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lokgotz
post May 6 2019, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(princess_s @ May 5 2019, 09:30 PM)
Need you guy's help to help me decide between Avara 915 sq ft VS The Address 2 1118 sq ft pls, its for own stay purposes.

Pros of Avara : (RM800K)
1) Superb quality
2) Superb location
3) Comes with quite a lot of stuff (teka fridge, stove, wardrobe etc)
Cons
1) 1 carpark only, not sure if in future can easily rent another car park or not.

Pros for The Address 2 (RM700K)
1) much more spacious compared to Avara
2) provide 2 car parks

Cons
1) nearby schools
2) lower resell value as compared to Avara
3) Quality not so good as compared to Avara. (duh)
4) Leasehold, not freehold
5) Does not provide partial furnitures

which one should i buy?  smile.gif  smile.gif
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Top up a bit more and get the ones that comes with 2 carparks. That solves your problem since there is only 1 con on your list. smile.gif
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post May 6 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 6 2019, 12:47 AM)
What do you mean A and B?

If you're asking if the carparks are split level then yes, they are split. Means that there will be Level 3A, Level 3B, Level 4A, Level 4B and so on.

I personally feel this is better because this means that the ramps and driveway will be wider.
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SA told me last time if the parking is at 8th floor, only need to turn 8 times, and not 16 times. So if it's level 3A and 3B, it means you need to turn 16 times to reach top floor?
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post May 6 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Candlenie @ May 6 2019, 10:40 AM)
SA told me last time if the parking is at 8th floor, only need to turn 8 times, and not 16 times. So if it's level 3A and 3B, it means you need to turn 16 times to reach top floor?
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The turning is the same even if it's split levels. You will still be turning only 8 rounds. Only instead of flat driveway on the turning, it will be ramps. As you turn, you go up.

Like I said earlier, by doing this, the driveway will be wider and it will be one way traffic.

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Consider this. One round, two turns. So if you turn 8 times, it will only be 4 rounds, i.e. 4 floors. I think the SA is wrong. I checked with the developer on this.

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post May 6 2019, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 6 2019, 03:52 PM)
The turning is the same even if it's split levels. You will still be turning only 8 rounds. Only instead of flat driveway on the turning, it will be ramps. As you turn, you go up.

Like I said earlier, by doing this, the driveway will be wider and it will be one way traffic.

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Consider this. One round, two turns. So if you turn 8 times, it will only be 4 rounds, i.e. 4 floors. I think the SA is wrong. I checked with the developer on this.
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ya...so to reach 8th floor, it will be 8 rounds, 16 times, right? bangwall.gif
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post May 6 2019, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 6 2019, 12:47 AM)
What do you mean A and B?

If you're asking if the carparks are split level then yes, they are split. Means that there will be Level 3A, Level 3B, Level 4A, Level 4B and so on.

I personally feel this is better because this means that the ramps and driveway will be wider.
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Let me get this correct, you're saying that each level is subdivided into A and B. So, if my parking space is on the 8th floor, I would be turning 16 times? And I am assuming that the layout of the parking floors would be the usual drive up and make a turn at another corner.

Isn't that a bit.. much? You said it was a sacrifice that must be made for the quality etc. But I think it's kinda tough...? Like parking is such a daily commute thing that it would be so much of a handle going up and down.. especially if each floor is subdivided.

And you mentioned earlier that you asked about type C at the gallery. I thought you already bought type G???
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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ May 6 2019, 11:05 PM)
Let me get this correct, you're saying that each level is subdivided into A and B. So, if my parking space is on the 8th floor, I would be turning 16 times? And I am assuming that the layout of the parking floors would be the usual drive up and make a turn at another corner.

Isn't that a bit.. much? You said it was a sacrifice that must be made for the quality etc. But I think it's kinda tough...? Like parking is such a daily commute thing that it would be so much of a handle going up and down.. especially if each floor is subdivided.

