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post Aug 9 2016, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(RitzyMazzy @ Aug 9 2016, 02:51 PM)
judging from utube i dont think witsel is good enough for the team. tired of thinking of replacement im sure we can sort out best solution. im more excited to discover what Pjaca and Pjanic can do for us.  drool.gif
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ya i agree. he is at most as good as Asamoah or Hernanes.. will not raise any level. Lets see what the mgmt will do.. So far they are very quiet. Not sure what they are up to laugh.gif
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post Aug 9 2016, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Aug 9 2016, 02:21 PM)
Yo rahman. how are you  smile.gif

Zaidi no need to go troll them la. We juve fans dont do that type of thing. We just enjoy our new players let them enjoy theirs. It is not as if no Pogba we suddenly have the lousiet team in europe and drop out of top 5 European team status  laugh.gif

It is important we respect our opponents coz this season we good next season we might not. This season they lousy next season they might not. Things are ever changing. No point go troll or argue over things  smile.gif
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hehehe ... no lah. don't troll. just defend ourselves. ManU certainly had seen better days and these few days are their bad patch. Just hope that Pogba does not disappoint. He just could not carry the whole team, just like what happen in 2015/16. Juve was awful during first 10 games until Dybala.

By the way, why there is no news on Cuadrado? He seems back to Chelsea but there is no solid news.
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Well, if you ask me in a more of a neutral POV, it's definitely will be a huge bumpy road ahead of him from the moment he signed the contract. BPL is having a faster tempo in general. And he was well protected by other midfielders in Juve. Basically we can say the midfield was built around him which allowed him to roam free and not much stress to retreat from a counter attack after loss of possession.

With that price tag slapped at him, no doubt he will be judged from the second he steps on the pitch
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post Aug 9 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(zaidi @ Aug 9 2016, 05:27 PM)
hehehe ... no lah. don't troll. just defend ourselves. ManU certainly had seen better days and these few days are their bad patch. Just hope that Pogba does not disappoint. He just could not carry the whole team, just like what happen in 2015/16. Juve was awful during first 10 games until Dybala.

By the way, why there is no news on Cuadrado? He seems back to Chelsea but there is no solid news.
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no news on cuadrado. conte seems intend to keep him and we hardly play wingers so i think whether he comes back or not is still fine

so far no news on any midfield replacement for pogba. since we have pjanic to cover the loss of pogba's creativity, we need another DM to cover for marchisio's injury. i think luis gustavo or matic would be good as they are excellent pure DM like Kante
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QUOTE(cyapd @ Aug 9 2016, 05:44 PM)
Well, if you ask me in a more of a neutral POV, it's definitely will be a huge bumpy road ahead of him from the moment he signed the contract. BPL is having a faster tempo in general. And he was well protected by other midfielders in Juve. Basically we can say the midfield was built around him which allowed him to roam free and not much stress to retreat from a counter attack after loss of possession.

With that price tag slapped at him, no doubt he will be judged from the second he steps on the pitch
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to be honest i wouldnt care anymore if he becomes a flop or a top.. he aint the only superstar whom played for us before. the only drawback of his departure in terms of sporting side of things is his energy and defensive side of the midfield as he can defend as well as attack. Attack wise we already have Pjanic for creativity and passing

dream signing will still be isco. too bad he said he do not wish to move to any club be it from BPL or other leagues. else:

GK Buffon
DL: Alex Sandro
DC: Bonucci
DC: Chiellini
DR: Dani Alves
MC: Pjanic
MC: MArchisio
MC: Khedira
AMC: Isco
FC: Dybala
FC: Higuain

Woah! laugh.gif thumbup.gif

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post Aug 9 2016, 10:11 PM

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all mids that available only suits epl level to be honest.. in other words not good enuf for Juve. out of topic - did pogba know the fact that ballon d'or winner are mostly from serie a back then and now la liga?? the fuk hes doing there??

i always had this special attention to Mario Lemina. his level of discipline bow to every instructions from allegri just show how good the lad is. c'mon allegri, we dont want pogback, we just want Lemina to be 10x times better than pogback. cool2.gif


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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Aug 9 2016, 03:26 PM)
ya i agree. he is at most as good as Asamoah or Hernanes.. will not raise any level. Lets see what the mgmt will do.. So far they are very quiet. Not sure what they are up to  laugh.gif
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i hate to say this but..seriously witsel are total crap. he may doing good at somewhere u know... epl for example.
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QUOTE(cyapd @ Aug 9 2016, 05:44 PM)
Well, if you ask me in a more of a neutral POV, it's definitely will be a huge bumpy road ahead of him from the moment he signed the contract. BPL is having a faster tempo in general. And he was well protected by other midfielders in Juve. Basically we can say the midfield was built around him which allowed him to roam free and not much stress to retreat from a counter attack after loss of possession.

With that price tag slapped at him, no doubt he will be judged from the second he steps on the pitch
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they have morinho maa... morinho sure how play pogba. u know what, pogba arrive means the game changer man. at least that is what their supporters been saying. with the help of felani, martial, rojo, harera, zlatan.. hes the game changer. what a line of midfielders man.

