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kevinlim001
post Dec 13 2018, 03:23 PM

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anyone using the entry level of vx series? would like to know how it fares
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post Dec 13 2018, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 13 2018, 05:09 PM)
seems good for value especially the floorstand type. but i only listened to old mission
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thanks bro.. its wierd to see mission launching these entry level. the worse part is the website doesnt even have the detail for speaker spec

QUOTE(gunplakk @ Dec 13 2018, 05:44 PM)
in my opinion the VX are not very good... but depending on what you plan to do with them... if u are using them for home theater... then it should be ok.... coz u dont need a good level clarity. but if you are doing 2 channel audio and trying to play hi-res flac files... i would recommend looking else where. the older stuff are better. u are probably better off looking for similar budgets from 2nd hand market.
Are you looking at the Vx offers from CMY? its a good price for new speakers, that much i can say.
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i use for both home theater and music on pure direct mode. Yea u r right i am looking from CMY. Looks like a bargain to me but...

QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 13 2018, 10:00 PM)
To be honest, not so good, you can compare my mission VX2 and small Denon Mission, but my phone recording isn't so good...
Mission VX2


Denon Mission


The VX2 definitely missed out audiophile detail when I play Stacey Kent: So Nice, the background sounds very thin and not as good as some YouTube ppl's older mission
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i dont really trust review over recording bro... but you did a great side by side comparison.. its pretty obvious has higher open high.. thumbup.gif thanks for the effort for sharing bro.. appreciate it
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 14 2018, 12:05 AM)
You looking for bookshelf speaker or floor standing speaker? I found Singapore Carousell there selling those LX-2 which got praised by what hifi and few others, the after conversion rate seems another extra 100 bucks more than local VX2 only. Maybe a trip to Singapore for better speaker? That would be diehard Mission Fan's mission. Haha
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i m actually looking for an upgrade over my old chap ayam 5.1 speakers. singapore is pretty close but i scare custom cari pasal

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post Dec 14 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 14 2018, 08:50 AM)
Yeah, 5.1 will be hard coz too many speakers. If just 2 bookshelf maybe can try, remove the box carry the speakers only and keep the manual...
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Yea bro actually 2 floor stand n a centre first my current floor standing I can use for my rear bookshelf substitution
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post Dec 16 2018, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 15 2018, 01:07 AM)
Just found I previously bookmarked a Thailand review page
https://gmlive.com/รีวิว-ชุï¿...onAudioVXSeries

Google translate as the savoir
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khob khun krab
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post Dec 17 2018, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 16 2018, 07:23 PM)
BTW, saw CMY has Mission MX3, this one got What Hi-Fi 5 star review, no consider that instead?
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yea bro let me check out that option too.. hopefully i can get more detail out of these speakers compare to my chap ayam brand brows.gif
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post Dec 17 2018, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2018, 11:06 AM)
What amplifier you using? Floor standing speaker requirement on amp power quite high imo...
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i am using denon avr x2000 with 95 rms per 8 ohm channel only bro.. blush.gif
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post Dec 17 2018, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2018, 12:41 PM)
What Hi-Fi 5 star product yo.
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its a 4 years unit d bro.. old d.. still can play 5.1 but no atmos or X

i more to HT ya sorry.. mega_shok.gif
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post Dec 27 2018, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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i am looking at the review that i capture from hifi-review.com

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A nominal 8 Ohms impedance is claimed, though the measured curve suggests 6 Ohms as more realistic, but in any event this is not a particularly awkward load and should present no difficult y to any ha lf-respecting amplifier rated at between 25 and 150 Watts (per channel into 8 Ohms), which is what the literature suggests as compatible. Sensitivity is good at 90dB/Watt/metre.


25 to 150 watts.. a normal avr should be enough if its not running at 7.1. Sensitivity is 90dB. From paper its not a monster that is difficult to be pushed. Looks pretty ok
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post Dec 27 2018, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 10:48 AM)
we are same biggrin.gif me x2000 user also
heavvy cabinet 20kg++ each side.
the efficiency is fine to use with small & medium size amp. last time im able run loudly with marantz mini series class d about 50w per channel. im not sure was it room or speaker age itself, the bass is less satisfying compared to newer gen floorstand speaker
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but no atmos + no preout.. a bit like last gen avr d now.. even it support for 4k
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post Dec 27 2018, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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tak payah boleh buat reflection a
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there are two types of atmos setup:
1) install ceiling speakers
2) change to reflection speaker or buy reflection speaker to put on top of the ur current front

i had tried reflection speaker last weekend.. the result pretty good.. but pricing of cos not going to be cheap as well..

