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TMnet confirms they are throttling P2P, CEO staff admits to P2P throttling
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TSnwk
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Nov 7 2006, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(TC_Boy @ Nov 7 2006, 02:36 PM) In other words, a 512 kbps connection is shared among 10 users so when 9 of them are not using only then you'll get full 512 kbps speed.  that is the standard bullshit story the moogles at cs tells all of us. we all know this is not true because the nut at ceo office admitted to me they are purposely throttling p2p traffic nationwide and their bullshit excuse for doing that is because they are "running out of bandwidth"!
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gouhayashi
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Nov 7 2006, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE *********************** Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. ***********************
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you once again for your e-mail to TM Net. Firstly, we would like to apologise for the late reply.
In response to your complaint (slow connection during night time), we would like to clarify that the tmnet streamyx service provided is based on best effort basis. This is stipulated in the terms and conditions that is stated in the Streamyx application form, our brochures and also on our website (www.tm.net.my).
A best effort service means that we are unable to offer any throughput guarantees or a 100% of the subscribed speed. However, at TM Net, we consistently strive to do our best to provide our customers with the fastest connection within the allowance of their set-up or individual conditions. The technology used for our Streamyx is based on ADSL running through copper wires, which does not allow us to guarantee the throughput speed.
According to the Mandatory Standards for Quality of Service as determined by the Malaysian Communication and Multimedia Commission i.e. at least 70% of the subscribed speed should be provided to subscribers. We would like to assure you that TM Net is doing our best to comply within the 'best-effort' benchmark of 70 % throughput.
We wish to inform you that actual connection speeds are also dependant on various factors. The different parts of the Internet network do contribute to your overall online experience, such as your computer?s hardware specifications and performance, modem, internal telephone cabling, local loop, Point-of-Presence (PoP), Internet traffic, international connectivity, etc.
The connection also varies according to the distance and condition of the telephone wires connecting your house to the nearest TM exchange. The speed will encounter a deterioration over the distance between your computer to the TM Exchange. Another common factor is the Internet traffic; dependant on which websites or Internet services you are using, which may be routed locally or overseas. When too many people are trying to connect to the websites at the same time, it will congest the network that affects the connection speed going through.
With regards to slow P2P download, please be informed that P2P traffic is actually choking up local broadband lines with 20% of users utilising 80% of the total bandwidth. As the number of local broadband subscribers increases, more users are expected to use P2P applications such as Kazaa and Bit Torrent to transfer files online.
Such applications are often left on all day so they use much more bandwidth compared to users who merely use the Internet to surf or chat. Other countries with high broadband penetration also faced similar problems because "broadband users have a tendency to abuse bandwidth."
We are not against our customers who are using P2P. However, it is an unfair situation which needs to be addressed, as we cannot upgrade our infrastructure (merely) for the benefit of the minority. Therefore, we have some kind of rate limit control on that link. The main objective of putting the rate limit control on some of our links is to reduce the severity of congestion so that the quality of service can still be maintained for all subscribers.
Please be assured that as we increase our broadband subscribers we are also upgrading the network capacity based on the allocation of bandwidth per subscriber and best practices of Internet Service Providers.
We hope that the above explanation clarifies on the highlighted issue. We also wish to thank you for your continued patience and understanding as well as extend our appreciation for your continuous support of TM Net?s products and services.
Should you require further assistance or would like to submit any enquiry/feedback, kindly visit www.tm.net.my and click "Need Help? Contact our Customer Service".
We hope we have addressed your concern and look forward to serve you better.
Regards, Narati Samuri Customer Care Support, TM Net Sdn. Bhd.
www.tm.net.my what do u think the reply above as i write to CS about slow connection n no exceed 10k speed for p2p client after the nationwide down time...
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ddddashhhh
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Nov 7 2006, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 7 2006, 02:42 PM) that is the standard bullshit story the moogles at cs tells all of us. we all know this is not true because the nut at ceo office admitted to me they are purposely throttling p2p traffic nationwide and their bullshit excuse for doing that is because they are "running out of bandwidth"! If this is happening, we would like to seek TMNET to share our bills payment among the shared personal. if 9/10 user is not using, u pay RM88, if 10/10 user is using, u pay RM8.80. get a life, this won't happen to us
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TSnwk
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Nov 7 2006, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(gouhayashi @ Nov 7 2006, 03:05 PM) what do u think the reply above as i write to CS about slow connection n no exceed 10k speed for p2p client after the nationwide down time... this is another standard bullshit letter the moogles at cs sends to all of us. but in this version, they actually admit to throttling p2p traffic and they ask you to bear with it until they "buy" more bandwidth. the part where they claim to "buy" more bandwidth is vague and we don't know if they are just saying that to make us happy just to stop us from complaining to them again. This post has been edited by nwk: Nov 7 2006, 03:18 PM
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ddddashhhh
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Nov 7 2006, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 7 2006, 03:16 PM) this is another standard bullshit letter the moogles at cs sends to all of us. but in this version, they actually admit to throttling p2p traffic and they ask you to bear with it until they "buy" more bandwidth. the part where they claim to "buy" more bandwidth is vague and we don't know if they are just saying that to make us happy just to stop us from complaining to them again. i don think they will buy anymore bandwith as this soon, they don even state the exact date about it.