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QUOTE(RitzyMazzy @ Aug 9 2016, 10:22 PM)
they have morinho maa... morinho sure how play pogba. u know what, pogba arrive means the game changer man. at least that is what their supporters been saying. with the help of felani, martial, rojo, harera, zlatan.. hes the game changer. what a line of midfielders man.

dont laugh  wink.gif
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pogba can add something special to man u no doubt. man u is stronger no doubt. but they are not the only top club nor buying pogba from us will mean we will collapse and is the next dortmund / atletico. younger fans thought we have a history of a peanut / dortmund / atletico. i dont blame them as most of them watch football starting from the 2005 2006...

Fan boys think that juve is a crap shit team because we happen to play in a poor league. well, that is not true, in truth we just happen to be one of the biggest clubs in the world unfortunately playing in an expired league (Best league in the world from the 80s to 99) laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Aug 9 2016, 10:50 PM)
Fan boys think that juve is a crap shit team because we happen to play in a poor league. well, that is not true, in truth we just happen to be one of the biggest clubs in the world unfortunately playing in an expired league (Best league in the world from the 80s to 99) laugh.gif
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Best players in the world used to come from Serie A in the 90s-2000s. That time the Milan clubs are top class. But feel sad that now Italian clubs facing financial problems and unable to compete at the top

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QUOTE(estcin @ Aug 9 2016, 11:57 PM)
Best players in the world used to come from Serie A in the 90s-2000s. That time the Milan clubs are top class. But feel sad that now Italian clubs facing financial problems and unable to compete at the top
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I blame the Italian lack of vision and their bureaucracy. Back then we were the top league, and instead expanding and having the vision to go global , they just stuck to being domestic. It took Juventus a while to get a proper English website and for them to make trips to Asia. Even owning stadiums , we are the first. The rest of Serie A mostly are hopeless except for Udinese and Sasuolo, but these are small time players.
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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Aug 9 2016, 10:50 PM)
pogba can add something special to man u no doubt. man u is stronger no doubt. but they are not the only top club nor buying pogba from us will mean we will collapse and is the next dortmund / atletico. younger fans thought we have a history of a peanut / dortmund / atletico. i dont blame them as most of them watch football starting from the 2005 2006...

Fan boys think that juve is a crap shit team because we happen to play in a poor league. well, that is not true, in truth we just happen to be one of the biggest clubs in the world unfortunately playing in an expired league (Best league in the world from the 80s to 99) laugh.gif
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lol. Big clubs playing in an expired league = best line ever laugh.gif

i'm sure if Juve are playing in, let say BPL, we would probably be one of the favorite for the title..afterall, we did BEAT their defending champion both home & away in UCL last year biggrin.gif
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post Aug 10 2016, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Aug 10 2016, 12:33 AM)
I blame the Italian lack of vision and their bureaucracy.  Back then we were the top league, and instead expanding and having the vision to go global , they just stuck to being domestic. It took Juventus a while to get a proper English website and for them to make trips to Asia. Even owning stadiums , we are the first. The rest of Serie A mostly are hopeless except for Udinese and Sasuolo, but these are small time players.
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i agree fully with you on this. Back the in day rich italian clubs were owned by rich owners..but the financial meltdown in 99 caused alot of them to go bankrupt. Had italian clubs not been 100% sugar daddy but had strong marketing and commercial planning Serie A also will not come to this state. Nowadays I see Roma, Napoli signing players whom are earning Annual Wage of 1 or 2mil is really sad. Old run down stadiums half full. I think this is one of the reasons why Pogba left too... he is too big and famous to be playing away to Capri or Chievo in shit stadiums

Juve is the only one trying to model their finances, marketing after the British. too late it seems to catch up with the bpl clubs but certainly ahead of our Italian counterparts. An improved Roma, Napoli, Milan clubs and over league will benefit Juve too. At least it will not be considered a run down league bullied by a rich Juve laugh.gif

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Aug 10 2016, 09:39 AM)
lol. Big clubs playing in an expired league = best line ever  laugh.gif

i'm sure if Juve are playing in, let say BPL, we would probably be one of the favorite for the title..afterall, we did BEAT their defending champion both home & away in UCL last year biggrin.gif
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yeah mah. we are top dog in a run down league.. hence the reason why i say we need to win the CL soon or else we will always be seen as a run down league bully and not recognized as truly back among the elite like we once were before the 2006 scandal cool2.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Aug 10 2016, 11:42 AM)
Juve is the only one trying to model their finances, marketing after the British. too late it seems to catch up with the bpl clubs but certainly ahead of our Italian counterparts. An improved Roma, Napoli, Milan clubs and over league will benefit Juve too. At least it will not be considered a run down league bullied by a rich Juve  laugh.gif
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Our board benefited from the study trip to Arsenal's stadium and implement it back in Turin. Now even the real estate around the stadium is rising. Yeah, hope the other clubs improve as well and bring up the league. Seeing Roma without shirt sponsor is sad

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QUOTE(estcin @ Aug 10 2016, 11:48 AM)
Our board  benefited from the study trip to Arsenal's stadium and implement it back in Turin. Now even the real estate around the stadium is rising. Yeah, hope the other clubs improve as well and bring up the league. Seeing Roma without shirt sponsor is sad
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Indeed smile.gif

By the way, this is a good read from football italia. This site is quite good and is not a biased BPL backed website:


Only fools mock Juventus

Paul Pogba is gone, Gonzalo Higuain looked fat in his debut, but history should have learned that it’s foolish to mock Juventus, writes Vincent Van Genechten.