the cheapest way is to buy a atmos enabled speaker and put on top of ur existing front for 5.1.2 or 7.1.2 and rear (if you want to) for 5.1.4 or 7.1.4

but sad case x2000 doesnt support atmos sweat.gif


front height susah sikit too close to front channel.. hard to differentiate if front standing or front height
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post Dec 27 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 12:07 PM)
On paper looks ok and efficiency seems high, but many said no bass, bad sound when paired with small sized amp.
BTW, you bought Mission floor stander already? What model you bought?
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not sure if can do bi-amp if bi-amp might improve if the speaker got potential.

plan change my friend.. after i read some review and comment here.. decided not to go with the entry level of mission.. the budget i concerntrate to change the center first.. improve vocal clarify over movies.. slowly change only i will think of changing front tower.
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post Dec 27 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 01:30 PM)
Yeah, aim those LX QX SX series.
Actually mission brand itself is entry level, higher end are those KEF, Dynaudio, Wilson Benesch..
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yea man but mission top end model worthy.. but the price is not cheap also.. if KEF, Dynaudio, B&W, Klipsch those lagi exp... i m thinking to get SVS for my center.. apologize if this get out of topic from the main forum here.. blush.gif
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post Dec 27 2018, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 03:09 PM)
x2000 can biamp. im using for front channel brows.gif
overall sound wont increase bass, just cleaner mid and high (without affected by bass signal) like real instrument suppose to.
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cool man.. none of my speakers allow biamp.. so its a region left unexplored yet.. brows.gif
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post Dec 28 2018, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 01:54 AM)
the 753s are not bass monsters despite them being floorstanders ..
turn the volume up a little and u get pretty satisfying tight low ends ... not the earthquake u would expect la
currently powered by a 80w/channel yamaha av amp .. more than sufficient volume to disturb the neighbours

for those more ground moving stuff i have a 10 inch sub  biggrin.gif
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how many speaker u connecting to it? Mind to share your cross over for the front?
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post Dec 28 2018, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:09 AM)
dont understand what u meant by crossover

5 speakers currently powered by the amp .. 2 x 753 ... 2 x small bookshelf ... center is a small one too
sub is an active 300w 10 inch
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not sure if you have a GUI similar like below.

The setting of 80hz for center is the cross over setting for center.

I m more familiar to audessey but i believe yahama should have something similar for your ypao
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post Dec 28 2018, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 28 2018, 09:11 AM)
i think he meant the crossover frequency set for your sub? like 80Hz 100Hz etc.
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for front actually hehe brows.gif Sub normally set low cross at 120hz for the standard theater setup.. if u set it to 80hz and ur front set 120hz then u will be missing 80hz to 120hz freq response. something like tat
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:17 AM)
no idea .. i use the analogue dial behind the sub to adjust
if just by looking at the dial positiion and numbers .. i would guess around 50-60 hz
sub gets input signal via main speakers connection ... not sub out from amp
sub out controls in amp is set to NOT USE so all bass signal in the system gets passed to main speakers
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very rare kind of setup.. the normal 1 i see is to have full signal to subwoofer and from subwoofer pass back mid n high freq to mains.

In your case i think the setup from amp is to have full range to be send to your main where low freq will be pass back to sub. nod.gif
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post Dec 28 2018, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:29 AM)
i just let the yamaha do whatever settings it needs to do
i just set the speakers sizes and do the setup using YPAO

the yamaha amp used is below par for mission .. but i am actually quite happy with what i am getting now
i know it can be alot better .. but that road to glory knows no ends and budget  lol.gif

lets put it this way ... when i sent my speakers for repairs i listened to custom built dynaudio speakers at mr Oh's place
those dynaudio may sing just a tad sweeter driven by dedicated stereo amp and source
but not by that much la ... me using PC as source only nowadays

all my CDs and vinyls lie collecting dust .. even my old turntable broke and was given away liau
CD player too broke and was thrown away lol.gif
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i think you still can explore more with the crossover setting if you want to.. i will improve your current setup too.. even my audessey does the reading.. i will still adjust the level, speeaker size and crossover myself for some minor tuning.
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post Dec 28 2018, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:32 AM)
when u listen in straight stereo mode .. u would want the main speakers to get the best and full signals
signal for sub tapped from mains for better coherence according to REL la .. which i find good
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ideally yes.. for stereo mode but when we want to go for 2.1 then the crossover need to be tweak so that the low freq will flow to sub rather than main or some ppl will do lfe+main for double bass. depends on the system a lot of posibilities for the bass management smile.gif

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