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post Dec 27 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 17 2018, 11:19 AM)
i am using denon avr x2000 with 95 rms per 8 ohm channel only bro..  blush.gif
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we are same biggrin.gif me x2000 user also

QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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heavvy cabinet 20kg++ each side.
the efficiency is fine to use with small & medium size amp. last time im able run loudly with marantz mini series class d about 50w per channel. im not sure was it room or speaker age itself, the bass is less satisfying compared to newer gen floorstand speaker
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post Dec 27 2018, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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i am looking at the review that i capture from hifi-review.com

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A nominal 8 Ohms impedance is claimed, though the measured curve suggests 6 Ohms as more realistic, but in any event this is not a particularly awkward load and should present no difficult y to any ha lf-respecting amplifier rated at between 25 and 150 Watts (per channel into 8 Ohms), which is what the literature suggests as compatible. Sensitivity is good at 90dB/Watt/metre.


25 to 150 watts.. a normal avr should be enough if its not running at 7.1. Sensitivity is 90dB. From paper its not a monster that is difficult to be pushed. Looks pretty ok
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post Dec 27 2018, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 10:48 AM)
we are same biggrin.gif me x2000 user also
heavvy cabinet 20kg++ each side.
the efficiency is fine to use with small & medium size amp. last time im able run loudly with marantz mini series class d about 50w per channel. im not sure was it room or speaker age itself, the bass is less satisfying compared to newer gen floorstand speaker
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but no atmos + no preout.. a bit like last gen avr d now.. even it support for 4k
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post Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 27 2018, 11:03 AM)
but no atmos + no preout..  a bit like last gen avr d now.. even it support for 4k
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atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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post Dec 27 2018, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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tak payah boleh buat reflection a
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there are two types of atmos setup:
1) install ceiling speakers
2) change to reflection speaker or buy reflection speaker to put on top of the ur current front

i had tried reflection speaker last weekend.. the result pretty good.. but pricing of cos not going to be cheap as well..

the cheapest way is to buy a atmos enabled speaker and put on top of ur existing front for 5.1.2 or 7.1.2 and rear (if you want to) for 5.1.4 or 7.1.4

but sad case x2000 doesnt support atmos sweat.gif


front height susah sikit too close to front channel.. hard to differentiate if front standing or front height
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post Dec 27 2018, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 10:48 AM)
we are same biggrin.gif me x2000 user also
heavvy cabinet 20kg++ each side.
the efficiency is fine to use with small & medium size amp. last time im able run loudly with marantz mini series class d about 50w per channel. im not sure was it room or speaker age itself, the bass is less satisfying compared to newer gen floorstand speaker
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The 753 you carry back from UK last time?
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post Dec 27 2018, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 27 2018, 11:02 AM)
i am looking at the review that i capture from hifi-review.com
25 to 150 watts.. a normal avr should be enough if its not running at 7.1. Sensitivity is 90dB. From paper its not a monster that is difficult to be pushed. Looks pretty ok
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On paper looks ok and efficiency seems high, but many said no bass, bad sound when paired with small sized amp.
BTW, you bought Mission floor stander already? What model you bought?
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post Dec 27 2018, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 12:05 PM)
The 753 you carry back from UK last time?
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not from Uk but my friend house. haha he was the one studied there
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 12:07 PM)
On paper looks ok and efficiency seems high, but many said no bass, bad sound when paired with small sized amp.
BTW, you bought Mission floor stander already? What model you bought?
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not sure if can do bi-amp if bi-amp might improve if the speaker got potential.

plan change my friend.. after i read some review and comment here.. decided not to go with the entry level of mission.. the budget i concerntrate to change the center first.. improve vocal clarify over movies.. slowly change only i will think of changing front tower.
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post Dec 27 2018, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 27 2018, 01:22 PM)
not sure if can do bi-amp if bi-amp might improve if the speaker got potential.

plan change my friend.. after i read some review and comment here.. decided not to go with the entry level of mission.. the budget i concerntrate to change the center first.. improve vocal clarify over movies.. slowly change only i will think of changing front tower.
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Yeah, aim those LX QX SX series.
Actually mission brand itself is entry level, higher end are those KEF, Dynaudio, Wilson Benesch..
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post Dec 27 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 01:30 PM)
Yeah, aim those LX QX SX series.
Actually mission brand itself is entry level, higher end are those KEF, Dynaudio, Wilson Benesch..
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yea man but mission top end model worthy.. but the price is not cheap also.. if KEF, Dynaudio, B&W, Klipsch those lagi exp... i m thinking to get SVS for my center.. apologize if this get out of topic from the main forum here.. blush.gif
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post Dec 27 2018, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 27 2018, 01:22 PM)
not sure if can do bi-amp if bi-amp might improve if the speaker got potential.

plan change my friend.. after i read some review and comment here.. decided not to go with the entry level of mission.. the budget i concerntrate to change the center first.. improve vocal clarify over movies.. slowly change only i will think of changing front tower.
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x2000 can biamp. im using for front channel brows.gif
overall sound wont increase bass, just cleaner mid and high (without affected by bass signal) like real instrument suppose to.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 03:09 PM)
x2000 can biamp. im using for front channel brows.gif
overall sound wont increase bass, just cleaner mid and high (without affected by bass signal) like real instrument suppose to.
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cool man.. none of my speakers allow biamp.. so its a region left unexplored yet.. brows.gif
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post Dec 27 2018, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 03:09 PM)
x2000 can biamp. im using for front channel brows.gif
overall sound wont increase bass, just cleaner mid and high (without affected by bass signal) like real instrument suppose to.
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Want play Bass I Love You can use subwoofer right? Haha.
It is the precious mids and highs important for front channel?
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post Dec 27 2018, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 04:09 PM)
Want play Bass I Love You can use subwoofer right? Haha.
It is the precious mids and highs important for front channel?
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depend the contents u playing the most. since i use avr, the bass are being crossover to subwoofer ady.
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post Dec 28 2018, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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the 753s are not bass monsters despite them being floorstanders ..
turn the volume up a little and u get pretty satisfying tight low ends ... not the earthquake u would expect la
currently powered by a 80w/channel yamaha av amp .. more than sufficient volume to disturb the neighbours

for those more ground moving stuff i have a 10 inch sub biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2018, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 01:54 AM)
the 753s are not bass monsters despite them being floorstanders ..
turn the volume up a little and u get pretty satisfying tight low ends ... not the earthquake u would expect la
currently powered by a 80w/channel yamaha av amp .. more than sufficient volume to disturb the neighbours

for those more ground moving stuff i have a 10 inch sub  biggrin.gif
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how many speaker u connecting to it? Mind to share your cross over for the front?
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 28 2018, 08:32 AM)
how many speaker u connecting to it? Mind to share your cross over for the front?
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dont understand what u meant by crossover

5 speakers currently powered by the amp .. 2 x 753 ... 2 x small bookshelf ... center is a small one too
sub is an active 300w 10 inch
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post Dec 28 2018, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:09 AM)
dont understand what u meant by crossover

5 speakers currently powered by the amp .. 2 x 753 ... 2 x small bookshelf ... center is a small one too
sub is an active 300w 10 inch
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i think he meant the crossover frequency set for your sub? like 80Hz 100Hz etc.
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post Dec 28 2018, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:09 AM)
dont understand what u meant by crossover

5 speakers currently powered by the amp .. 2 x 753 ... 2 x small bookshelf ... center is a small one too
sub is an active 300w 10 inch
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not sure if you have a GUI similar like below.

The setting of 80hz for center is the cross over setting for center.

I m more familiar to audessey but i believe yahama should have something similar for your ypao

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