔐4llo30H7FFu£ https://m.tb.cn/h.g7a0EmATC32UoQn MF6563 绿米全屋智能官营店
It's the same link as yours?


I'm planning to get Moes for my curtains. Have you heard of this brand before?

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post Jul 8 2024, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Jul 6 2024, 10:00 PM)
can i suggest:
- get magnet from Daiso. those small but powerful ones.

-  if your gate is sliding type to close, then paste the magnet farther from edge of the closing pole/pillar. just far enough that it triggers the sensor on pole/pillar..

- if your gate is swing-to-close or foldable, try to see if you can paste the magnet in-between the two sides of the swing gate. adjust the distance of sensor on the opposing side, just enough to respond to the magnet.
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I've settled it, now works as intended, but I will need to get a larger magnet as my gate when close is not so aligned.

The issue was I put the on off detector below a box, which contains a solenoid lock, which magnetise when it is functioning. This made one side of the gate 'magnetised'. The on off detector got triggered from this when it is opened.
I've relocate the magnet and detector to different sides (as in the picture) and works great now.

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This post has been edited by azbro: Jul 8 2024, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Jul 3 2024, 09:15 AM)
1. "Then I disable myself" should be put last in the list of Thens.
We cannot predict how the server will treat such instruction, now and in future. What if put it at NOT at last in the list and it causes even the current invocation to be aborted right there and then, leaving the rest in the list of Then unexecuted. So don't take risk of premature abort.

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Actually aaaa, if based on the conditions of Automation Auto OFF, in which it does not execute if Lights is not ON, to make it simpler, can remove and modify the following Thens.

(2) Automation Auto OFF does not need to disable itself.

(3) Automation Auto ON does not need to enable Auto OFF.

(4) Automation Manual ON need to disable both Auto OFF and Auto ON.

(5) Automation Manual OFF need to enable both Auto OFF and Auto ON.

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I'm trying out Ipcamera to detect humans instead of PIR sensors for outdoors. Just ordered a Sonoff camera, hopefully it will be easier to setup and have less false detection than a PIR sensor, especially for outdoors


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QUOTE(andyeng @ Jul 8 2024, 07:33 AM)
I noticed that local prices are quite high compared to Taobao. If I purchase from Taobao, will the device be able to connect to Google Home, or are only a few selected products global? Here's the link to what I found on Taobao.
58🔐4llo30H7FFu£ https://m.tb.cn/h.g7a0EmATC32UoQn  MF6563 绿米全屋智能官营店
It's the same link as yours?
I'm planning to get Moes for my curtains. Have you heard of this brand before?
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Devices sold in taobao are china region and not able to support google home.

For aqara, from what i read in reddit, newer devices are starting to have regional lock. So be caution when buying.
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QUOTE(de_ghost @ Jul 9 2024, 12:08 PM)
Devices sold in taobao are china region and not able to support google home.

For aqara, from what i read in reddit, newer devices are starting to have regional lock. So be caution when buying.
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Aqara devices regional lock has been implementing for few years, although you are still able to use it, the device response time could be suffer because device need to connect back to China.
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jul 9 2024, 12:13 PM)
Aqara devices regional lock has been implementing for few years, although you are still able to use it, the device response time could be suffer because device need to connect back to China.
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Oh, I’m thinking of mixing and matching devices as long as they support Zigbee. Currently, I’m looking at a brand called Moes, and I've heard that Aqara sensors are very good. What do you guys think?

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