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 TMnet confirms they are throttling P2P, CEO staff admits to P2P throttling

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post Oct 27 2006, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 27 2006, 03:29 PM)
i tried to call tmnuts today to ask bout this slow download speed...but cannot reach...do u all have the same problem too?
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my friend, we are all throttled to high heaven. why do you think there is thread pinned at the top dedicated to this stupid throttling? Most of us have complained to tmnut and all we get are stupid answers of denials. so we complain to cfm instead. i suggest you start reading this thread from page 1 to get the full story.
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post Oct 28 2006, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(yangxi @ Oct 28 2006, 12:18 AM)
Anybody want cancel their account ?   if more user terminate streamyx , Sure TMNUT will takut !.~

I pay 2 account (RM176) /month , yet get only 10-30kb/s speed !!  vmad.gif
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if everyone cancel their account, then we will play into tmnut's hands because they will give the bandwidth to new subscribers. I suggest you cancel one account and then complain like hell to tmnut everyday. if that's not enough, call cfm and keep on complaining to them until tmnut decide to surrender to all of us who call cfm. if you are still really feeling pissed after all that complaints submit your grudge to hell girl at www.animax-asia website against michael lai!!! LOL! I know one guy who actually did that and you can read his post there! LOL!!!! laugh.gif

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post Oct 28 2006, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 28 2006, 12:33 AM)
Love to...but they couldn't be reach at the moment....i submit my complaint 2 cfm which include an attachment of my bittorent d/l speed saying my download speed is way 2 slow even for a 512k package...1-2kbps only sweat.gif
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If there is no reply to your complaint, I suggest you call CFM's toll free number on Monday. Then you can tell them all about tmnut and their throttling.
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post Oct 28 2006, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Oct 28 2006, 01:14 AM)
i think if can, we highlight this throttling to the media...that would be an impact for tmnet,

here is a last time news on why or the reason tmnet do p2p throttling

My Webpage
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That is very old news and most of us here know that already. It's tmnut cheap excuse for throttling us and we all know that is crap! As for highlighting this to the media, some guys here actually sent out letters to the newspapers but I don't know if the newspapers have printed their letters or not.
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post Oct 28 2006, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(kemikelx @ Oct 28 2006, 04:48 PM)
TMNET CEO Email cannot masuk: (as of 4.40pm)

Reason:
Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

Recipient address: ceo@ims-ms-daemon
Original address: ceo@tm.net.my
Reason: Over quota
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that stupid poor excuse of an ceo probably decided not to bother reading all our emails! what kind of ceo is this? if the ceo is acting like this, no wonder all the tmnut staff is also acting like baboon! maybe it is time we all complain to MCMC since this stupid ceo don't know how to read emails.

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post Oct 29 2006, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(gouhayashi @ Oct 28 2006, 10:28 PM)
I wonder how long do we need to suffer or forever...???
Did the complaints really work? If so, didn't even see any respone from nuts...
Even we know the truth now, they just get excuse n deny from us about the THROTTLE topic...
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if you complain to tmnut, of course you won't get any response from them. they will just tell you that you are not being throttled blah blah blah. they will only start to tell you the truth when you complain to consumer organizations like cfm.

as for how long we are gonna suffer, tmnut says by the end of this year. of course anything tmnut says can't be taken seriously or trusted. they could be saying that to make us happy. that's why i keep telling you guys to complain, complain and complain. don't give up because if you do, michael lai and the nut will be the ones laughing all the way to the bank.

btw the whole world knows about the nut's unfair throttling now. our friend soulxtc has told our story in his website at www.zeropaid.com.
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post Oct 29 2006, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(lindows @ Oct 28 2006, 11:29 PM)
Hmmmm i still can connect to other countries but in a very slow pace...
any idea of bypassing it ??  sad.gif
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the only way you can bypass it is by using vpn or ssh services. there are a lot of these services in the net. the only downside is they are not free and you have to use a credit card to pay for the services. but at least you bypass this stupid tmnut throttling.

there is a "free" way to bypass it. you can use proxies to bypass but those servers don't last for long and you will have to keep on changing servers all the time.

