Just a few nice pics from various sources i got online... Hope those owners wouldn't mind for me to post their pics...





THE SCHNAUZER THREAD, all you need to know about schnauzers..
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May 15 2006, 01:28 AM, updated 20y ago
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Hi, i am a fan of MS... Currently i dun have one but i love them so much.. They are so cute and adorable!!!! Really wanna have one someday...So, i would hope that any owners or fans wouldn't mind to share some experience here...
Just a few nice pics from various sources i got online... Hope those owners wouldn't mind for me to post their pics... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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I love MS! Especially the white MS!
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Yup, can't see the 2nd one... But the MS looks cute... I think mayb he/she is not used to the new environment kua, so dun dare to bark.. haha.. What's the fella's name??
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QUOTE(whooi @ May 16 2006, 03:01 AM) Yup, can't see the 2nd one... But the MS looks cute... I think mayb he/she is not used to the new environment kua, so dun dare to bark.. haha.. What's the fella's name?? sorry..edited the pics.. mm? hehe his name is vodka.. prob.. finally hear him bark yesterday.. he heard someone was outside thn he started barking.. |
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Wah seh!!!!! VERY CUTE!!!! Somemore with the shirt on, the fella looks lagi chun!!!
May i know how much ur fren bought Vodka?? Where they bought Vodka? This post has been edited by whooi: May 16 2006, 11:36 PM |
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QUOTE(Tainted @ May 16 2006, 09:25 PM) hehe yea.. but 7 mths old.. doesnt look tht old yet.. another fren of mine MS looks older.. keke.. macam ah pek..QUOTE(whooi @ May 16 2006, 11:33 PM) Wah seh!!!!! VERY CUTE!!!! Somemore with the shirt on, the fella looks lagi chun!!! hehe.. well iinm, rm1.5k++ .. where? hehe dono..May i know how much ur fren bought Vodka?? Where they bought Vodka? |
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May 17 2006, 12:51 PM
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RM1.5k ++ with cert ar?
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a fan over here..... wanted to hav one.
but dunno if they are suitable to stay inside apartment |
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QUOTE(ah_keh @ May 17 2006, 02:48 PM) Oh, RM800 is cheap for a MS with cert.QUOTE(tookinen @ May 17 2006, 04:47 PM) Yeap, they are suitable to live in apartment. MS's size is quite small so you don't need a very big space for them to play. |
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QUOTE(tookinen @ May 17 2006, 04:47 PM) hahah my fren lives in an apartment.. QUOTE(hao @ May 17 2006, 04:49 PM) Oh, RM800 is cheap for a MS with cert. yeap! dirt cheapo.. whether or not its a good breed.. tht im not sure but i am definitely sure tht vodka is waaaaaaaay cuter thn the other one.. Yeap, they are suitable to live in apartment. MS's size is quite small so you don't need a very big space for them to play. OT : i kinda got cheated fr some shop who sold me a shihtzu fer rm2.2k.. according to him a cert is provided but till now i have not receive the cert.. *even tho my pup is RIP* sighh |
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May 18 2006, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(hao @ May 17 2006, 04:49 PM) Oh, RM800 is cheap for a MS with cert. Wrong. They are not suitable for apartment. MS is a yappy lot. The first thing that'll come to their mind is to bark and yap whenever they see something suspicious. With that kinda yapping, you think your neighbours would like it or not.Yeap, they are suitable to live in apartment. MS's size is quite small so you don't need a very big space for them to play. |
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May 18 2006, 11:35 AM
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I own a ms black fur with white fur on the leg...later i upload the pic, tis pc dun have the pic..My family named him lucky...He likes to bark a lot. Got ppl pass through he also bark....but if live in apartment...seeems like not suitable lo...dunno la..maybe some ms teach to be silence n not bark alwiz...
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QUOTE(nairud @ May 18 2006, 08:44 AM) Wrong. They are not suitable for apartment. MS is a yappy lot. The first thing that'll come to their mind is to bark and yap whenever they see something suspicious. With that kinda yapping, you think your neighbours would like it or not. They bark and yap when they see something, but most of the apartments are covered up with walls except the main entrance which is closed by a wooden door. Unless some perverts or stalkers are wandering in front of your house and the MS senses them, that's what a dog will do anyway. No? |
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May 18 2006, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(hao @ May 18 2006, 01:15 PM) They bark and yap when they see something, but most of the apartments are covered up with walls except the main entrance which is closed by a wooden door. Unless some perverts or stalkers are wandering in front of your house and the MS senses them, that's what a dog will do anyway. No? |
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May 18 2006, 03:37 PM
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hey.. i'm looking to buy either a standard or miniature schnazuer.. does anyone have the contact no. of schnauzer breeders in the klang valley?
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May 18 2006, 07:44 PM
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What is the normal price for a MS with cert? w/out cert? Is it that black and silver or pure white and pure black is more expensive? By how much?? Thanx ar....
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May 18 2006, 08:33 PM
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not in apartment, but terrace house. think about it, in terrace house, a dog owner like me also cannot stand it, what about in an apartment |
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QUOTE(nairud @ May 18 2006, 08:44 AM) Wrong. They are not suitable for apartment. MS is a yappy lot. The first thing that'll come to their mind is to bark and yap whenever they see something suspicious. With that kinda yapping, you think your neighbours would like it or not. mm..my fren's MS doesnt really bark.. which is a pretty goood thing |
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pure breed MS should not have white fur ... only the black can have white patch on the chest. silver/light grey are ok.
don't know if suitable for appartment but i believe all apartment/condo have rules - best you check with the mgt if pet dogs are allowed. |
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I believe it's strongly discouraged to have a pet in an apartment. How disappointing. But dog lovers should really consider getting a terrace house, be it small or large to house their Miniature Schnauzers.
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May 23 2006, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(kitman @ May 23 2006, 09:38 AM) pure breed MS should not have white fur ... only the black can have white patch on the chest. silver/light grey are ok. If you follow the World of Dogs properly, they're beginning to accept MS with white fur.don't know if suitable for appartment but i believe all apartment/condo have rules - best you check with the mgt if pet dogs are allowed. |
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I went to a pet shop that day, there got 4 MS pups, most of them are kind of black and silver...They are so cute.. The seller told me that MS tends to get skin diseases... She said 80% of the MS will tend to get infected.. Is it true that MS are prone to skin diseases?
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May 24 2006, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(whooi @ May 23 2006, 07:49 PM) I went to a pet shop that day, there got 4 MS pups, most of them are kind of black and silver...They are so cute.. The seller told me that MS tends to get skin diseases... She said 80% of the MS will tend to get infected.. Is it true that MS are prone to skin diseases? Yah, they have sensitive skin.... But if you get from a good breeder, I would say professional breeders, very likely to have no skin problems. The ones that get skin disease often are actually not properly bred. This is sort of like an inherited disease. Once a dog has skin problems often, it should never be bred but you know lah, so many homebreeders do not know so they simply breed till this skin disorder is common. Normally all dogs carry a sort of skin mite. If a dog has very low immune system, the mite can cause damage to the skin. Dogs can be also allergic to food and plastic and it will cause rashes. Plastic allergy causes infection and rashes on the mouth. Fungus also causes some nasty skin infections.... |
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Yeps, I call this disease: Schnauzer Flakes. XD Their skin is sensitive and flaky, in bad cases you have to bring him to a vet regularly for checkup. Always check his back, ears and neck for any abnormalities in his skin.
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May 24 2006, 01:37 PM
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Vet also said it's common for MS to get this. BF has 2 dogs in his house, MS and Shih Tzu. The older dog, Touche the Shih Tzu has some skin probs but not occuring as often as the MS one. Skin very flaky...
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May 26 2006, 06:33 PM
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Ooo.... any recommendible breeders of MS in pg??
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May 26 2006, 06:35 PM
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Just saw The Star online newspaper.... got show quality miniature schnauzers wor..... brazil champ line.... wonder how they look like heheheh....
Penang, must ask Darren loh.... he penang dog breeder. |
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Malaysia Dog Olympic Day 2006
Date :June 18, 2006 Venue :Central Park, Bandar Utama, Kuala Lumpur Time :7:15am to 3:00pm Admission :Free Open to :All dogs lovers. Owner of Mixed Breeds and Pure Breeds dog and their dogs are all welcome. any of u will attend?...all schnauzer meet up there?... |
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QUOTE(AK4e @ May 26 2006, 08:00 PM) Malaysia Dog Olympic Day 2006 LOL, you also from pp.com? Username?Date :June 18, 2006 Venue :Central Park, Bandar Utama, Kuala Lumpur Time :7:15am to 3:00pm Admission :Free Open to :All dogs lovers. Owner of Mixed Breeds and Pure Breeds dog and their dogs are all welcome. any of u will attend?...all schnauzer meet up there?... I might be going heheh |
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Haha... english not good also can post ur comment 1.. most important is share ur experience together... If not, then share pics loo...
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May 27 2006, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(whooi @ May 27 2006, 03:21 AM) Haha... english not good also can post ur comment 1.. most important is share ur experience together... If not, then share pics loo... english poor not only dunno how to express n will cause me don understand wat r they talking abt too...second ,d schnauzer club at there like no body business...boring!--this is my baby-- ![]() » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(AK4e @ May 27 2006, 04:31 PM) english poor not only dunno how to express n will cause me don understand wat r they talking abt too...second ,d schnauzer club at there like no body business...boring! no ah , i understand you . maybe we same standard --this is my baby-- ![]() » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(AK4e @ May 28 2006, 12:35 PM) Hahaha.... now that is so weird. At least now you can hug mine and I can hug yours loh. MS just so cute.. but when I had the chance to get CKCS.... ah, just jumped into it. But I didn't know CKCS super manja.... too manja for my family liao. |
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 28 2006, 12:39 PM) Hahaha.... now that is so weird. At least now you can hug mine and I can hug yours loh. MS just so cute.. but when I had the chance to get CKCS.... ah, just jumped into it. But I didn't know CKCS super manja.... too manja for my family liao. u thot only ckcs manja...most of them say my baby very "teh"(manja) too.... i love m.schnauzer! countdown olympic day:21 days |
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 28 2006, 01:04 PM) Last time I got shih tzu... not manja wan... this is 1st time I have a manja dog heheheh.... aiyoh, me can't wait to hug your teh baby liao hahahhaha.....21 days more....she is my 1st furkids...so i dunno whether she "teh" or not...but most of them say she very "teh"... |
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Haha... u all say until like very syok.... I also wan MS!!! Pity me not in kl.... Or else i also wan go....
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where can i get white MS ?
i heard pj pet shop selling rm1.5k but dunno which 1 |
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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ May 30 2006, 12:55 PM) White MS ah.... Rm1.5k a bit high lah. Well, of course since petshop. Ifhe say come with cert, a bit cheated since MKA don't issue cert for white MS yet.White MS is beginning to get noticed and shown in US but here not yet. Anyway, it is a recessive gene that makes the coat pigment white. There was once a breeder with almost whole litter white MS coz the sire was white.... well, my advice is you better go on searching. Call up breeders from newspapers. Petshop I just do not trust coz sometimes a pup can have serious health problems. |
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seldom saw white from breeder ler
btw salt n pepper,with cert n vaccine RM900 ok or not? wat to check if buying the MS for 1st time? |
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May 31 2006, 10:50 AM
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Where did you get it for Rm900? petshop?
If it's home breed, check out the environment. is it clean? A lot of other dogs in the house (adult ones)? Do your research on the breed and lambast the seller with lotsa questions what you've already know the answer and see how he takes it. This post has been edited by nairud: May 31 2006, 10:51 AM |
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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ May 31 2006, 09:38 AM) seldom saw white from breeder ler Of course seldom lah. Coz it is a recessive gene that causes the MS to become white. So if a breeder breeds MS, only 1 or 2 out of all their pups will be white. Since it is not recognize in malaysia, no show breeder or quality breeder will breed white MS.btw salt n pepper,with cert n vaccine RM900 ok or not? wat to check if buying the MS for 1st time? RM900 is really cheap. Normally a quality or show breeder will sell at RM1k to RM1.5k. Do check out. If Rm900, I'm guess just a normal homebreeder. You need to check on the health of the pups, environment they live in and knowledge of the breeder. LIke what nairud said, blast questions. Ask how often to groom, when should start heart guard, ask about the parent dogs background and health background. Give questions that focuses on bringing up a pup and breed standards. A good breeder would be able to answer you. |
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No, I never saw them b4 even... they are in japan T_T
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RM900 is cheap r? With cert izit? If no cert, i think not cheap d lo.. In melaka got one pet shop selling 4 MS, each around rm650. and they are so cute!!!!
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RM650 is very cheap
the cheapest i found is RM700 but tat was once in a blue moon RM900 is home breed with cert btw i dont need a cert actually just tat it sounds nicer when ppl ask u "got cert or not?" |
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certification is actually to ensure tat the puppy you purchase is bred according to standards and not some random person trying to earn a quick buck from his mating pets.. some 'breeders' ..if you can call them that.. may end up selling you a dog of poor health and temperament.. so be careful.. certs are definately not for bragging rights.. lol
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anyone can tell me wat happen to my baby....i know is skin problem...but wat kind of skin problem is this...
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Jun 2 2006, 09:12 PM
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Looks like a skin infection... not sure.... All over the body or at a certain part? Which part? Licking it? Scratching it?
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if got any skin diseases, my advice is to send to the vet immediately...Better safe than sorry...
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QUOTE(AK4e @ Jun 3 2006, 01:18 AM) Normally it occurs when the area is too wet. You can try dettol but make sure it is a very light solution. Anyway, continue to monitor, best is for your dog to stop licking and keep dry. You can try an E-Collar on her if she licks too much. The more your dog licks, the longer it will heal coz wet. |
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jun 3 2006, 03:10 PM) Normally it occurs when the area is too wet. You can try dettol but make sure it is a very light solution. Anyway, continue to monitor, best is for your dog to stop licking and keep dry. You can try an E-Collar on her if she licks too much. The more your dog licks, the longer it will heal coz wet. thanks...i ll bring her see vet soon...pity her... |
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Sad to see another sick puppy... skin disease again.... I got a husky which i suspect got demodectic mange...The fur keeps coming out.. one patch by one patch.. damn kelian..
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yeap its confirmed skin allergy.. spots..
cost rm50 fer injection and some pills.. geez.. its so hard to feed thm with medicines.. they refused to eat.. |
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Jun 10 2006, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(ah_keh @ Jun 10 2006, 06:08 PM) yeap its confirmed skin allergy.. spots.. Why not get the tablet syringe? Rm12 at Ikano... it looks like a syringe that is bigger than the vets use and it is green. No needle but got a long nozzle that you can put a tablet in. Fill the syringe with water and shoot in the mouth heheheh.... cost rm50 fer injection and some pills.. geez.. its so hard to feed thm with medicines.. they refused to eat.. Skin allergy,.... vet got say caused by what ah? |
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Jun 16 2006, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jun 10 2006, 06:15 PM) Why not get the tablet syringe? Rm12 at Ikano... it looks like a syringe that is bigger than the vets use and it is green. No needle but got a long nozzle that you can put a tablet in. Fill the syringe with water and shoot in the mouth heheheh.... Hmm, waiting for his owner to get one for him. Skin allergy,.... vet got say caused by what ah? well, if i'm not mistaken the vet noted that when you send your dog for grooming, it's advisable to request for their tools to be sterilized first.. cuz it cud spread from one infected dog to another through the tools.. and another thing is tht.. use HEAD & SHOULDERS shampoo to prevent dandruffs.. whahahah dog oso got dandruffs.. lol |
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Jun 16 2006, 06:19 PM
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most schnauzer got dandruff problem'
its very common problem on this breed skin allergic also very common to them |
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Jun 27 2006, 01:48 PM
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White MS spotted at Ikano. I wanted it so badly but bf's mom went and say it's ALBINO like it's some kinda disease. GEEZ woman! =_=
So adorable. Can complement Hauptmann, his MS who's terrorizing his Shihtzu ahahaha... |
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Jun 27 2006, 03:51 PM
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Jun 27 2006, 04:20 PM
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Awww, can hardly see her eyes!!
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Jun 28 2006, 06:48 PM
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Jul 1 2006, 02:05 PM
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I wonder whether the fella can walk straight without banging against the walls or not... Haha....
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Jul 3 2006, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(Suet @ Jun 27 2006, 01:48 PM) White MS spotted at Ikano. I wanted it so badly but bf's mom went and say it's ALBINO like it's some kinda disease. GEEZ woman! =_= WHITE?So adorable. Can complement Hauptmann, his MS who's terrorizing his Shihtzu ahahaha... wow..i was told it is available in Taiwan ... M'sia also got ... Mine is black.... Before haircut After Hair Cut 5+ months old.. and a whoping 5kg weight Vet says she is overweight I wonder what should be the right weight for her btw, does you guys Schnauzers barks? Mine doesn't.. AT ALL .. well, she did bark a few times when she just came to my house..after that she dont bark anymore... This post has been edited by ed0gawa: Jul 3 2006, 08:22 AM |
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Jul 3 2006, 11:54 AM
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Jul 3 2006, 01:09 PM
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Schnauzers do bark, some louder and more persistent than the rest.
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Jul 3 2006, 06:51 PM
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Mine is manja too ...but this 2 day damn naughty ... picks up food from the dustbin ...
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Jul 3 2006, 10:11 PM
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haha mine is superb active and naughty...
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Jul 4 2006, 12:15 PM
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Uh "mine" likes to run away with my underwear. =_= The expensive ones.
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Jul 4 2006, 11:02 PM
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Jul 6 2006, 02:37 AM
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hei...wat brand of dog food u guys r giving?coz her skin prob...everybody ask me to change dog food...now she is eating Nutro Choice Lamb & Rice..i think i ll change it to California Natural Herring & Sweet Potato...and how abt tis Breeder's Choice AvoDerm Vegetarian Adult Formula for Meat Sensitive Dogs?..any suggestion or opinion?
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Jul 9 2006, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(AK4e @ Jul 6 2006, 02:37 AM) hei...wat brand of dog food u guys r giving?coz her skin prob...everybody ask me to change dog food...now she is eating Nutro Choice Lamb & Rice..i think i ll change it to California Natural Herring & Sweet Potato...and how abt tis Breeder's Choice AvoDerm Vegetarian Adult Formula for Meat Sensitive Dogs?..any suggestion or opinion? I think for food you ask you personal doggy VET la...they will know what your dog wants... |
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Jul 9 2006, 09:10 AM
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Is there such a thing as a pure white MS? Anyone can show me a picture of it?
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Jul 9 2006, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Jul 9 2006, 09:10 AM) There is... but it is not a standard colour or registed dog under MKA.... well, AKC standard, MS no white wan coz the white is a recessive gene. People think can earn extra money from white MS but if you wanna follow the show standards... it got no value... people in US who breed MS, once got white MS they sell cheap or give away... but in Malaysia... white MS more expensive... RM1500 also got.... but advisable not to breed this dog.... |
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Jul 10 2006, 02:17 AM
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Thanks for the advice, moderator! I was just asking. I have had my eyes set on a Westie! Check out my post. Thanks!
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Jul 10 2006, 06:08 PM
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No prob. I also think Westie is nicer heheh... you will spend less on the grooming bit.
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Jul 19 2006, 11:59 AM
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Guys, what is your M.Schnauzers weight when it is 6-7 months old??
After the vet says my pup is overweight, i feed less food to her (around 70% of wat i used to feed her).. My friends all said that my pup seems to be smaller a bit already But she is still around 4.5-5KG (6-7 month old) p/s : Damn lazy..... sleeps/lie down for 23 hours a day. She got addicted to my bed, now she always sleep on my bed. Fight with me for the sleeping space Bought a 30 * 30 cushion for her, now she treat it as her bed and finally, she knows where to do her "business" already.. damn happy This post has been edited by ed0gawa: Jul 19 2006, 12:01 PM |
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Jul 19 2006, 12:00 PM
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Best way to see whether your dog is obese or not is to feel the ribs. If you cant feel the ribs, it's fat, if you can see the ribs, it's thin. You cant see the ribs but you can feel it, it's ok
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Jul 19 2006, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(nairud @ Jul 19 2006, 12:00 PM) Best way to see whether your dog is obese or not is to feel the ribs. If you cant feel the ribs, it's fat, if you can see the ribs, it's thin. You cant see the ribs but you can feel it, it's ok hmm.... let's see, can't see the rib. But can feel it.. when i touch it, it feels like touching someone that are very fit.. lolBut her chest seems to be out of portion... sort of much bigger than her stomach area (imagine a guy with a V shape body) |
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Jul 19 2006, 12:06 PM
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sometimes it's tbe rib cage that is born like that. Since it's 7 months old, you can try stop feeding her for one feeding session and see how it is in the next feeding session.
My jrt was born with wide rib cage and i have to massage it every 2 hours to make it go back to normal but still looks a bit wide. |
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Oct 18 2006, 10:24 AM
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THE SCHNAUZER THREAD
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Oct 18 2006, 10:39 AM
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The Miniature Schnauzer is a small, squarely-proportioned dog with a long head, bushy beard, mustache and eyebrows. The thick, prominent eyebrows and long mustache are often trimmed to accentuate the dog's square cut shape. The front legs are very straight. The tail is usually docked. The oval eyes are dark colored, and the v-shaped ears fold forward when left natural or are cropped to a point and stand erect. It has a long head, strong muzzle, a well-developed black nose and a scissors bite. Coat colors include salt & pepper, black, white or a harsh black & silver outer coat with a soft undercoat. The white Miniature Schnauzer is a bit controversial. It is not recognized by the AKC. Some claim the white Schnauzer is a form of albinism, while others beg to differ.
Temperament Very perky and bright-eyed. Loving and intelligent. Energetic, affectionate, and obedient. Playful, happy and alert, they like children. The Miniature Schnauzer demands time and companionship from its owner. It can be feisty and fairly dog-aggressive - putting on a show of superiority without necessarily intending to fight. This can be fairly dangerous for the Miniature Schnauzer, who will challenge even large dogs, sometimes bringing more trouble on himself than he really wanted. Socialize this breed well with other dogs when it is still a puppy. If properly introduced, the Miniature Schnauzer will get along with another dog, but will not accept every dog that comes its way. Since the temperament of this breed can be quite variable, select a puppy from parents whose temperament you enjoy. They make good companions and family pets. Schnauzers tend to bark a lot, but it does not have a yappy bark and is not as annoying as one may think. Most of the time the dog's bark sounds like it is talking to you in a low carried-out voice. They make good guard dogs and mouse catchers. They are excellent watchdogs and are great to travel with. Some can be reserved with strangers, but most love everyone. Height, Weight Height: 12-14 inches (30-36cm.) Weight: 10-15 pounds (5-7kg) Health Problems This is usually a healthy breed. Although some are prone to suffer from kidney stones, liver disease, skin disorders, von Willebrand's disease, diabetes, liver ailments and cysts. Also hereditary eye problems. Eyes of breeding stock should be checked for this. Do not overfeed the Schnauzer, for he tends to gain weight easily. Living Conditions The Miniature Schnauzer is a good dog for apartment life. It is fairly active indoors and will do okay without a yard. Exercise These energetic little dogs enjoy long, brisk, daily walks, and love play sessions off the leash. Life Expectancy About 15 years. It shows no signs of age until quite late in life. Grooming The wiry coat is reasonably easy to look after, but unless it is combed or brushed daily with a short wire brush, it will become matted. Clip out any knots. The animal should be clipped all over to an even length twice a year, in spring and fall, but this is a job best left to an expert. Trim around the eyes and ears with blunt-nosed scissors and clean the whiskers after meals. On pet dogs the coat is usually clipped short on the upper body and left somewhat longer on the under-parts, legs and head. Show dogs require trimming and hand stripping instead of clipping. This breed sheds little to no hair and is a good dog for allergy sufferers. Origin The Miniature Schnauzer is reportedly a result of crosses between the Standard Schnauzer, the Affenpinscher and perhaps the Poodle. He is originally a German breed, named after the German word for muzzle, "Schnauze." The Miniature Schnauzer excels at killing rats, but today it is mostly a popular and esteemed companion. Some of the Schnauzer's talents include: hunting, tracking, watchdogging, competitive obedience, and performing tricks. Group Terrier, AKC Terrier This post has been edited by [E]velyn: Oct 18 2006, 10:55 AM |
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Eyes - Small, dark brown and deep-set. They are oval in appearance and keen in expression. Faults - Eyes light and/or large and prominent in appearance. Ears - When cropped, the ears are identical in shape and length, with pointed tips. They are in balance with the head and not exaggerated in length. They are set high on the skull and carried perpendicularly at the inner edges, with as little bell as possible along the outer edges. When uncropped, the ears are small and V-shaped, folding close to the skull. Head strong and rectangular, its width diminishing slightly from ears to eyes, and again to the tip of the nose. The forehead is unwrinkled. The topskull is flat and fairly long. The foreface is parallel to the topskull, with a slight stop, and it is at least as long as the topskull. The muzzle is strong in proportion to the skull; it ends in a moderately blunt manner, with thick whiskers which accentuate the rectangular shape of the head. Faults - Head coarse and cheeky. The teeth meet in a scissors bite. That is, the upper front teeth overlap the lower front teeth in such a manner that the inner surface of the upper incisors barely touches the outer surface of the lower incisors when the mouth is closed. Faults - Bite - Undershot or overshot jaw. Level bite. Neck, Topline, Body Neck - strong and well arched, blending into the shoulders, and with the skin fitting tightly at the throat. Body short and deep, with the brisket extending at least to the elbows. Ribs are well sprung and deep, extending well back to a short loin. The underbody does not present a tucked up appearance at the flank. The backline is straight; it declines slightly from the withers to the base of the tail. The withers form the highest point of the body. The overall length from chest to buttocks appears to equal the height at the withers. Faults - Chest too broad or shallow in brisket. Hollow or roach back. Tail set high and carried erect. It is docked only long enough to be clearly visible over the backline of the body when the dog is in proper length of coat. Fault - Tail set too low. Forequarters Forelegs are straight and parallel when viewed from all sides. They have strong pasterns and good bone. They are separated by a fairly deep brisket which precludes a pinched front. The elbows are close, and the ribs spread gradually from the first rib so as to allow space for the elbows to move close to the body. Fault - Loose elbows. The sloping shoulders are muscled, yet flat and clean. They are well laid back, so that from the side the tips of the shoulder blades are in a nearly vertical line above the elbow. The tips of the blades are placed closely together. They slope forward and downward at an angulation which permits the maximum forward extension of the forelegs without binding or effort. Both the shoulder blades and upper arms are long, permitting depth of chest at the brisket. Feet short and round (cat feet) with thick, black pads. The toes are arched and compact. Hindquarters The hindquarters have strong-muscled, slanting thighs. They are well bent at the stifles. There is sufficient angulation so that, in stance, the hocks extend beyond the tail. The hindquarters never appear overbuilt or higher than the shoulders. The rear pasterns are short and, in stance, perpendicular to the ground and, when viewed from the rear, are parallel to each other. Faults - Sickle hocks, cow hocks, open hocks or bowed hindquarters. Coat Double, with hard, wiry, outer coat and close undercoat. The head, neck, ears, chest, tail, and body coat must be plucked. When in show condition, the body coat should be of sufficient length to determine texture. Close covering on neck, ears and skull. Furnishings are fairly thick but not silky. Faults - Coat too soft or too smooth and slick in appearance. |
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Oct 18 2006, 11:01 AM
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Oct 18 2006, 11:10 AM
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Oct 18 2006, 11:11 AM
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Oct 18 2006, 11:28 AM
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wow, nice going and i love schnauzer very much as my gf does. hope to be able to adopt 1 soon for our small home we rent. do you have anymore?
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Oct 18 2006, 11:30 AM
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And looking from your address.. you are staying in setapak?? i'm at sri rampai, but now with my gf staying in wangsa maju sec 2. do you in lucky to have any schnauzer to give away as adoption?
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Oct 18 2006, 11:45 AM
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I'll try to find some for you..
but it wont be easy though. schnauzers arent easy to get This post has been edited by [E]velyn: Oct 18 2006, 11:46 AM |
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Oct 18 2006, 11:59 AM
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Found some..
cheap but not free lor.. http://free.com.my/showproduct.php?product=4157 http://free.com.my/showproduct.php?product=4156 http://free.com.my/showproduct.php?product=3906 (quite cheap, dont know if still available though..) |
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Oct 18 2006, 01:00 PM
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ic, thanks.. but not really able to afford paying them lum sum thou...... need to keep those cash more to feed them. but do you have it urself?? do you have any to give away or sale at cheap? I'm really lookin forward to have 1, and would really hope by the kind consideration to let me pay by installment.
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Oct 18 2006, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(shinjo @ Oct 18 2006, 01:00 PM) ic, thanks.. but not really able to afford paying them lum sum thou...... need to keep those cash more to feed them. but do you have it urself?? do you have any to give away or sale at cheap? I'm really lookin forward to have 1, and would really hope by the kind consideration to let me pay by installment. sorry.. dont have an extra.. would give one to you if i had one.. |
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Oct 18 2006, 02:03 PM
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Thanks... and bless all schnauzer... if got then let me know la.
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Oct 18 2006, 03:49 PM
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Oct 18 2006, 04:19 PM
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yeah very intelligent....
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Oct 18 2006, 04:27 PM
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can schnauzers stay in condos? im looking for a toy sized dog that i can sneak in /out for walks. prefereably infrequent barkers. any recommendations?
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Oct 18 2006, 04:49 PM
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infrequent barkers? then schnauzer is not your breed of choice. This breed is a yappy breed and also because they are from the Terrier group
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Oct 18 2006, 06:19 PM
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Wah. now got people stay in Setapak also? Hahah...
Yah, agree, Schnauzers cannot be condo dogs.... get lah dogs like shih tzus... they are not so barky, can train to not bark.... also another breed would be poodles I think.... but this must check again coz I have seen some noisy poodles. Maltese also a good choice for condo. |
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Oct 18 2006, 09:39 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Depends on the type of schnauzer you'll be having. Miniature Schnauzer are suitable for condos.Miniature schnauzers are quite active. They can live in condo's but they need thier regular walks. If your looking for a playmate its best to have a schnauzer pup. The adults tend to get tired easily & sleep alot. Schnauzers do not bark frequently unless something is wrong... |
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Oct 18 2006, 09:49 PM
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If the schnauzer everytime indoors, I'm sure without releasing its energy it can become barkish and destructive... but they are natural ratters.... love their personality hahaha... I almost got a MS but then when I set my eyes on CKCS... then I knew I had to get her...
