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post Apr 29 2019, 08:25 AM

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For the owners that have bought units at Avara, I'm curious as to your reasoning for it?
- did you guys consider the opposite development, Tria@ nine seputeh?
- does the fact that Avara has shoplots downstairs concern you? I.e. not guarded/gated like other residential condos?

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post Apr 30 2019, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Apr 30 2019, 12:15 AM)
Tria Seputeh is just one phase of the whole 9Seputeh, which has 9 blocks and another commercial block. There will be a total of 10 blocks there. It is going to be super dense. Not to mention it is a leasehold title. Entrance from OKR is going to be a problem unless MRCB buys up the whole row of old shoplots there. If you noticed, the project is not at OKR itself. It's actually one road behind OKR. If you've tried coming from NPE, enter into 9Seputeh and try to go out to OKR, the roads are really narrow, especially when there will be 10 blocks there. Even as it is right now, where it's still not occupied, the roads are a nightmare.

With regards to the shoplots downstairs, there are only 2 large commercial area and a tiny one at the ground floor. The two large ones will most probably be a restaurant/cafe or some sort of showroom. I can't imagine any "shops" would want to rent such a large space. The tiny one is around 200sqft if I'm not wrong so that's quite unnoticeable. The other commercial areas are at the first floor where it will mostly be offices based on the design.

When it comes to guarded/gated, at least the carpark area is properly segregated. The lower floors are for the commercial areas and the higher floors are for the residents. The only problem with this is that residents will have to drive quite far up to get to their spot. I guess there is something that must be sacrificed.
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Thanks for the elaboration. What do you think about MRCB's plans for the walkway to mid valley though? Because I think the only walkable road from Avara to Mid valley is through some dark motorcycle tunnel which is not altogether that safe. And I don't think the shuttle bus idea would fly either because I feel like after the JMB is formed, everyone would probably cancel it to reduce costs?

Even though Tria is leasehold, at least it's fully residential? And i think avara has its own problems with the road system as well. It might be easy coming in but going out of OKR, you have to jam and do a U-turn then jam again. Thus, I'm just wondering what made yall choose avara over Tria. Is it the workmanship? The quick VP? Because Ba sheng is a new developer and all and y'never know
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post May 6 2019, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 6 2019, 12:47 AM)
What do you mean A and B?

If you're asking if the carparks are split level then yes, they are split. Means that there will be Level 3A, Level 3B, Level 4A, Level 4B and so on.

I personally feel this is better because this means that the ramps and driveway will be wider.
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Let me get this correct, you're saying that each level is subdivided into A and B. So, if my parking space is on the 8th floor, I would be turning 16 times? And I am assuming that the layout of the parking floors would be the usual drive up and make a turn at another corner.

Isn't that a bit.. much? You said it was a sacrifice that must be made for the quality etc. But I think it's kinda tough...? Like parking is such a daily commute thing that it would be so much of a handle going up and down.. especially if each floor is subdivided.

And you mentioned earlier that you asked about type C at the gallery. I thought you already bought type G???
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post May 6 2019, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ May 6 2019, 11:05 PM)
Let me get this correct, you're saying that each level is subdivided into A and B. So, if my parking space is on the 8th floor, I would be turning 16 times? And I am assuming that the layout of the parking floors would be the usual drive up and make a turn at another corner.

Isn't that a bit.. much? You said it was a sacrifice that must be made for the quality etc. But I think it's kinda tough...? Like parking is such a daily commute thing that it would be so much of a handle going up and down.. especially if each floor is subdivided.

And you mentioned earlier that you asked about type C at the gallery. I thought you already bought type G???
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Thus I think this is one of the reasons why I'm not so fond of how it's a commercial title etc with shoplots. Because if I'm not mistaken the first few levels of parking (1-3) are for visitors. Like.. why not just make it for residents so we would have an easier time parking? Geez
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post May 7 2019, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 6 2019, 11:30 PM)
The visitors are at the lower levels because of security. You don't want any Tom, Dick and Harry to go pass your Ferarris and Lamboghinis whenever they come visit someone.

So if a visitor comes to err...visit, the maximum they can go will be 3rd floor. That's it. Anything above will have to be registered.
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I see.. but correct me if I’m wrong but I think I’ve talked to one of the sales people before and they said the parking lots on the lower floors are mostly for those units on the lower floors/ facing the highway. And the units which do not face the highway and on the top floors have their parking lots on higher floors so it’s “fair” and incentivises people to get the not-so-great units.

By the way, do you know whether Avara qualifies under the new REHDA’s HOC program? I’m interested but doubt so because I think rehda said one of the requirements is that the developer has to offer 10% off SPA price. Do correct me if I’m mistaken.
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post May 15 2019, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 15 2019, 08:39 PM)
If everybody stays at ATAS place, then who will stay at non atas place?

You just to ask randomly in yr office. Of three dpc mk and okr, which one woild they choose if they have won a property in one of the 3 locales.

Okr is the trunck road...this is fact and its not the location.
Okr serving pjs oug desa kuchai and seputeh.