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moskau12
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Nov 7 2006, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 6 2006, 04:02 PM) he is saying that he is looking down on us for using BT to sell pirate dvds. he thinks we are all pirates here. i think he is just another stupid defender of the tm@#$nut universe. Naaaaaaaa... He is not tmnet agent... HE DON'T LIKE PIRACYYYYYYY... U MUST UNDERSTAND THAT.. becoz he the one who always buy the original DVD at Sungei Wang huahuahuhauha... "Original DVD with kepala Kaki Wayang depan Panggung"
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TSnwk
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Nov 7 2006, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(moskau12 @ Nov 7 2006, 03:49 PM) Naaaaaaaa... He is not tmnet agent... HE DON'T LIKE PIRACYYYYYYY... U MUST UNDERSTAND THAT.. becoz he the one who always buy the original DVD at Sungei Wang huahuahuhauha... "Original DVD with kepala Kaki Wayang depan Panggung" i did not say he is a tm*nut agent.
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blindbox
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Nov 7 2006, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(gouhayashi @ Nov 7 2006, 03:05 PM) what do u think the reply above as i write to CS about slow connection n no exceed 10k speed for p2p client after the nationwide down time... Hey, about that letter. WE GOT THE RIGHTS FOR THAT BANDWIDTH! They promised us with that package, hence they should give it to us. Hell its only 30 gigabyte a month, compared with other countries, who offered a hell lot more. I keep seeing someone (can't remember who) saying like, 20% diners taking 80% portion. Wth, I paid the chef to give me that much, and he's saying to give way to other diners also. They're the one who should give us more food, because we paid for it. This is what we call unfairness, making us pay more for less food. Who cares about analogy, basically, they are not giving what we paid for. This post has been edited by blindbox: Nov 7 2006, 04:31 PM
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epul
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Nov 7 2006, 04:37 PM
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tmnet shouldnt use unlimited word in their advertisement and inside the package
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TSnwk
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Nov 7 2006, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Nov 7 2006, 04:30 PM) Hey, about that letter. WE GOT THE RIGHTS FOR THAT BANDWIDTH! They promised us with that package, hence they should give it to us. Hell its only 30 gigabyte a month, compared with other countries, who offered a hell lot more. I keep seeing someone (can't remember who) saying like, 20% diners taking 80% portion. Wth, I paid the chef to give me that much, and he's saying to give way to other diners also. They're the one who should give us more food, because we paid for it. This is what we call unfairness, making us pay more for less food. Who cares about analogy, basically, they are not giving what we paid for. that is what i have been saying since day one, when this "illegal" throttling began. we are not getting what we paid for. tm*nut didn't say we couldn't utilize our connections to the max. tm*nut didn't say we couldn't download using p2p. tm*nut didn't say a lot of things but kept on saying about "unlimited access" & "fast download" in their advertisements and brochures. so in other words, tm*nut broadband packages are a scam and they cheated us of our hard earned money!
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epul
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Nov 7 2006, 04:40 PM
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it is really an organize scam from tmnet and get support from government
This post has been edited by epul: Nov 7 2006, 04:40 PM
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ddddashhhh
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Nov 7 2006, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Nov 7 2006, 04:30 PM) Hey, about that letter. WE GOT THE RIGHTS FOR THAT BANDWIDTH! They promised us with that package, hence they should give it to us. Hell its only 30 gigabyte a month, compared with other countries, who offered a hell lot more. I keep seeing someone (can't remember who) saying like, 20% diners taking 80% portion. Wth, I paid the chef to give me that much, and he's saying to give way to other diners also. They're the one who should give us more food, because we paid for it. This is what we call unfairness, making us pay more for less food. Who cares about analogy, basically, they are not giving what we paid for. If u are so furious about it, one thing i can suggest, take 1 day off from here, go to the nearest booth of tmnet, take all the streamyx brochures, shredder it piece by piece and throw it into the dustbin. well if the staffs ask u y u do that, just simply tell them those brochure's word is lying with a Exclamation Mark '!'