Anyway, my friend has a MS mix, it's not noisy on its own but it is noisy with other dogs around. |
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Oct 18 2006, 10:03 PM
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Trainability Good with a consistent trainer who can keep it interesting With Children Very good With Animals Good with other pets Climate Tolerates cold fairly well Indoor / Outdoor Either; if indoors, needs plenty of exercise Exercise Reqd High; needs to play Grooming Reqd Daily brushing, occasional professional clipping, regular trimming on face. Beard needs to be kept clean after eating. |
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Oct 20 2006, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(hungheykwun @ Oct 18 2006, 04:27 PM) can schnauzers stay in condos? im looking for a toy sized dog that i can sneak in /out for walks. prefereably infrequent barkers. any recommendations? Yes, my MS stay in condo with me for 1 month plus d. She can be very yappy at first but will be fine if you tell her not to do so. She will understand. Also, MS is a good watch dog, she will growl and alert when someone pass by corridor (stranger) but sometimes, she will bark out loud. But thanks god, no one complaint bout me yet, even my neighbour downstairs also said she don't know i have a dog..hahaha.Anyway, my left and right neighbours are malay though. =_= |
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Oct 20 2006, 02:10 PM
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One thing about Schnauzers are that they are very intelligent. They somehow understand when you scold them. My MS pup now toilet trained
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Oct 20 2006, 02:35 PM
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They like to bark and chase after smaller animals!!
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QUOTE([E]velyn @ Oct 20 2006, 02:10 PM) One thing about Schnauzers are that they are very intelligent. They somehow understand when you scold them. My MS pup now toilet trained I'm still got problem on toilet train although she is 7 mths now. Most of the time she pee/poo in the cage only i let her out, so not much big problem. But she will still pee/poo outside and won't go automatically to the cage when doing her business.I want to toilet train too, but my toilet is WET all the time. Can share your experience how to toilet train? |
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QUOTE(kennyguy @ Oct 20 2006, 02:47 PM) I'm still got problem on toilet train although she is 7 mths now. Most of the time she pee/poo in the cage only i let her out, so not much big problem. But she will still pee/poo outside and won't go automatically to the cage when doing her business. WET toilet cannot lor.. If you were the dog, would you prefer a wet or dry place to do your "business"? of course dry right.. Like my pup, he's only three months old but with a lot of patients and training he did it.I want to toilet train too, but my toilet is WET all the time. Can share your experience how to toilet train? How to "toilet" train it. My pup loved to pee/poo on the small rugs. So we got rid of all the rugs but left one in the toilet. after a few days of him doing it on the rug in the toilet. we got rid of the rug and he continued doing his stuff without realising that the rug was gone already |
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QUOTE([E]velyn @ Oct 20 2006, 05:53 PM) WET toilet cannot lor.. If you were the dog, would you prefer a wet or dry place to do your "business"? of course dry right.. Like my pup, he's only three months old but with a lot of patients and training he did it. Good idea.How to "toilet" train it. My pup loved to pee/poo on the small rugs. So we got rid of all the rugs but left one in the toilet. after a few days of him doing it on the rug in the toilet. we got rid of the rug and he continued doing his stuff without realising that the rug was gone already Now my other question is, how to make her LOVE to pee/poo on the small rugs?OR make her stay? Whenever I see her going to do business and bring her to dedicated place, she will run away and not going her business anymore. I plan to make her pee/poo on a small tray. |
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QUOTE(kennyguy @ Oct 20 2006, 06:35 PM) Good idea. Just leave the rug where she likes doing her "business". Now my other question is, how to make her LOVE to pee/poo on the small rugs?OR make her stay? Whenever I see her going to do business and bring her to dedicated place, she will run away and not going her business anymore. I plan to make her pee/poo on a small tray. |
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QUOTE(kennyguy @ Oct 20 2006, 06:45 PM) THanks, BUT she likes doing everywhere. Best is to scold her and show her that she shouldnt do it there. Using a loud voice should scare her a little and she will try to run away. do it everytime she does it in the wrong place. She will eventually go and do her "business" somewhere else. If it still doesnt work. Lock her up in the toilet after her breakfast/lunch/dinner until she does her "business" then let her out. I also can't define which place she LIKES to do her business. Faint. |
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Oct 20 2006, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE([E]velyn @ Oct 20 2006, 06:55 PM) Best is to scold her and show her that she shouldnt do it there. Using a loud voice should scare her a little and she will try to run away. do it everytime she does it in the wrong place. She will eventually go and do her "business" somewhere else. If it still doesnt work. Lock her up in the toilet after her breakfast/lunch/dinner until she does her "business" then let her out. I tried that before, problem is, her poo time hard to predict, normally after morning meal, she will poo in 2 hrs ++ ( lock her for 2 hrs? ) or less than 1 hrs. See, the range so huge.Then at evening meal(feed her at 7pm), she wont poo at all till morning OR poo after many many hours, near 11pm something. Is it normal? I can't say lock her whole night in the toilet right? I also don't know how to make her poo by schedule. Already 1 month plus. |
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hehe.. my snauzer very blurr sum time...
like to eat.. attracted by food... let him stay outside..he will poo on the grass-field and that is the only spot he like.. jus need to clean up the mess every morning.. i think this should be ok for me.. He is a very good barker.. barker even when a mouse ran across the lawn.. Schauzer is a very brave breed.. they were used as medic dog during WWII.. My MoMo is very very brave.. happened few months back.. he challenged a Rotweiler.. hehe.. very ganas.. I like him... Schnauzer ROCKS |
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QUOTE(kennyguy @ Oct 20 2006, 10:37 PM) I tried that before, problem is, her poo time hard to predict, normally after morning meal, she will poo in 2 hrs ++ ( lock her for 2 hrs? ) or less than 1 hrs. See, the range so huge. Wah.. no choice lor like that.. you've got to let her be then.. unless you get a dog trainer to train her to pee/poo at specific timing Then at evening meal(feed her at 7pm), she wont poo at all till morning OR poo after many many hours, near 11pm something. Is it normal? I can't say lock her whole night in the toilet right? I also don't know how to make her poo by schedule. Already 1 month plus. QUOTE(Enferno @ Oct 20 2006, 10:54 PM) hehe.. my snauzer very blurr sum time... like to eat.. attracted by food... let him stay outside..he will poo on the grass-field and that is the only spot he like.. jus need to clean up the mess every morning.. i think this should be ok for me.. He is a very good barker.. barker even when a mouse ran across the lawn.. Schauzer is a very brave breed.. they were used as medic dog during WWII.. My MoMo is very very brave.. happened few months back.. he challenged a Rotweiler.. hehe.. very ganas.. I like him... Schnauzer ROCKS |
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forget to mention those small animals that looks like squirrels too...
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first time i have seen pics of MS..very pretty though
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HAahah
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Good book for first time MS owners. Info on selecting, housetraining, feeding, health care, grooming and more.. ( I got one myself
The Guide to Owning a Miniature Schnauzer From: Kinokuniya Price: RM 31.97 |
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@hard to find books on silkies nor MS in Ipoh tsk tsk
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QUOTE([E]velyn @ Oct 23 2006, 12:22 PM) Good book for first time MS owners. Info on selecting, housetraining, feeding, health care, grooming and more.. ( I got one myself I WANT ONE!!!The Guide to Owning a Miniature Schnauzer From: Kinokuniya Price: RM 31.97 But I live in Pg. Wonder MPH got sell or not. Can you buy one and post to me? |
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Cute one!
My family have a schnauzer too at my hometown, he lives happily with a rottweiler. |
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My little devil just 'destroy' a box which we stored Soya Bean drinks during midnight.
Anyhow, she did drink it. But small portion I think. Just want to know is good or bad for dog drink soya bean? AND, any side effect? Because I saw not far away from the 'crime scene' got 2 spots of her yellow bile that she vomitted. I suspect can be due to the paper box she destroyed and eat it, OR the soya bean. |
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QUOTE(yanyan @ May 18 2006, 11:50 AM) what's yr dog's weight ?QUOTE(kennyguy @ Nov 11 2006, 08:49 AM) My little devil just 'destroy' a box which we stored Soya Bean drinks during midnight. I think maybe she drank de soya bean, n not suitable for her to drink, so vomit Anyhow, she did drink it. But small portion I think. Just want to know is good or bad for dog drink soya bean? AND, any side effect? Because I saw not far away from the 'crime scene' got 2 spots of her yellow bile that she vomitted. I suspect can be due to the paper box she destroyed and eat it, OR the soya bean. Bt so far i never heard tat soya bean can harm any dogs QUOTE(hungheykwun @ Oct 18 2006, 04:27 PM) can schnauzers stay in condos? im looking for a toy sized dog that i can sneak in /out for walks. prefereably infrequent barkers. any recommendations? U can try shih tsu or maltese lo. Cos they are not too active. But i'll advice u not to take silky terrier. Cos OMG, it's very very active. Scared it get too active, very hard to sneak out. heheh |
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hello, i just got a miniature schnauzer... he is 2months old and named him Julz Jr. @ Poni.
>.< will upload his pics soon where u all usually go for on M.S Thread. |
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Hi everybody !
I owned a MS too. Her name is Carla now bout 20 months old. Got her from a show breeder. Both her parents are Msian Champ an originated from Brazilian show line. Anyway I don't have chance to show my Carla bcoz in order to join show MS coat must be hand pluck. For me, MS is a great dog, very alert and intelligent. They will bark when they sense somethings like stranger, mouse, lizard so they make a good watch dog too. This excessive barking are something quite annoying but I get used to it oredi. The most difficult part of owning a MS I think is grooming. So u guys do your own grooming or send to pet groomer ? |
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i just send it groomer today, cost me rm30:cut,wash and trim, puppy size price >.<
cool, brazilian... well im not sure whats my MS line, cuz i feel like been scammed... the seller told me its pure White MS, but the baby doesnt look white at all, its brownies black, and the seller told me it will shed off and bcome white... hrmmm hopefully it does... T.T but what the heck, cuz my Poni seems to be very obedience, loving him all the time. |
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Which groomer u sent to, ok ar the groomer?
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QUOTE(henggy @ Dec 20 2006, 05:32 PM) i just send it groomer today, cost me rm30:cut,wash and trim, puppy size price >.< Wow RM30 is cheap. White schnauzer turning brown ! Izit MKA one ?cool, brazilian... well im not sure whats my MS line, cuz i feel like been scammed... the seller told me its pure White MS, but the baby doesnt look white at all, its brownies black, and the seller told me it will shed off and bcome white... hrmmm hopefully it does... T.T but what the heck, cuz my Poni seems to be very obedience, loving him all the time. |
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Hello...
I DIY... groom on my own... it's fun but her hair grow fast... I usually groom her every month... but just last Saturday I groomed her again & this time really short... not so glamorous anymore... This post has been edited by Sc@ryM@ry: Dec 21 2006, 03:38 PM |
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QUOTE(henggy @ Dec 20 2006, 05:32 PM) i just send it groomer today, cost me rm30:cut,wash and trim, puppy size price >.< Wa, u send to which groomer? WHere? Quite cheap ler the price. My place here around 50 to 60 lacool, brazilian... well im not sure whats my MS line, cuz i feel like been scammed... the seller told me its pure White MS, but the baby doesnt look white at all, its brownies black, and the seller told me it will shed off and bcome white... hrmmm hopefully it does... T.T but what the heck, cuz my Poni seems to be very obedience, loving him all the time. |
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Any shcnauzer fans/owner going for the
The Malaysia K9 Day 2007 that will be held on January 14th, 2007 at Central Park, Bandar Utama, Kuala Lumpur ???? do u all do a gathering b4 the event? or something? i need to make up some preparation if do. LOL |
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sounds interesting - maybe we can group together ...... what time is the event?
cute ms you've got there henggy ...... my ms is 7mths old now and she's absolutely adorable |
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mine just 3 months old.
no MKA...i think got scam jor T.T , those shop ppl say if white M.S its totally white even they puppy... but nvrmind lar...its fate...stuck with him jor...see how it goes when it's shed its fur. groomer at s'ban T.T not KL .... price diff for sure. groomer its ok |
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just 3 months ah???
better don't bring him our leh!!! stay at home lah!! will be easily get infected wait until 1 year old just bring him out ok?? |
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QUOTE(badguy @ Jan 6 2007, 10:08 AM) just 3 months ah??? dun worry dun need 1 year so long... can bring out 1 to 2 weeks after complete 3 vaccination... by then ur pup will have all the amour to fight the deases... better don't bring him our leh!!! stay at home lah!! will be easily get infected wait until 1 year old just bring him out ok?? |
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hahahaha.... wat if my pup only got his 2nd armor, havent reach to 3rd armor >.<
darn it.... then i have to go empty handed? sound no interesting at all... hahahahaa.... so u all wanna do a gathering? its start at 8.15am.... wat time wanna meet and should we meet at the entrance... ? http://www.puppy.com.my/k9day2007/ |
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oh ya, wat brand of pet food u all givin to ur terriers or schnauzer?
mine is blackwood 3000, (its seems to be for adults pets but its also can be given to pups tats specially have easilly have skin problems and allergies, and its come with 1 size fits all >.<) |
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my ms started on science diet but i'm switching for to nutriedge ... so far both seem ok but i find science diet more oily
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QUOTE(henggy @ Jan 2 2007, 04:36 PM) Any shcnauzer fans/owner going for the There will usually be a good number of MS there as one of the puppy dot com 'kaki' is a huge MS fanThe Malaysia K9 Day 2007 that will be held on January 14th, 2007 at Central Park, Bandar Utama, Kuala Lumpur ???? do u all do a gathering b4 the event? or something? i need to make up some preparation if do. LOL The park gets quite muddy if there's rain the day b4 so you will have to dress accordingly (jeans & sport shoes) For your furkid a leash, water bottle and some small plastic bags to pick up his pooh. QUOTE(henggy @ Jan 6 2007, 01:33 AM) mine just 3 months old. MS will never shed their fur. It just gets lighter as they age. I too have a silver MS, she's considearbly 'whiter' now than when she was younger. I've seen a pure white MS once around Damansara (no, not a maltese with a schnauzer cut)no MKA...i think got scam jor T.T , those shop ppl say if white M.S its totally white even they puppy... but nvrmind lar...its fate...stuck with him jor...see how it goes when it's shed its fur. groomer at s'ban T.T not KL .... price diff for sure. groomer its ok Check your furkid for nicks and cuts after you get her back from the groomer, especially around the ears. Never hurts to be careful. QUOTE(henggy @ Jan 6 2007, 07:29 PM) hahahaha.... wat if my pup only got his 2nd armor, havent reach to 3rd armor >.< If your furkid hasn't had his/her third shot yet, please don't bring him/her along. With the amount of furkids there, imagine the amount of germs floating around.darn it.... then i have to go empty handed? sound no interesting at all... hahahahaa.... so u all wanna do a gathering? its start at 8.15am.... wat time wanna meet and should we meet at the entrance... ? http://www.puppy.com.my/k9day2007/ Go empty handed if you have to, and go bug all those MS owners for advice. QUOTE(henggy @ Jan 6 2007, 07:46 PM) oh ya, wat brand of pet food u all givin to ur terriers or schnauzer? Blackwood 3000 i'm not too sure if its for adults or not... but it is generally best not to feed puppies adult food. Different diet requirements. For my two MS, I fed them H&F Solid Gold Lamb n Rice Puppy Formula for the first year or so b4 switching to Eagle Pack Holistic Select varieties. Aside from the initial month or two, they've never had any skin problems (touch wood, touch wood).mine is blackwood 3000, (its seems to be for adults pets but its also can be given to pups tats specially have easilly have skin problems and allergies, and its come with 1 size fits all >.<) Food selection varies from dog to dog, so you might have to experiment. California Natural and Canidae are also supposed to be good, but one of my babies get diarrhea whenever I feed them that. Collect samples from pet stores and try first. There's something called Novacoat which is a kind of oil which you add into their pellets, helps with flakky skin. Don't overuse as its fattening. |
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QUOTE(kennyguy @ Nov 11 2006, 08:49 AM) My little devil just 'destroy' a box which we stored Soya Bean drinks during midnight. Anyhow, she did drink it. But small portion I think. Just want to know is good or bad for dog drink soya bean? AND, any side effect? Because I saw not far away from the 'crime scene' got 2 spots of her yellow bile that she vomitted. I suspect can be due to the paper box she destroyed and eat it, OR the soya bean. Sorry, but I lost the link and the table formatting is lost when I cut and paste. Items to avoid Reasons to avoid Alcoholic beverages Can cause intoxication, coma, and death. Baby food Can contain onion powder, which can be toxic to dogs. (Please see onion below.) Can also result in nutritional deficiencies, if fed in large amounts. Bones from fish, poultry, or other meat sources Can cause obstruction or laceration of the digestive system. Cat food Generally too high in protein and fats. Chocolate, coffee, tea, and other caffeine Contain caffeine, theobromine, or theophylline, which can be toxic and affect the heart and nervous systems. Citrus oil extracts Can cause vomiting. Fat trimmings Can cause pancreatitis. Grapes and raisins Contain an unknown toxin, which can damage the kidneys. Hops Unknown compound causes panting, increased heart rate, elevated temperature, seizures, and death. Human vitamin supplements containing iron Can damage the lining of the digestive system and be toxic to the other organs including the liver and kidneys. Large amounts of liver Can cause Vitamin A toxicity, which affects muscles and bones. Macadamia nuts Contain an unknown toxin, which can affect the digestive and nervous systems and muscle. Marijuana Can depress the nervous system, cause vomiting, and changes in the heart rate. Milk and other dairy products Some adult dogs and cats do not have sufficient amounts of the enzyme lactase, which breaks down the lactose in milk. This can result in diarrhea. Lactose-free milk products are available for pets. Moldy or spoiled food, garbage Can contain multiple toxins causing vomiting and diarrhea and can also affect other organs. Mushrooms Can contain toxins, which may affect multiple systems in the body, cause shock, and result in death. Onions and garlic (raw, cooked, or powder) Contain sulfoxides and disulfides, which can damage red blood cells and cause anemia. Cats are more susceptible than dogs. Garlic is less toxic than onions. Persimmons Seeds can cause intestinal obstruction and enteritis. Pits from peaches and plums Can cause obstruction of the digestive tract. Potato, rhubarb, and tomato leaves; potato and tomato stems Contain oxalates, which can affect the digestive, nervous, and urinary systems. This is more of a problem in livestock. Raw eggs Contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin). This can lead to skin and hair coat problems. Raw eggs may also contain Salmonella. Raw fish Can result in a thiamine (a B vitamin) deficiency leading to loss of appetite, seizures, and in severe cases, death. More common if raw fish is fed regularly. Salt If eaten in large quantities it may lead to electrolyte imbalances. String Can become trapped in the digestive system; called a "string foreign body." Sugary foods Can lead to obesity, dental problems, and possibly diabetes mellitus. Table scraps (in large amounts) Table scraps are not nutritionally balanced. They should never be more than 10% of the diet. Fat should be trimmed from meat; bones should not be fed. Tobacco Contains nicotine, which affects the digestive and nervous systems. Can result in rapid heart beat, collapse, coma, and death. Yeast dough Can expand and produce gas in the digestive system, causing pain and possible rupture of the stomach or intestines. |
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guess i`ll be going empty handed >.< ...well i bring along a M.S dolly. hehehehe.... to prove tat im a M.S fans. ok those who bringing M.S time for me to bug u all at tere... muahahahaa...
darn i was alwayz wanting to let my pup to drink alcohol.. hhehee... RED WINE any puppy? and sometimes i do smoke infront of my pup... well offcuz i didnt blow the smoke infront on him... but well i cant control the wind thou... goshhhh im killing my pup... T.T |
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i also bring ms dolly can ah?
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LOL COOL....now we got 2 Dolly MS and a bunch of REAL MS to acompany >.<
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black dog in a dark room is it...?
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QUOTE(arraille @ Mar 1 2007, 02:57 PM) got some problem lah , dunno what problem with the attactment ...Added on March 1, 2007, 3:38 pm QUOTE(henggy @ Jan 10 2007, 01:19 AM) ur schnanuzer look a bit unique . This post has been edited by Digitral: Mar 1 2007, 03:38 PM |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 1 2007, 02:46 PM) sooo cute! i'll post mine tonite This post has been edited by kitman: Mar 1 2007, 05:18 PM |
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QUOTE(kitman @ Mar 1 2007, 05:17 PM) hahhahaha ....ya my lui lui very very manja one , sumtimes see i angry at her , she will try to act cute , and do innocent look in front of me .. how cute ..sumtimes wont angry her so long time , after a minute will forget what she done edi . but she now less make me angry ...last time when she 5 month old always make me angry lol ... cuz still puppy mah Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Hi Dog lover,
introduce my mini schnauzer named bitebite to you all. Little playful fellow that like to bite my foot, leg and hand that we have to rename him from spike to bite bite. He's about 8 months now and 6.2KG. He tail is not docked and i think it's beautiful that way as he will wag his tail ferociously when i come home. What a good "welcom home" from my no.1 fan. Kinda pity him when i went to work everyday as he will be in the cage whole day. He will terrorize my living room and anything within his path. You can view him at http://bitebite.blogsome.com/ but kinda outdated. |
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Mar 27 2007, 01:53 PM
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such a cute name
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Mar 27 2007, 01:57 PM
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ohh such a cutie haha are u guys cumin to the pets gathering???
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Mar 27 2007, 01:58 PM
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Mar 27 2007, 03:25 PM
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hahah finally i found schnanuzer owner here now !!! hahahha ...less schnanuzer owner here >.< ur mini schnanuzer still very small and young ler from the pic i see . well let me introduce my luilui , she 9 month old now
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Mar 27 2007, 03:53 PM
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LOL i can see your luilui everywhere
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Mar 27 2007, 04:09 PM
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Mar 27 2007, 04:22 PM
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you like or she like? LOL
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Mar 27 2007, 05:07 PM
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Mar 27 2007, 05:08 PM
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huh? what tokin u?
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Mar 27 2007, 05:12 PM
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Mar 27 2007, 05:14 PM
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HAhaha... I almost got myself a MS but when I first saw Chelsea... cannot tahan her face and character... too adorable. Some say she looks like chameleon LOL.
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Mar 27 2007, 05:15 PM
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wut breeed is chelsea?
Added on March 27, 2007, 5:16 pmdigitral, wut tokin u leh? i was trying to say ur lui like posing jek. she know how to take photo one meh? DUHHHHHHHHHH This post has been edited by babymiki: Mar 27 2007, 05:16 PM |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 27 2007, 05:14 PM) HAhaha... I almost got myself a MS but when I first saw Chelsea... cannot tahan her face and character... too adorable. Some say she looks like chameleon LOL. crazymouse_yyh u got MS too ? show me pic of ur Ms yo , u know what today i saw summer pet shop sell Ms mix for rm700 ..oh my god ..how come a mix breed ....sell so xpensive , and there one more mix breed sell too is a chi hua hua mix and summer pet store sell rm 750 =.= sigh , why nowasday got so many mix breed come out ...bad =.= |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 27 2007, 05:15 PM) wut breeed is chelsea? Chelsea is a CKCS... but when see her face sure cannot tahan her.Added on March 27, 2007, 5:16 pmdigitral, wut tokin u leh? i was trying to say ur lui like posing jek. she know how to take photo one meh? DUHHHHHHHHHH A pic of her when she was a pup at the breeder's place |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:21 PM
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ehhhh so pretty lol come for the gathering on 7th april ler
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Mar 27 2007, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 27 2007, 05:15 PM) wut breeed is chelsea? Not my lui lui take pic la , is my lui lui love to let me take pic == aduh, same thing mar , no need so obvious to xplain gua =.= ...hmm yea my furkid know how 2 pose wan when i wan to help her take pic lo . why so strange wo . my friend groomer 3 dogs go studio oso very good in posing...dun heart feeling ok ? u seem so angry omg .. Added on March 27, 2007, 5:16 pmdigitral, wut tokin u leh? i was trying to say ur lui like posing jek. she know how to take photo one meh? DUHHHHHHHHHH |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:24 PM
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LOL who angry first? not me man hahah u dun so lui yan lar
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Mar 27 2007, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 27 2007, 05:19 PM) Chelsea is a CKCS... but when see her face sure cannot tahan her. hahaha CKCS very nice breed . it breed name oso make people proud of it edi lor .crazymouse_yyh how much u bought it that day ? i saw one at 1u ..pet wonderland . all of those dog ...i see almost 1 year edi , oso the same breed and same dog , no body buy from them . erm , the CKCS there around rm 1800 + if im not mistaken lar...but not puppy edi i think , adult edi ...A pic of her when she was a pup at the breeder's place |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 27 2007, 05:18 PM) crazymouse_yyh u got MS too ? show me pic of ur Ms Nah, just almost got.... was about to get from a breeder when a friend(chelsea's breeder) intro CKCS to me... saw chelsea and straight away heart melted liao.yo , u know what today i saw summer pet shop sell Ms mix for rm700 ..oh my god ..how come a mix breed ....sell so xpensive , and there one more mix breed sell too is a chi hua hua mix and summer pet store sell rm 750 =.= sigh , why nowasday got so many mix breed come out ...bad =.= These days people at petshops just wanna get more money. My friend bought a really nice MS mix silky terrier for only RM400... worth it. Here are some pics Both are brothers but 1 looks like a MS but another looks like Silky... both are MS mix Silky heheheh... kinda cute. The size is really small. The one looks like MS is smaller than a normal MS while the one looks like Silky weighs only 2kg. |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:27 PM
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goodness for one second i thought they were pure silkies cause look similar to my friend's silky haha
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Mar 27 2007, 05:27 PM
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Mar 27 2007, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Mar 27 2007, 05:25 PM) hahaha CKCS very nice breed . it breed name oso make people proud of it edi lor .crazymouse_yyh how much u bought it that day ? i saw one at 1u ..pet wonderland . all of those dog ...i see almost 1 year edi , oso the same breed and same dog , no body buy from them . erm , the CKCS there around rm 1800 + if im not mistaken lar...but not puppy edi i think , adult edi ... Hmmm... I also not sure bout the price... my dad paid and won't tell me how much LOL.... Pets wonderland the petshop, most of their dogs are from puppy farms in Australia... so they put imported, sure lah attractive but then nobody buys coz of price and quality. |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 27 2007, 05:26 PM) Nah, just almost got.... was about to get from a breeder when a friend(chelsea's breeder) intro CKCS to me... saw chelsea and straight away heart melted liao. hahaha tot u got a Ms ! but CKCS reli nice la ...how much u bought it ?yala so many mix breed sold at summer pet shop . and it didnt wrote what breed it mix . the picture u show mix with silky is nice and worth rm 400 . summer pet shop dunno mix what breed and sold rm 700 . really xpensive la ...These days people at petshops just wanna get more money. My friend bought a really nice MS mix silky terrier for only RM400... worth it. Here are some pics Both are brothers but 1 looks like a MS but another looks like Silky... both are MS mix Silky heheheh... kinda cute. The size is really small. The one looks like MS is smaller than a normal MS while the one looks like Silky weighs only 2kg. |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:32 PM
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iwhy must i be angry only can say u lui yan gar? FYI, i'm a rude gal. -.- so wuts wrong wit dat? LOL
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Mar 27 2007, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 27 2007, 05:28 PM) Hmmm... I also not sure bout the price... my dad paid and won't tell me how much LOL.... yea those breed ...i still remember what pet wonderland @ 1u ' s breed they got ...i think really almost 1 year edi , and those puppy grow up to adult dog edi . yea , is very xpensive . haha ur dad dun wan let u know ah , so good ler....i think very xpensive wan but sure wont xpensive than pet shop Pets wonderland the petshop, most of their dogs are from puppy farms in Australia... so they put imported, sure lah attractive but then nobody buys coz of price and quality. Added on March 27, 2007, 5:35 pm QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 27 2007, 05:32 PM) iwhy must i be angry only can say u lui yan gar? FYI, i'm a rude gal. -.- so wuts wrong wit dat? LOL aiyo forget it lah ...u not rude girl la . just be more polite la .crazymouse, see my friend's silky :- http://nienietong.blogspot.com/2007/02/two...with-kaima.html im a male ler , so dun call me lui yan lor ... guy dun like to hear wan ler . but anyway forget it la , small matter mah ^^ smile back This post has been edited by Digitral: Mar 27 2007, 05:35 PM |
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Mar 27 2007, 05:37 PM
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Mar 27 2007, 05:41 PM
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haih it's sad to see these dogs get mixed. i'd be going to ss2 pasar mlm tonight. haha it's near the McD isit summer pet shop? i only know how to go murni and island cafe.
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Mar 27 2007, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(babymiki @ Mar 27 2007, 05:52 PM) haih it's sad to see these dogs get mixed. i'd be going to ss2 pasar mlm tonight. haha it's near the McD isit summer pet shop? i only know how to go murni and island cafe. yea , i think u will have shock when u see mix breed sell so xpensive oso .today ss2 no pasar mlm wor leng lui , only monday got pasar mlm at ss2.but ss2 pasar mlm very huge wan , u went before ? lots of food can taste there LOL err summer pet shop is neat watson wan . if near MCD wan i think is called sea park pet shop . haha seri murni lots of people at night wan la .. good for yum cha , and island cafe so far i went there for dinner only , but never see anybody bring furkid there , but what i heard from rettiever thread can bring along furkid go there , but then im not very sure , so far u got saw people bring furkid go island cafe or not ? This post has been edited by Digitral: Mar 27 2007, 06:02 PM |
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QUOTE(henggy @ Jan 10 2007, 01:19 AM) O_o.. i always thought MS comes with short tail.White MS looks so nice QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Mar 27 2007, 05:26 PM) Nah, just almost got.... was about to get from a breeder when a friend(chelsea's breeder) intro CKCS to me... saw chelsea and straight away heart melted liao. Wow, how old are these 2?These days people at petshops just wanna get more money. My friend bought a really nice MS mix silky terrier for only RM400... worth it. Here are some pics » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 27 2007, 08:25 PM
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Petshops wanna earn profit.... ai, they get purebreeds at RM600, then they sell at RM1500 above... smart rite? All profit go to them only.
Anyway, those 2 MS mix silky, now 1 year plus already.... The breeder actually show her dogs but 1 day accident, MS got mated by a silky... was suppose to mate the MS with MS wan but then the silky so fast go and get the MS hahahah.... but end up only 4 pups I think, so my friend bought 1 and another her friend bought... The MS looking is called Pepper... but I forgot the name of the Silky looking one. HAHAH... My friend who owns Pepper bought a pure silky with cert for only RM700... so... Rm700 for mixbreed a bit too much lah. babymiki, Your friend's silky is so cute! Alert face. Small fella hahahah.... |
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QUOTE(kitman @ May 23 2006, 09:38 AM) pure breed MS should not have white fur ... only the black can have white patch on the chest. silver/light grey are ok. pure MS has white color, only that our MKA does not accept such colordon't know if suitable for appartment but i believe all apartment/condo have rules - best you check with the mgt if pet dogs are allowed. |
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Mar 27 2007, 08:44 PM
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white MS is reccessive gene... like white boxers lah. Even white boxers, if the parents both got MKA and the pup is white, cannot get registered also coz is not standard.