And you mentioned earlier that you asked about type C at the gallery. I thought you already bought type G???
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Thus I think this is one of the reasons why I'm not so fond of how it's a commercial title etc with shoplots. Because if I'm not mistaken the first few levels of parking (1-3) are for visitors. Like.. why not just make it for residents so we would have an easier time parking? Geez
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ May 6 2019, 06:18 PM)
ya...so to reach 8th floor, it will be 8 rounds, 16 times, right?  bangwall.gif
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Yeah. And to reach 4th floor, it will be 4 rounds, 8 times. To go one round, you need to turn twice. That's geometry. No?

Look at it this way. If you want a carpark that's on the lower floor, try to get the unit with a lower floor carpark attached to it. I don't think there is another way since that's the new Strata Act.
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post May 6 2019, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ May 6 2019, 11:05 PM)
Let me get this correct, you're saying that each level is subdivided into A and B. So, if my parking space is on the 8th floor, I would be turning 16 times? And I am assuming that the layout of the parking floors would be the usual drive up and make a turn at another corner.

Isn't that a bit.. much? You said it was a sacrifice that must be made for the quality etc. But I think it's kinda tough...? Like parking is such a daily commute thing that it would be so much of a handle going up and down.. especially if each floor is subdivided.

And you mentioned earlier that you asked about type C at the gallery. I thought you already bought type G???
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Yes. That's how a round shape work. Right?

The ramps are at the side and in the middle so you don't have to go from one end to the other.

It's more driving but less walking. I'd take it. I said the ramps and driveways are wider, I never said anything about the quality.

I bought a Type G. No harm asking about Type C. I go there whenever I'm free to check out the progress.

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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ May 6 2019, 11:15 PM)
Thus I think this is one of the reasons why I'm not so fond of how it's a commercial title etc with shoplots. Because if I'm not mistaken the first few levels of parking (1-3) are for visitors. Like.. why not just make it for residents so we would have an easier time parking? Geez
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The visitors are at the lower levels because of security. You don't want any Tom, Dick and Harry to go pass your Ferarris and Lamboghinis whenever they come visit someone.

So if a visitor comes to err...visit, the maximum they can go will be 3rd floor. That's it. Anything above will have to be registered.
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post May 7 2019, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 6 2019, 11:30 PM)
The visitors are at the lower levels because of security. You don't want any Tom, Dick and Harry to go pass your Ferarris and Lamboghinis whenever they come visit someone.

So if a visitor comes to err...visit, the maximum they can go will be 3rd floor. That's it. Anything above will have to be registered.
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I see.. but correct me if I’m wrong but I think I’ve talked to one of the sales people before and they said the parking lots on the lower floors are mostly for those units on the lower floors/ facing the highway. And the units which do not face the highway and on the top floors have their parking lots on higher floors so it’s “fair” and incentivises people to get the not-so-great units.

By the way, do you know whether Avara qualifies under the new REHDA’s HOC program? I’m interested but doubt so because I think rehda said one of the requirements is that the developer has to offer 10% off SPA price. Do correct me if I’m mistaken.
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post May 7 2019, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 6 2019, 11:25 PM)
Yeah. And to reach 4th floor, it will be 4 rounds, 8 times. To go one round, you need to turn twice. That's geometry. No?

Look at it this way. If you want a carpark that's on the lower floor, try to get the unit with a lower floor carpark attached to it. I don't think there is another way since that's the new Strata Act.
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The standard is the more expensive is your unit in absolute term, the lower carparking lots will be allocated.

Its the stupid and unfair way to allocate better or lower carpark lots to undesire units or small units.
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post May 7 2019, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ May 7 2019, 12:18 AM)
I see.. but correct me if I’m wrong but I think I’ve talked to one of the sales people before and they said the parking lots on the lower floors are mostly for those units on the lower floors/ facing the highway. And the units which do not face the highway and on the top floors have their parking lots on higher floors so it’s “fair” and incentivises people to get the not-so-great units.