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mcat84
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Nov 7 2006, 05:36 PM
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good .....shape it baby shape it.........until everyone terminate their account....
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ddddashhhh
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Nov 7 2006, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(mcat84 @ Nov 7 2006, 05:36 PM) good .....shape it baby shape it.........until everyone terminate their account.... u may be the first to do so.....beware of the con of tmnet which is if u terminate now and ur account not last for 2 years, u need to pay all the bills amount for the remain of the months.
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blindbox
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Nov 7 2006, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(ddddashhhh @ Nov 7 2006, 05:27 PM) If u are so furious about it, one thing i can suggest, take 1 day off from here, go to the nearest booth of tmnet, take all the streamyx brochures, shredder it piece by piece and throw it into the dustbin. well if the staffs ask u y u do that, just simply tell them those brochure's word is lying with a Exclamation Mark '!' Sorry, that I show furiosity hehe, though in my furiosity, I said what we have rights for. Furthermore, I can't believe the creater of the 80% food taken by 20% diner supported tmnet. He hasn't saw what we have the rights for did he? Better post at tech support instead to increase my post counts hahahah j/k.
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TSnwk
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Nov 8 2006, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(nwk @ Nov 7 2006, 10:13 AM) something funny happened to my bt last night. my vpn speed suddenly drop to zero after running for about 20 minutes. so i switched it off and i let the torrent continue running. To my surprise, my speed suddenly flew to 150K+ unthrottled! I wonder if michael lai told those nuts to unthrottle me or what? will check my speed again tonight after work. my vpn speed dropped down to zero again tonight. not once but twice! WTF?! if i didn't know better, i swear those tm*nut monkeys are screwing around with vpn connections. those filthy buggers are asking for a law suit to be thrown at them since they have the balls to screw around with vpn connections. after my speed drop to zero, i switched off vpn and got a speed boost of 100K+ like yesterday but the speed is not consistent. it will go up and down. despite this, my line is still throttled and I can't get fast speeds if i don't use vpn. I also have difficulty connecting to trackers in the evenings if I don't use vpn. It makes me suspect that tm*nut is not satisfied with throttling your bt speed, they also want to block you from connecting to the trackers so you can't download anything! michael lai, can you try dying once and BURN IN HELL!!!!!!! edit: now my vpn has died more then 5 times already and it seems to be happening all the time. bloody hell......... This post has been edited by nwk: Nov 8 2006, 01:52 AM
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cajun2de
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Nov 8 2006, 02:38 AM
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they increase bandwidth n they will add more users , thus it's gonna be the same senario all over as the current senario
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TM.net
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Nov 8 2006, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(epul @ Nov 7 2006, 04:40 PM) it is really an organize scam from tmnet and get support from government Come on la... I think tmnet would make a hell lot more profit if not because of the government. Most GLC not only TM have an obligation to support governments projects. Broadband is one of them. WHy do you think other ISP are not that eager to offer broadband nationwide? Offering bb is not cheap and not that profitable. Especially to people who complaint a lot...
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tirumisu
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Nov 8 2006, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE(TM.net @ Nov 8 2006, 07:42 AM) Most GLC not only TM have an obligation to support governments projects. Broadband is one of them. WHy do you think other ISP are not that eager to offer broadband nationwide? Offering bb is not cheap and not that profitable. Especially to people who complaint a lot... It's also an obligation for the government to cater for their citizen needs or else they can "tar pau". It's even more of a waste to allow leechers like you to get away with unthrottled speeds.Consider yourself a useless trash who only knows how to suck up to other people a$$ all the time.Son, your future looks dim.
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epul
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Nov 8 2006, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(TM.net @ Nov 8 2006, 07:42 AM) Come on la... I think tmnet would make a hell lot more profit if not because of the government. Most GLC not only TM have an obligation to support governments projects. Broadband is one of them. WHy do you think other ISP are not that eager to offer broadband nationwide? Offering bb is not cheap and not that profitable. Especially to people who complaint a lot... If not backing by government, tmnet will not dare throttle customer account. cos the money come from customer. due to goverment backing, they dont mine throttling customer account cos the government will suport them in term of money in case no profit being generate. if tmnet is really independant businessman, tmnet should not doing p2p throttle becos customer always right.  For sure now u are working at tmnet. cos all yr post were posted during office hour. This post has been edited by epul: Nov 8 2006, 08:22 AM
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