In US, many non-standard coloured dogs are spayed or nuetered so that the reccessive gene won't be passed down... but in Asia, not many people do it so that is why can see quite a number of White MS becoming a favourite here. And some breeders taking advantage of this too. Saw a breeder once selling white MS for RM1800 with no cert. |
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QUOTE(henggy @ Dec 20 2006, 05:32 PM) i just send it groomer today, cost me rm30:cut,wash and trim, puppy size price >.< henggy, i told you that once you shave off all Poni's coat, the fur will become white during its growing stage..cool, brazilian... well im not sure whats my MS line, cuz i feel like been scammed... the seller told me its pure White MS, but the baby doesnt look white at all, its brownies black, and the seller told me it will shed off and bcome white... hrmmm hopefully it does... T.T but what the heck, cuz my Poni seems to be very obedience, loving him all the time. Added on March 27, 2007, 8:54 pm QUOTE(henggy @ Jan 10 2007, 01:19 AM) he's cute.. can post more photos of him???This post has been edited by junnie87: Mar 27 2007, 08:54 PM |
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Mar 28 2007, 09:32 AM
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[dunno how's poni now ? dunno how does Poni look like when it grow older? want to see Poni 's pic too
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digitral .. ur lui lui hard to housebreak ma?? I'm thinking of getting a second dog somewhere in June or July - either MS or Toy Poodle. But then u noe lar ... I still prefer MS coz it's my favourite of all breed
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 7 2007, 01:41 AM) digitral .. ur lui lui hard to housebreak ma?? I'm thinking of getting a second dog somewhere in June or July - either MS or Toy Poodle. But then u noe lar ... I still prefer MS coz it's my favourite of all breed syrian ,well my lui lui quite easy to train due to my gf never fed up and always train until luilui success the training. well , dun worry , if u really love a MS , u can have it . but then ms is alert , it will hear a bit sound from outside then it will bark , but u can control and train it not to bark once it to stop.well housebreaking method , i think every owner got own method to housebreak it furkid right . hmm, allow me to know where do u usually allow ur shih tzu pee and poo ? well i found it i allow my furkid pee and poo at toilet is more covenient to me , after my lui lui finish it bussiness , i will just use tissue to wipe the pee and use tissue to pick the poo. dun worry , every dog is easy to train ='D |
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On newspaper lor. Coz I'm staying in a unit with a few ppl, so, i train lucky to pee poo on newspaper in my room in his playpen. The problem with lucky is when he's in his playpen, he noes how to behave and pee poo at right spot. When he's roaming around either in my room or in the living room on his own, he tends to cincai pee poo on the floor one. Seems like he doesn't noe how to get back to the playpen to pee poo. Sometimes when I catch him on the spot, I'll carry him fast fast to the tray with newspaper to pee poo - then when he did his bisnis thr, i gave him treat. But he still doesn't seem to noe the concept wor
As for MS's barking, I think I'll be able to handle it .. hehe. Last time Lucky also like that one. Hear little sound, then bark and when he sees me taking his food bowl, he'll bark like crazy. But I managed to teach him NOT to bark. Sometimes still got bark but lesser already and more obedient already. His only problem now is still housebreaking This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 7 2007, 09:48 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 7 2007, 09:46 PM) On newspaper lor. Coz I'm staying in a unit with a few ppl, so, i train lucky to pee poo on newspaper in my room in his playpen. The problem with lucky is when he's in his playpen, he noes how to behave and pee poo at right spot. When he's roaming around either in my room or in the living room on his own, he tends to cincai pee poo on the floor one. Seems like he doesn't noe how to get back to the playpen to pee poo. Sometimes when I catch him on the spot, I'll carry him fast fast to the tray with newspaper to pee poo - then when he did his bisnis thr, i gave him treat. But he still doesn't seem to noe the concept wor hehehe , i think u have decide to buy a Ms edi ='D well im sure u can handle it if u got the patience and spend ur time and love to teach it right .haha , what u have tell me tat ur shih tzu is quite alert too , but is good thing if u can control it bark . then i think u will not consider other breed edi , and want Ms edi ='P but dun worry , as long as u love it , u can own it right . dun worry for those traning problem and method of teaching it . im sure u can manage it nicely.As for MS's barking, I think I'll be able to handle it .. hehe. Last time Lucky also like that one. Hear little sound, then bark and when he sees me taking his food bowl, he'll bark like crazy. But I managed to teach him NOT to bark. Sometimes still got bark but lesser already and more obedient already. His only problem now is still housebreaking well it seem like ur shih tzu like to make u not that happy with those housebreaking problem haha, well syrian,you give Lucky treat , and lucky didnt show any happy expression ? well , next time show tat after he pee or poo at a correct place , show that u are very very happy after it pee at the correct spot , the more correct spot it did , the more reward and big treat it get . Haha. try it |
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When I give him treat ar, he's super happy and he will ask for more
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 8 2007, 11:24 AM) When I give him treat ar, he's super happy and he will ask for more hahahaha. yea , my furkid do love treat too when i shake the treat container , my furkid sure very happy ='P so u decide to buy a ms soon ? well im sure u miss ur shih tzu , because ur furkid not with u now |
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Ya .. miss Lucky a lot. But aunt insisted that she wanna keep Lucky and that she will get me a replacement. She said Lucky is very very guai and follow her everywhere except housebreaking problem
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 8 2007, 10:17 PM) Ya .. miss Lucky a lot. But aunt insisted that she wanna keep Lucky and that she will get me a replacement. She said Lucky is very very guai and follow her everywhere except housebreaking problem hahaha no wonder .well , auntie love lucky so much and steal lucky from u >< hmmm , so when u will buy a shcnanuzer ='D hehehehe!! i bet u do love schnanuzer very much like me. actually i love all breed la ... |
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not sure yet but definitely not now lor coz now busy with midterms and finals are around the corner. SHould be getting one somewhere in June or July when sem just start. When sem starts, I'm kinda free and can spend lotsa time with the little doggie .. kekeke ..
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 9 2007, 12:58 AM) not sure yet but definitely not now lor coz now busy with midterms and finals are around the corner. SHould be getting one somewhere in June or July when sem just start. When sem starts, I'm kinda free and can spend lotsa time with the little doggie .. kekeke .. oh ,then u got lots of time to do research for Ms then . see other breeder 's ms . |
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yaya ... searching for more info on MS when i haf da time ..
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Oh, Syrian is getting another puppy, no wonder lah.......haha.......
But just a piece of advise, MS is yappy and active wor. If u r staying wif frens, do ask their opinions 1st. Sometimes, when someone wans silence, then suddenly ur MS bising2, it will be very fed up one....... Just really ask ur frens 1st. |
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 9 2007, 04:35 PM) Oh, Syrian is getting another puppy, no wonder lah.......haha....... well actually if got train , i dun think Ms will noisy lor.i meet a owner at pet safari last sunday after my ferret seminar. well the owner tell me that Ms characterlistic is noisy but if u well train , u can control it not to bark right , just like my furkid , i got control it not to bark when it bark on those unnessary matter But just a piece of advise, MS is yappy and active wor. If u r staying wif frens, do ask their opinions 1st. Sometimes, when someone wans silence, then suddenly ur MS bising2, it will be very fed up one....... Just really ask ur frens 1st. Added on April 9, 2007, 5:56 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 9 2007, 04:28 PM) yaya ... searching for more info on MS when i haf da time .. hahahha yeah , is better do buy from breeder . anyway hope u can get a MS soon . This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 9 2007, 05:56 PM |
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yayya .. staying at condo. About the issue regarding barking, I think I should be able to control it not to bark. I managed to train my shih tzu not to bark .... he barks too when he first came and sometimes bark for no reason. Sometimes coz he wanan get outta playpen and sometimes hungry. Mostly he barks when no one's at home (housemate told me). But now he doesn't bark that often oledi (housemate told me too) .. hehe. So, it shouldn't be an issue to me. The only issue i'm concerned about is housebreaking
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 9 2007, 09:56 PM) yayya .. staying at condo. About the issue regarding barking, I think I should be able to control it not to bark. I managed to train my shih tzu not to bark .... he barks too when he first came and sometimes bark for no reason. Sometimes coz he wanan get outta playpen and sometimes hungry. Mostly he barks when no one's at home (housemate told me). But now he doesn't bark that often oledi (housemate told me too) .. hehe. So, it shouldn't be an issue to me. The only issue i'm concerned about is housebreaking hahahahha u told me edi ...if u know how 2 manage it . characterlistic oso can change if we well train it . house breaking problem no worries syrian . well , i found out white palace wee wee pad is a good method for ur furkid . and is reasonable price too . as the wee wee pad can absorb the pee. then puppy after pee wont step on the pee. although i no let my furkid try before because mu furkid when it pee , i will straight away wipe the pee at toilet . |
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i gave my bf's aunt some floormats too. So, the pee will be directly absorbed in the newspapers without Lucky stepping on them - da floormats act as a prevention
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Apr 9 2007, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 9 2007, 10:30 PM) i gave my bf's aunt some floormats too. So, the pee will be directly absorbed in the newspapers without Lucky stepping on them - da floormats act as a prevention that's a good idea oso . well different owner got different method to teach own furkid to housebreaking . well believe in urself then !!! well wondering how ur ms look like then , wish next time pet gathering u will bring ur ms . hehehe |
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Apr 9 2007, 11:50 PM
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LOL .. think so fast until next gathering already
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 9 2007, 11:50 PM) LOL .. think so fast until next gathering already hahah yea , schnanuzer got three colour . black , salt and pepper amd white . but then mka list dun have white schnanuzer . hehehe fur colour is depend what u like wan . hehehe yea , pet gathering is fun . next time join us then ='PPP |
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Apr 19 2007, 11:03 PM
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Ta-Dah~~
Jz now he was walking around with his mommy at the breeder's place. Then why now he is so quiet one?? He dun dare to move one wor. Just stand at one corner ; otherwise, he just lay on the floor. I think he misses his mommy ler and his face looks sad Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Apr 19 2007, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 10 2007, 12:09 AM) hahah yea , schnanuzer got three colour . You missed out on 1 colour... Black and Silver.... so it is 4 colours but only 3 are recognized by MKA.black , salt and pepper amd white . but then mka list dun have white schnanuzer . hehehe fur colour is depend what u like wan . hehehe yea , pet gathering is fun . next time join us then ='PPP I just found an old pic of Silky terrier mixed MS puppies that belongs to my friends.... sigh, damn cute. Added on April 19, 2007, 11:26 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 19 2007, 11:03 PM) Ta-Dah~~ Ohhh... he is very dark hahaha... cute dark face. Jz now he was walking around with his mommy at the breeder's place. Then why now he is so quiet one?? He dun dare to move one wor. Just stand at one corner ; otherwise, he just lay on the floor. I think he misses his mommy ler and his face looks sad He is shy.... when he was at the breeder's place, did he come to you or you go to him? When you were at the breeder's place, did you hold and carry the pup? Got struggle or lay very still? Normally this little thing can teach you if he is a brave or timid dog. For now, I think he feels lost and lonely coz separated from mom liao... This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Apr 19 2007, 11:26 PM |
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 19 2007, 11:24 PM) You missed out on 1 colour... Black and Silver.... so it is 4 colours but only 3 are recognized by MKA. The silky mix MS is super cute lar !!!! OMG - looks exactly like MS. U didn't curi one from ur friend I just found an old pic of Silky terrier mixed MS puppies that belongs to my friends.... sigh, damn cute. Added on April 19, 2007, 11:26 pm Ohhh... he is very dark hahaha... cute dark face. He is shy.... when he was at the breeder's place, did he come to you or you go to him? When you were at the breeder's place, did you hold and carry the pup? Got struggle or lay very still? Normally this little thing can teach you if he is a brave or timid dog. For now, I think he feels lost and lonely coz separated from mom liao... At first he just followed his mommy around and his mommy barked fiercely at us - i backed off. Then the breeder took the mommy in and I took the first step to go to that puppy. Then I carried him up and he didn't really struggle - got struggle a bit. THen i put him down and I made him lay with his tummy up. I massage massage his tummy, he jz let me do it. He didn't hesitate at all - hehe. Then after a while, he started licking my hands. So, i bought him. I think he is a very very shy and timid dog. But his face certainly tells me he misses his mommy a lot Added on April 19, 2007, 11:34 pmthe owner told me he shud poo after 10 minutes after he makan. But until now he hasn't poo yet wor. Didn't pee at all too since he came home with me until now. Just lay on the floor or sit at corner looking around. When I approach him, he also no feel one - jz look around with his sad sad eyes .. sigh. But he's cute .. hehe Added on April 19, 2007, 11:35 pmall my housemates said he is very kolian with his sad eyes looking around This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 19 2007, 11:36 PM |
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Apr 19 2007, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 19 2007, 11:33 PM) The silky mix MS is super cute lar !!!! OMG - looks exactly like MS. U didn't curi one from ur friend Hahaha... got 2 friends so 2 puppies loh.... the left one looks more like Silky terrier now.... the right one became slivery like a MS... but then his size is smaller than MS. I'll try and get recent pictures hahha.... They were both from a breeder who breeds MS and silky but the MS accidently got pregnant by Silky hahaha....At first he just followed his mommy around and his mommy barked fiercely at us - i backed off. Then the breeder took the mommy in and I took the first step to go to that puppy. Then I carried him up and he didn't really struggle - got struggle a bit. THen i put him down and I made him lay with his tummy up. I massage massage his tummy, he jz let me do it. He didn't hesitate at all - hehe. Then after a while, he started licking my hands. So, i bought him. I think he is a very very shy and timid dog. But his face certainly tells me he misses his mommy a lot Added on April 19, 2007, 11:34 pmthe owner told me he shud poo after 10 minutes after he makan. But until now he hasn't poo yet wor. Didn't pee at all too since he came home with me until now. Just lay on the floor or sit at corner looking around. When I approach him, he also no feel one - jz look around with his sad sad eyes .. sigh. But he's cute .. hehe Added on April 19, 2007, 11:35 pmall my housemates said he is very kolian with his sad eyes looking around Well, he does sound slightly timid.... if he struggle a bit when you carried him is good, means he is not gonna be a shy dog lah.... just a bit timid only hehehe... Now to him, everything is new so he will be sad and blur blur... give him a few days, then later sure ok wan. |
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He finally got up and explore the room. But hor, when he saw me walking towards him - he insert reverse gear
Added on April 20, 2007, 12:05 amHe's borned a day before valentine's day - 13th February 2007. Can give some suggestion wud shud i call him?? Easy to call one This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 20 2007, 12:05 AM |
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Apr 20 2007, 12:23 AM
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How about kishou? Means Happy laughter in Japanese hahaha... sounds cute.
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kishou ... how u pronounce it ?? Soft or hard tone? I think i'll stick to Happy coz jz now when i called him that, he looked at me
Added on April 20, 2007, 10:37 amLast nite after i bathed him (very smelly) ... i saw one kausat at his moutache thr This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 20 2007, 11:18 AM |
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Apr 20 2007, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 19 2007, 11:03 PM) Ta-Dah~~ hi syrian congratz that u buy a m . schnauzer ediJz now he was walking around with his mommy at the breeder's place. Then why now he is so quiet one?? He dun dare to move one wor. Just stand at one corner ; otherwise, he just lay on the floor. I think he misses his mommy ler and his face looks sad hmm , i though u tell me u will buy it around may or june right? so fast buy edi wan ? izzit too cute until u want to faster buy it and bring it home with u ='P well how much u buy this schnanuzer edi from breeder . |
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U noe why i suddenly buy now?? The owner offered me RM 550 only wor for MS wor - tempted with the price
Btwn, wanna ask u... do u pluck ur lui lui's ear hair?? His ear inside .. the hair very lebat ler - i dunno wanna pluck or not. The owner told me if pluck liao, the ears will stand up like rabbit and becomes ugly. BUT if dun pluck, i think will smell lor .. |
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Apr 20 2007, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 20 2007, 12:59 PM) U noe why i suddenly buy now?? The owner offered me RM 550 only wor for MS wor - tempted with the price icic , without mka and rm 550 is very very reasonable price edi heheBtwn, wanna ask u... do u pluck ur lui lui's ear hair?? His ear inside .. the hair very lebat ler - i dunno wanna pluck or not. The owner told me if pluck liao, the ears will stand up like rabbit and becomes ugly. BUT if dun pluck, i think will smell lor .. anyway reli congrazt u buy a ms finally , i know u love Ms very very much . as long as u love ur Ms , then is ok edi , btw what ur cute lovely Ms name ? hmm when tat time i buy my furkid is oredi 3 month old . because the breeder say after take her 3 jabs and deworm only give me . and i do agree also . well after the breeder come my house and teach me how 2 take care a schnanuzer . and the breeder do teach me how 2 pluck it ear . maybe after taken jab only can pluck it ear ? i not very sure about this because when i get my Ms is oredi 3 mont old and finish it jab .well i mention some Ms ear like rabbit ear . hmmm i oso dun understand why the ear will bcome like tat . errr..i do feel the ear stand like rabbit a bit weird . is not a actualy schnanuzer look edi lor . so ur ms ear got lots of heair inside ar...should b very smelly then . then use ear cleaner clean it 1st then to beware of ear mite. |
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Apr 20 2007, 03:59 PM
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ya .. i'm sked got ear mites. I dun haf the accessories yet. All shops closed last nite. I only get 2 bowls and a leash temporarily. The owner got give me some food. Monday I'll ask advice from the groomers - whether should I pluck the ear hair now or not. I noe how to pluck coz last time I plucked Lucky's one too. Only i dunno if i should pluck at his age. Btwn, he hardly pee wor. Today one whole day, he peed once in teh morning unitl now and he drank a lot of water wor. But today he's not as timid as last nite ady - he got follow me around but only after I tempted him with some food on my palm
Added on April 20, 2007, 6:18 pmyippie!!!!! Hepy is such an intelligent dog!!! This morning he still peed on the floor but poo on newspaper. Jz now i went to kitchen a while and i came back .. i saw yellow colour urine on newspaper!! Loving him MORE and MORe !!! Kakkakaa This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 20 2007, 06:18 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 20 2007, 03:59 PM) ya .. i'm sked got ear mites. I dun haf the accessories yet. All shops closed last nite. I only get 2 bowls and a leash temporarily. The owner got give me some food. Monday I'll ask advice from the groomers - whether should I pluck the ear hair now or not. I noe how to pluck coz last time I plucked Lucky's one too. Only i dunno if i should pluck at his age. Btwn, he hardly pee wor. Today one whole day, he peed once in teh morning unitl now and he drank a lot of water wor. But today he's not as timid as last nite ady - he got follow me around but only after I tempted him with some food on my palm cute name . my furkid got a friend called happy too . hahaha quite number of their dog called happy of cuz the reason is same as urs. but then name is depend on owner wan , if u love it then no problem edi , and u modify happy bcome Hepy '' is more nice lor hehehe , nice nice ! well last time my furkid oso will like a stranger to her 1st day when my furkid enter my house. now so like to follow me and together with me edi . im sure ur hepy will be like tat too . that's good to hear tat Hepy noe where to pee ='D so clever ~Added on April 20, 2007, 6:18 pmyippie!!!!! Hepy is such an intelligent dog!!! This morning he still peed on the floor but poo on newspaper. Jz now i went to kitchen a while and i came back .. i saw yellow colour urine on newspaper!! Loving him MORE and MORe !!! Kakkakaa |
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I was mistaken
But then this evening he went to the tray himself and peed ler. Why now lain macam liao after came back from my fren's house? |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 20 2007, 11:51 PM) I was mistaken haahahhaha , Hepy pee on a teh newspaper then u happy . hehehe so cute la hahahaha !!!! well , Hepy sure will forget where to pee because pee and poo problem , i oso let my furkid repeat his housebreaking for 1 week then my furkid only pass pee and poo at toilet .so have to patient one geh . now my furkid noe toilet is her place to pee and poo is bcuz after my furkid pee ad poo i will give her blackwood treat mah But then this evening he went to the tray himself and peed ler. Why now lain macam liao after came back from my fren's house? |
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until now, u still got give treat for pee poo ar?? But today hepy didn't cincai pee anywhere wor. He peed in the tray jor. So, i think last nite after he came back from my fren's house, he temporarily lost direction. But this morning, when I was in teh bathroom, i think he came out from my room to look for me. When i open my bathroom door, I saw him sitting at the doorstep waiting for me with his poop next to him
Added on April 21, 2007, 2:45 pmAfterall, i guess I can't praise Hepy one. Whenever I praised him here ar, then he'll make mistake one. Jz now i went to kitchen to prepare my lunch, then he sat outside of my room door, looking for me i guess. And he peed there wor P/s: My furkid don't look like MS mer?? But he's a pure-breed MS wor. I saw his mommy (in person) and saw his daddy's photo together with him. YY said he looks like a mixbreed of terrier and "lau fu zi" dog. What is "lau fu zi" dog? This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 21 2007, 02:56 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 21 2007, 12:05 PM) until now, u still got give treat for pee poo ar?? But today hepy didn't cincai pee anywhere wor. He peed in the tray jor. So, i think last nite after he came back from my fren's house, he temporarily lost direction. But this morning, when I was in teh bathroom, i think he came out from my room to look for me. When i open my bathroom door, I saw him sitting at the doorstep waiting for me with his poop next to him yeap i still got give my furkid treat after she did correct thing haha include poo . pee so far now i no more give her treat for pee , but poo , i sure will give her wan bcuz after she poo she use her eye to ask me give her treat Added on April 21, 2007, 2:45 pmAfterall, i guess I can't praise Hepy one. Whenever I praised him here ar, then he'll make mistake one. Jz now i went to kitchen to prepare my lunch, then he sat outside of my room door, looking for me i guess. And he peed there wor P/s: My furkid don't look like MS mer?? But he's a pure-breed MS wor. I saw his mommy (in person) and saw his daddy's photo together with him. YY said he looks like a mixbreed of terrier and "lau fu zi" dog. What is "lau fu zi" dog? Added on April 21, 2007, 4:58 pmsyrian , u stay near tmn megah ar? pet family there nearby got one pet shop called pet's buddy station , is quite nice wan there , i love to go there . well groomer there i dunno how it charge . next time u can go there see is near the tmn megah food court and the shop is second floor. This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 21 2007, 04:58 PM |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 21 2007, 04:55 PM) yeap i still got give my furkid treat after she did correct thing haha include poo . pee so far now i no more give her treat for pee , but poo , i sure will give her wan bcuz after she poo she use her eye to ask me give her treat he few times already like that. When I leave him a while, then he wait for me outside the doorstep with either poo / urine nex to him Added on April 21, 2007, 4:58 pmsyrian , u stay near tmn megah ar? pet family there nearby got one pet shop called pet's buddy station , is quite nice wan there , i love to go there . well groomer there i dunno how it charge . next time u can go there see is near the tmn megah food court and the shop is second floor. Nope. I don't stay at PJ. I stay at Cyberjaya. But I do go to Taman Megah , Ikano and 1U. I think I noe which pet's buddy u're talking about. I went there once too - it's very very small right? THen when u walk in, on your right is grooming area, right?? Last time I asked them basic grooming, they say they dun do basic grooming one (if i didn't remember wrongly). They only do full grooming and the price is much higher than Pets Family wor. FOrgotten how much already but expensive and they look pro to me .. hehe . Added on April 21, 2007, 6:30 pmBy the way, MS's head there can tie knot one ar ?? I mean when the hair is long. Will it be long enough to tie up a knot ?? This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 21 2007, 06:30 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 21 2007, 06:29 PM) he few times already like that. When I leave him a while, then he wait for me outside the doorstep with either poo / urine nex to him hi syrian ,Nope. I don't stay at PJ. I stay at Cyberjaya. But I do go to Taman Megah , Ikano and 1U. I think I noe which pet's buddy u're talking about. I went there once too - it's very very small right? THen when u walk in, on your right is grooming area, right?? Last time I asked them basic grooming, they say they dun do basic grooming one (if i didn't remember wrongly). They only do full grooming and the price is much higher than Pets Family wor. FOrgotten how much already but expensive and they look pro to me .. hehe . Added on April 21, 2007, 6:30 pmBy the way, MS's head there can tie knot one ar ?? I mean when the hair is long. Will it be long enough to tie up a knot ?? it mean after u leave Hepy awhile then will pee or poo right ? last time my furkid will be like tat oso. hahahha but after tat i say no , and after i leave my furkid i will place my furkid at toilet last time but now if i reli leave her , she will not simply pee and poo edi , cuz maybe no treat gua so she sure will go toilet happily to do her bussiness haha. it mean Hepy start trust u and no more stranger to him edi lor , that's a good news hehe . yea the pet's buddy station i went twice , hmm grooming thing i no ask them before , bcuz my gf groom by herself bcuz she bought trimming set when 1st bought Lui Lui . and just do research and see how 2 groom step by step . Pet family do basic grooming for schnanuzer how much ? if u noe tell me ya ='P if is reasonable price next time can let my lui lui let them groom wan haha. yea is quite small but then is bigger space than my gf's friend groomer at atria there . well u stay at cyberjaya come along pj will far mah ? hahaha i oso want my Ms can tie a ribbon but then cannot wan >< is bcuz when it grow hairly at her bottom of head , it will bcome curly curly edi wan. actually my gf always wanted to buy a ribbon to Lui Lui but then cannot tie , so cannot buy haha ='D but so far i reli nvr see ppl let ir schnanuzer grow long hair at Ms's head |
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Apr 21 2007, 09:46 PM
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MS got rough wiry fur. It will not grow long and straight. It will curl so that is why we never see people tie MS hair up...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 21 2007, 09:46 PM) MS got rough wiry fur. It will not grow long and straight. It will curl so that is why we never see people tie MS hair up... yeap yeap hahahaha . but then i saw one Ms groom until like black people hair style got texture pattern wan , cool but of cuz i wont try on my furkid , later ppl tot my Ms is a male . @@ |
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But even though the hair curls up, still long enuff to tie up right ?? Jz that it'll look curly ??
Ya, i think he start to trust me liao. Coz he will follow me everywhere when I walk around unless if he's super lazy. But then after a min or two, if he sees I went out and I haven't return, he will walk out a few steps from my room and search for me. Still, he dun dare to go to living room alone. He jz walk fwe steps away from my room and there he is, sitting there waiting for me. When he sees me, he'll wag wag his little tail - very cute!! I like his tail a lot And then jz now he pooped at the doormat in front of the bathroom, which is next to my room. Then i saw it and I fast fast carried him to the tray and put him there. But he habis pooped ady. I scold him and I say he is a bad boy - cincai ng ng elsewhere. I looked at him with angry face, he dun dare to look at me. Then I no choi him and i watch drama. After few mintues, he walked away from the tray himself and lay on the floor. 30 min later, he started to come near my leg and lick my leg This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 21 2007, 09:55 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 21 2007, 09:52 PM) But even though the hair curls up, still long enuff to tie up right ?? Jz that it'll look curly ?? hahahaha.hmmm , but when Ms 's head there grow long hair a bit weird wan hahaha @@ Hmm , maybe can tie , but i think wont be nice wan . hahha i do like Ms tail too ='D Syrian next time go for pet gathering Ya, i think he start to trust me liao. Coz he will follow me everywhere when I walk around unless if he's super lazy. But then after a min or two, if he sees I went out and I haven't return, he will walk out a few steps from my room and search for me. Still, he dun dare to go to living room alone. He jz walk fwe steps away from my room and there he is, sitting there waiting for me. When he sees me, he'll wag wag his little tail - very cute!! I like his tail a lot And then jz now he pooped at the doormat in front of the bathroom, which is next to my room. Then i saw it and I fast fast carried him to the tray and put him there. But he habis pooped ady. I scold him and I say he is a bad boy - cincai ng ng elsewhere. I looked at him with angry face, he dun dare to look at me. Then I no choi him and i watch drama. After few mintues, he walked away from the tray himself and lay on the floor. 30 min later, he started to come near my leg and lick my leg |
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Apr 22 2007, 10:39 AM
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hepy got bark since the day I bought him until now - but only early in the morning wor .. around 4 to 5 am like that - then he'll bark one or two times one. Dunno why
Added on April 22, 2007, 10:40 amGathering I will go but only after Hepy has finished all his jabs lor. Monday will be his first jab Added on April 22, 2007, 11:50 amI got a question to raise here. Why is it that my MS ar, whenever he sees me walk out from the room, he will follow me too but until certain distance only, then he will stopped. He dun dare to step to the living room. Even though he jz peed in my room (his tray), but when he walk out, he will pee on the floor one?? Surely pee one wor. Then die lor. Jz now I go to bath ma (15 minutes) only. He started barking like crazy in my room This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 22 2007, 11:50 AM |
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Apr 22 2007, 04:31 PM
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Your Hepy is insecure.... he don't feel safe and comfortable yet. So that is why he is scared and pee in the living room. I got foster 1 puppy before, it is extremely timid.... once I bring her out of the cage, she will pee, then when bring her to the car porch, pee again.... then when bring her to the gate for a walk, she will pee again.... this is a sign of timid and insecure....