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post Oct 29 2006, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Oct 28 2006, 11:44 PM)
I heard that the torrent throttling have been lifted in some areas. I have friends in Ampang and Bangsar downloading beyond 100kb...and I'm still at 10kb sweat.gif
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the throttling has not been lifted. it is only temporary because tmnut is fine tuning their shaping hardware. your friends will probably be throttled sooner or later.
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post Oct 29 2006, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(IntegraTypeR @ Oct 28 2006, 11:21 PM)
I remembered checking Utorrent few weeks ago when TMnet started throttling our connections. Those people think we don't know how to use their Protocol Encrytion or don't know how to port-forward correctly.  ohmy.gif
I am not sure if they are aware of our full scale of our situation, currently.
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actually those guys at utorrent forum said that tmnut was shaping based on p2p packet patterns or something like that. they also said they can't do anything unless they rewrite the source code of the bittorrent client to change the way p2p data is sent on the net.

they are aware of our situation. there is an ISP called Rogers in Canada and that ISP is doing the exact same kind of throttling like tmnut. when the situation in the states and canada become as bad as us over here, then they will probably rewrite their BT clients to bypass this kind of shaping. when that happens we will get our speeds back and tmnut can kiss their brand new shaping hardware goodbye!!!
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post Oct 29 2006, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 29 2006, 05:44 PM)
We need Jigoku Shoujo...

Michael Lai.... would you try dying for once?
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actually there is someone who posted a grudge at hell girl's website at www.animax-asia.com. When I read it I couldn't stop laughing for 10 minutes! LOL!!! rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 29 2006, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Oct 29 2006, 07:13 PM)
Guys, I am on 1Mb package.

I only just realize this throtling thing cause I haven't  really check up on LYN. No wonder I don't get any dl speed like before and I thought it was seeds problem.

So let me tell you what I am going to do when I can take time off to go to TM.

I am going to DOWNGRADE to 512Kb and I don't care whether TM allow or not.
Once I serve them the note personally at the help desk , I will pay the 512 rate.

A while back ,I held back payment of about rm250( i forgot the exact amount) for a year because they charge me extra rm15.
In between they sent me some s* email and I respond back.
Finally they agree the mistake and I pay them the correct amount.

On the legal side, it state " best effort " on the contract but throthling
definitely is not on the  "best effort" side.Its on purpose

So stop whining ,etc and downgrade

( And to think I took so much effort to upgrade less than a year ago and its a long story. Basically I have to discontinue my rm66/512 and apply again to get the 77/1Mb. They won't allow straight upgrade cause
I am old customer.Stupid a**)
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instead of downgrading first, why don't you try to complain to cfm? Many of us here have already complained to cfm to put pressure on tmnut. so i think you should do the same. if after that you are still not happy, then go to their office, thump your fist at their desk and downgrade!!!!
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post Oct 30 2006, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 29 2006, 09:39 PM)
Maybe you could just pay "half" payment at every month , just to keep your payment "live" , you know what I mean.
complaints ...etc only wasting your time. let by gone be by gone ...
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complaints wasting time? you think you pay them half your bill they are going to feel threatened? They will just laugh at your face and cut off your connection for paying late all the time. If you have any better ideas then that one, let's hear it because that is the lamest thing you can do to tmnut.

we are not going to let bygones be bygones because they are cheating all of us by not giving us the speed we paid for! it is guys like you who think complaints are a waste of time that encourages corrupt companies like tmnut to keep on cheating consumers of their hard earned money. vmad.gif
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post Oct 30 2006, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 30 2006, 07:06 AM)
please show me a GOOD FEEDBACK RESULT  due to your GOOD complaints.
I was making complaints to TM, since the first day I applied streamyx. After so many years of "hardwork", I don't think complaints could make any changes. TM still cheat on us.