What a busy summer it has been for Juventus. The 2015 one was quite pressing, with the departures of Andrea Pirlo, Carlos Tevez and Arturo Vidal, and the consequent incoming transfers of Paulo Dybala, Sami Khedira, Mario Mandzukic, Alex Sandro and Simone Zaza.

But how about paying a club record €90m for Gonzalo Higuain, while also securing Miralem Pjanic, Dani Alves, Marko Pjaca, Mehdi Benatia, and Mario Lemina, and then selling Paul Pogba for a world record €110m fee to Manchester United? A player they got for free four years ago, making the Frenchman’s transfer by far the most profitable one in history.

The Old Lady’s comeback from the ashes of Calciopoli and Serie B is nothing but remarkable. Not even the biggest Inter fans are able to deny that about their most fierce rivals. Despite the fact that the Nerazzurri, Napoli and even Roma have enjoyed solid summer transfer campaigns, Juve remain the clear-cut favourites to win next season’s Scudetto.

Still, it looks like people haven’t learned that only fools mock the Bianconeri. It was evident at how Juve crawled back from Serie B to winning five consecutive Serie A titles, with a record sixth one in the making. The Turin club was burned to the ground, mocked and laughed at by rivals, who hoped Juve would be gone for an extensive time.

But the Old Lady weren’t and here they are again, wheeling and dealing on the transfer market like no other Italian club is able to do. But many have short memories and the mocking has once again started.

Just look at how social media exploded when a picture of a not so slim Higuain in his Juve debut against West Ham appeared. The Argentine has already been dubbed a transfer bust, ignoring the fact that he had been training for just more than a week after enjoying a well deserved vacation. Can’t a man have a little break once in a while?

In addition, the 28-year-old striker has never been a physical monster, relying more on his brains than his abdominals to score goals. Higuain undoubtedly will struggle at first at Juventus, trying to find his place in a new team and a new lineup. But mocking Juventus for spending big on him before his first official game? Too fast.


On to selling Pogba. Losing the French midfielder will hurt Juventus, who’ll miss his creativity, running, athleticism, and ball-winning abilities. But the transfer was months in the making and pretty much inevitable. Resisting that amount of money was impossible for player and club. So everything makes sense in the end.

But again, some laughter appeared about Juve “losing their best player,” giving up a lead in the Scudetto race, and Pogba trolling for months before eventually leaving the club. Foolish, as the Bianconeri have covered most of Pogba’s qualities and are only in search of a midfielder to step in and replace the Frenchman’s defensive attributes. In terms of creativity, Pjanic is a much better fit for the side anyway awaiting Claudio Marchisio’s return from injury.

Don’t be surprised if Juventus announce that extra transfer pretty soon, because this club is prepared for anything. Unlike most other Italian top clubs.

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Aug 10 2016, 06:04 PM)
Indeed  smile.gif

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Nice written... And true also... They mock wrong team...

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QUOTE(Jusstatic @ Aug 10 2016, 06:04 PM)
Indeed  smile.gif

Just look at how social media exploded when a picture of a not so slim Higuain in his Juve debut against West Ham appeared. The Argentine has already been dubbed a transfer bust, ignoring the fact that he had been training for just more than a week after enjoying a well deserved vacation. Can’t a man have a little break once in a while?

In addition, the 28-year-old striker has never been a physical monster, relying more on his brains than his abdominals to score goals. Higuain undoubtedly will struggle at first at Juventus, trying to find his place in a new team and a new lineup. But mocking Juventus for spending big on him before his first official game? Too fast.


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great piece of writing

but imma pick this specific line. Yeah, sure, they'd enjoy mocking the hell out of Higuain now. I think they haven't learn their lesson yet. U can mock Juve all u want, we rarely replied
in the media, but we do it on the pitch instead

i remember reading some article saying that 'Higuain is a "sensitive" piece of soul'. He didn't really like to be made fun of and sometimes got the fiery explosion in him(remember him
losing temper against Udinese last season?). I say, well, they should keep up making fun of that man, keep riling him up...as this will only ignite that fire more & more to prove all
the haters and naysayers wrong flex.gif
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I was thinking maybe it's a good thing if we sign Diawara? This 19yo got some potential.. been linked before but rumors too lazy too get serious.

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