If he barks, you have to let him know that no matter how much he bark, you won't come to him. Do ignore him.... bark how long also nevermind, you must ignore if not, later you will have difficulty leaving him alone when you go out.... separation anxiety. Do read up on dog training.... |
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Apr 22 2007, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 22 2007, 10:39 AM) hepy got bark since the day I bought him until now - but only early in the morning wor .. around 4 to 5 am like that - then he'll bark one or two times one. Dunno why hi Syrian Added on April 22, 2007, 10:40 amGathering I will go but only after Hepy has finished all his jabs lor. Monday will be his first jab Added on April 22, 2007, 11:50 amI got a question to raise here. Why is it that my MS ar, whenever he sees me walk out from the room, he will follow me too but until certain distance only, then he will stopped. He dun dare to step to the living room. Even though he jz peed in my room (his tray), but when he walk out, he will pee on the floor one?? Surely pee one wor. Then die lor. Jz now I go to bath ma (15 minutes) only. He started barking like crazy in my room well your Hepy will bark around 4a-5am ? izzit it pee or poo so that hepy wanted you to clean it up? Hmmm , ur hepy chew those newspaper into pieces is because still puppy and see what will chew what gua , so have to say '' No '' when u mention u put ur furkid at cage and it started to chew newspaper , but of cuz not after Hepy chew those newspaper , later Hepy dunnoe what did he do , and make u so angry lor. last time my furkid do like to chew those newspaper into small pieces , well still puppy , they sure will do mistake one , hehehe ! u put towel at cage ? well i think if put towel at cage those puppy sure will pee or poo at those towel and carpert wan , and it will let u bcome more busy and uncovenient to u to clean it up.sumtimes puppy it sure will do mistake wan , then suddenly it will recall where supprosed it did it bussiness , so have to redo and redo and redo . Reward them if it reli reli correct spot it did. but of cuz not to yell or scold it if it reli poo or pee in front of u and at the wrong section and place , just put him at the tray if he pee or poo at floor. ( u did correct edi ) well , to me ur Hepy very very clever edi lor , at least it understand the tray is for pee and poo . hmm it seem that hepy started to scare to be left alone . well cuz it Biasa with u now , well if it reli whining and bark just dun igrone . i did this to my furkid last time too . last time my breeder teach me 1st day of get my lui lui have to start train it edi , because later too glue to owner then will be a problem edi later bcome habit edi lor . so the first day i get my furkid after 9 pm i will left my furkid at cage , and if it whining i just dun igrone and of cuz 1st time it while i will clap my hand hearly , becuz my furkid been train to scare when i clap my hand hardly . to allow my furkid noe that i dislike it to been whining , then my furkid will be stop . so now it will be easier if i go out and my furkid will waitting for me to come back and will not make any noise when i go out.so starting now Syrian , u have to training ur Hepy for avoid this separation anxiety behaviour become a behaviour issues and a habit edi . well i got some Tips , when i go out i will open some soft music song for my furkid to hear . and if u worry that ur furkid reli alone and scare , u can allow ur furkid to hold ur cloth that u dun reli wan , which is u wear before wan , then it feel u are u with it now , and wont feel alone . This is a idea to avoid it to feel alone when u are not around . But Remember to train ur hepy to become more tough and independent first , u have complete urself 1st is never go back and see it if it whining or bark and asking u to see it , whining and barking just wanted to get ur attention . hehehe Syrian i know u can wan |
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Apr 22 2007, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 22 2007, 04:31 PM) Your Hepy is insecure.... he don't feel safe and comfortable yet. So that is why he is scared and pee in the living room. I got foster 1 puppy before, it is extremely timid.... once I bring her out of the cage, she will pee, then when bring her to the car porch, pee again.... then when bring her to the gate for a walk, she will pee again.... this is a sign of timid and insecure.... I sked his barking "terkacau" my housemates If he barks, you have to let him know that no matter how much he bark, you won't come to him. Do ignore him.... bark how long also nevermind, you must ignore if not, later you will have difficulty leaving him alone when you go out.... separation anxiety. Do read up on dog training.... QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 22 2007, 05:06 PM) hi Syrian Ya, everytime he barks at 4 or 5 am, he sure peed or pooped on the tray jor. I didn't put him in cage or playpen. At nite he doesn't disturb ppl one, so, i just let him roam free in my room at nite time. He doesn't really pee poo on teh floor when he's in my room except that he's outside. Once in a while, he will pee on the floor but i think that's bcoz he couldn't control his bladder lor. I didn't buy any cage or playpen for him well your Hepy will bark around 4a-5am ? izzit it pee or poo so that hepy wanted you to clean it up? Hmmm , ur hepy chew those newspaper into pieces is because still puppy and see what will chew what gua , so have to say '' No '' when u mention u put ur furkid at cage and it started to chew newspaper , but of cuz not after Hepy chew those newspaper , later Hepy dunnoe what did he do , and make u so angry lor. last time my furkid do like to chew those newspaper into small pieces , well still puppy , they sure will do mistake one , hehehe ! u put towel at cage ? well i think if put towel at cage those puppy sure will pee or poo at those towel and carpert wan , and it will let u bcome more busy and uncovenient to u to clean it up.sumtimes puppy it sure will do mistake wan , then suddenly it will recall where supprosed it did it bussiness , so have to redo and redo and redo . Reward them if it reli reli correct spot it did. but of cuz not to yell or scold it if it reli poo or pee in front of u and at the wrong section and place , just put him at the tray if he pee or poo at floor. ( u did correct edi ) well , to me ur Hepy very very clever edi lor , at least it understand the tray is for pee and poo . hmm it seem that hepy started to scare to be left alone . well cuz it Biasa with u now , well if it reli whining and bark just dun igrone . i did this to my furkid last time too . last time my breeder teach me 1st day of get my lui lui have to start train it edi , because later too glue to owner then will be a problem edi later bcome habit edi lor . so the first day i get my furkid after 9 pm i will left my furkid at cage , and if it whining i just dun igrone and of cuz 1st time it while i will clap my hand hearly , becuz my furkid been train to scare when i clap my hand hardly . to allow my furkid noe that i dislike it to been whining , then my furkid will be stop . so now it will be easier if i go out and my furkid will waitting for me to come back and will not make any noise when i go out.so starting now Syrian , u have to training ur Hepy for avoid this separation anxiety behaviour become a behaviour issues and a habit edi . well i got some Tips , when i go out i will open some soft music song for my furkid to hear . and if u worry that ur furkid reli alone and scare , u can allow ur furkid to hold ur cloth that u dun reli wan , which is u wear before wan , then it feel u are u with it now , and wont feel alone . This is a idea to avoid it to feel alone when u are not around . But Remember to train ur hepy to become more tough and independent first , u have complete urself 1st is never go back and see it if it whining or bark and asking u to see it , whining and barking just wanted to get ur attention . hehehe Syrian i know u can wan Today, I brought him to Pets Family for grroming and vaccniation. Basic grooming cost me RM 20 only wor ( i also dunno why so cheap coz last time i bring my shih tzu there, he cost me RM 30 for basic grooming wor). Then vaccination is RM 35. And I bought some of his accessories there too. Spent around RM 200 on him today The Pets Buddy u told me , I went today and I bought blackwood there - RM 40 only wor - cheaper than Ikano Added on April 22, 2007, 8:29 pmby the way, wud is heartworm ar ? This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 22 2007, 08:29 PM |
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Apr 22 2007, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 22 2007, 08:08 PM) I sked his barking "terkacau" my housemates yaya the pet buddy blackwood will be cheaper , and will get diskaun although they dun have membership card to customer , but then the staff told me will give diskaun wan ='D so better than my membership card place lor , i mean summer pet shop , they very arrogane wan unlike this pet buddy pet shop . it mean basic and full package grooming for a schnanuzer at pet buddy quite reasonable too and pet family will be more cheaper wo @@ rm 20 for basic grooming , hehehe next time will bring my furkid there then haha. and the vaccination at pet family just cost u rm 35? so reaonable price ler .good good.Pet family service not bad wan , hahaha sumtimes i will go pet family and pet buddy see see look look wan.hahah 1st time go shopping and sure will buy lots of thing for ur furkid wan hahahaha , my gf last time oso buy a lot @@ a lot until now not tat horrible edi . Hahaha , but 1st time sure lots of thing should be prepare to buy wan , that's why cost a lot lor.Ya, everytime he barks at 4 or 5 am, he sure peed or pooped on the tray jor. I didn't put him in cage or playpen. At nite he doesn't disturb ppl one, so, i just let him roam free in my room at nite time. He doesn't really pee poo on teh floor when he's in my room except that he's outside. Once in a while, he will pee on the floor but i think that's bcoz he couldn't control his bladder lor. I didn't buy any cage or playpen for him Today, I brought him to Pets Family for grroming and vaccniation. Basic grooming cost me RM 20 only wor ( i also dunno why so cheap coz last time i bring my shih tzu there, he cost me RM 30 for basic grooming wor). Then vaccination is RM 35. And I bought some of his accessories there too. Spent around RM 200 on him today The Pets Buddy u told me , I went today and I bought blackwood there - RM 40 only wor - cheaper than Ikano Added on April 22, 2007, 8:29 pmby the way, wud is heartworm ar ? errr....the vet say ur furkid '' dumb or is he deaf tim '' ar. so guai and sit on the table and let vet to vaccination Hepy ar. hahaha , this is called guai guai geh but one of the reason is maybe the vet become a stranger to Hepy , then sit there until wont move gua , hahahha it means ur Hepy a bit timid , but nvm sooner ur Hepy will more brave wan , have to finish it 3 jabs first only bring it out right ='D oh u didnt buy cage or playpen wan ar. no wonder, well ur Hepy so guai and so fast noe where to pee and poo wor .congrazt congrazt , it mean 4am-5am ur Hepy ask u to wake up and help it clean up those mess right , mostly puppy will be like tat becuz those puppy oso want clean and hygience place.overall i see ur training method is quite good mah , cuz u got expreice with shih tzu before , so no need to worry so much lor . but then if ur Hepy bully ur bf and bite ur Bf oso ask ur bf must control it not to bite oso , if not next time it oso will bcome habit right ? hahaha just say '' No '' as usual haha.You sure noe this right becuz u can control Hepy not to bite . yes that's good that if u hear the sounds when Hepy bite the newspaper , then u say '' no ' , is good bcuz it will noe that it do wrong thing edi , and if is after bite all newspaper into pieces then u awake only see it bcome into pieces then cannot scold edi , then it turn out , Hepy dunno what it did and let owner angry . heartworm is is a parasitic roundworm which is from host to host through the bites of mosquitoes.and some people do buy Heartgard monthly & Deworm three month once.if let furkid stay outdoor the Chances of getting hearworm will be quite high. cuz it mainly come from mosquito, and mosquito is everywhere. Plus, i feel hygiene have to concentrate too. but then if the pups is older than 6 months then need to perform a blood test first before taking Heartgard tablet.For pups 5 monyh below then they can take the tablet without any blood test.. but better get advise from vet |
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They put the price RM 45 for blackwood but the guy charge me RM 40 only - cheap!! Then he also tell me which one is old stock and which one is new stock
Hepy is not little timid ar .. he is SUPER TIMID The previous owner told me he didn't train Hepy on pee poo one wor. He just put Hepy in cage when he goes to work. But I also dunno why Hepy learns to pee poo so fast So, when I wake up and see the newspaper in pieces already, kenot scold him lar. Must catch him red-handed then only scold him, izzit? My place a lot of mosquitoes one wor although I keep him indoor. I also every nite let mosquito bite until kenot tahan Oh yea, the previous owner called my bf this morning to ask how's the puppy doing Added on April 22, 2007, 11:42 pmoh yea .. i bought ear cleaner today (liquid). How many drops should I put into his ears and how often should I use the liquid to clean the ears ? Added on April 23, 2007, 12:47 amONE GOOD NEWS!!! My MS's finally a REAL MS Added on April 23, 2007, 9:07 amThis morning at 6 am, Hepy barked very very loudly and shrilly - OMG This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 23 2007, 09:07 AM |
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Apr 23 2007, 03:45 PM
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syrian, ur ms can reli poo on the tray and not other place?
so obedient ar ?? |
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Apr 23 2007, 04:27 PM
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Hi Syrian , my answer is green in colour ya hehe
They put the price RM 45 for blackwood but the guy charge me RM 40 only - cheap!! Then he also tell me which one is old stock and which one is new stock oh that's mean next time u can go pet's buddy station buy blackwood next time . that's good . yea , probabbly ur Ms just 2 month old and small in size so Pet's family just charge u rm 20 . Hepy is not little timid ar .. he is SUPER TIMID if timid problem not to worry , timid is easy to train than a agrresive dog la . it's just my 2 cents anyway. well recoomend after hepy finish 3 jabs only go out more to socialize, expose ur doggie to natural loud noise which is came from cars ... im sure hepy will get used to it soon if follow u go out after taken it 3rd jab.hahahah that's good that hepy is not a hyperactive Ms . Im sure u prefer quiet type instead.if Hepy is a hyperactive oso , oso can train until bcome more obedience too , it depend on owner wan . owner spend time with dogs , the result u can see is different from those owner which is didnt spend time to train it dog.well as i know u got exprience so those basic u sure noe edi , i bet. and of cuz if Hepy do right thing , always praise it with Hug and kiss kisses. hepy sure love it.same goes to my furkid. Haha The previous owner told me he didn't train Hepy on pee poo one wor. He just put Hepy in cage when he goes to work. But I also dunno why Hepy learns to pee poo so fast hahahha , maybe to hepy u are more a owner to him , that why Hepy not that scare of ur bf gua . and you become a like mother to Hepy , that's why Hepy will listen owner aka mum words lor haha.is good thing that Hepy listen to you So, when I wake up and see the newspaper in pieces already, kenot scold him lar. Must catch him red-handed then only scold him, izzit? yes that's correct , if those newspaper u mention is bcome into pieces edi , then u cannot scold it edi , u just show it a dull expression to it but no need scold . if scold Hepy sure dunnoe why u scold . if u reli mention it start to bite , then say '' No '' sooner ur hepy will stop this bad habit too .or buy some chewing toys to Hepy to let it noe only can chew it own toys but not to newspaper. My place a lot of mosquitoes one wor although I keep him indoor. I also every nite let mosquito bite until kenot tahan then is better get a heargard to prevent ur furkid get this heartworm . is bcuz my friend's auntie rottweiler stay at outdoor oso get heartworm and R.I.P due to it living space got too much mosquito.well have to ask vet opinion when to get a hearguard to ur furkid Oh yea, the previous owner called my bf this morning to ask how's the puppy doing is better to allow the previous owner noe haha , so can ask them why hepy is timid ? maybe got history ? Added on April 22, 2007, 11:42 pmoh yea .. i bought ear cleaner today (liquid). How many drops should I put into his ears and how often should I use the liquid to clean the ears ? well how many drops ah ? well i think i put 3- 4 drops on the cotton and clean my furkid ear. You just need to clean it more often lor.and need to clean their ear once a week. Added on April 23, 2007, 4:29 pmhahha yea ur Hepy is a Ms wurt.dun care ur friend say ur dogs is lau fu zhi dogs ler. hahaha maybe they dunno what breed gua.hahaha , that's good to buy some toys for ur furkid.my furkid do love toys too hmm,it's normal for a pup to bark the first few nights because he is frightened, in a strange place.and wanted u clean it mess after it pee and poo . so i do recommend u : (1)make sure ur furkid get some excercise like play with it , then if ur furkid feel more tired then it wont so fast wake up and bark lor and of cuz allow ur Hepy get used to in a dark room which is u normally sleep and u will switch off light right , then maybe ur furkid will scare when u not with it when in a dark room. (2)allow ur Hepy pee/poo before bedtime ... Just have to make sure he is not barking because he need to go and do it bussiness. (3) u allow ur hepy sleep same room with u so just make a small bed like small pillow and mattress and make it sleep next to u , allow ur furkid feel safe... (4)if can , when ur furkid started to bark . clap ur hand loudly , make ur furkid noe when u clap ur hand loudly it mean u very angry when it bark . i hope those u can solve the problem, i know Hepy is easy to train This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 23 2007, 04:29 PM |
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At nite, I put him on my bed sleeping next to me. But he doesn't like my bed
Today i went to campus for the afternoon .. th en when i got back, he ripped all the newspapers into pieces This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 23 2007, 10:37 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 23 2007, 10:36 PM) At nite, I put him on my bed sleeping next to me. But he doesn't like my bed hmmm sounds very messy after u went bck from campus and see like world war 1 happen in ur room . well ur hepy still young , need time to train it . well ur Hepy tot the newspaper is bcome it toys edi . Today i went to campus for the afternoon .. th en when i got back, he ripped all the newspapers into pieces Added on April 24, 2007, 12:06 am QUOTE(darlyn @ Apr 23 2007, 03:45 PM) yeah , syrian's furkid so smart and know where to do it bussiness edi . very very smart This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 24 2007, 12:09 AM |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 24 2007, 12:05 AM) hmmm sounds very messy after u went bck from campus and see like world war 1 happen in ur room . well ur hepy still young , need time to train it . well ur Hepy tot the newspaper is bcome it toys edi . I noe why he messed up the newspapers already - he tulan (i think). Coz when I went to campus, I leashed him and he doesn't like to be leashed for more than appro 2 hours like that. JUst now i went to campus, i din leash him - instead, I let him roam free in my room. He din messed up the newspapers ady but hor, he POOPED behind my door Added on April 24, 2007, 12:06 am yeah , syrian's furkid so smart and know where to do it bussiness edi . very very smart But he likes cleanliness one. After he pooped, he will bark loud loud - want ppl to clean up the mess for him. Last nite he din pooped, so, he din bark. But middle of last nite, i went to toilet and came back, he stood at the door. I didn't see him and i stepped on his little tiny foot - he barked QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 24 2007, 12:09 AM) How much is the bag ?? Lui Lui is cute!! She looks more standard than my Hepy. |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 10:22 AM) I noe why he messed up the newspapers already - he tulan (i think). Coz when I went to campus, I leashed him and he doesn't like to be leashed for more than appro 2 hours like that. JUst now i went to campus, i din leash him - instead, I let him roam free in my room. He din messed up the newspapers ady but hor, he POOPED behind my door hahah ya, maybe Hepy unhappy when u leave him alone with leash,then wanna make u angry back @@ , hahaha. well remember always bear in mind , we are owner and they are not boss. if one day those puppy noe that if they did any thing wrong , but owner didnt show and scold them , they will bcome boss and do anything they wanted to do example : pee and poo , bite thing . well i understand why Hepy will poo back of the door , is bcause after u went out of the room , ur Hepy angry u leave him mar, last time my lui lui oso like that , when i leave her alone at room , she will just poo and get attention from me. then i show my dull expression to my furkid and pick up those poo. well although now my lui lui is no more doing this but mostly i will make sure my furkid poo or pee first if can i will only go 2 work .so my lui lui wont poo and pee at cage , and lui lui will wait me back from work or my gf back from it college then open toilet door for LuiLui. haha.hahahha just a accident and u step hepy's foot , nvm one, hahaha. i bought this is bag from pet's buddy station . because they diskaun for me , they charge me rm100 for this bag . i bought this bag is bcuz my lui lui birthday at april 13th , so i present this bag for her , and i can bring her go out. hahaha.cuz last time i wanted buy from pet safari wan , but too xpensive ... and some bag cost rm 300 + ..wah shock me....i cant afford the price haha !!!well do update Hepy's pic when u free ya , wanna see how's Hepy grow too. slowly slowly ur Hepy will bcome more pretty wan But he likes cleanliness one. After he pooped, he will bark loud loud - want ppl to clean up the mess for him. Last nite he din pooped, so, he din bark. But middle of last nite, i went to toilet and came back, he stood at the door. I didn't see him and i stepped on his little tiny foot - he barked How much is the bag ?? Lui Lui is cute!! She looks more standard than my Hepy. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Got ar .. when I come home and I see his poop behind the door, I showed him a very dissatisfied expression and at the same time, I nagged all the way for him to hear coz in the room, it's only me and him ma. Digitral, how to make sure he pee poo first before i leave him alone or before he goes to bed?? How to force him to pee poo first? I dunno how to train on these.
Jz now I took my evening nap - so tired. He also followed me. I put him on my bed but as usual, he walked down to the floor and laid nxt to my tilam. He din kacau me at all ar .. I sleep; he also sleep Wah .. he jz pooped outside of the door again!!!! BUT I'M IN MY ROOM ler!!! |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 03:40 PM) Got ar .. when I come home and I see his poop behind the door, I showed him a very dissatisfied expression and at the same time, I nagged all the way for him to hear coz in the room, it's only me and him ma. Digitral, how to make sure he pee poo first before i leave him alone or before he goes to bed?? How to force him to pee poo first? I dunno how to train on these. i think is better get a playpen to teach ur furkid.hmm ur room enough space to put playpen mar, btw my room cannot put playpen although i wanted to get one . if get a playpen should more easier for ur furkid to train .cuz now u didnt cage ur furkid and i think if train inside the playpen you just need to place the newspaper, but of cuz u have to leave a spot for ur pup to sleep on which is with some old cloth or new cloth ( which u like ) as their sleeping spot. most of the furkid do like clean and it all dislike to peepoo at their sleeping area.i think if when ur furkid been pee on the newspapar place another piece on top of the pee.(this would be a great idea)but if u reli mention those newspaper all getting dirty & messy then u have to change all again with the same step i been told. Hepy like to bite newspaper, u can go out when u free and buy her something chew toy for her inside the playpen. You actually have to allow ur furkid ro stay inside the playpen most of the time untill she have done her pee and poo problem and learn newspaper is the peepoo place to him. but of cuz, you can let her out to play but always remember and remember if you saw her got the intention wanted to peepoo faster and do bring ur furkid to the newspaper and waiting her to do it bussiness until it finish it only show ur expression which is very happy and hug and kisses do show u are happy to furkid. Jz now I took my evening nap - so tired. He also followed me. I put him on my bed but as usual, he walked down to the floor and laid nxt to my tilam. He din kacau me at all ar .. I sleep; he also sleep Wah .. he jz pooped outside of the door again!!!! BUT I'M IN MY ROOM ler!!! i knw hepy know the tray is to do bussiness but then it still got abit confruse.well,is better to buy a playpen first or maybe the back of the door got it marking and smell of the pee /poo so it will still cannot control it bladder and will poo at the marking there.so it is better allow ur hepy to know the newspaper is the peepoo place slowly introduce it to a tray cover with newspaper. 1st thing you have to do is need to put some newspaper that got ur furkid pee smell.then the tray you can place inside ur house that you want ur pup where to peepoo. Show ur pup where is this tray of newspaper are. but although if ur furkid show been sucess the training.but sumtimes of cuz ur furkid will do mistake tooO which mean miss pee/poopoo at the newspaper.but then to me is very normal la.every furkid to me oso the same.just have to'' Be patient more & confident to urself and ur furkid''. after your furkid know where to peepoo then you dun need to cage ur puppy anymore. When you go out to campus and u no need to worry went back ur room and see got world war 1 happen in ur room. When you come back from campus then you can just clean up the newspaper and place a new one on the tray that it. well that's a good thing that ur Hepy show that he do love toys.Hepy should be glad that it have a good owner aka mum right?haha,my furkid do love toys too. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Apr 24 2007, 04:44 PM
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kenot get a playpen ar. My room is enuff for thje space but kenot get. Last time I train Lucky in playpen - then he noes whr to pee poo in playpen but when i let him out to roam in my room (at first stage wanna restrict his freedom), he cincai pee poo whenever i let him out - so
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 04:44 PM) kenot get a playpen ar. My room is enuff for thje space but kenot get. Last time I train Lucky in playpen - then he noes whr to pee poo in playpen but when i let him out to roam in my room (at first stage wanna restrict his freedom), he cincai pee poo whenever i let him out - so that's agood idea too which is just now Hepy poo on the back door then u wipe a biton the tray.well , although it didnt exactly poo on the tray but if it smell , u have to praise oso. maybe it reli work .show that if he understand that's the place to poo , then he know that's the way to make it owner happy.but u did a great job edi.hmmm...ur furkid not reli like to drink water wan ar? my furkid after play oso will drink lots of water too , and around 4 hours once , i will open toilet door to my furkid to pee.well slowly slowly ur furkid will drink water wan dun worry , i did mention my furkid last time not reli like to drink water too. |
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he's also not addicted to food unlike my shih tzu last time. Last time when my shih tzu see got food, he will bark and go berserk one. Hepy hor, when he sees me opening the container, he wag wag his tail and wawlk round and round. But after I pour the food on his bowl, he will jz sniff sniff and walk away. UNLESS if he's super hungry, then he will eat some. As with water, i hardly see him drinking except after playing and eating. So, he din really pee one. This morning pee until now and drink water this morning until now too. It's normal one right??
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Did you groom lui lui urself?? Or u send to where for full grooming?? How much is it? I'll wait fwe more months, then mgiht send him for those standard MS look grooming
Added on April 24, 2007, 5:00 pmur lui lui's eyebrow is so long. The eyebrow hair long until forming a circle around the eyes ... very special look This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 24 2007, 05:00 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 04:57 PM) Did you groom lui lui urself?? Or u send to where for full grooming?? How much is it? I'll wait fwe more months, then mgiht send him for those standard MS look grooming hahahha , yea . i let my gf groom wan , so nvr bring own furkid for grooming before. hmm , actually my gf wanted to bring for grooming wan , but i abit not very trust people maybe , so trust gf la.hahaha. so i ask my gf not to groom the eye brown and let it grow longer. cuz i dun wan those eye brown so straight wan hahahaha.i bought those groomer set when i first bought my furkid edi.syrian update ur Hepy pic ='D hmm although the pet pamper salon is mygf's friend open wan , but then i oso let my gf groom , not saying i not trust my gf friend , just feel my gf noe how 2 groom mah, then just let her groom lor hahahaAdded on April 24, 2007, 5:00 pmur lui lui's eyebrow is so long. The eyebrow hair long until forming a circle around the eyes ... very special look Added on April 24, 2007, 6:30 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 04:57 PM) he's also not addicted to food unlike my shih tzu last time. Last time when my shih tzu see got food, he will bark and go berserk one. Hepy hor, when he sees me opening the container, he wag wag his tail and wawlk round and round. But after I pour the food on his bowl, he will jz sniff sniff and walk away. UNLESS if he's super hungry, then he will eat some. As with water, i hardly see him drinking except after playing and eating. So, he din really pee one. This morning pee until now and drink water this morning until now too. It's normal one right?? oh reli ah. maybe ur Hepy not that hungry gua when see food oso wont went berserk gua. hmm my furkid do love food a lot , wagging it tail until so fast == last time oso will very very happy until will bark and ask me faster give her food haha. but now i will control it that before eat , have to do all trick 1st or i put down the food , ask my furkid to sit down , until i say 1..2...3 only eat. haha. hmm last time my furkid oso not reli like to drink water wan . but after 4-5 month old it started to drink more water compare to last time , so i feel is normal wan.I bought a water bottel last nite from st angels and now i dunno whr to screw the bottle This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 24 2007, 06:30 PM |
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Apr 24 2007, 10:23 PM
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Sigh! I jz came back from class. Hepy pooped on the floor again - at back of door again. Same spot!! But I've alerady used detergent to clean that place. Should not have his smell anymore ler
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 10:23 PM) Sigh! I jz came back from class. Hepy pooped on the floor again - at back of door again. Same spot!! But I've alerady used detergent to clean that place. Should not have his smell anymore ler Detergent may sometimes not be able to mask the smell. Try distilled white vinegar with baking soda |
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Apr 24 2007, 10:40 PM
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distilled white vinegar? What is that? Do u mean dilute? What is baking soda in malay?? Coz I sked later I tell them i want baking soda, they dunno what is that. Will try it out coz I noticed hepy only poo-ed at back of my door everytime when i'm not in. But when i'm in, he noes how to go back to the tray. Dunno what is he trying to tell me ..
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 10:40 PM) distilled white vinegar? What is that? Do u mean dilute? What is baking soda in malay?? Coz I sked later I tell them i want baking soda, they dunno what is that. Will try it out coz I noticed hepy only poo-ed at back of my door everytime when i'm not in. But when i'm in, he noes how to go back to the tray. Dunno what is he trying to tell me .. No, I don't mean dilute. I mean distilled. You can find it in grocery shops. Sorry but I really don't know what baking soda is in Malay. Maybe someone else here can help |
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Apr 24 2007, 10:47 PM
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Baking soda is serbuk penaik...
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Apr 25 2007, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 24 2007, 10:40 PM) distilled white vinegar? What is that? Do u mean dilute? What is baking soda in malay?? Coz I sked later I tell them i want baking soda, they dunno what is that. Will try it out coz I noticed hepy only poo-ed at back of my door everytime when i'm not in. But when i'm in, he noes how to go back to the tray. Dunno what is he trying to tell me .. well Hepy is actually showing that he is angry when u left him alone at room that why he will do marking at the back door there , and poo , because that's the place where u leave . hahaha. last time my furkid oso like that wan , then slowly slowly no more doing that . well , try use the white vinegar which is recommend by jtl and crazymouse_yyh , do keep us update then |
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Apr 25 2007, 11:36 AM
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how do u solve that problem ?? Jz now i leashed him back again when I go to campus coz I don't want him to pee poo on the floor. I kept stepping on his poops coz it's almost the same colour as my floor
1. If i leashed him, he will play with newspapers. 2. If I didn't leash him, he will simply pee poo. Last tiem with my shih tzu, I put in playpen one ma .. He also played with newspapers when I'm not around. So, I dun think playpen will solve the problem. But I dun want to get a cage either. If he poo in the cage, later he step on it, worse (i think). |
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Apr 25 2007, 11:58 AM
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Syrian, I think u r rushing a bit loh.....U got ur MS just.....not enuf 1 week rite?? u expect ur MS to learn to do so many things ah?? cannot lah.......