Already explained earlier...same logic w fedHwy.
Why are people here so stubborn.

Did you hear ppl said i live at ldp, or nkve or npe boh?
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Yeah apologies for the stubbornness and the random AF questions about everything. It's just that I'm a first time buyer and I feel so overwhelmed with everything. Not only are there a lot of developments offering bigger and better "stuff" like better environments, premium-ness, etc, but also so many other factors to take into account.

Like for example, I saw DPC Westside subsale quite similarly priced/slightly lower than Avara's prices and the first thing that I think about is why?

Tldr: it's very overwhelming as a first time prop buyer and I feel conflicted as f about everything
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post May 15 2019, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 15 2019, 09:02 PM)
Dpc is considered ATAS place by many people. Its literally a dream to be part of dpc....but not for me thought.

Dpc is not the center of gravity. Of certain concentrated areas, there will be an uppmarket area.

You dun buy and live in atas place for the sake of atas. You buy where most of yr social activities are.

If u think westside subsale is cheaper than avara, wait til you nego w buyer n you will see how low it can go. Published price is just asking price.

Also you need to consider avara is a boutique standalone development. Developer will done and dusted the project once it finishes.

Dpc is a township development. Developer still have 'responsibility' to care for the township until they completed all land.

P/s last thing to remember....the buying part is the easiest.
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Isn't a township better in that sense? Because the developer has a continuous obligation to constantly keep things nice whereas once a building is done and dusted, they can just don't care anymore (or worse.. use crappy materials in building it)
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post May 16 2019, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 16 2019, 09:25 AM)
haiz…..here we go again

if avara developer wants to have their own corporate office, why don't they build their HQ, owns the building and have its naming right as well?

once avara is completed, the cares and responsibility of the building, typically the resi units BY LAW will be handed back to residents, not Developer.
Am not sure who will maintain the retails or offices there. My guess will be the same jMb that took care of the resi units as well.

even if developer bought over few units of the retail space, their votes are not more than anyone else.  unless they so hor sim donating ten of thousand of ringgit each year to the sinking fund.

and as buyers out there for this project, you guys should be worried more if the developer also playing puppet at the back of jmb. they will work to THEIR advantage than your interest. Few developers openly doing this to their completed developments.

have you guys seen MahSIng HQ?
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Now I'm a bit afraid. Can you elaborate on how the developers can pull the strings? Because I thought each unit gets a vote etc and unless the developers own like 51% of the units in Avara, then they can't really pull the strings??

Also, are the unit owners paying for the commercial lots in the future? Is that why our maintanence charges+slinking fund is 0.40 sad.gif

Bu

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post May 16 2019, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 16 2019, 02:28 PM)
That means residents/owners have to be active lor. They have the right to stop the developer from doing whatever they want like you said but they choose not to/lazy. Can't blame the developer if the residents themselves are not active right?

Maintaining the building also benefits the residents. It's just that the developer is there to make sure that happens. But if the residents choose not to maintain it nicely because of the cost, then the developer can't do much, which is why I said because of their reputation, the may donate to the sinking fund to fund the maintenance themselves.

Anyway, clearly we can't come to a conclusion on this but thank you for the debate.  biggrin.gif
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Just wondering, were you the one that said you had a unit at avara? I think type G?
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post May 16 2019, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 16 2019, 05:53 PM)
Yes I was. And yes, Type G. Why?
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Nah, just curious hahaahah
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post May 17 2019, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 17 2019, 11:50 AM)
You bought yours? Which type?
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Haven't signed. Just placed booking for type G recently.
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post May 17 2019, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 17 2019, 11:47 AM)
all I can say is when the developer put a hand into the running jmb or even in case of 'owning' the management company, none of these buildings even been a success story. e.g. Regalia.

perhaps if anyone know of any building that directly or indirectly control by the developer but performed exceptionally well, do share.

no problem on conclusion. Just want to highlight and at least everyone is aware of what could be happening.
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I would've thought that the developers would do everything that is best for the development? Because they benefit from people seeing how pretty and well maintained it is? And this is even if they're having big say in the JMB.

So I don't see why the places e.g. regalia, whivh is controlled by the developer, would not be great?
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post May 17 2019, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 17 2019, 03:56 PM)
If you want to deal w a responsible developer that really care about what on offer and how to improve or compromise. Pls look up to suntrack.

They have 2 projects . One landed in cyber done and dusted and another one is riyang at happy garden/desa....

They even participate in tis forum, answering questions and doubt. Sometimes the big boss replied personally.

Tis is whar i called true involvement.

By the way riyang is now 100% sold out.....not vped yet.
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Well, fingers crossed for avara! Hahaha
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post May 19 2019, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 18 2019, 10:45 PM)
This is true but the electrical points tv points and etc are designed as per suggestive layout.

I thouyht developer is cina man company.....

But in western countries bed head rest against the window is common.
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I know right? I just find it so odd. So if you install curtains, you can't move em because your bed will be leaning against it. and if you don't install curtains, you'll be blinded by the morning sun everyday.

