Can you still hear the lift noise even when your front doors are closed?

And for type G, the living room wall is a shared wall with one of the lifts. Do you think it'll be quite noisy? Anyone have experience in this? I was assured by the agent that the inside of the condo is very soundproof but as y'all know, they will blow smoke up your ass if they can land a sale.

If I tell you that there is no noise when I close the front door, it's a lie. Even when you don't share the walls you will still hear noise. Just that how bearable it is and that is very subjective. It may be bearable to me but it may not be for you.

By the way, you've not signed yet right? Better not drag too long and make a decision soon.

If you've just booked means you are most probably applying for loan now and that will maybe take a month. It may even be longer with the holidays and Raya coming. After that you'll need to arrange for signing, which may take a week. Try to sign before 30th June to be eligible for the HOC2019 campaign.

The HOC2019 campaign does not just apply to Avara. If you're still deciding between Avara and another project that's under the HOC2019 campaign, means you haven't started applying loan even. Time is running out mate. You're actually running a little tight as we speak if you ask me.

Unless, of course, you're buying cash where you don't need to apply a bank loan or considering a subsale or a project that's not under the campaign or you don't mind forgoing the things that are being offered in HOC2019 lah...

This post has been edited by lokgotz: May 18 2019, 06:53 AM

No offense but I feel like throughout this thread, you have been kinda singing the praises of Avara and nudging people to buy into this Project. I might be mistaken but I'm just slightly suspicious as to whether you have any ties with Avara/the developers or anything.

But yeah, the wall connecting to the lift's wall is really a concern for me. I don't want the wall rumbling or having to listen to the sound of the lift 24/7. Plus, I've read that units that have walls sharing with the lift has lower appreciation value and will have lower subsale price compared to units that do not. Now I feel like type G isn't that great after all...

I don't deny it. I am singing praises at the developer because I bought a unit there and it's my hopes that the project does well so that my investment will be worth it. Doesn't make sense if I say the developer is bad but I go buy one unit right?

I don't think I've "nudged" people to buy. If what I said about signing soon because of the HOC dateline, well that's a fact right? I may have "nudged" unconsciously and if that offends you, I apologise

With regards to the walls, I'm in no position to comment. I'm not an architect or an engineer. I'm merely sharing what my experience is at my current place.

I apologize if I was being too confrontational. It doesn't offend me, I was just reading earlier replies (because I also hope Avara does well) and I noticed it (or felt so).

Thanks for the heads up for the HOC dateline though. Will keep that in mind. Don't wanna pay that rm25k stamp duty on MOT lol

This is true but the electrical points tv points and etc are designed as per suggestive layout.

I thouyht developer is cina man company.....

But in western countries bed head rest against the window is common.

I know right? I just find it so odd. So if you install curtains, you can't move em because your bed will be leaning against it. and if you don't install curtains, you'll be blinded by the morning sun everyday.

I don't think the bed can be put facing the direction of the wardrobe either because according to the layout plan, there is a a pane of pillar (??? is this the right word? the wall thing that descends from the ceiling to hide the curtain rod) in that direction. If you look at the plans, it should be the zig-zag thing.

so not only is type g potentially having the lift noise problem because of the connecting walls (I hope not) but also this weird master bedroom layout. sigh.

no offence, what so good about this avara seputeh that is in between of menara seputeh and saville residence ?

Well, according to the replies previously throughout this thread,


- attention to detail (not so much for type G)
- niche developer so they will properly do this project because they want their reputation, etc (but goes both ways, can be bad as well because lack of experience)
- location?
- freehold?
- low density? (Which probably means higher maintanence fees)
- commercial shop lots (also goes both ways, personally would prefer without em)

What reputation to protect?

They are basically unknown in development scene here.
They have few projects in papua new guinea, thats all.

I meant, reputation to protect if they want to continue developing under the same name in Malaysia.

Of course, like I've said, it could go both ways. It could be that they don't really care and this is just a throwaway company to earn a quick buck. Who really knows.

For yr information, building regulation is a lot tougher in papua new guinea than malaysia bcos they blindlly folliow aus standard.

But whether they will carry their professionlism here or change to even better, time will tell.

Property development is a tough boz to be in in malaysia. Of you dun have the economics of scale...you die standing

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: May 19 2019, 08:25 PM

true, but let's see what they'll come out with when they VP. hopefully it'll be better than our expectations but more often than not, developers tend to overpromise, especially in their brochures. but we'll see

Roughly how much we can save when entitle HOC2019?

Avara pricing is actually giving more than 10% discount. If your refer their brochure, you will found their min SPA price is much higher. But they market at lower price.

Hence, they are with HOC just without the 10% discounts.

Anyone have any idea on when we get to sign the SYABAS form/ indemnity + TNB forms? I noticed that we weren't asked to sign those during the signing process.

roughly 3 to 6 mths before vped.

noted, meaning we dont actually benefit if we are entitle with the HOC promo?

You still do. You don't have to pay stamp duty on your facility agreement and SPA.

I'm curious. Does anyone know what Ba-sheng offered before the HOC scheme come into play? Did they include free MOT stamp duty or free Loan Document stamp duty?

lokgotz, I think you bought before the HOC came in right? Did they absorb the MOT stamp duty cost?


Sidenote: Anyone here have experience with Bravat/ Teka items? are they good? The sales agents emphasise on the quality of these brands and items offered but I don't think I've heard of Bravat or Teka before. Just mostly Electrolux and grohe (?)