If u dun wan ur MS to dirty ur floor, i suggest u get a cage. Like wat Digitral said, u should cage trained ur MS b4 its too late leh.... Normally they won poo and pee in the cage. But although they did (coz puppy cannot tahan too long), the pee and poo will still go down to the tray, wont dirty ur MS and floor also. When u wanna go out, put ur MS in the cage. Let him bark, let him whine, just ignore him. slowly he will stop lah. When u r back, open door, lure him or bring him to a spot where u wan him to do his business, then on the spot wipe his bump, give a treat. U can let him roam free when u're home coz u can monitor him mah. If he done something wrong, then only can catch him red-handed. I think MS is easier to train than a shih tzu, coz shih tzu is quite stubborn. But u need a little patience loh..... My shih tzu now knows where to pee and poo liao, although sometimes still got pee accident(pee on the mat), but bcoz i'm home that time, so can scold her on the spot, then cage her/ignore her for like one hour. Soon she'll know that peeing on other places is wrong. This post has been edited by joanalooidog: Apr 25 2007, 12:00 PM |
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Apr 25 2007, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Apr 25 2007, 11:58 AM) Syrian, I think u r rushing a bit loh.....U got ur MS just.....not enuf 1 week rite?? u expect ur MS to learn to do so many things ah?? cannot lah....... that's the point . Syrian , joanalooidog is right too. well actually to me ur Hepy is very very smart edi. Hepy just use 2 days then know the tray is to do bussiness. well is better get a cage or a play pen to train it.well i do have a cage to my Lui Lui wan , so when i bck from work or my gf back from Campus only let my furkid out from cage and open toilet door. so my lui lui been train to not pee/poo at cage . unless i went out more than 8 hours, then of cuz every furkid cannot control it bladder and pee oso , but if poo poo , my furkid will wait till me back then only poo at toilet. hmm choose either one to train ur Hepy , i bet ur Hepy will be more easier to understand it. because Hepy now the problem is if u let ur hepy free then it will poo at back door , this situation do happen when i let my furkid free at room last time . well , although now is now more is bcuz before i go out , i have to make sure my furkid is already pee/poo at toilet.but then i feel if u feel is pity if ur Hepy stay at cage , then u can make a playpen , i bet Hepy bite the newspaper bcuz it tot it is a toy to him.If u dun wan ur MS to dirty ur floor, i suggest u get a cage. Like wat Digitral said, u should cage trained ur MS b4 its too late leh.... Normally they won poo and pee in the cage. But although they did (coz puppy cannot tahan too long), the pee and poo will still go down to the tray, wont dirty ur MS and floor also. When u wanna go out, put ur MS in the cage. Let him bark, let him whine, just ignore him. slowly he will stop lah. When u r back, open door, lure him or bring him to a spot where u wan him to do his business, then on the spot wipe his bump, give a treat. U can let him roam free when u're home coz u can monitor him mah. If he done something wrong, then only can catch him red-handed. I think MS is easier to train than a shih tzu, coz shih tzu is quite stubborn. But u need a little patience loh..... My shih tzu now knows where to pee and poo liao, although sometimes still got pee accident(pee on the mat), but bcoz i'm home that time, so can scold her on the spot, then cage her/ignore her for like one hour. Soon she'll know that peeing on other places is wrong. Added on April 25, 2007, 2:14 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 25 2007, 11:36 AM) how do u solve that problem ?? Jz now i leashed him back again when I go to campus coz I don't want him to pee poo on the floor. I kept stepping on his poops coz it's almost the same colour as my floor well , i think different owner got different method wan .well , last time my lui lui did poo at the backdoor when i wanted to go downstair and let it free roam at roam , is bcuz tat time although i got let my furkid pee/poo at toilet but then i didnt give treat , so now everytime my furkid poo at toilet my furkid will use her eye and action to show that she want the treats. so i did use treats as a reward.so that's why maybe my furkid now understand if she either poo at floor or cage , it will not get treat either.1. If i leashed him, he will play with newspapers. 2. If I didn't leash him, he will simply pee poo. Last tiem with my shih tzu, I put in playpen one ma .. He also played with newspapers when I'm not around. So, I dun think playpen will solve the problem. But I dun want to get a cage either. If he poo in the cage, later he step on it, worse (i think). if u wanted to leash , make the leash more longer?i mean use 2 leash and tie it up. and make it more space to it to walk ? but not to near the back door.but the problem is ur Hepy will still use newspaper as a chewing toys and bite into pieces too.but of cuz teaching not to bite the newspaper have to see when Hepy got the intention to bite the newspaper then u just firmly say '' NO '' . He will stop when you done teaching Hepy that this is bad bad habit, otherwise he will really do this for the rest of his life.but to me Hepy is very young 2 month old , and is a fast learner edi,anyway do GIVE him with chewing toys and when Hepy play with chewing toys just praise him when he is using them. Say firmly NO when he is biting anything else.Just my 2 cents anyway.To me , dogs of cuz not reli understand what we trying to talk to them , but they do understand our body language and expression and either tone of voice.From now on , u have show you are the owner aka leader edi , when it bite the newspaper take it away in front of him .is to show that thing is not surposed to bite .hmm training maybe is a bit boring like what to say '' Repeat and repeat '' until they totally understand what u need them to be.so that's mean patience is reli important , time prove it,give ur Hepy some time and allow it know what is have to do and what is Don't . This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 25 2007, 02:14 PM |
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Apr 25 2007, 02:26 PM
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i think he play with newspaper bcoz i left him for few hours in my room and he sian lor. I got give him toys but his toys fly away far far jor. Then he simply pee poo .. coz sked alone and wanna get my attention gua. But I have to go to class one ma. Jz now i went to toilet for few min only wor, he barks like crazy and he whines for some time. I think he feels lonely in my room. He wants attention lor.
Buying playpen won't solve the newspaper thingy. He will also play with it jz like my shih tzu last time. Cage ar .. feel kinda bad wanna lock him up in cage I think i'll think of something else for him to pee poo instead of exposing the newspaper for him to paly wiht. Let u noe when I thot of one Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Apr 25 2007, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 25 2007, 02:26 PM) i think he play with newspaper bcoz i left him for few hours in my room and he sian lor. I got give him toys but his toys fly away far far jor. Then he simply pee poo .. coz sked alone and wanna get my attention gua. But I have to go to class one ma. Jz now i went to toilet for few min only wor, he barks like crazy and he whines for some time. I think he feels lonely in my room. He wants attention lor. no problem ,you can find a way to solve it , as i know ur Hepy is very very smart ='D well , just find a method which is convenient to u , no rush and everything sure got away to solve. Hmm , maybe u feel cage is a bit curle to lock it up , but after train it and it get used of it , if wont feel boring at cage . but different owner sure got different method wan .i figure out that music and toys will make ur furkid will wont boring when alone at room . cuz i do use this method too.yes, furkid like to get attention from us , bcuz it want us to care it and love it Buying playpen won't solve the newspaper thingy. He will also play with it jz like my shih tzu last time. Cage ar .. feel kinda bad wanna lock him up in cage I think i'll think of something else for him to pee poo instead of exposing the newspaper for him to paly wiht. Let u noe when I thot of one This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 25 2007, 02:46 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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hepy's mommy looks exactly like ur lui lui except her colour is lighter a bit. Then his daddy is black and white.
Added on April 26, 2007, 10:23 amwhy after vaccination .. then kenot bath for one weeK ?? Wud're da underlying reasons ? This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 26 2007, 10:23 AM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 26 2007, 08:15 AM) hepy's mommy looks exactly like ur lui lui except her colour is lighter a bit. Then his daddy is black and white. hmm i not very sure why after vaccination then cannot take bath , itat time i just listen advise from my breeder that after vaccination cannot take bath a week . and i didnt ask why.or u can ask vet next time ? Added on April 26, 2007, 10:23 amwhy after vaccination .. then kenot bath for one weeK ?? Wud're da underlying reasons ? |
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oh yeah .. jz now i went to carrefour .. jz bought Hepy a Johnsons's baby powder. Can apply right?? He smells good after i apply powder on him.
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Apr 27 2007, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 27 2007, 01:03 AM) oh yeah .. jz now i went to carrefour .. jz bought Hepy a Johnsons's baby powder. Can apply right?? He smells good after i apply powder on him. i think can gua. hmm but i use dog's body powder. it do smell good too .so Now Hepy ok with the poo and pee problem edi right ? |
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Apr 27 2007, 10:27 AM
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got dog powder one ar ?? Neva seen b4 .. hehe. Pee Poo still a problem - haven't think of a solution yet. Last nite i went out to shop for groceries, when i came back, he pooped on floor , pee in tray and played with the newspaper again lor. But he knew he did something wrong coz when i came home, he dun dare to move. He laid on the floor looking around. Usually when he sees me come home, he will jump like crazy one. I pointed to the newspaper and scolded him "why did u play with newspaper?? Didnt' u noe it's wrong?? U bad dog!!". Then he dun dare to move. Jz laid on floor until i started playing with him after 2 hours of ignoring him lor.
I woke up jz now, he peed in the tray last nite but pooped outsdie of the tray. Maybe the tray is too small. I think he played with newspapers and cincai pee poo coz wanna get my attention gua .. |
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Apr 27 2007, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 27 2007, 10:27 AM) got dog powder one ar ?? Neva seen b4 .. hehe. Pee Poo still a problem - haven't think of a solution yet. Last nite i went out to shop for groceries, when i came back, he pooped on floor , pee in tray and played with the newspaper again lor. But he knew he did something wrong coz when i came home, he dun dare to move. He laid on the floor looking around. Usually when he sees me come home, he will jump like crazy one. I pointed to the newspaper and scolded him "why did u play with newspaper?? Didnt' u noe it's wrong?? U bad dog!!". Then he dun dare to move. Jz laid on floor until i started playing with him after 2 hours of ignoring him lor. hmmm pet shop got sell wan the dog's body powder.ic. hmmm. hahha hepy know you will angry with what it did after u went bck home hahaha.yea , it seem that hepy is just wanted to get attention from you I woke up jz now, he peed in the tray last nite but pooped outsdie of the tray. Maybe the tray is too small. I think he played with newspapers and cincai pee poo coz wanna get my attention gua .. |
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at the moment, i'm trying out this lor. Whenever i see him playing with newspaper , i will scold him super loud then ignore him .. let him sked and noe i angry. Try it out for few weeks see how first lor...
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Apr 27 2007, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 27 2007, 10:55 AM) at the moment, i'm trying out this lor. Whenever i see him playing with newspaper , i will scold him super loud then ignore him .. let him sked and noe i angry. Try it out for few weeks see how first lor... well that's the way la. when u see Hepy gonna chew the newspaper , just firmly '' say NO '' well slowly it will change it bad habit edi wan . Good Luck Syrian .Too bad that LYn less schnanuzer owner , if not can have a schnanuzer gathering ='D but nvm , mayb sooner will more schnanuzer'w owner come and join ? well will wait and see then |
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Apr 27 2007, 11:57 AM
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yalor !! yalor!! Seems like this thread thr's no one chatting except me and you
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Apr 27 2007, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 27 2007, 11:57 AM) yalor . actually this schnanuzer thread i mention nobody will chat anymore wan , but after u get Hepy , it seem you and i just chat at this thread ='X nevermind , hope can still active this thread and hope more schnanuzer owner and schnanuzer lover come and join then Haha |
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jz now I took Hepy go to park play at cyberjaya here. That park nobody go one. I thot I myself wanna relax after the long day of assignments. THen thot wanna bring hepy go out play - let him run here run there. Then hor .. he did followed me about. I walked and he ran. But he kept sitting down after he ran for few seconds. I thot wud is wrong with him - so weird one - why kept sitting down one?. Then after 30 min like that, we came home. I was bitten by a medium size ant!! SO PAINFUL
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Apr 28 2007, 08:37 PM
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aiyo pity lor..
those big big ants bite ppl very painful 1 lehz.. i sked ants very much..but my jack jack like 2 eat ants.. |
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Apr 28 2007, 10:21 PM
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jz now the ants that bit me - ur skin will feel hot and like burning neh
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Apr 28 2007, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 28 2007, 08:23 PM) jz now I took Hepy go to park play at cyberjaya here. That park nobody go one. I thot I myself wanna relax after the long day of assignments. THen thot wanna bring hepy go out play - let him run here run there. Then hor .. he did followed me about. I walked and he ran. But he kept sitting down after he ran for few seconds. I thot wud is wrong with him - so weird one - why kept sitting down one?. Then after 30 min like that, we came home. I was bitten by a medium size ant!! SO PAINFUL omg kelian lor Hepy let those evil big ant bite it wasn't ur fault la Syrian u just wan Hepy can go out play play mar , dun blame urself. but it seem the park is very very dangerous with those big ant == i let ant bite before , those big ant make me pain oso ...== |
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Apr 29 2007, 12:50 AM
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but all parks also got ants, right?? I dunno if i shud bring Hepy out to park to play again or not
Added on April 29, 2007, 12:50 amI thot of buying those shoes for doggie but my friend told me it's a waste of money. Coz the dog won't wear and even if you force it to wear, it'll keep wanting to pull it off .. This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 29 2007, 12:50 AM |
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Apr 29 2007, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 29 2007, 12:50 AM) but all parks also got ants, right?? I dunno if i shud bring Hepy out to park to play again or not hmm my lui lui no go park before wo..cuz my area here got maybe some stray cat and my neighbour ask me better not bring my furkid out to garden is bcause lots of stray cat maybe..and cause lots of kutus after my neighbour bring her puppy go for walk at garden so i will just bring my lui lui go to shopping pet safari there only .that's it.but i no buy shoes for my lui lui. but my gf plan to buy her one soon...haha ==Added on April 29, 2007, 12:50 amI thot of buying those shoes for doggie but my friend told me it's a waste of money. Coz the dog won't wear and even if you force it to wear, it'll keep wanting to pull it off .. |
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Apr 29 2007, 10:01 AM
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go pet safari there .. u put lui lui walk on herself or u carry her one ?
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Apr 29 2007, 11:43 AM
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If you bring dog into Pet Safari, leash or carry no problem.... but if you go shopping in Ikano... you will have to carry coz the public can be particular when they see dog walking on leash...
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Apr 29 2007, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 29 2007, 10:01 AM) syrian yeah , crazymouse_yyh was right.u can carry ur dog or leash ur dog at pet safari there , but if u go shopping at ikano area. i have to let my furkid stay at carry bag . so if i bring my furkid to eat oso have to sit at alfresco area which mean is outside of the restaurant.that's why i bought one carry bag so my furkid can stay in carry bag while i go shopping at ikano oso. |
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Apr 29 2007, 02:05 PM
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can actually carry my Hepy around in KL area??? Eg Petaling St, etc..
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Apr 29 2007, 06:54 PM
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You may end up scaring your dog for Petaling Street is very busy and noisy and got some weird people walking around.... don't stress your puppy too much.
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Apr 29 2007, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 29 2007, 06:54 PM) You may end up scaring your dog for Petaling Street is very busy and noisy and got some weird people walking around.... don't stress your puppy too much. Syrian ...as what crazymouse_yyh said is true oso. u see? petaling street to me..i oso scare to go there edi. well even i myself oso dislike to be there.so i dun think ur hepy will like to be there too . Pet safari or pet gathering or join some event is good enough edi This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 29 2007, 08:58 PM |
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Apr 29 2007, 09:00 PM
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eh better don go petaling street ler..
my aunt bought my niece there n her gold bracelet got cut off n she din notice.. i sked u carry until half way ppl change it wif a bundle of clothes u oso din notice ler.. samor i'm sure schnauzer can fetch a good price in da market.. *evil* do tell me when ur going 2 petaling street ok? |
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Apr 29 2007, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Apr 29 2007, 09:00 PM) eh better don go petaling street ler.. yea got lots of pick pocket and robber there la...my aunt bought my niece there n her gold bracelet got cut off n she din notice.. i sked u carry until half way ppl change it wif a bundle of clothes u oso din notice ler.. samor i'm sure schnauzer can fetch a good price in da market.. *evil* do tell me when ur going 2 petaling street ok? better not to bring ur furkid Syrian , is bcuz later ppl red eye and envy u are bringing a furkid with ur own...later might be sumthing happen , rather not to take risk. i dun reli like petaling street . |
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not really petaling street. I mean as in IF i want to bring Hepy to the petshop at Petling St there (Petsmore, i think) for grooming, then I need to park my car somewhere far and need to walk ma. Would like to know if it's okay for me to carry him, walking around in KL city
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Apr 30 2007, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 30 2007, 12:45 AM) not really petaling street. I mean as in IF i want to bring Hepy to the petshop at Petling St there (Petsmore, i think) for grooming, then I need to park my car somewhere far and need to walk ma. Would like to know if it's okay for me to carry him, walking around in KL city oh.... please do not go Petsmore for grooming..... you risk making Hepy sick.... their dogs there all got some disease.... better you bring Hepy groom at a real Grooming Center that separates the dogs for sale and grooming.... I always go petsmore to look see and I know the condition. My friend bought a dog there before and it had a disease where it cannot be cured but it is infectious.... so to be cautious, avoid bringing your dog to Petsmore or any of Petaling Street's petshops.... is like bringing someone to a sick room. |
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Apr 30 2007, 02:11 AM
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If you guys staying nearby Subang Jaya SS15, then i would recommend House of Groomers.
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Apr 30 2007, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 30 2007, 12:45 AM) not really petaling street. I mean as in IF i want to bring Hepy to the petshop at Petling St there (Petsmore, i think) for grooming, then I need to park my car somewhere far and need to walk ma. Would like to know if it's okay for me to carry him, walking around in KL city Syrian , i think go those groomer place which is more trustable wan. in case anything happen. |
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Apr 30 2007, 08:59 AM
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ic .. oki
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Apr 30 2007, 10:38 AM
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Apr 30 2007, 12:22 PM
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how bout lee supply?
its near petaling street wat.. u can walk at times square~ |
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Apr 30 2007, 01:18 PM
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where is Lee Supply?? Actually I'm not that familiar with KL's petshops except Petsmore - always got littel shih tzu there one
Digitral, wud kinda vegies u give to Lui Lui? How often? Will the poo become smelly or watery if u feed vegies? |
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Apr 30 2007, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 30 2007, 01:18 PM) where is Lee Supply?? Actually I'm not that familiar with KL's petshops except Petsmore - always got littel shih tzu there one Syrian ,Digitral, wud kinda vegies u give to Lui Lui? How often? Will the poo become smelly or watery if u feed vegies? well i give lui lui carrot.she love to chew it.but then my lui lui poo wont smelly wor. |
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How many u give at one time?? One whole carrot?? Got other vegies u give?? I dunno which to give and which are poisonous.
Added on April 30, 2007, 3:22 pmmy parents are coming tomorrow and I dun want them to noe I bought a dog now. So, I borrowed playpen from YY and put him in living room temporarily - want him to adapt to playpen. But he doens't noe where to go for pee poo wor although his "usual tray" is just there This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 30 2007, 03:22 PM |
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Apr 30 2007, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 30 2007, 02:12 PM) How many u give at one time?? One whole carrot?? Got other vegies u give?? I dunno which to give and which are poisonous. depend . i give like cabbage or carrot lor. but not whole thing la. just some only . let it chew only.Added on April 30, 2007, 3:22 pmmy parents are coming tomorrow and I dun want them to noe I bought a dog now. So, I borrowed playpen from YY and put him in living room temporarily - want him to adapt to playpen. But he doens't noe where to go for pee poo wor although his "usual tray" is just there hmmm..syrian , ur parents dunnoe u bought Hepy wan a?To me , i feel playpen is better , cuz more space for ur furkid to go here and there. the reason why i buy cage for my furkid is my room not enough space for playpen , so when i first bought my furkid , i just train my furkid to stay at cage when i go out.Hmmm...ur parents just come and visit u and not overnight izzit ? but if tat reli ok ar..if dun wan tell ur parents that u own a dog now ? |
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Apr 30 2007, 05:09 PM
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i dun want to let them know now .. I'll get bombarded if i tell now coz i'm still studying. My dad's perception is a student is not suitable to keep any pets
I got borrow playpen from YY but my dog doesn't know how to go to tray to pee poo wor. He cincai pee poo in the playpen and he slept on his own urine and stepped on his own poops At first my mom said come to my place stay overnite for 2 nites but I dun let. I said they kacau kacau only coz my finals' in two weeks time. Then my dad said they'll stay at his fren's place for the 2 weeks. But i dunno if they'll suddenly give me a sudden inspection or not .. datz y sked lor. I shifted all Hepy's stuffs to living room ady and told my housemates to cooperate with me. But last nite, he barked in the playpen and I put him back to my room and sleep with me. I want to get the cage jz in case if my paretns suddenly come hor, I can put Hepy in the playpen and lied about it said he's not my dog ma. Just temporarily.. When my parents are back to hometown, i won't be using the playpen or cage anymore. I'll just set him free in my room like usual when I'm not around. When I'm around, jz set him free and let him run free in the living room whenever he likes to. This post has been edited by Syrian: Apr 30 2007, 05:10 PM |
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Apr 30 2007, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 30 2007, 01:47 PM) Heheh, your Lui Lui sounds like my Chelsea... but my Chelsea likes to eat vegie and fruits. Pear, apple, persimmon, cucumber, cabbage, carrot, choy sum and kangkung she also eat.... QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 30 2007, 05:09 PM) i dun want to let them know now .. I'll get bombarded if i tell now coz i'm still studying. My dad's perception is a student is not suitable to keep any pets Wah.... that's like kinda hard to hide coz Hepy will surely show that you are the owner.... coz of his response and constant staring or noise.... Why not ask your bf help care? Hepy may be more comfortable with your bf.... but of course Hepy will always want you. To me, a playpen is better than a cage.... not as dangerous as cage... but you must really ignore Hepy's barking if you want to hide this from your parents.... coz parents will know wan....I got borrow playpen from YY but my dog doesn't know how to go to tray to pee poo wor. He cincai pee poo in the playpen and he slept on his own urine and stepped on his own poops At first my mom said come to my place stay overnite for 2 nites but I dun let. I said they kacau kacau only coz my finals' in two weeks time. Then my dad said they'll stay at his fren's place for the 2 weeks. But i dunno if they'll suddenly give me a sudden inspection or not .. datz y sked lor. I shifted all Hepy's stuffs to living room ady and told my housemates to cooperate with me. But last nite, he barked in the playpen and I put him back to my room and sleep with me. I want to get the cage jz in case if my paretns suddenly come hor, I can put Hepy in the playpen and lied about it said he's not my dog ma. Just temporarily.. When my parents are back to hometown, i won't be using the playpen or cage anymore. I'll just set him free in my room like usual when I'm not around. When I'm around, jz set him free and let him run free in the living room whenever he likes to. |
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Apr 30 2007, 09:30 PM
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pity hepy..
mayb u try 2 let ur mom noe la.. i lied 2 my mom saying dat i got jack-jack from SPCA.. till now.. |
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Apr 30 2007, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 30 2007, 05:09 PM) i dun want to let them know now .. I'll get bombarded if i tell now coz i'm still studying. My dad's perception is a student is not suitable to keep any pets Hmmm...if that so..but i think u will waste ur money because after u buy the cage and dun wan use it edi .after ur parent went bck to hometown..playpen is better la. well i think Hepy confruse where you let ur Hepy stay now gua , that's why he forget the fomula to pee/poo gua . Well just temporately let hepy stay at playpen then ^^I got borrow playpen from YY but my dog doesn't know how to go to tray to pee poo wor. He cincai pee poo in the playpen and he slept on his own urine and stepped on his own poops At first my mom said come to my place stay overnite for 2 nites but I dun let. I said they kacau kacau only coz my finals' in two weeks time. Then my dad said they'll stay at his fren's place for the 2 weeks. But i dunno if they'll suddenly give me a sudden inspection or not .. datz y sked lor. I shifted all Hepy's stuffs to living room ady and told my housemates to cooperate with me. But last nite, he barked in the playpen and I put him back to my room and sleep with me. I want to get the cage jz in case if my paretns suddenly come hor, I can put Hepy in the playpen and lied about it said he's not my dog ma. Just temporarily.. When my parents are back to hometown, i won't be using the playpen or cage anymore. I'll just set him free in my room like usual when I'm not around. When I'm around, jz set him free and let him run free in the living room whenever he likes to. Added on April 30, 2007, 9:36 pm QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ Apr 30 2007, 09:30 PM) pity hepy.. Hahahaha ...== mayb u try 2 let ur mom noe la.. i lied 2 my mom saying dat i got jack-jack from SPCA.. till now.. ur mum trust ma ? Added on April 30, 2007, 9:38 pm QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 30 2007, 08:49 PM) Heheh, your Lui Lui sounds like my Chelsea... but my Chelsea likes to eat vegie and fruits. Pear, apple, persimmon, cucumber, cabbage, carrot, choy sum and kangkung she also eat.... yeah..my Lui Lui love carrot and cabbage too . Wah.... that's like kinda hard to hide coz Hepy will surely show that you are the owner.... coz of his response and constant staring or noise.... Why not ask your bf help care? Hepy may be more comfortable with your bf.... but of course Hepy will always want you. To me, a playpen is better than a cage.... not as dangerous as cage... but you must really ignore Hepy's barking if you want to hide this from your parents.... coz parents will know wan.... hehehe Chelsea sure very heatlhly because you so well care ur furkid ( every pet of urs ) , crazymouse_yyh so far i haven let my furkid eat fruit . will try apple someday This post has been edited by Digitral: Apr 30 2007, 09:38 PM |
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Apr 30 2007, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Digitral @ Apr 30 2007, 09:35 PM) Hmmm...if that so..but i think u will waste ur money because after u buy the cage and dun wan use it edi .after ur parent went bck to hometown..playpen is better la. well i think Hepy confruse where you let ur Hepy stay now gua , that's why he forget the fomula to pee/poo gua . Well just temporately let hepy stay at playpen then ^^ Try fruits... my Chelsea don't like soft and mushy, she likes sweet and crunchy. If not sweet and crunchy, she won't eat. Spoilt....Added on April 30, 2007, 9:36 pm Hahahaha ...== ur mum trust ma ? Added on April 30, 2007, 9:38 pm yeah..my Lui Lui love carrot and cabbage too . hehehe Chelsea sure very heatlhly because you so well care ur furkid ( every pet of urs ) , crazymouse_yyh so far i haven let my furkid eat fruit . will try apple someday Actually, now I promote natural feedings and holistic food because of what happened to 2 of my beloved dogs.... they both died of Heart Failure, 1 shih tzu at 12 years old and 1 boxer at 7 years old.... really both if I had given the proper foods and never fed them human food, I think their death would be less painful and also longer.... This is why now I make sure Chelsea gets only natural and holistic... treats all also fresh foods and sometimes a bit of raw meat. |
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Cannot let them know now!! I sure kenak 9 9 if let them know now. If after studies, i let them noe, then they won't care. They always say students are not suitable to keep pets one. Today I asked my housemate to play with Hepy more and make him comfortable with my housemate first. Jz now i went to ikano to get the big big big cage and left Hepy at home alone with my houseamte. My housemate said hepy is very guai one and din't bark at all. Then when i came home, Hepy was sleeping with him on his bed and when I asked him to come, he ignored me totally
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 30 2007, 09:51 PM) Try fruits... my Chelsea don't like soft and mushy, she likes sweet and crunchy. If not sweet and crunchy, she won't eat. Spoilt.... Thx Hun for the recommendation . well u really teach me a lot.Actually, now I promote natural feedings and holistic food because of what happened to 2 of my beloved dogs.... they both died of Heart Failure, 1 shih tzu at 12 years old and 1 boxer at 7 years old.... really both if I had given the proper foods and never fed them human food, I think their death would be less painful and also longer.... This is why now I make sure Chelsea gets only natural and holistic... treats all also fresh foods and sometimes a bit of raw meat. and sorry to hear about ur beloved dog ...rest in peace oredi but then I KNOW Chelsea will be more heahtly is because Hun you are taking so well of Chelsea , so im 100% sure Chelsea will stay with you very very long time !and you are a person who would like to share ur experience of dog , this is what i learn from you . Added on May 1, 2007, 1:05 am QUOTE(Syrian @ Apr 30 2007, 10:48 PM) Cannot let them know now!! I sure kenak 9 9 if let them know now. If after studies, i let them noe, then they won't care. They always say students are not suitable to keep pets one. Today I asked my housemate to play with Hepy more and make him comfortable with my housemate first. Jz now i went to ikano to get the big big big cage and left Hepy at home alone with my houseamte. My housemate said hepy is very guai one and din't bark at all. Then when i came home, Hepy was sleeping with him on his bed and when I asked him to come, he ignored me totally hmm....Syrian , then it seem ur parents will get mad if they noe u got a pet now , then have to keep as secrect then ...so you bought cage edi ? well cuz Hepy happy playing with ur housemate and suddenly Hepy no keep in touch with u , so hepy will stick with ur housemate then.but i think hepy not forget u , is maybe showing that he is more like ur housemate now ?This post has been edited by Digitral: May 1 2007, 01:05 AM |
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hmm..hope ur plan will work well..
indeed my parents belif dat i adopted jack2 from spca.. i did research on spca b4 buying jack2 so i'd hv something 2 say in front of them.. they love jack2 very much but they really don like me buying xun-xun.. nvm la its an anniversary gift..n i'll love her~ mayb u let hepy bond wif ur housemate these few days..den when ur parents get bac oni u start bonding wif her den.. its a muz..or u leave her at ikano's pet hotel, which i'm sure u wouldnt do so..u'll miss her~ |
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ May 1 2007, 02:04 AM) hmm..hope ur plan will work well.. hmmm,i not very confident with pet safari pet hotel.cuz heard lots of rummours from there and it a true story ='X but then no need to waste money for bring Hepy to pet hotel beside Hepy haven finish his 3rd jab too . so have to be extra careful even go for boarding service. indeed my parents belif dat i adopted jack2 from spca.. i did research on spca b4 buying jack2 so i'd hv something 2 say in front of them.. they love jack2 very much but they really don like me buying xun-xun.. nvm la its an anniversary gift..n i'll love her~ mayb u let hepy bond wif ur housemate these few days..den when ur parents get bac oni u start bonding wif her den.. its a muz..or u leave her at ikano's pet hotel, which i'm sure u wouldnt do so..u'll miss her~ This post has been edited by Digitral: May 1 2007, 11:13 AM |
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wat rumours?! i left jack-jack there for 3hours before.. |
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Re syrian :
I think u get a cage better loh. If ur mum and dad pay sudden visit, and the time ur Hepy pee and poo, it will be dirty when he is in the play pen. If in the cage, still ok coz got tray. I advise u fast fast buy the cage and start the cage-training loh. The first week will cry and bark, so u need to tahan for the 1st week. The sooner u start the training, the faster Hepy will adapt to it. |
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got .. i bought the cage two days ago. Hepy didn't bark at all in his cage coz he's used to being in the cage. The previous owner told me he lock hepy in cage one from day till nite when he's at work. Today my parents came ady, .. they din say anything coz i said Hepy belongs to my housemate and my housemate went back hometown. I'm jz helping out to jaga. They wanted to paly with Hepy too but u noe lar .. Hepy worr .. so timid around strangers one
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May 1 2007, 10:07 PM
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Wah... lucky lucky hahaha.... later maybe you say that your housemate in the end cannot keep so give it to you as present hahah....
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waa..
good wor.. lucky u..ikekkeez... Added on May 1, 2007, 10:11 pmprobably after ur study when u need 2 move home u can tell ur parents ur housemate din wan him anymore n sold him 2 u.. swt.. This post has been edited by jaunty_niel: May 1 2007, 10:11 PM |
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ May 1 2007, 11:30 AM) u mean u let jack jack stay at pet hotel for 3 hours?well 3 hour is just fine , but not to allow ur furkid stay overnight. Just my 2 cents anyway , is too much pet staying at pet hotel . and it might be lots of viruses at there , and it do happen my gf's friend poddle boarding at there and back with skin disease. i cant blame what it really happen there, but just heard my gf's groomer friend say it quite dangerous to bring furkid boarding at there. Added on May 2, 2007, 1:35 am QUOTE(Syrian @ May 1 2007, 09:42 PM) got .. i bought the cage two days ago. Hepy didn't bark at all in his cage coz he's used to being in the cage. The previous owner told me he lock hepy in cage one from day till nite when he's at work. Today my parents came ady, .. they din say anything coz i said Hepy belongs to my housemate and my housemate went back hometown. I'm jz helping out to jaga. They wanted to paly with Hepy too but u noe lar .. Hepy worr .. so timid around strangers one Syrian ,that good that ur parents didnt suspect you then . Lucky then . well after ur studies then u can tell ur parents that hepy is belong to you edi ='D This post has been edited by Digitral: May 2 2007, 01:35 AM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 1 2007, 09:42 PM) got .. i bought the cage two days ago. Hepy didn't bark at all in his cage coz he's used to being in the cage. The previous owner told me he lock hepy in cage one from day till nite when he's at work. Today my parents came ady, .. they din say anything coz i said Hepy belongs to my housemate and my housemate went back hometown. I'm jz helping out to jaga. They wanted to paly with Hepy too but u noe lar .. Hepy worr .. so timid around strangers one haha, lucky lah u......later tell ur parents that ur frens dun wan the MS already, lazy to take k. Dun say sell to u lah, say they "give" to u, then it would be better. Since ur parents love Hepy, they wont angry gua.......BTW, ur housemate knows whether u "put him/her on the table" or not?? This post has been edited by joanalooidog: May 2 2007, 09:25 AM |
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i got tell all my housemates b4 my parents came
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RUnning here and there is very very normal. Cincai pee and poo is normal also lah, small puppy mah......If he sometimes knows pee at the tray, means he know lah, but only forget, cannot tahan, or get overexcited. Regarding the biting, super normal, teething mah....gums pain and itchy.