payment will still pay on time but just halfly paid. TM will not cut your line for this reason...can tell TMnut that you are not sure how much to pay ( since billl adjustment have not been done yet)
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you want proof that complaints give results? did you read page 1 or not? there is my proof. i complained until they admit to my face they are throttling p2p. what did you do? give up? stop payment? did tmnut suddenly break down and cry because you only pay them half? they are just going to use that as an excuse to cut your connection and sue you if they think you are being funny with them.
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post Oct 30 2006, 11:46 AM

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i found this post on www.dslreports.com and this should clear up the issue on why some guys are not throttled at the moment.

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TMNet DOES NOT block BitTorrent ports, instead it put all the packets to LOW PRIORITY, and at times the packet can drop (if the delay too long) thus causing you getting low speed on BT.

It uses hardware based Traffic Shapper to do this, and intelligent enough to know whether it is P2P packets or streamyx packets. Note that it only put low priority on P2P packets, and HTTP & Streaming still get normal priority.

Why some ppl experiencing this while others dont?
That is because they have not implement this plantwide (due to cost factor). Maybe some of you get impacted by this, irregardless of 218 or 219 or 60 class IP.

For those who shared the same gateway, but some facing slowdown on BT while others dont, this is most probably users which has FULL SPEED is peering with other TM NET users. That is the reason you still get full speed.

Note all the information ABOVE is not provided by TM Net. It is based on feedback/report that I've read/heard/discuss
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post Oct 30 2006, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 30 2006, 10:08 AM)
what ...?? that proof can bring any chances to our BT throttled ?? until now TM still sucking customers' money and never officially admit this.
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can you post in proper english please? this just proves how ignorant you are because you don't understand what i was saying to you in my post.
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post Oct 30 2006, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(epul @ Oct 30 2006, 12:12 PM)
How long tmnut will keep this bt shaping?
tmtnut should give official writing to msian that they dont support bt and put in their advertisement.
very pity to new user if their intention subcribing streamyx just to bt.
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tmnut never admitted to p2p throttling officially and will only admit when guys like me complain to them hard enough. i also pity the new users who subscribe to tmnut for BT only to find out that they are throttled to high heaven. as for when it will end, tmnut never gave any official date or guarantee
us that they will stop throttling once they get more bandwidth. only god knows if they have any intention to keep their promises.
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post Oct 30 2006, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Oct 30 2006, 12:21 PM)
I am not sure whether is only my place facing a streamyx network problem?

My streamyx keep on disconnected for the entire last week! Is this anything to do with they try to throttling our P2P?

Just like yesterday, almost the entire day I was unable to connect to internet, only able to connect for few minutes then disconnect for few hours, and came back few minutes and then disconnected again!!!

I live in Cheras, and one of my friend staying same area as me also have this problem... They are cheatting our money!!!

Anyone have the same experience or anyone know what is happening?
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tmnut traffic shaping hardware could be interfering with your connection. call tmnut CS and tell them to send a technician to your house to check the problem. there is a thread here that has many users with the same problem as you.
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post Oct 31 2006, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(deadwiller @ Oct 30 2006, 08:45 PM)
very nice of you to do that....thanks thumbup.gif
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you are welcome. i am just standing up for my consumer rights which happens to be also your consumer rights too.
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post Oct 31 2006, 09:34 AM

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michael lai only know how to talk kok like lim keng yeak. the ceo don't know about broadband and the minister don't know anything about internet. when you put these 2 imbeciles together, the internet industry in malaysia goes down the toilet and malaysia will become like iran where the baboon leader bans broadband.
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post Oct 31 2006, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(scarred @ Oct 31 2006, 09:38 AM)
your statements on IRAN leader sounds too harsh and misplaced, and moderator, u guys here?
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what? the truth is too harsh for you to bear?

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