I don't think the bed can be put facing the direction of the wardrobe either because according to the layout plan, there is a a pane of pillar (??? is this the right word? the wall thing that descends from the ceiling to hide the curtain rod) in that direction. If you look at the plans, it should be the zig-zag thing.

so not only is type g potentially having the lift noise problem because of the connecting walls (I hope not) but also this weird master bedroom layout. sigh.
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post May 19 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 19 2019, 08:19 PM)
For yr information, building regulation is a lot tougher in papua new guinea than malaysia bcos they blindlly folliow aus standard.

But whether they will carry their professionlism here or change to even better, time will tell.

Property development is a tough boz to be in in malaysia. Of you dun have the economics of scale...you die standing
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true, but let's see what they'll come out with when they VP. hopefully it'll be better than our expectations but more often than not, developers tend to overpromise, especially in their brochures. but we'll see
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post May 25 2019, 11:48 PM

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I'm curious. Does anyone know what Ba-sheng offered before the HOC scheme come into play? Did they include free MOT stamp duty or free Loan Document stamp duty?

lokgotz, I think you bought before the HOC came in right? Did they absorb the MOT stamp duty cost?


Sidenote: Anyone here have experience with Bravat/ Teka items? are they good? The sales agents emphasise on the quality of these brands and items offered but I don't think I've heard of Bravat or Teka before. Just mostly Electrolux and grohe (?)
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post Oct 8 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Oct 8 2019, 11:21 AM)
AVARA is built for people who really stay in the house.. and those like southbank, petalz and etc are totally not comparable to AVARA.

Avara feature all built in with small little things that you think is useless, but actually speaks it is so important after you stay and compared with other project.

Talk about kitchen, already win 1000% hands down.

Other project may giv u built in kitchen cabinet with hob and hood. But no exhaust pipe out, only suck in filter by active carbon. In real life.. the kitchen will still stink becuz is useless not effective solution at all

Avara built in exhaust fan in kitchen point out to the building, more effective in taking out the cooking / frying oil steam.

Other project no giv such solution, so some owner go and reno and redo the exhaust fan and point towards balcony or condo airwell. This is a very shitty and selfish reno done by those owner, especially those that reno the exhaust fan to airwell.

One good example is petalz. Some inconsiderate owner go reno the kitchen exhaust fan to airwell, every time they cook (6/7am, 12pm, 5pm, 9pm) the whole airwell stink with their food, and all toilet window need to be shut. If no shut, whole house masuk their cooking gas oil smell. Imagine whole 40 storey kena becuz of the airwell

This problem wont go away. Petalz is 650k property with this kind of inherent problem forever, worth it ?

Avara already point exhaust fan outward, and not to airwell or wadsoever.

So small little thing like this actually counts.. yea abit expensive, but long run 30 years u will know that little expensive is worth it afterall
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Actually its the little things that made me choose Avara as well. I could've went with Tria and other projects but I didn't think the attention to detail was as good? granted, avara's price is higher.

I'm not sure whether developer will really implement it because it's not really stated in the SPA but I like the idea of them making an exhaust pipe out so the cooking fumes would be piped out instead of being kept in. I asked the agent this and they said each unit will have their own exhaust pipe out so there'll be like 350+ holes somewhere in the building or something.

The other thing is the balcony. I like the handles and the height. The addition of the sliding sun shade thingy is such a good idea that I would never have thought about. My one con is I would've hoped they use wooden floors instead of tiles for the living areas but oh well hahahaha
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post Oct 8 2019, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ Oct 8 2019, 09:51 PM)
Actually its the little things that made me choose Avara as well. I could've went with Tria and other projects but I didn't think the attention to detail was as good? granted, avara's price is higher.

I'm not sure whether developer will really implement it because it's not really stated in the SPA but I like the idea of them making an exhaust pipe out so the cooking fumes would be piped out instead of being kept in. I asked the agent this and they said each unit will have their own exhaust pipe out so there'll be like 350+ holes somewhere in the building or something.

The other thing is the balcony. I like the handles and the height. The addition of the sliding sun shade thingy is such a good idea that I would never have thought about. My one con is I would've hoped they use wooden floors instead of tiles for the living areas but oh well hahahaha
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I was also drawn to the idea of the kinetic facade thing. I thought it was the first in Malaysia to do it but as mentioned by someone earlier in this post, it isn't. I hope that the kinetic facade will be similar to the one used for Debenhams @ Oxford street London. It'll look so cool. I also hear that star residences (by Samsung) @ KLCC will be doing kinetic facade as well.
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post Oct 12 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(netken @ Oct 11 2019, 02:48 PM)
anyone notice a possible fly over road from federal highway heading to sungai besi and vice versa being built - the pillars seems to be getting ready ...
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is this the one in front of avara?
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post Jan 12 2021, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(JonathanIB @ Jan 12 2021, 09:26 AM)
I got referral to share
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What type of units are left?

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