Just continue use the word NO!!!!!!! I dunno about others, but i sometimes do cane my puppy, and cage her for one hour when she is too notie. Everytime i cane her, heart pain, but still need to teach lah.... The only thing u need to stop is the KFC and kokocrunch thing. U will regret like jaunty later if u continue doing that. |
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not me ler .. I never feed him with any human food at all. And I read in forums saying that human food will make ur doggie addictive and bad for gum, etc ... That's why I told my housemate to stop giving him human food. But i dunno he got listen to wud i say or not
Added on May 2, 2007, 12:00 pmand why my Hepy ar .. the more I call him, the more he run away ?? He jz like don't like me anymore since the day he played with my housemate and my bf. They never scold him. I'm like the "bad" one in his mind. The more I call him or stop him, then hte more he will do that thing This post has been edited by Syrian: May 2 2007, 12:00 PM |
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mine also. WHen see strangers, the tail wags super fast, rush to them and totally ignore me and my gf. But when no other ppl present, and she wanna play, i call, she'll come fast!! During training time, got treats on my hand, will responds watever i told her. Really WAI SIK dog...........
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same happens 2 me la..
hepy will b addicted 2 da human food if ur bf kept on feeding him like dat.. i wonder y they can go berserk n run here run there..very fast de..like gila like dat.. my housemates oso let him bite..till 1day let him bit till bleed d hor, den oni start 2 scold him.. at 1st so timid where oso don dare go de..stay bside u de sweet nia..but when they r familiar, u call him he oso dowan come la.. |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 2 2007, 10:47 AM) i got tell all my housemates b4 my parents came omg ur housemate feed Hepy with kfc and coco krunch ar...better ask him not to feed those lor...ask him pls co-operate ler...i know is sayang but scare later Hepy unhealthy ler...worry now..better advise them but just advise la..they just want to sayang hepy i know . |
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I told my housemates already lor but dunno if he's going to be ignorant about the subject matter or not lor. After studies, I'll probably tell my dad I adopted Hepy from spca or adopted it from my housemate lor with a small fee. I only know now Hepy doens't seem to like me at all. He sees me, then he fast fast cabut away one. WHen he sees my housemate or bf, he fast fast go to them. I'm the "bad guy" in his mind gua. And they're the "mr good guy". Sigh.
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 2 2007, 09:03 PM) I told my housemates already lor but dunno if he's going to be ignorant about the subject matter or not lor. After studies, I'll probably tell my dad I adopted Hepy from spca or adopted it from my housemate lor with a small fee. I only know now Hepy doens't seem to like me at all. He sees me, then he fast fast cabut away one. WHen he sees my housemate or bf, he fast fast go to them. I'm the "bad guy" in his mind gua. And they're the "mr good guy". Sigh. why like tat huh == aiyoo..Hepy seem to be so love ur housemate and ur bf so much ? just separate for awhile only wor..maybe Hepy noe tat ur housemate give him good food huh ? pamper hepy very much ? |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 3 2007, 12:14 AM) why like tat huh == My housemate and bf pamper he more lar. When they catch Hepy pee or poo or do anything wrong red-handed, they never scold him one. They only clean up the place and then play with him again. I'm different. When I catch him doing something wrong red-handed, I will scold him on the spot - then I'll ignore him for a while (1 - 2 hours like that). He knows I'm the only one who will scold him. Now he doens't really like me jor aiyoo..Hepy seem to be so love ur housemate and ur bf so much ? just separate for awhile only wor..maybe Hepy noe tat ur housemate give him good food huh ? pamper hepy very much ? Added on May 3, 2007, 12:25 amI don't want him to be closer to my housemate or my bf ler. Jeles lar!! He's my dog and I'm supposingly his master. He should be loyal one ma and I want him to be closer to me than anyone else ler. Not that i will restrict him from playing with them - i will not. I only want him to be close to me and listen to me when I ask him to come. This post has been edited by Syrian: May 3 2007, 12:25 AM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 3 2007, 12:23 AM) My housemate and bf pamper he more lar. When they catch Hepy pee or poo or do anything wrong red-handed, they never scold him one. They only clean up the place and then play with him again. I'm different. When I catch him doing something wrong red-handed, I will scold him on the spot - then I'll ignore him for a while (1 - 2 hours like that). He knows I'm the only one who will scold him. Now he doens't really like me jor aiyo . understand here. i know u sure will envy if hepy get so close with ur bf and ur housemate but i know u are teaching ur hepy oso, so have to be strict a bit wan . hahha no wonder la ...ur bf and ur housemate wont scold Hepy if Hepy did wrong...erm...how about try this ? if Hepy did any trick which is like sit or shake hand, then u give Hepy trick ? then u and Hepy will be more close lor.Added on May 3, 2007, 12:25 amI don't want him to be closer to my housemate or my bf ler. Jeles lar!! He's my dog and I'm supposingly his master. He should be loyal one ma and I want him to be closer to me than anyone else ler. Not that i will restrict him from playing with them - i will not. I only want him to be close to me and listen to me when I ask him to come. |
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got ar .. i got listen to you guys. I used treat to teach him "sit" now. Then when he pee poo in tray, i also give him treats. Jz now he's weird wor. He got pee in the tray. Then he go there sniff sniff sniff .. i noe he wanna poo liao coz he kept sniffing there and he ady peed ma. Suddenly he jz walked off - so, i thot he no more wanna poo lor. Few minutes later, I saw his poops at door there!!!! Why he always poop at door there????!!!!!
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Did u try put some poo stain on a newspaper?? everytime u come back, or open cage, bring him to the newspaper, let him smell the poo and pee. Dun bother whether he wanna poo or not, just let him smell.
After some play session, bring him there and let him smell. When he wanna poo, jajalam bring him there let him, then let him smell, then treats....... i think slowly he'll know lah. Its how i train my fifi. For her, pee takes 2 weeks, but poo takes around 1 month leh........dunno y lah. |
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y don try WP's wee wee pad?
i jus sked jack go step on da poo oni.. |
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 4 2007, 11:04 AM) Did u try put some poo stain on a newspaper?? everytime u come back, or open cage, bring him to the newspaper, let him smell the poo and pee. Dun bother whether he wanna poo or not, just let him smell. but some times he noes how to go to newspaper there to do all his pee poo business wor. Sometimes he jz cincai pee poo only. I also dunno wud he want from me. My parents are at KL now .. so, I no more put him in cage. The cage is jz a temporary for him. I never plan to lock him up in cage or playpen one. I lock him in my ROOM After some play session, bring him there and let him smell. When he wanna poo, jajalam bring him there let him, then let him smell, then treats....... i think slowly he'll know lah. Its how i train my fifi. For her, pee takes 2 weeks, but poo takes around 1 month leh........dunno y lah. QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ May 4 2007, 11:09 AM) Kenot use wee wee pad. It'll cost me a lot in the long-run. I might as well save up the money for Hepy's emergency use and use the money to buy accessories or toys or treats for him |
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Ur Hepy wont eat his poo ah? My FIFI sometimes will eat her poo if no one notice she already pooed. So everytime need to quickly pick it up before she start "tasting" it, yuks...........
Like last nite loh, she quitely poo on the newspaper then u know wat happen lah.....that I'm watching drama, when i go check her, she is eating!!! then i quickly scold her loh....actually i think she know eating poo is wrong, bcoz when she sees me, she quickly run and hide. After cleaning, i cage her for punishment. |
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Hahhaahaha ... maybe shih tzu likes to eat poop gua
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 4 2007, 10:39 AM) got ar .. i got listen to you guys. I used treat to teach him "sit" now. Then when he pee poo in tray, i also give him treats. Jz now he's weird wor. He got pee in the tray. Then he go there sniff sniff sniff .. i noe he wanna poo liao coz he kept sniffing there and he ady peed ma. Suddenly he jz walked off - so, i thot he no more wanna poo lor. Few minutes later, I saw his poops at door there!!!! Why he always poop at door there????!!!!! Hepy is reli a fast learner lor. hahaha Hepy know that the tray for pee and poo but still sumtimes will poo at door , i think the back door still got it poo marking smell there.Added on May 4, 2007, 12:38 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 4 2007, 11:52 AM) Hahhaahaha ... maybe shih tzu likes to eat poop gua some puppy will eat poo is maybe become habit edi , and to the pup the poo is quite tasty to it . well some is digest system problem and sum maybe hungry cause it want to eat own poo .But Hepy wont do this , Hepy reli guai ya ^^ This post has been edited by Digitral: May 4 2007, 12:38 PM |
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I jz used white vinegar to wipe the area at my door there. Hopefully will eliminate his previous smell
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I didn't dilute the white vinegar
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i hate vinegar smell la..
lucky these few days he din simply wee n poo.. mayb cos my bf scold him "u wee wee poo poo outside i piak u den i dowan buy xunxun ar..!!!!" very very loud de.. things seems 2 change.. getting better ler.. jtl da play pen u think jack jack will push it down? wanna put xun xun in da playpen but sked jack2 too aggresive go n runtuh-kan da playpen... |
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ May 4 2007, 07:16 PM) jtl da play pen u think jack jack will push it down? I really dun know whether he will push it down. So far, I have not seen any shih tzus push it down la. But I dunno whether your jack jack very 'ngau' or not lawanna put xun xun in da playpen but sked jack2 too aggresive go n runtuh-kan da playpen... |
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i think if u buy four, definitely cannot push down one lah, but confirm jack jack can push it and move it. If u buy only one at put at the door, i think a shih tzu can easily push it down loh......
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jtl .. I already wiped the area/spot with vinegar yesterday. But this morning I woke up and saw his pee at the SAME SPOT again!!!
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 5 2007, 09:07 AM) jtl .. I already wiped the area/spot with vinegar yesterday. But this morning I woke up and saw his pee at the SAME SPOT again!!! After he peed at that spot, did you wipe off the pee with water first and then vinegar? The vinegar is suppose to mask any leftover urine smell but it will not make the dog not go there. If your dog is already used to doing at that spot, then it may be a problem.Perhaps you can go for crate training. This works on the premise that dogs will generally not pee/poo at their sleeping place. Try reading this link. But this requires time and requires for you to be home whilst undergoing this training http://www.training-dogs.com/crate-training.html |
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got .. i got wipe away the urine first .. then mop the floor with detergent .. then only put vinegar .
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waa..
den hv 2 try those home training thing d lor.. jtl got sell rite? train them not 2 wee on da spot de.. dunno liquid or wat.. |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 4 2007, 04:44 PM) I jz used white vinegar to wipe the area at my door there. Hopefully will eliminate his previous smell SYRIAN ,I didnt use white vinegar before although my furkid last time did poo /pee at back door but then after i sucess train my furkid which is toilet train it . then it never ever poo/pee at back door anymore. so i think u cage train it first lor ? cuz i found out i use cage train it is quite effective. hmmm hope thw white vinegar can help to clear those Hepy makring at back door then |
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last nite i went out for grocery shopping, so i put him in the cage. When I came home, he poo in the cage and he tidur on the poops
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 5 2007, 03:01 PM) last nite i went out for grocery shopping, so i put him in the cage. When I came home, he poo in the cage and he tidur on the poops hmmmm @@...if is like that . which wan u feel is convenient to u ? if is playpen , i think i been give some idea to how 2 teach if ur Hepy in the playpen.and if u wanted to let ur Hepy stay in cage while u go out , first thing u have to make sure Hepy poo/pee before going cage . normally i noe the time when my furkid will poo/pee. so from now on u will let Hepy stay in cage while u go out or play pen first? |
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playpen kenot - worse. In playpen, he doens't even know where to pee or poo. He cincai pee and poo in teh playpen and then he lay on top of them. I can't be bathing him everyday - later he sick, i also sick
Added on May 5, 2007, 9:50 pmby the way, how can i regain back my hepy's confidence towards me?? First week, he only follows me and when other ppl call him, he no choi one and he's sked of them. But after the day i started to let Hepy play with my housemate, now he only follow my housemate. No more choi me when i call him and no more close to me. Seems like "other people"'s dog This post has been edited by Syrian: May 5 2007, 09:50 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 5 2007, 03:58 PM) playpen kenot - worse. In playpen, he doens't even know where to pee or poo. He cincai pee and poo in teh playpen and then he lay on top of them. I can't be bathing him everyday - later he sick, i also sick Playpen :Added on May 5, 2007, 9:50 pmby the way, how can i regain back my hepy's confidence towards me?? First week, he only follows me and when other ppl call him, he no choi one and he's sked of them. But after the day i started to let Hepy play with my housemate, now he only follow my housemate. No more choi me when i call him and no more close to me. Seems like "other people"'s dog You need to teach hepy which is use newspaper is the right place for hepy to peepoo not on the floor. but then i know sometime accident will happen oso with young pup like hepy that your pup peepoo outside the tray or everywhere inside the playpen.then you have to immediately correction hepy striaght on the spot if you mention the peepoo outside the tray and firmly say "NO". Bring hepy to the spot where you want hepy to do bussiness.bring hepy to the newspaper and wait till hepy finish it poo/pee. and praise it. Cage : so syrian u now are comfirm to let hepy pee/poo in the cage? so ok the..collect it poo with tissue in the cage whr u wan her to do it busines at cage. after u put the poo/pee at the cage, bring it which is carry ur furkid to smell the pee/poo which is u put the pee/poo inside the cage and let hepy smell inside. praise it after it smell even though it didnt do it thr.. repeat and repeat till hepy understand this training. 1. After the hepy eats or drinks bring it right away to the cage to do its business, wait till hepy poo/pee. normally puppy will poo/pee after meal. 2. dun lock inside hepy cage while hepy wanted to do bussiness in the cage because worry tat hepy will tot u are punish him and hepy will not poo/pee there already. 5. ALways praise ur furkid, once it does it business with treats of course is more effective |
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no wor .. Hepy is weird ar. He LOVES the cage a lot!!! I open the cage door, he also won't come out. He prefers to stay in the cage and he always sleep inside. Just now when I carry him out from cage, he start to walk in round and sniff the floor ... show me sign he want to pee or poo already ... i faster put him back in cage. THen he straight away lay down and continue sleep again in the cage
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 6 2007, 01:16 PM) no wor .. Hepy is weird ar. He LOVES the cage a lot!!! I open the cage door, he also won't come out. He prefers to stay in the cage and he always sleep inside. Just now when I carry him out from cage, he start to walk in round and sniff the floor ... show me sign he want to pee or poo already ... i faster put him back in cage. THen he straight away lay down and continue sleep again in the cage well,normally dog if tat place is for it sleeping place right, it will not use that place as a poo/pee place edi. |
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yalor .. datz y i
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 6 2007, 01:36 PM) yalor .. datz y i maybe Hepy confruse lor, that's why always go there pee/poo , and maybe it become a habit edi . so i hope ur method can work then.Hmmm . normally dog willl poo after meal , before meal , or after play . then they will poo . well my furkid is after meal then will poo wan . is better to know the timing when ur furkid wanted to go for poo/pee. is much more easier. but no worries then , ur hepy is still young wurt. |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 6 2007, 03:19 PM) maybe Hepy confruse lor, that's why always go there pee/poo , and maybe it become a habit edi . so i hope ur method can work then.Hmmm . normally dog willl poo after meal , before meal , or after play . then they will poo . well my furkid is after meal then will poo wan . is better to know the timing when ur furkid wanted to go for poo/pee. is much more easier. but no worries then , ur hepy is still young wurt. Could it be possibly that he's sked of pee poo?? He jz woke up not long ago. I take him to the tray at door there. He dun want to pee poo. He looks at me with his smiling face |
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i think u better put back the tray under the cage. Puppy's bladder is small wor, who knows later he accidentaly pee or poo but u dun have a tray under the cage???
Or like this lah, when u put Hepy back to his cage, put back the tray under it. WHen u let him roam free, take the tray and put at where u wan Hepy to do his business loh. BTW, the tray got his pee and poo smell or not?? Mayb he knows that the tray is under the cage, can say that its part of his house, so he dun wanna dirty it leh........ This post has been edited by joanalooidog: May 6 2007, 03:41 PM |
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 6 2007, 03:39 PM) i think u better put back the tray under the cage. Puppy's bladder is small wor, who knows later he accidentaly pee or poo but u dun have a tray under the cage??? I dun think he will ever pee poo in his cage. He just love the cage so much. He treats the cage as his "home sweet home". He play play play, then suddenly will run back into his cage to rest a while. Then come out play playl play again. Then jump back to cage rest again. I didn't lock him in cage one and even if I do when i need to go out, he didn't even whine or bark in the cage. He just love it so much. So, i don't think he will dirty his own "home" with pee poo. Last nite he was in his cage, then he suddenly jumped out from the cage and ran to living room to urinate Or like this lah, when u put Hepy back to his cage, put back the tray under it. WHen u let him roam free, take the tray and put at where u wan Hepy to do his business loh. BTW, the tray got his pee and poo smell or not?? Mayb he knows that the tray is under the cage, can say that its part of his house, so he dun wanna dirty it leh........ |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 6 2007, 04:59 PM) I dun think he will ever pee poo in his cage. He just love the cage so much. He treats the cage as his "home sweet home". He play play play, then suddenly will run back into his cage to rest a while. Then come out play playl play again. Then jump back to cage rest again. I didn't lock him in cage one and even if I do when i need to go out, he didn't even whine or bark in the cage. He just love it so much. So, i don't think he will dirty his own "home" with pee poo. Last nite he was in his cage, then he suddenly jumped out from the cage and ran to living room to urinate Hep so love his own cage ar...so it mean he will not poo/pee at cage lor. if tat place is just like his home then.Hmm...nvm , now u just put the tray with his poo/pee with newspaper . see how it goes. normally dog will not poo/pee at it sleeping place. cuz ur Hepy although nt at cage and sleep with u , after 6am like tat hepy will ask u to help it clean up it poo/pee rite. so it mean ur hepy very like clean wan lor. nvm try ur method 1st then |
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May 6 2007, 05:28 PM
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i hope jack will love his cage..
he poo n wee till da coating oso came out d.. bite bite da iron bars.. if i put him inside da cage he''ll hate me.. |
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May 6 2007, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ May 6 2007, 05:28 PM) i hope jack will love his cage.. hahah well. mostly dog will dislike stay in cage wan.he poo n wee till da coating oso came out d.. bite bite da iron bars.. if i put him inside da cage he''ll hate me.. Hepy is different from what syrian said . hepy reli love cage and just like it own home ^^ |
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wah ... I put the tray back to the original spot coz I saw him jz like want to do bisnis there ma. Then he secretly go pee behind the door when I left for kitchen!! TWICE !!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 6 2007, 07:23 PM) wah ... I put the tray back to the original spot coz I saw him jz like want to do bisnis there ma. Then he secretly go pee behind the door when I left for kitchen!! TWICE !!!!!!!! Aiyo normally if dog will go back the spot to pee/poo is cuz of the it makring still there or else it have bcome it a reli bad habit edi. |
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do u think it's been a habit?? Or he's just confused? Last night, I let him out in my room as usual when I zzzz . Eary in the morning, he woke me up at 6 something as usual. He peed in the tray and he pooped in his cage
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 7 2007, 09:46 AM) do u think it's been a habit?? Or he's just confused? Last night, I let him out in my room as usual when I zzzz . Eary in the morning, he woke me up at 6 something as usual. He peed in the tray and he pooped in his cage i think hepy is reli confrusing now.as usual hepy still will pee on it tray but then will poo at his cage ? hmmm. if is like this im sure Hepy is very confruse where should he poo/pee now. well , now Hepy is sleeping outside the cage or inside the cage ? or else, Hepy oso smell that his poo makring is in the cage oso ? because u tell me tat it poo/pee at cage before right right after u bck from campus and it sleep on it own poo right ? if im not mistaken |
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that was last week when I first bought the cage home. I locked him in the cage when I went to campus and I guess he kenot tahan, so he jz poo in the cage and sleep on it
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 7 2007, 04:26 PM) that was last week when I first bought the cage home. I locked him in the cage when I went to campus and I guess he kenot tahan, so he jz poo in the cage and sleep on it yea...if ur Hepy cannot tahan sure will poo/pee at the cage wanHmmm , so now u wanna let ur Hepy poo / pee at tray right ? if is like this ..ur hepy cage oso got the hepy's poo/pee marking there. so that's why Hepy very very confrusing now gua. and then now Hepy tot it got 3 places to do it own bussiness . 1. backdoor 2.tray 3.cage it tot this 3 spot is for it to poo/pee edi .so either 2 have to clear those marking of it poo/pee smell edi.if not , Hepy will be more more confruse and it will bcome habit . |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 7 2007, 04:31 PM) yea...if ur Hepy cannot tahan sure will poo/pee at the cage wan Have to let him pee poo at tray when he is free to roam lor. I jz came home not long ago .. I opened his cage let him come out hor, he also dun want to come out. When he saw me opened the room door, he wagged his tail super fast and stand up. Then i fast fast open the cage door, he also dun want to come out ar. He go lick lick hte tray ... then play with his toys INSIDE the cage Hmmm , so now u wanna let ur Hepy poo / pee at tray right ? if is like this ..ur hepy cage oso got the hepy's poo/pee marking there. so that's why Hepy very very confrusing now gua. and then now Hepy tot it got 3 places to do it own bussiness . 1. backdoor 2.tray 3.cage it tot this 3 spot is for it to poo/pee edi .so either 2 have to clear those marking of it poo/pee smell edi.if not , Hepy will be more more confruse and it will bcome habit . I'll use vinegar to clean the marking smell again and see how it goes. Now dun really have time to train him pee poo coz final is here. Added on May 7, 2007, 5:22 pmSian lar!! u know what he jz did ??? I was just saying he is guai and sayang him. Next minute when I was typing message here, he peed on my bed!!!! 1/2 of my bed WET with his urine and DAMN SMELLY!!!! This post has been edited by Syrian: May 7 2007, 05:22 PM |
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haha, Syrian is mad now..........wat 2 do, Since Hepy is still small, can do nothing. Thats the reason y i dun let my puppy sleep on my bed. If i wan to sayang him on my bed, I'll lay one babby comforter on top of the bed and put her on it. She is restricted to leave the comforter. Once Fifi pee on the comforter, luckily din pass through and kena my bed.
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Of course mad liao!! He has never peed on my bed and he loves to go to my bed to oi oi one ler. Why his sleeping place suddenly become his toilet???? I still thot he's such a good boy and always praise him good boy coz neva pee on my bed before unlike the shihtzu I had last time (owez pee on my bed one). But i really dunno why he did it ttoday!!! I really kenot understand what is in his mind lar!! SIGH!
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 7 2007, 04:34 PM) Have to let him pee poo at tray when he is free to roam lor. I jz came home not long ago .. I opened his cage let him come out hor, he also dun want to come out. When he saw me opened the room door, he wagged his tail super fast and stand up. Then i fast fast open the cage door, he also dun want to come out ar. He go lick lick hte tray ... then play with his toys INSIDE the cage hmm my furkid do pee/poo at my bed before ..a very very long time ago..and i penalised it stay at cage.cuz last time i will punish my furkid stay at cage once it did sumthing wrong . so it will know that it did wrong thing edi .I'll use vinegar to clean the marking smell again and see how it goes. Now dun really have time to train him pee poo coz final is here. Added on May 7, 2007, 5:22 pmSian lar!! u know what he jz did ??? I was just saying he is guai and sayang him. Next minute when I was typing message here, he peed on my bed!!!! 1/2 of my bed WET with his urine and DAMN SMELLY!!!! but one thing is ur Hepy love cage so much . have to find one thing to show tat u r punish it.if not Hepy wont understand what is it doing now , and what will make it owner angry or sad or either happy . Hepy seem so so confrusing . well i understand why u angry , tat time when my furkid did poo/pee at bed.i was so angry , but one thing i feel is my problem too that maybe i still dun understand to arrange the time for it to pee/poo . but now i was so easy to allow my furkid to pee/poo...i think every dog the same wan ler..either poo before meal ...poo after meal or poo after playing time( excited ) . but then i been give the tips are just a guideline and u have to make sure all the technique suits with your lifestyle. Whatever works for you and your dog, and convenient to u or not.temporately let ur furkid stay at playpen or cage. dun give it so much freedom 1st . actually the 1 week i bought my furkid i been train my furkid get used to stay at a cage and just play with my furkid just 5 hours a day to allow my furkid will not bcome a manja and got this separate anxiety behaviour lor. and my furkid tat time been thinking of training it to poo/pee at toilet edi , 1st week and 2nd week sure got mistake but after tat all sucess edi.so the problem now , i think just let it stay at playpen all the time . if it simply poo at playpen oso oso easily clean.To me , if ur space /room enough for a playpen , i think the best way to teach ur dog is at playpen .really.if ur hepy is sucess this poo/pee problem , then more freedom it got lor.like my furkid now is so freedom and sleep with me at bed...i hope u can bear this training with ur furkid . good luck syrian This post has been edited by Digitral: May 7 2007, 08:34 PM |
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ya .. he is a very confusing dog. He himself is confused. I also confused liao why he did that. He is sked of "leash"!! :keke:. He doesn't really like to be leash for long hours. IF only leash him for 2 hours like that, he still okay but not more than 2 hours lor. After 2 hours, he will struggle one. At least all of you guy's doggies are normal. They pee poo after/before meal and after play time. My Hepy dunno why can tahan for HOURS no need pee or poo one wor. So weird. Until now, I still dun get his timing yet. He jz pee whenever he likes or want.
Just now when i found out he peed on my bed, I took him to my bed and press his head down for him to smell. Then I smack his ass one time. And I took him to the tray and let him smeel his own urine/poop smell there. THen I put him into the cage and I scolded him for cincai pee-ing. That was this evening. I caged him until now. I opened the cage door again .. he dun dare to come out liao. He looks like want to come out and he jz stand at the cage door there but he dun dare to come out liao. Sigh... i opened the cage door and i said "hepy, don't cincai shh shh again ar .. if u cincai shee shee again, i'm going to smack your ass real hard.". He dun dare to come out. |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 7 2007, 09:07 PM) ya .. he is a very confusing dog. He himself is confused. I also confused liao why he did that. He is sked of "leash"!! :keke:. He doesn't really like to be leash for long hours. IF only leash him for 2 hours like that, he still okay but not more than 2 hours lor. After 2 hours, he will struggle one. At least all of you guy's doggies are normal. They pee poo after/before meal and after play time. My Hepy dunno why can tahan for HOURS no need pee or poo one wor. So weird. Until now, I still dun get his timing yet. He jz pee whenever he likes or want. hmmm...i think have to patient lor . last time i teach my furkid oso have to be very patient wan . but once ur furkid know how the training goes, then will be more easy to train edi . i just know Hepy very confruse now only , still can settle it .but my method been given ...so i hope it help lor ....><Just now when i found out he peed on my bed, I took him to my bed and press his head down for him to smell. Then I smack his ass one time. And I took him to the tray and let him smeel his own urine/poop smell there. THen I put him into the cage and I scolded him for cincai pee-ing. That was this evening. I caged him until now. I opened the cage door again .. he dun dare to come out liao. He looks like want to come out and he jz stand at the cage door there but he dun dare to come out liao. Sigh... i opened the cage door and i said "hepy, don't cincai shh shh again ar .. if u cincai shee shee again, i'm going to smack your ass real hard.". He dun dare to come out. |
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Wait after my finals baru got time keep an eye on him liao. I think I'll lock him in cage for the moment. Restrict his freedom and dun let him out for too many hours a day until i finish my finals ... then i can supervise him 24 hours.
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 8 2007, 08:47 AM) Wait after my finals baru got time keep an eye on him liao. I think I'll lock him in cage for the moment. Restrict his freedom and dun let him out for too many hours a day until i finish my finals ... then i can supervise him 24 hours. syrian good luck in ur final . well dun worry tat much la . Hepy is still so young , and i know hepy is a fast leaner too , so confruse bothering Hepy for doing poo/pee problem . well , just one thing always bear in mind . not to say vruel to ur furkid . sumtimes too much freedom gave to ur furkid , and ur hepy doesn't understand what u exactly want to do for him . btw . not to teach u 24 hour cage him la...just a schedule like a training ur hepy . not too much freedom given to ur furkid if not later u reli spoiled ur own furkid lor. the 1st time i bought my furkid my breeder been teach me how 2 train my puppy . anyway syrian good luck ya . i hope after ur final . this problem will be solved edi , as my method of training been given . u just review back the thread pages then . |
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Last nite i tried Joanneloidog's method of training (in shihtzu thread). Wah .. kenot ar. My Hepy so kolian neh. He stand there for 2 hours and din pee poo at all until his legs so xuan and he whined. THen I put him back to cage and went for my midterm exam. i came back around 9 something and I let him out and put him at tray there. He stood there by himself and dun dare to move for about 15 minutes like that, then he ran to us crying (barking in high pitch tone) and his face so cham .. wahlau .. I thot wud happened. I faster carry him up and he was still crying when I carried him up. I stroke his back. Then paly with him. Suddenly he noe the command "come" ..
Note: I think Hepy thought he kenot pee poo in front of us. I think he is sked to pee poo in front of us already. He got the wrong concept that we allow him to pee poo in front of us but not cincai pee poo everywhere. Now he dun dare to pee poo in front of us ar. Last nite he laid on the floor while peeing - wahlau - his body all wet and I had to bathed him middle of the nite This post has been edited by Syrian: May 9 2007, 10:42 AM |
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wow i didnt know that there's so much MS fans here
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A lot of ppl selling at that price for pure breed. You should go to garage sale and view
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 9 2007, 10:42 AM) and now we're finding a husband for her, if anyone's selling MS (pure breed) around rm500-rm1000, please leave me a PM If you are looking for one with cert, then I don't think that you can get one at RM500 but I think RM900-RM1,000 should be relatively easy to find. Are you looking for a puppy or adult? If adult, then maybe RM600 to RM700 can find la but not so easy. Not many people selling adults. |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 9 2007, 10:33 AM) Last nite i tried Joanneloidog's method of training (in shihtzu thread). Wah .. kenot ar. My Hepy so kolian neh. He stand there for 2 hours and din pee poo at all until his legs so xuan and he whined. THen I put him back to cage and went for my midterm exam. i came back around 9 something and I let him out and put him at tray there. He stood there by himself and dun dare to move for about 15 minutes like that, then he ran to us crying (barking in high pitch tone) and his face so cham .. wahlau .. I thot wud happened. I faster carry him up and he was still crying when I carried him up. I stroke his back. Then paly with him. Suddenly he noe the command "come" .. wah, really ah?? did u punish him b4 when Hepy cincai pee or poo? mayb he think that if he let u know he pee or poo, u'll angry. SO thats y he dun wanna pee or poo in front of u. The paper got the pee and poo stain or not?? must have wor....Note: I think Hepy thought he kenot pee poo in front of us. I think he is sked to pee poo in front of us already. He got the wrong concept that we allow him to pee poo in front of us but not cincai pee poo everywhere. Now he dun dare to pee poo in front of us ar. Last nite he laid on the floor while peeing - wahlau - his body all wet and I had to bathed him middle of the nite u try like this lah, now whenever he pee and poo, regardless where lah, just give him a treat. Something he pee on the floor. Then u bring him to the paper where got pee stain, let him smell, then treat. Poo on the floor, bring the poo to the paper, let him smell, then treat. Slowly lah.......takes time i think. |
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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ May 9 2007, 11:06 AM) wah, really ah?? did u punish him b4 when Hepy cincai pee or poo? mayb he think that if he let u know he pee or poo, u'll angry. SO thats y he dun wanna pee or poo in front of u. The paper got the pee and poo stain or not?? must have wor.... Last time when cincai pee poo .. let him smel lor .. then put the urine on tray and let him smell again lor. Then scold him lor. Newspaper got pee poo stain. Even got the poo there .. sigh. Last nite he poo twice behind my door again liao but I jz pick up and din scold him this morning coz I want him to regain back his confidence first. He jz sit there and look at me when I pick up - his face a bit sked I scold him. But i din say anything. So, you mean if now he cincai pee poo on floor, I also give him treat ? Then take him to newspaper smell .. then treat again ?u try like this lah, now whenever he pee and poo, regardless where lah, just give him a treat. Something he pee on the floor. Then u bring him to the paper where got pee stain, let him smell, then treat. Poo on the floor, bring the poo to the paper, let him smell, then treat. Slowly lah.......takes time i think. |
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Mayb last time after Hepy cincai pee or poo, u take him to the paper, then only u scold him is it? Mayb bcoz of this he scared of the tray.
after cincai pee and poo, point to the pee or poo, say NO......take to newspaper first, let him smell then only give him a treat. I dunno whether will it work or not, just try lah......... This post has been edited by joanalooidog: May 9 2007, 11:15 AM |
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Syrian: i've searched high and low at the garage sales but they left pure breed female only
JTL: jade worth rm500 and with cert *giggle* and the parents&grandparents are all champion line, but her parents stop breeding already |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 9 2007, 10:33 AM) Last nite i tried Joanneloidog's method of training (in shihtzu thread). Wah .. kenot ar. My Hepy so kolian neh. He stand there for 2 hours and din pee poo at all until his legs so xuan and he whined. THen I put him back to cage and went for my midterm exam. i came back around 9 something and I let him out and put him at tray there. He stood there by himself and dun dare to move for about 15 minutes like that, then he ran to us crying (barking in high pitch tone) and his face so cham .. wahlau .. I thot wud happened. I faster carry him up and he was still crying when I carried him up. I stroke his back. Then paly with him. Suddenly he noe the command "come" .. hmm that's why ..i said before , if ur furkid reli reli pee/poo at the place tat u dun wan . u cannnot scold hepy oso...just faster carry hepy at the spot tat u wan him to do bussiness.no wonder u dunno the timing for hepy to do bussiness...HmmmNote: I think Hepy thought he kenot pee poo in front of us. I think he is sked to pee poo in front of us already. He got the wrong concept that we allow him to pee poo in front of us but not cincai pee poo everywhere. Now he dun dare to pee poo in front of us ar. Last nite he laid on the floor while peeing - wahlau - his body all wet and I had to bathed him middle of the nite Added on May 9, 2007, 12:25 pm QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 9 2007, 10:42 AM) wow i didnt know that there's so much MS fans here Jade is so cute ya ^^![]() Jade darling <3 and now we're finding a husband for her, if anyone's selling MS (pure breed) around rm500-rm1000, please leave me a PM Added on May 9, 2007, 12:29 pm QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 9 2007, 11:15 AM) Syrian: i've searched high and low at the garage sales but they left pure breed female only huh rm 500 with cert huh? so cheap ? JTL: jade worth rm500 and with cert *giggle* and the parents&grandparents are all champion line, but her parents stop breeding already This post has been edited by Digitral: May 9 2007, 12:29 PM |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 9 2007, 10:33 AM) Last nite i tried Joanneloidog's method of training (in shihtzu thread). Wah .. kenot ar. My Hepy so kolian neh. He stand there for 2 hours and din pee poo at all until his legs so xuan and he whined. THen I put him back to cage and went for my midterm exam. i came back around 9 something and I let him out and put him at tray there. He stood there by himself and dun dare to move for about 15 minutes like that, then he ran to us crying (barking in high pitch tone) and his face so cham .. wahlau .. I thot wud happened. I faster carry him up and he was still crying when I carried him up. I stroke his back. Then paly with him. Suddenly he noe the command "come" .. syrian ,Note: I think Hepy thought he kenot pee poo in front of us. I think he is sked to pee poo in front of us already. He got the wrong concept that we allow him to pee poo in front of us but not cincai pee poo everywhere. Now he dun dare to pee poo in front of us ar. Last nite he laid on the floor while peeing - wahlau - his body all wet and I had to bathed him middle of the nite btw.from now on u must create a timetable or discipline to allow Hepy find back it confident and housebreaking problem will be solve easily. No need to scold him every time when hepu is misses his target right... Hepy though he is not good enough for you. and then hepy reli feels that he have to forget every thing he learn and refresh.anyway , start all over again and again.treat him like a new puppy, Take him for a potty straight away every time when he finish his meal. Don't let him play/free not until he does his business 1st.dun feel this is cruelya. Ask him to go to the spot u wanted hepy to poo/pee and say POO POO'' ( or whatever u wan to say will do bussiness ). prepare take treats . BUT If hepy doesn't want to poo, please wait for few 5-10 mins and start this training all over again till he does his bussiness ya.always remember to reward hepy ! with treats and show tat u r happy ( very happy when u see hepy done his bussiness and praise him!!!.then what u can do now is just follow back and gone through this process in the future with ur furkid even if this will take you up to a week and more.is like tat wan...training have to patient oh ! if during ur training with hepy will learn the right spot! When he reaches that 'target', reward him with a bigger treat.always remember the bearest spot it get , the bigger treat it GOT !!! haha Added on May 9, 2007, 12:57 pm QUOTE(jtl @ May 9 2007, 12:35 PM) lil_cathy ,LOL....is impossible now can find a cert MS and below rm 900 lor This post has been edited by Digitral: May 9 2007, 01:00 PM |
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digitral: yeaps, because last time the breeder cannot afford too many dogs in his apartment, thats why even though its champion line also sell so cheap, no the breeder dont breed anymore..and thank u o0o~ jade's like the queen of the house already *giggle*
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 9 2007, 12:55 PM) syrian , eh, then meaning after he makan right, i wait about 5 minutes. Then take him to tray there. If he didn't pee/poo in 15 minutes, I set him free a while for about 5 minutes. Then take him to tray again for 15 minutes until he pee poo. If he din again, then set him free again for 5 minutes first. Continue this until he pee/poo? btw.from now on u must create a timetable or discipline to allow Hepy find back it confident and housebreaking problem will be solve easily. No need to scold him every time when hepu is misses his target right... Hepy though he is not good enough for you. and then hepy reli feels that he have to forget every thing he learn and refresh.anyway , start all over again and again.treat him like a new puppy, Take him for a potty straight away every time when he finish his meal. Don't let him play/free not until he does his business 1st.dun feel this is cruelya. Ask him to go to the spot u wanted hepy to poo/pee and say POO POO'' ( or whatever u wan to say will do bussiness ). prepare take treats . BUT If hepy doesn't want to poo, please wait for few 5-10 mins and start this training all over again till he does his bussiness ya.always remember to reward hepy ! with treats and show tat u r happy ( very happy when u see hepy done his bussiness and praise him!!!.then what u can do now is just follow back and gone through this process in the future with ur furkid even if this will take you up to a week and more.is like tat wan...training have to patient oh ! if during ur training with hepy will learn the right spot! When he reaches that 'target', reward him with a bigger treat.always remember the bearest spot it get , the bigger treat it GOT !!! haha Last nite I treated him like a new puppy again. After he makan, i straight take him to tray lor .. then he stood there for like 2 hours until his legs super xuan .. I also sit next to him until tired ar. Then I put him back in cage coz he din pee poo at all. He was whining and crying already but dun dare to move - he's sked I will scold him if he leave the tray. Then nite time after my exam, i came home, I fed him a bit of supper and take him to tray again .. he also stand there for like 15 minutes and I didn't sit with him. I sat at my desk and watch him from time to time. He suddenly ran to us, crying. He cried while running to us. I thot wud happen. His face was so cham and kolian. I carried him up and I stroke him and he was crying under my embrace |
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May 9 2007, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 9 2007, 01:17 PM) digitral: yeaps, because last time the breeder cannot afford too many dogs in his apartment, thats why even though its champion line also sell so cheap, no the breeder dont breed anymore..and thank u o0o~ jade's like the queen of the house already *giggle* reli ? mind to let me know who's the breeder? i mean the contact ?but good news for me, because i've found another breeder, rm600++ with cert,vaccination,deworm..also champion+imported line~ yayness~~ ^^ hehehe ...so next time if got chance i can buy from him/her mah ^^ Added on May 9, 2007, 6:58 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 9 2007, 03:33 PM) eh, then meaning after he makan right, i wait about 5 minutes. Then take him to tray there. If he didn't pee/poo in 15 minutes, I set him free a while for about 5 minutes. Then take him to tray again for 15 minutes until he pee poo. If he din again, then set him free again for 5 minutes first. Continue this until he pee/poo? poor little Hepy ...cuz now hepy scare to poo/pee in front of u .and then when after u away from room and go out to campus then ur furkid only pee/poo right ? that's why now have to find bck it confident..so how's it goes today.i hope the method i give can help hepy to found bck it confident to pee/poo in front of u.ya. now have to train it after meal then poo. Last nite I treated him like a new puppy again. After he makan, i straight take him to tray lor .. then he stood there for like 2 hours until his legs super xuan .. I also sit next to him until tired ar. Then I put him back in cage coz he din pee poo at all. He was whining and crying already but dun dare to move - he's sked I will scold him if he leave the tray. Then nite time after my exam, i came home, I fed him a bit of supper and take him to tray again .. he also stand there for like 15 minutes and I didn't sit with him. I sat at my desk and watch him from time to time. He suddenly ran to us, crying. He cried while running to us. I thot wud happen. His face was so cham and kolian. I carried him up and I stroke him and he was crying under my embrace This post has been edited by Digitral: May 9 2007, 06:58 PM |
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 9 2007, 01:17 PM) digitral: yeaps, because last time the breeder cannot afford too many dogs in his apartment, thats why even though its champion line also sell so cheap, no the breeder dont breed anymore..and thank u o0o~ jade's like the queen of the house already *giggle* eh, RM 600+ with cert .. super cheap ler.... Mind to give me the contact as well ? but good news for me, because i've found another breeder, rm600++ with cert,vaccination,deworm..also champion+imported line~ yayness~~ ^^ Digitral, Hepy didn't pee poo in front of me at all today. This morning I went to see doc and when i came back, I saw him pee in the cage already (the newspaper wet and yellowish). I dunno how to train ler if everyday he also like that. But seriously, today i haven see him pee poo yet. I jz gave him his dinner and he straight walk into cage to sleep. |
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May 9 2007, 07:16 PM
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If you get a 2nd MS now, double your headache lah.... and training 2 puppies at the same age could make it slower or there can be a dominance problem when the dog matures.... I kena before so learnt from mistake. It is best to get dogs with an age gap of 2 years.... less headache... but your Hepy is more happy to have you only than share your attention with another dog.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 9 2007, 07:16 PM) If you get a 2nd MS now, double your headache lah.... and training 2 puppies at the same age could make it slower or there can be a dominance problem when the dog matures.... I kena before so learnt from mistake. It is best to get dogs with an age gap of 2 years.... less headache... but your Hepy is more happy to have you only than share your attention with another dog. Not now .. until i manage to train hepy properly .. tehn baru consider |
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May 9 2007, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 9 2007, 07:06 PM) eh, RM 600+ with cert .. super cheap ler.... Mind to give me the contact as well ? hmmm ... Hepy reli scare of pee/poo in front of u ler.. btw , i reli hope Hepy will sucess this training . use my method . i hope it fine. and is the best way to found bck Hepy confident . try ya ^^well...Hepy reli a fast leaner to me , so syrian , always remember u can do it ='D Digitral, Hepy didn't pee poo in front of me at all today. This morning I went to see doc and when i came back, I saw him pee in the cage already (the newspaper wet and yellowish). I dunno how to train ler if everyday he also like that. But seriously, today i haven see him pee poo yet. I jz gave him his dinner and he straight walk into cage to sleep. Added on May 9, 2007, 8:06 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 9 2007, 07:49 PM) hehehe , that's good. This post has been edited by Digitral: May 9 2007, 08:06 PM |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 9 2007, 08:04 PM) hmmm ... Hepy reli scare of pee/poo in front of u ler.. btw , i reli hope Hepy will sucess this training . use my method . i hope it fine. and is the best way to found bck Hepy confident . try ya ^^well...Hepy reli a fast leaner to me , so syrian , always remember u can do it ='D Ya .. he is sked to pee poo in front of me. I'm trying to gain back his trust now and I've been playing with him a lot. He starts to follow me around again now and when I say "hepy come. Come boy"..... he will come to me one Added on May 9, 2007, 8:06 pm hehehe , that's good. As for the second puppy thingy, I'm considering a second MS or Silky Terrier BUT not now Btwn, Hepy is fully on Blackwood puppy now. Few days ago, i was still mixing it with NutriEdge (given by seller). I find blackwood superb!! Now his poops .. no odor at all wor - geng This post has been edited by Syrian: May 9 2007, 09:42 PM |
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May 9 2007, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 9 2007, 09:40 PM) Ya .. he is sked to pee poo in front of me. I'm trying to gain back his trust now and I've been playing with him a lot. He starts to follow me around again now and when I say "hepy come. Come boy"..... he will come to me one hahha that's good to hear that Hepy start to trust u and wont be scare and timid . well , characterlistic still can amend if is timid , but after jab have taken all , u can bring Hepy to meet friend , that's a good idea to make Hepy wont be so timid . but then good to hear Hepy noe this command '' sit '' . congratz ya ^^ haha !!! anyway hope Hepy wont scare of pee/poo in front of u 1st and then u only start the housebreaking training with him , have to bear it with Hepy . start over again , and treat it as ur new puppy like i said , just look forward and patient lor , syrian ..i just wish u good luck in ur final and Hepy 's training then . As for the second puppy thingy, I'm considering a second MS or Silky Terrier BUT not now Btwn, Hepy is fully on Blackwood puppy now. Few days ago, i was still mixing it with NutriEdge (given by seller). I find blackwood superb!! Now his poops .. no odor at all wor - geng |
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Thx for all the wishes!!!! Hepy is so weird ar. Just now I saw him make turning in my room and then he whined. Then I take him to tray ask him shee shee in soft tone. He dun want wor. He looked at me then walked away. Then, i jz leave it lor. Then he go to living room, my bf put him on chair. After a while, he whined also. So, my bf put him on floor. He straight away peed on floor. Why he only choose to pee on naked floor ar?
And now baru I know why today whole day he didn't pee until just now. His water bottle "tersumbat" |
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May 10 2007, 08:45 AM
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syrian: the guy say have to wait for the doggies since it just breed on february, but he will call me once the pups are out
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May 10 2007, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 10 2007, 08:45 AM) syrian: the guy say have to wait for the doggies since it just breed on february, but he will call me once the pups are out Wah ... breed on februaries. So, now still haven't got any pups ar |
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May 10 2007, 08:52 AM
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i think, few months a time? jade is few months once
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May 10 2007, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 10 2007, 08:52 AM) i think, few months a time? jade is few months once ROFLMAO Oh ya .. I'm interested to noe the breeder than you found coz u said it's RM 600 including MKA. I bought Hepy for RM 550 (original RM 600) without MKA. |
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May 10 2007, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 10 2007, 08:45 AM) syrian: the guy say have to wait for the doggies since it just breed on february, but he will call me once the pups are out LILCATTY,If u got the breeder contact , mind to give me. perhpas next time will get one puppy from him/her beside Ms, what breed do he/she have ? thanks Added on May 10, 2007, 5:46 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 10 2007, 01:18 AM) Thx for all the wishes!!!! Hepy is so weird ar. Just now I saw him make turning in my room and then he whined. Then I take him to tray ask him shee shee in soft tone. He dun want wor. He looked at me then walked away. Then, i jz leave it lor. Then he go to living room, my bf put him on chair. After a while, he whined also. So, my bf put him on floor. He straight away peed on floor. Why he only choose to pee on naked floor ar? hahah the water bottle get stuck and Hepy cant drink the water a..? hahaha ..anyway, so now Hepy wont scare to pee/poo in front of u edi rite?And now baru I know why today whole day he didn't pee until just now. His water bottle "tersumbat" This post has been edited by Digitral: May 10 2007, 05:46 PM |
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Nope, he still dun dare to pee poo in front of me. But he dare to pee poo in front of my housemates except me lor.
Jz now I basic groom him myself .. hehehe .. but didn't shower him coz 2 days ago, showered liao. Jz cut his paw hair (ask my bf to hold his legs dun let him move). Then ask my bf to hold his tail up and I cut the hair around his *******. And I plucked his ear hair - a lot. Now his head no more smell ady .. hehe .. odorless |
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May 10 2007, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 10 2007, 07:48 PM) Nope, he still dun dare to pee poo in front of me. But he dare to pee poo in front of my housemates except me lor. hmmm...Hepy not dare to pee/poo in front of u yet a? nvm , time can prove it ya ^^ give Hepy some time. He can bear it wanJz now I basic groom him myself .. hehehe .. but didn't shower him coz 2 days ago, showered liao. Jz cut his paw hair (ask my bf to hold his legs dun let him move). Then ask my bf to hold his tail up and I cut the hair around his *******. And I plucked his ear hair - a lot. Now his head no more smell ady .. hehe .. odorless cool . u r trying to basic grooming ur Hepy . hehe well , my gf normally groom Lui Lui her own too although she got a friend is a groomer . u noe la , friend is friend but have to spend money too right haha ^^ but since she noe how 2 groom , then is good thing oso wurt. everything is learn from mistake ya right. hahahha, so Hepy ear very clean now lor . Good |
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The lats time i took hepy to pets family for basic grooming, they didn't really pluck the ear hair clean - inside still got hair one. Then when i requested for them to pluck cleaner, they told me "you need full grooming for that" - ish!! Btwn, can you post a picture of all teh scissors, etc used for full grooming? And how much did you buy ? And where can I find them? I want to learn full grooming myself.
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 10 2007, 08:53 PM) The lats time i took hepy to pets family for basic grooming, they didn't really pluck the ear hair clean - inside still got hair one. Then when i requested for them to pluck cleaner, they told me "you need full grooming for that" - ish!! Btwn, can you post a picture of all teh scissors, etc used for full grooming? And how much did you buy ? And where can I find them? I want to learn full grooming myself. the grooming set is not with me now .i still outside and will post up those grooming set's picture to u later on ='D Hahaha , but i bought the grooming set from the SEA PARK pet supplies SS2 there. well , inside there got 4 clippers and , if u want to full grooming ur Hepy have to buy the grooming set wan wor. and one grooming clipers will cost rm 200+ or u can buy normal human clippers too , if u want to save money . but then is good thing to learn by urself to groom ur own furkid mar ^^ but have to do research first lor . Hahahaha , ya , if u let people groom , of cuz they will rush and wont do it nicely wan lor , that's why i say after i bought my furkid , i didnt bring my furkid to groomer center oso , although my gf reli got a friend which is groomer , hahahaha , she rather learn it herself and groom her self. it actually can save lots of money wan lorThis post has been edited by Digitral: May 10 2007, 09:15 PM |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 10 2007, 09:14 PM) the grooming set is not with me now .i still outside and will post up those grooming set's picture to u later on ='D Hahaha , but i bought the grooming set from the SEA PARK pet supplies SS2 there. well , inside there got 4 clippers and , if u want to full grooming ur Hepy have to buy the grooming set wan wor. and one grooming clipers will cost rm 200+ or u can buy normal human clippers too , if u want to save money . but then is good thing to learn by urself to groom ur own furkid mar ^^ but have to do research first lor . Hahahaha , ya , if u let people groom , of cuz they will rush and wont do it nicely wan lor , that's why i say after i bought my furkid , i didnt bring my furkid to groomer center oso , although my gf reli got a friend which is groomer , hahahaha , she rather learn it herself and groom her self. it actually can save lots of money wan lor What is "clippers" ?? Sorry ar - I haf no ideas what are those thing Hepy dare to pee poo in front of me liao. He's gaining back his confidence. Jz started one. Few min ago, he peed on the floor. THen i clean up the mess and I bring him to the tray and let him smell. After he smell, i give him treats. Then few min later again, he went back into his cage to poo. I took away the poo and I gave him treats and sayang him |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 10 2007, 09:29 PM) What is "clippers" ?? Sorry ar - I haf no ideas what are those thing nono..dun get me wrong haha...i mean whole set is rm 200+ ..if everything 800+ is impossible la...i cant afford it too. everything is inside the grooming set edi..the clippers is include inside the set which is the electirc shavey thing u have just mention lor.i called it Trimmer haha.yea..my gf oso do like what those groomer do.if u dunno what is clipper ar..hmm later i will take those pic and show u k? or u google it haha . remember google is our friend will ya ='PPPHepy dare to pee poo in front of me liao. He's gaining back his confidence. Jz started one. Few min ago, he peed on the floor. THen i clean up the mess and I bring him to the tray and let him smell. After he smell, i give him treats. Then few min later again, he went back into his cage to poo. I took away the poo and I gave him treats and sayang him regarding pee/poo problem...if i let my furkid poo/pee at toilet . my furkid will pee at the door and poo next to the pee..oso.as i know some dog will not like to pee/poo at the same spot lor, but then now is bcuz Hepy is confruse mar. and i think ur room got lots of spot for it to poo/pee gua. that's why hepy confruse...so one thing can still amend is ...after confident is bck , then make it bcome one habit lor...poo/pee at the same place like it always do ,if it mistake pee/poo..like i said bring it to the play which is u desire lor. and it will remember it.if Hepy dare to pee/poo in front of u is good news mar.Yeah , although now Hepy will pee/poo at the place tat u dun wish but still no need to angry oso...just if u mention if hepy got the intention and turn and sniffing then bring it to the tray and let it smell there.If Hepy get used to it , then Hepy will almost near the target edi lor. Added on May 10, 2007, 10:08 pmsyrian , i forget to told u the electric clipper (i use with a #10 blade) to clip away the body hair.hmmmespiecially those legs furnish, body fringe and structure and BUT i tell u dun ever !cut the trademark eyebrows and beard should NOT be clipped away or else you wont end up with a schnauzer! my furkid's breeder told me before If i wanted to bring my dog to championship show, then i cannot clip anything. i have to plucking/ those fur with my hand which is stripping method. It is best to start plucking the coat at about 4mths onwards. Plucking away the body hair in the same pattern as electric clipping described above will encourage the growth of the wiry outer coat so necessary for show dogs. Hand plucking is recommended by my furkid's breeder lor, but i end up trim it with electric trimmer cuz if use plucking ..i feel will end up my lui lui will lots of hair Hahahaha. photo show rainnie with her Yumi schnauzer but then the trademark of eyebrown been trim..so not tat nice lor ^^ Added on May 10, 2007, 10:14 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 10 2007, 08:53 PM) The lats time i took hepy to pets family for basic grooming, they didn't really pluck the ear hair clean - inside still got hair one. Then when i requested for them to pluck cleaner, they told me "you need full grooming for that" - ish!! Btwn, can you post a picture of all teh scissors, etc used for full grooming? And how much did you buy ? And where can I find them? I want to learn full grooming myself. syrian this is the website u can see the grooming tips , have a look ya ^^http://amsc.us/grooming.html This post has been edited by Digitral: May 10 2007, 10:14 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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May 11 2007, 12:46 AM
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I noe wud is clippers liao .. I call it "blade" .. hahaha
Btwn, Hepy is so intelligent ar. He was playing like nut jz now. Then he suddenly ran out to living room and ran back in within few seconds. My housemate said he peed in the living room jor And the breeder than lilcatty said, i noe who liao. But I don't think RM 600 is with mka cert. I bought Hepy from HIM lor - wuahahahahaha. He said RM 600 but my bf nego with him for quite a while and he finally reduce RM 50 for us .. hehe. He told me Hepy's mommy is Malaysian Champion. But no doubt lar his dogs have very good temperament. U can tell it through Hepy - super guai dog!!! |
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May 11 2007, 10:06 AM
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lol talk about grooming, my dad once tried to groom for Jade "secretly" without letting me and my sis know..and that was really funny
lol syrian, i think maybe he improve his business d..lol he asked me whether i prefer with cert or not, so of course i said YES with the cert pls xD and he say no prob and he'll get one for the pups once the pups are out |
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May 11 2007, 10:12 AM
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I didn't know he is a "breeder". I thot he's only a normal dog lover like me but it so happened that his MS gave birth
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May 11 2007, 10:17 AM
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haha i think any puppies mum also will act like that barh
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 11 2007, 10:17 AM) haha i think any puppies mum also will act like that barh erm .. i'm not sure lor. Coz currently Hepy is not fully trained yet. He still cincai pee poo one. If you only have ONE male at home, he shouldn't be marking territory coz no one to rebut the territory from him. If you have MORE THAN ONE males at home, then yeah .. they will probably mark territory. If ONE MALE and ONE FEMALE, i'm not sure |
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oh..i see..then i think it's okay barh
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owh .. so, u're not putting Jade together with the new pup then. I'll probably get one more MS in the future .. hehehe. But wanna know if one female one male - the male will mark territory or not. Kenot get another male coz will certainy mark territory if two Males together.
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May 11 2007, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 11 2007, 10:06 AM) lol syrian, i think maybe he improve his business d..lol he asked me whether i prefer with cert or not, so of course i said YES with the cert pls xD and he say no prob and he'll get one for the pups once the pups are out Huh? I don't understand. The pups either come with cert or they don't. One cannot decide that they want a cert and then go get a cert when the pups are out. The breeder would have registered upon mating. |
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May 11 2007, 01:31 PM
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I noe wud is clippers liao .. I call it "blade" .. hahaha
regarding the grooming set , u can see the photo i attached.scissor those have to buy own self lor.ya. the website i give it to u , is just a refrence to groom a MS Btwn, Hepy is so intelligent ar. He was playing like nut jz now. Then he suddenly ran out to living room and ran back in within few seconds. My housemate said he peed in the living room jor hahahaha, Hepy so cute ah ^^ i can see u happy now cuz Hepy close to u now And the breeder than lilcatty said, i noe who liao. But I don't think RM 600 is with mka cert. I bought Hepy from HIM lor - wuahahahahaha. He said RM 600 but my bf nego with him for quite a while and he finally reduce RM 50 for us .. hehe. He told me Hepy's mommy is Malaysian Champion. But no doubt lar his dogs have very good temperament. U can tell it through Hepy - super guai dog!!! hahahha , reli a? i didnt know that lilcatty mention the breeder is the one who u bought the Ms from him/her wo ...lil catty give me the contact edi , i reli tot the breeder is with mka for a ms and rm 600 is reli cheap liow wo ... as promise syrian , here is the photo of grooming set ^^ Added on May 11, 2007, 1:34 pm QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 11 2007, 10:06 AM) lol talk about grooming, my dad once tried to groom for Jade "secretly" without letting me and my sis know..and that was really funny hahah cant imagine how it look like then ...if a ms without a moustache or beard lor...cuz is a trademark for Ms mar right...if u got the pic of jade which is cut short Jade moustache ...show us here ya ='X lol syrian, i think maybe he improve his business d..lol he asked me whether i prefer with cert or not, so of course i said YES with the cert pls xD and he say no prob and he'll get one for the pups once the pups are out Added on May 11, 2007, 1:38 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 10:12 AM) I didn't know he is a "breeder". I thot he's only a normal dog lover like me but it so happened that his MS gave birth Syrian beside Ms he got breed other dogs too ? hmmm...well well...i think is normal if mum's of hepy saw got ppl visit her own child and took it away so it wanted to protect it baby and will bcome aggressive jor geh .hehehe..so Syrian, Hepy is the last Ms tat u bought lor . u're lucky bcuz Hepy temper is so quiet This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 01:38 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(jtl @ May 11 2007, 11:56 AM) Huh? I don't understand. The pups either come with cert or they don't. One cannot decide that they want a cert and then go get a cert when the pups are out. The breeder would have registered upon mating. hmm how do they go through the whole system for the cert though? i'm not really sure about it but will see if the guy get me a cert, will make sure what kind of cert is that |
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May 11 2007, 03:41 PM
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digitral ...
If the oil for the electric shaver finishes, can get new bottle one from the petshop again?? Or can get from somewhere else? |
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May 11 2007, 03:42 PM
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I think tha breeder sounds fishy. Like what jtl said, the breeder has to be a registered member of MKA... and when the dogs mate, it must be registered(I think) but once the puppies born, must be recorded in MKA already. There is no such thing as getting a pup with or without cert if they do come with a MKA microchip and official registration.
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May 11 2007, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 03:41 PM) digitral ... i not very sure about tat . cuz i haven use it finish wor . well syrian , u can buy the grooming set from the SS2 sea park pet supplies...u noe where mar...it is same roll with those POH KONG retail and lots of jewelry shop there. u can ask them directly. and perhpas u can ask for diskaun too. the auntie is very friendly to me too , cuz i normally buy dog food from there.If the oil for the electric shaver finishes, can get new bottle one from the petshop again?? Or can get from somewhere else? This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 03:57 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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May 11 2007, 03:54 PM
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how much is blackwood puppy there ar ?
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May 11 2007, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 03:54 PM) how much is blackwood puppy there ar ? hmmm, hahahaha...the auntie will give me diskaun bcuz i always buy dog food there, and dog shampoo etc. cuz the auntie is friendly mar , too bad that they dun have member card for customer lor . hahahaha, actually i didn't ask her for diskaun to me , but since she saw me always buy dog food from her , she say diskaun for me lor...but then if u wan buy grooming set , u must go there, more electric shaver u can choose from there, and ask their opinion and tell them ur budget lor.Blackwood puppy food ar, i not sure wo...i think same with the pet buddy price gua . cuz i not buy blackwood d wor.i think u better buy this brand same like mine wan called kim laube. the price is around 200-1k..u say ur budget is rm 200 lor..mine also around rm 230+ , cant remember how much lor...but budget around like tat http://www.kimlaubeco.com/ petshop add : Sea Park Pet Supplies S/B 35 & 37, Jalan SS2/55, 47300 Petaling Jaya, Selangor. This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 04:12 PM |
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then you say inside got 4 clippers ... what sizes ?
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 04:18 PM) then you say inside got 4 clippers ... what sizes ? the size of the clipper is oredi prepare at the set.Good grooming site http://www.miniatureschnauzer.ca/grooming.htm extra small ,small , medium , large . the size of the number i not sure so i think is better to u to ask from the person when u purchase. my picture got show the sie of the clipper right , u can refer it..when my gf groom Lui Lui is use the extra small clipper lor. Added on May 11, 2007, 5:03 pmwell that's a good site to u . is a good refrence for u to groom hepy next time too. anyway thanks for sharing will ya Added on May 11, 2007, 5:11 pmfrom what i know is #10 blade will leave hair 1.6mm in length. Generally, the larger the number, the shorter will the hair be eg. #40 blade leaves hair 0.25mm whereas #3 blade leaves 0.5inches.i think it is better when u purchase and ask from the person , cuz 1st u will be more clear with what she say and 2nd u will understand more when u purchase. Ms's ear have to be more concentrate ya noe . well have to use different blade edi..some groomer will use blade 15 to clip the Ms's ear . so will short like those groomer always do. This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 05:11 PM |
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u use wud to clip the ear? Then can you make Lui Lui to stand up and take a close shot of her after your gf groomed her nxt time ??
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 05:30 PM) u use wud to clip the ear? Then can you make Lui Lui to stand up and take a close shot of her after your gf groomed her nxt time ?? hmm my gf groom not like those groomer . she groom like what Lui Lui's told her . but then actually my lui lui's breeder say is better to pluck it body hair by finger ... then no need to groom edi . but i found out is messy hahaha...u noe what...it depend on a ms how long it hair will grow. every month , my gf groom Lui Lui..but it depend lor..some ppl will groom their ms even 3-6 weeks in prior.that why u say my Lui Lui eyebrown is different with other Ms right. hahaha... Dunno I got post this aggressive look of Hepy b4 or not hahaha , Hepy look cute with the bee's clothe lor...suit Hepy ^^ the pic show my lui lui 1st day come my house /room ^^ This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 06:07 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Very cute lar!! Especially the white colour beard and eyebrow. Why my Hepy's colour is not so standard one ar? I show you a picture of him - u compare his body colour and his head colour. He doesn't look like pure Salt & Pepper to me. But his hair deep down on her body part is salt & pepper BUT upper part looks SILKY BLACK wor. Maybe after i groom one time .. then he will look like a standard salt & pepper
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May 11 2007, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 06:30 PM) Very cute lar!! Especially the white colour beard and eyebrow. Why my Hepy's colour is not so standard one ar? I show you a picture of him - u compare his body colour and his head colour. He doesn't look like pure Salt & Pepper to me. But his hair deep down on her body part is salt & pepper BUT upper part looks SILKY BLACK wor. Maybe after i groom one time .. then he will look like a standard salt & pepper it is bcuz Hepy is black and silver colour mar..i saw those owner own black and silver ms ...the colour of beard is black colour oso wan and my Lui Lui is salt and pepper colour. but then Hepy oso very cute mar..with this colour .. This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 09:55 PM |
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Hepy is black and silver mer?? The breeder told me he is salt and pepper wor. And his head and legs are indeed salt and pepper. Only his body is totally black in colour
My bf asked me to ask is the clipper and shaver set the same as those used in saloon?? U said ur breeder told you for better appearance, it is better to pull the hair by hand ma. I don't think I'm able to do that. That day when I pull his ear hair ... if deep inside his ears, he showed "no feel" at all. Then when I pull the hair at upper part a bit (too thick and messy), he barked and kept wanting to move. I think it's painful This post has been edited by Syrian: May 11 2007, 10:31 PM |
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 11 2007, 03:23 PM) hmm how do they go through the whole system for the cert though? i'm not really sure about it but will see if the guy get me a cert, will make sure what kind of cert is that When the dogs mate, the breeder would have to notify MKA within 28 days. When the puppies are whelped, the breeder will need to submit the Application To Register A Litter form within one calendar month from the birth of the litter. This form has be be accompanied with two photographs - one of the puppies alone and one with their mother.The microchips will then be issued to the breeders once the photographs are issued. The breeder would then need to ensure that the microchips are implanted by a certified veterinarian. The veterinarian would then need to certify that he had performed the implantation and this needs to be submitted back to MKA. The certificate would then be issued within a couple of months. When you bought your MS, did the breeder not scan the dog for you to show you that the dog had a microchip? Or is there a microchip number on your vaccination card? |
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May 11 2007, 10:46 PM
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There is a chance Hepy could be black and silver
http://www.boruzele.com/images/excel%20esaul%20(front)4.JPG That is a black and silver puppy. Here are some pics: http://jukeboxkennels.com/pics/rocket300b.jpg http://www.taras.ro/pictures/dollar.jpg Adult black and silver http://minischnauzers4u.com/images/newfront.gif Black and Silver puppy http://breederinfocenter.com/images2/20040...01_113338_3.jpg Salt and pepper puppy http://www.dogchannel.com/images/articles/...hnauzer_new.jpg salt and pepper adult http://breederinfocenter.com/images2/20040...01_124334_2.jpg black puppy http://www.dmjminiatureschnauzers.com/dmjm...uzers001004.jpg all 3 colours. Good pictures. Got show MS with tails. http://www.boruzele.com/archive.htm This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: May 11 2007, 10:49 PM |
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May 11 2007, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 10:21 PM) Hepy is black and silver mer?? The breeder told me he is salt and pepper wor. And his head and legs are indeed salt and pepper. Only his body is totally black in colour hahaha, i not very sure is bcuz i cant see so clear of Hepy's pic.Hmmm..if u saw Hepy's parent before , then the colour should be same like Hepy's parent right.My bf asked me to ask is the clipper and shaver set the same as those used in saloon?? U said ur breeder told you for better appearance, it is better to pull the hair by hand ma. I don't think I'm able to do that. That day when I pull his ear hair ... if deep inside his ears, he showed "no feel" at all. Then when I pull the hair at upper part a bit (too thick and messy), he barked and kept wanting to move. I think it's painful hmm? the electric shaver u mean ? will it be same as salon ar? well they still use electric shaver to trim of cuz but just different brand of electric shaver. but then i dunno what brand the use. yea . the 1st day i bought my furkid , my lui lui's breeder teach me to pluck my furkid upper body 's hair with finger . breeder told me before If i wanted to bring my dog to championship show, then i cannot clip anything. i have to plucking/ those fur with my hand which is stripping method. It is best to start plucking the coat at about 4mths onwards. Plucking away the body hair in the same pattern as electric clipping described above will encourage the growth of the wiry outer coat so necessary for show dogs. Added on May 11, 2007, 10:59 pmthx crazymouse_yyh, i reli the 1st time see schnauzer with tail ==. thx for sharing here. well Syrian been asking me : '' He doesn't look like pure Salt & Pepper to me. But his hair deep down on her body part is salt & pepper BUT upper part looks SILKY BLACK wor. Maybe after i groom one time .. then he will look like a standard salt & pepper . But then his moustache and eyebrow dun look standard colour too.'' hmmm..? since crazymouse_yyh say hepy is salt and pepper. then Syrian , u no need to worry so much This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 10:59 PM |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 11 2007, 10:53 PM) hahaha, i not very sure is bcuz i cant see so clear of Hepy's pic.Hmmm..if u saw Hepy's parent before , then the colour should be same like Hepy's parent right. I think Hepy is salt and pepper. He looks exactly like his daddy. I said he's salt & pepper because his head is 100% s&p colour liao and his body there, the inner part of the body hair is s&p too although the outer part is black colour. If I trim off his body hair, then he'll look like s&p colour hmm? the electric shaver u mean ? will it be same as salon ar? well they still use electric shaver to trim of cuz but just different brand of electric shaver. but then i dunno what brand the use. yea . the 1st day i bought my furkid , my lui lui's breeder teach me to pluck my furkid upper body 's hair with finger . breeder told me before If i wanted to bring my dog to championship show, then i cannot clip anything. i have to plucking/ those fur with my hand which is stripping method. It is best to start plucking the coat at about 4mths onwards. Plucking away the body hair in the same pattern as electric clipping described above will encourage the growth of the wiry outer coat so necessary for show dogs. But plucking the hair would be a torture to your furkid |
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May 11 2007, 11:08 PM
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Well, puppies very hard to tell lah.... let Hepy grow then he will tell you what colour he is heheheh.....
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 11 2007, 11:00 PM) I think Hepy is salt and pepper. He looks exactly like his daddy. I said he's salt & pepper because his head is 100% s&p colour liao and his body there, the inner part of the body hair is s&p too although the outer part is black colour. If I trim off his body hair, then he'll look like s&p colour hahaha ..maybe through the pic..here..i see quite black ...But plucking the hair would be a torture to your furkid but then if u have see Hepy's parent then when it grow up will look exactly like it father lor...unless they simply breed it la.Yalor..i feel colour not tat important la...To me , i just like any colour of Ms lor..include white oso LOL although my luilui's breeder told me tat white is not include the mka..but i feel white schnauzer is nice.err..plucking...? nono , cannot propersly pluck it, the meaning of me of plucking is very gentle which is u touch it hair , and it will drop it fur when u gentle pluck it..is not like what we used to pluck our furkid's ear.hahaha , i oso didnt wan to bring my furkid for show , if bring to show need to lots of free time and arrange time wisely but then i have to work..no chance to me...i think my furkid's breeder just suggest me la...he is not asking bring my furkid for show , he just suggest and can teach many way for groom . is a guideline to me mar ^^ learn more is better d for future use. hehe Added on May 11, 2007, 11:11 pm QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 11 2007, 11:08 PM) Well, puppies very hard to tell lah.... let Hepy grow then he will tell you what colour he is heheheh..... hahahahha !!! correct wo.well well , is true oso. This post has been edited by Digitral: May 11 2007, 11:51 PM |
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 11 2007, 11:08 PM) Well, puppies very hard to tell lah.... let Hepy grow then he will tell you what colour he is heheheh..... Hahahahaha .. yayaya!!! The true colour will reveal once I full groom it for the first time QUOTE(Digitral @ May 11 2007, 11:09 PM) hahaha ..maybe through the pic..here..i see quite black ... ROFLMAO!!! I misunderstood your meaning of plucking. I was like but then if u have see Hepy's parent then when it grow up will look exactly like it father lor...unless they simply breed it la.Yalor..i feel colour not tat important la...To me , i just like any colour of Ms lor..include white oso LOL although my luilui's breeder told me tat white is not include the mka..but i feel white schnauzer is nice.err..plucking...? nono , cannot propersly pluck it, the meaning of me of plucking is very gentle which is u touch it hair , and it will drop it fur when u gentle pluck it..is not like what we used to pluck our furkid's ear.hahaha , i oso didnt wan to bring my furkid for show , if bring to show need to lots of free time and arrange time wisely but then i have to work..no chance to me...i think my furkid's breeder just suggest me la...he is not asking bring my furkid for show , he just suggest and can teach many way for groom . is a guideline to me mar ^^ learn more is better d for future use. hehe Oh ya .. got a question to raise. I notice Hepy likes to go into the bathroom to poo (on floormat) and he always rush fast fast to the living room to pee .. then again rush fast fast back into my room to continue playing - wahlau |
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 12 2007, 02:45 AM) Hahahahaha .. yayaya!!! The true colour will reveal once I full groom it for the first time hahahha ...yea..if pluck it hair it quite messy lor cuz u noe Ms grow it hair quite fast wan ler...so it mean 1 month my gf have to groom it once lor.so end up my gf trim it with electric shaver la hahaha..To me ,if use electric shaver to groom will be tidy and nicer lor.ROFLMAO!!! I misunderstood your meaning of plucking. I was like Oh ya .. got a question to raise. I notice Hepy likes to go into the bathroom to poo (on floormat) and he always rush fast fast to the living room to pee .. then again rush fast fast back into my room to continue playing - wahlau hahah hepy so cute wan a..? hmm go bathroom poo..?u go teach Hepy go bathroom poo ar? he go there poo de? hahaha hepy reli cute , rush here and there pee/poo and back to ur side..reli very cute ='D ya..training need to take time d |
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QUOTE(jtl @ May 11 2007, 10:36 PM) When the dogs mate, the breeder would have to notify MKA within 28 days. When the puppies are whelped, the breeder will need to submit the Application To Register A Litter form within one calendar month from the birth of the litter. This form has be be accompanied with two photographs - one of the puppies alone and one with their mother. i see...now that sounds creepy too 0_0 hmm then i'll have to ask him regarding about that..thank u so much for the help! Jade's implanted with microchip for sure, had scan and even sometimes can touch from her skin *giggle*The microchips will then be issued to the breeders once the photographs are issued. The breeder would then need to ensure that the microchips are implanted by a certified veterinarian. The veterinarian would then need to certify that he had performed the implantation and this needs to be submitted back to MKA. The certificate would then be issued within a couple of months. When you bought your MS, did the breeder not scan the dog for you to show you that the dog had a microchip? Or is there a microchip number on your vaccination card? |
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 12 2007, 08:16 AM) hahahha ...yea..if pluck it hair it quite messy lor cuz u noe Ms grow it hair quite fast wan ler...so it mean 1 month my gf have to groom it once lor.so end up my gf trim it with electric shaver la hahaha..To me ,if use electric shaver to groom will be tidy and nicer lor. Nope .. I neva teach him to go to bathroom to pee poo one coz I sked later my housemate will complain. But so far, he always cincai pee and sometimes walk into bathroom to poo on the floormats. Oh yea .. i think he is used to pee poo behind the doors liao hahah hepy so cute wan a..? hmm go bathroom poo..?u go teach Hepy go bathroom poo ar? he go there poo de? hahaha hepy reli cute , rush here and there pee/poo and back to ur side..reli very cute ='D ya..training need to take time d |
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lol speaking of poo poo n pee..Jade always go back to the old places to pee n poo one *sigh* but she's consider well trained d, because if u bring her go out for poo walk, she wont poo at home for the whole day anymore, but if we busy or raining outside, cannot bring her out, den she 100% for sure will poo at home *cries* LOL
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Good lar that Jade is well-trained. At least if at home, she will go to toilet to pee poo - easier to clean up. Hepy cincai pee poo everywhere one
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LOL IF ONLY u bring her go out poopoo den she wont poo everywhere, but she normally go to her fav place too pee if u didnt bring her out too, like, staircase LOL, beside the computer table.. i also will @.@ when i stepped on the peepee T-T
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAH ... then meaning Jade is not fully trained when she's in the house lar - ROFLMAO!!!!
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 12 2007, 09:47 AM) Nope .. I neva teach him to go to bathroom to pee poo one coz I sked later my housemate will complain. But so far, he always cincai pee and sometimes walk into bathroom to poo on the floormats. Oh yea .. i think he is used to pee poo behind the doors liao hmmm ? i think Hepy poo at the backdoor reli bcome his habit jor lor ?hahhaha sounds funny when u say even Hepy oso cannot tahan it own poo poo smell hehe.cute Hepy ..ya..if u feel blackwood good to Hepy , then u stick this brand lor. |
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May 12 2007, 06:06 PM
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haha lol at least Jade's better than last time d xD last time she really simply poo everywhere..but now, she'll only pee/poo whenever u dont bring her for a walk everyday *giggle*
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May 12 2007, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 12 2007, 05:25 PM) hmmm ? i think Hepy poo at the backdoor reli bcome his habit jor lor ? Dunno him ler. If I put playpen to block the door, then he will jz pee poo there. Or nite time when I zzz, i close door ma .. then he will also go pee poo there. BUT when I din block my door with playpen, then he would rush fast fast to living room to pee and go toilet poo .. then rush fast fast back into my room to continue playing again. Ya, i'll stick to Blackwood for now since I find it good.hahhaha sounds funny when u say even Hepy oso cannot tahan it own poo poo smell hehe.cute Hepy ..ya..if u feel blackwood good to Hepy , then u stick this brand lor. Jz now I took Hepy out to park to jalan jalan. When I put him on the road, he terus poo there |
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May 12 2007, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 12 2007, 06:06 PM) haha lol at least Jade's better than last time d xD last time she really simply poo everywhere..but now, she'll only pee/poo whenever u dont bring her for a walk everyday *giggle* cuz Jade angry if owner no bring her go walk walk and do bussiness that's why she'll pee/poo at house hahaAdded on May 12, 2007, 10:26 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 12 2007, 07:26 PM) Dunno him ler. If I put playpen to block the door, then he will jz pee poo there. Or nite time when I zzz, i close door ma .. then he will also go pee poo there. BUT when I din block my door with playpen, then he would rush fast fast to living room to pee and go toilet poo .. then rush fast fast back into my room to continue playing again. Ya, i'll stick to Blackwood for now since I find it good. it seem Hepy reli like to pee/poo at the back door or either living room now hahaha.Jz now I took Hepy out to park to jalan jalan. When I put him on the road, he terus poo there yea, if u find it the dog food is good for ur furkid , then u can stick with it d . since Hepy after poo ...u say wont tat smelly after eat blackwood rite , haha ='D Haha , hepy is cute . it mean Hepy scare when go outside , but is normal d. cuz outside to Hepy now is very weird mar ...suddenly got wind and natural air from outside etc...so then he stress and poo ~hehehe. but then what u tell me is Hepy is so shy shy d...hahaha..will hide behind ur leg...Hepy wan Mummy to save him bcuz got a huge shihtzu want to make friend with him haha. This post has been edited by Digitral: May 12 2007, 10:26 PM |
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May 12 2007, 10:40 PM
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haha thats so true digitral *giggle* plus she superb like to go out or whenever we open the car door, she for sure will be the first one to jump up and dont wanna come down
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May 12 2007, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 12 2007, 10:40 PM) haha thats so true digitral *giggle* plus she superb like to go out or whenever we open the car door, she for sure will be the first one to jump up and dont wanna come down hahha really ? i bet jade love outside so much ! hahaha.reli cute la Jade. so how the breeder? regarding the Ms ? so u plan to buy from the breeder ya rite? |
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May 12 2007, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Digitral @ May 12 2007, 10:20 PM) it seem Hepy reli like to pee/poo at the back door or either living room now hahaha. Blackwood is not reducing the smell. It's like totally "no smell" yea, if u find it the dog food is good for ur furkid , then u can stick with it d . since Hepy after poo ...u say wont tat smelly after eat blackwood rite , haha ='D Haha , hepy is cute . it mean Hepy scare when go outside , but is normal d. cuz outside to Hepy now is very weird mar ...suddenly got wind and natural air from outside etc...so then he stress and poo ~hehehe. but then what u tell me is Hepy is so shy shy d...hahaha..will hide behind ur leg...Hepy wan Mummy to save him bcuz got a huge shihtzu want to make friend with him haha. QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 12 2007, 10:40 PM) haha thats so true digitral *giggle* plus she superb like to go out or whenever we open the car door, she for sure will be the first one to jump up and dont wanna come down Wah ... Hepy shows no expression when i put him in the car. He doesn't even bother to look out the window. I always carry him up and make him look outside but he show no interest and his legs jz onto my laps |
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May 12 2007, 11:58 PM
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digitral: yeaps! plan to buy from the breeder, about the cert, if he got the cert then it's the best lol, if dont have den nvm barh, but it's a lil disadvantage for us lol *sigh* lol and Jade's super outgoing lol, whenever we go and have badminton with friends every week, she for sure will follow LOL
and one thing, she's an alarm clock too. every morning when it's time to wake up, she'll jump up on the bed and lick/bite ur ears, or even stuffing her head into our blankets to wake us up. if we cover our head, she'll aim for the legs LOL! she'll bite ur toes and disturb u until u wake up |
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May 13 2007, 12:03 AM
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Very intelligent and cute toy poodle
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3N4vM5OJ0-g&mode=related&search= Funny shihtzu that sneezes when asked to http://youtube.com/watch?v=7cJ-10gSrBg This post has been edited by Syrian: May 13 2007, 12:07 AM |
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May 13 2007, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 12 2007, 10:49 PM) Blackwood is not reducing the smell. It's like totally "no smell" hehehehhe , hepy love to go outside too lor? my furkid too ='DWah ... Hepy shows no expression when i put him in the car. He doesn't even bother to look out the window. I always carry him up and make him look outside but he show no interest and his legs jz onto my laps when she noe my gf wanted to help her wear clothers.she straight away wan her mummy to huge her and go out .hahahaha , thanks for sharing the video of the toy poddle, the video of the toy poodle is so cute ='X Added on May 13, 2007, 7:10 pm QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 12 2007, 11:58 PM) digitral: yeaps! plan to buy from the breeder, about the cert, if he got the cert then it's the best lol, if dont have den nvm barh, but it's a lil disadvantage for us lol *sigh* lol and Jade's super outgoing lol, whenever we go and have badminton with friends every week, she for sure will follow LOL hahaha ic .. so u plan to buy the breeder next time . when u buy , remember show us picture of ur new ms will ya.and one thing, she's an alarm clock too. every morning when it's time to wake up, she'll jump up on the bed and lick/bite ur ears, or even stuffing her head into our blankets to wake us up. if we cover our head, she'll aim for the legs LOL! she'll bite ur toes and disturb u until u wake up hahha Jade so notty one a? when u sleep , she just like a alarm clock to u.and try those method to wake u wake LOL . hehe Notty jade This post has been edited by Digitral: May 13 2007, 07:10 PM |
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May 14 2007, 01:28 AM
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Wah .. Hepy is super hyper now. Kept rushing in and out from my room to living room. Jz like going berserk
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May 14 2007, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(jtl @ May 11 2007, 10:36 PM) When the dogs mate, the breeder would have to notify MKA within 28 days. When the puppies are whelped, the breeder will need to submit the Application To Register A Litter form within one calendar month from the birth of the litter. This form has be be accompanied with two photographs - one of the puppies alone and one with their mother. means when they em hem i hv 2 contact da MKA?The microchips will then be issued to the breeders once the photographs are issued. The breeder would then need to ensure that the microchips are implanted by a certified veterinarian. The veterinarian would then need to certify that he had performed the implantation and this needs to be submitted back to MKA. The certificate would then be issued within a couple of months. When you bought your MS, did the breeder not scan the dog for you to show you that the dog had a microchip? Or is there a microchip number on your vaccination card? wat muz i do if i wanna breed jack n xun? |
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May 14 2007, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(Syrian @ May 14 2007, 01:28 AM) Wah .. Hepy is super hyper now. Kept rushing in and out from my room to living room. Jz like going berserk hahhahaha . Hepy so happy can go here and there. yo , thanks for the shih tzu video oso, can sneeze wan cool ='D pic : when lui lui at friendster cafe Attached thumbnail(s) |
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May 14 2007, 09:17 AM
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digitral: hehe sure sure! cant wait for the new pup lerh..hope the guy will breed it asap *giggle*
eh eh..now the cafe/restaurant allow u to bring pets in ar? because i thought there's a new rule that if any animals is brought in into the restaurant/cafe they'll fine if caught? except ikano *giggle* |
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May 14 2007, 09:58 AM
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Digitral, Lui Lui is so cute!!!!!!!! I think in the future, i'm most probably going to get my second MS again - mostly black&silver ..
Lilcatty: Most cafe/restaurants do not allow pets but there are exceptions to a few cafe which allow you to bring in pets such as Starbucks at Ikano, Friendster Cafe, etc. |
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May 14 2007, 11:02 AM
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Always best to check with the restaurant first before bringing your dog there. Starbucks at Ikano requires you to sit outdoors, same with Friendster cafe.
Anyway, there is a black MS pup, seems to be the only 1 I think... show quality and it does look really stunning but the price will set you back 1 step heheheh... Rm2500 but I think it is worth it since show quality and the sire is a brazilian champion heheheh.... if I got space, I want all the colours of MS, it would be so cute. |
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May 14 2007, 11:19 AM
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me too..
schnauzers look like mini horses in da house.. they r active.. hun u mean da schnauzer in pet safari? written there sire braz champ ar? |
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May 14 2007, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ May 14 2007, 02:02 AM) First and foremost, you need to be a member. Then you need to follow the steps, I mentioned earlier However, if you say xun is very small sized and jack is much bigger, then I suggest you don't mate coz she may not be able to deliver the babies if they are too big. |
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May 14 2007, 11:47 AM
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May 14 2007, 12:32 PM
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god..
den if bb too big ma hv 2 do cesaerean? wakkaka.. dunno whether black or not ler.. sire balck doesnt mean bb black.. maby salt pepper.. i like! |
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May 14 2007, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(jaunty_niel @ May 14 2007, 12:32 PM) god.. The thing is, breeder with show quality pups will never sell at pet shops.... so most likely not the same breeder. If the breeder got other colours, why he only advertise black? There are 6 black puppies altogether for sale.den if bb too big ma hv 2 do cesaerean? wakkaka.. dunno whether black or not ler.. sire balck doesnt mean bb black.. maby salt pepper.. i like! Also, stay with Jtl's advice for she got more experience. Do not breed small sized shih tzus coz it is very risky. I think everyone forgot about the dangers of small sized dogs that are not standard size... small females can have hard deliveries, cesarean should never be the answer as it is very risky with the sedatives and it can cause some female dogs to reject their puppies. Also, smaller sized dogs that do not follow the normal size tends to get more genetic sickness such as heart failure, kidney or liver failure... or something else. This was the words given to my friend from a Vet.... if don't listen then dunno lah.... it is not a funny thing to laugh about. |
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May 14 2007, 01:36 PM
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oh i see..where's friendster cafe btw? i wish i can bring my pup there next time
and i agree with syrian lol..digitral's luilui is cute! |
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May 14 2007, 01:54 PM
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eh.. did they deleted the guide on taking care puppies ??
im going to get a puppy soon and i cant find that thread -.-"" |
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May 14 2007, 01:58 PM
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It never gets deleted, you have to search for it coz there are too many threads to be listed. That is why there is a search button for.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...5864&hl=puppies |
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May 14 2007, 02:03 PM
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i search a few times d , maybe im blur gua.. just woke up also..
thanks ya.. |
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May 14 2007, 02:36 PM
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ya wanna noe where's friendster cafe oso..
wish 2 go there.. aiyo den hv 2 buy another doggy d.. zzz.. |
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May 14 2007, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(lilcatty @ May 14 2007, 09:17 AM) digitral: hehe sure sure! cant wait for the new pup lerh..hope the guy will breed it asap *giggle* hi there ,eh eh..now the cafe/restaurant allow u to bring pets in ar? because i thought there's a new rule that if any animals is brought in into the restaurant/cafe they'll fine if caught? except ikano *giggle* well , some cafe can allow u to bring ur furkid i mean friendly dog place la. for walks/hikes/jogs: 1) Bukit Gasing 2) Taman Tun Dr. Ismail jogging trail 3) OneUtama Central Park on Sundays mornings cafes/restaurants: 1) Starbucks at Ikano 2) Starbucks at Plaza Damas 3) Coffee Bean at Mont Kiara 4) Friendster Cafe at Damansara Perdana 5) Bulldog Cafe at Sri Hartamas 6) Rahsia Restaurant behind Empire Tower in KL 7) Starbucks at Jalan Telawi 3, Bangsar 8) KTZ SS2 - never tried this one, but the lady said that many ppl have brought their doggies in their handbags there before. 9) Cafe Lil Bally SS15 miscelleanous: 1) COREZONE SS2 - a place where they sell hiking & tracking equipment 2) Lo Hong Ka SS2 - the girls there love my girls 3) CD Station SS2 - CD peddler with a shop next to Secret Recipe has a dog of his own 4) Pet Safari Ikano Power Centre - OF COURSE! 5) Pet Family Taman Megah - OF COURSE! lil_catty , hope this can help la...but crazymouse_yyh was right , although those r dog friendly place , but friendster cafe , startbuck have to sit outside oso it means alfresco area. well island cafe @ ss2 can sit indoor lah Added on May 14, 2007, 3:44 pm QUOTE(Syrian @ May 14 2007, 09:58 AM) Digitral, Lui Lui is so cute!!!!!!!! I think in the future, i'm most probably going to get my second MS again - mostly black&silver .. hahahha thanks syrian for praise my furkid Lilcatty: Most cafe/restaurants do not allow pets but there are exceptions to a few cafe which allow you to bring in pets such as Starbucks at Ikano, Friendster Cafe, etc. heheh ya , if u fully train ur little cute Hepy , i mean done ur training liow , then get a second pup will be easier lor. u noe what , my gf uncle got a 4 dog . shih tzu , doberman , min pinischer ( adopt by SPCA ) and one is Fox hound. hahah u noe what the shih tzu is 16+ yrs old . and the shih tzu teach those dogs wan . mean decipline them . so my gf uncle although have 4 dog indoor la , but all very obedient wan . that's why the 1st dog have to fully trained , then easier mah ='D hehehe u know u noe what to do lar Added on May 14, 2007, 3:46 pm QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 14 2007, 11:02 AM) Always best to check with the restaurant first before bringing your dog there. Starbucks at Ikano requires you to sit outdoors, same with Friendster cafe. same here.. all Ms colour is nice..like tat day u post the website to show us the colour of Ms ! all oso nice lor...='D i know Hun like Ms too ! Anyway, there is a black MS pup, seems to be the only 1 I think... show quality and it does look really stunning but the price will set you back 1 step heheheh... Rm2500 but I think it is worth it since show quality and the sire is a brazilian champion heheheh.... if I got space, I want all the colours of MS, it would be so cute. Added on May 14, 2007, 3:49 pm QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 14 2007, 12:50 PM) The thing is, breeder with show quality pups will never sell at pet shops.... so most likely not the same breeder. If the breeder got other colours, why he only advertise black? There are 6 black puppies altogether for sale. well crazymouse_yyh was right . Also, stay with Jtl's advice for she got more experience. Do not breed small sized shih tzus coz it is very risky. I think everyone forgot about the dangers of small sized dogs that are not standard size... small females can have hard deliveries, cesarean should never be the answer as it is very risky with the sedatives and it can cause some female dogs to reject their puppies. Also, smaller sized dogs that do not follow the normal size tends to get more genetic sickness such as heart failure, kidney or liver failure... or something else. This was the words given to my friend from a Vet.... if don't listen then dunno lah.... it is not a funny thing to laugh about. remember i think i got post the mini size like the chi hua hua size of schnauzer story . and u noe the owner of the schnauzer dun dare to let it dog to breed , because the owner told me that the vet not allow his dog to breed is very risky ...will cause to death ler...so dangerous.and the mini size schnauzer 's parents all die edi == This post has been edited by Digitral: May 14 2007, 03:50 PM |
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