By the way, do you know whether Avara qualifies under the new REHDA’s HOC program? I’m interested but doubt so because I think rehda said one of the requirements is that the developer has to offer 10% off SPA price. Do correct me if I’m mistaken.
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Not really. The lower level parking are for those units that are more expensive. However, there are two blocks, which is why the smaller block parking are at the lots right below it. It also means that even if you get a unit at the smaller block that is more expensive than the bigger block, the parking may be higher than the less expensive unit. You wouldn't want your parking to be at the corner of 3rd floor Block A but your unit is at Block B. It will be quite a distance to walk. That's the reason why I said just now, I'd rather drive than walk. Maybe I'm just lazy.

Avara does qualify for REDHA's HOC program. The project is listed in the HOC website and Avara announced it themselves in their FB page.

The developer has to offer 10% discount off the APPROVED price and the new price will become the SPA price. Avara's approved price from KPKT is much higher than their current price right now. How I know about this? I bought and signed the SPA before the HOC announcement so I don't get to enjoy it. sad.gif

Anyway, according to the HOC website, to be able to enjoy it, you will need to sign the SPA between 1st Jan 2019 and 30 June 2019. That means not much time left. So if you're interested, better act quick. wink.gif
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 7 2019, 12:26 AM)
The standard is the more expensive is your unit in absolute term, the lower carparking lots will be allocated.

Its the stupid and unfair way to allocate better or lower carpark lots to undesire units or small units.
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Well, their more expensive units are selling much faster than the less expensive ones. So I don't think their more expensive units are undesired.

I've surveyed a lot of projects before buying Avara. This is actually very normal. The more expensive your unit, the lower your carpark.

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 7 2019, 12:31 AM)
Well, their more expensive units are selling much faster than the less expensive ones. So I don't think their more expensive units are undesired.

I've surveyed a lot of projects before buying Avara. This is actually very normal. The more expensive your unit, the lower your carpark.
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I thought we were at the same wave lenght....

Why the debate???
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ May 7 2019, 12:34 AM)
I thought we were at the same wave lenght....

Why the debate???
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Are we? It's late. Hahah. I may have read wrongly. My bad. tongue.gif
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I see.. i was so weirded out about how type G units have their parking lot on the 7th and 8th floors.. but nonetheless still have to turn though..hmmm.

What are your views on property agents though? I think Ba Sheng has employed a quite a few property agents to market and sell this project. Does that mean that they are desperate? What are the implications? I feel like s lot of agents are pushing Avara quite hard and it turns me off a bit.
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QUOTE(Mashpotatoes @ May 7 2019, 12:51 AM)
I see.. i was so weirded out about how type G units have their parking lot on the 7th and 8th floors.. but nonetheless still have to turn though..hmmm.

What are your views on property agents though? I think Ba Sheng has employed a quite a few property agents to market and sell this project. Does that mean that they are desperate? What are the implications? I feel like s lot of agents are pushing Avara quite hard and it turns me off a bit.
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Maybe they just want to sell as much as they can? Cast a wider net, more fish. You can always ask as many questions as you want before signing the SPA. As long as you are not happy with it, don't sign. If you're not comfortable with the agents, maybe walk in and look for their in house staff? Or just message their FB page since they manage that themselves (I'm assuming since the FB page have access to the site for photos and all).

EDIT:
Just noticed that you changed your nickname?

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 7 2019, 12:57 AM)
Maybe they just want to sell as much as they can? Cast a wider net, more fish. You can always ask as many questions as you want before signing the SPA. As long as you are not happy with it, don't sign. If you're not comfortable with the agents, maybe walk in and look for their in house staff? Or just message their FB page since they manage that themselves (I'm assuming since the FB page have access to the site for photos and all).

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Just noticed that you changed your nickname?
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I don't think they have any in-house sales staff though. And yeah I changed my name (created a new account) because apparently my other account is still pending and already used up my post quota. I already activated it through my email but alas, still pending hahahahaha.

By the way, do you mind sharing which floor did you buy? (Or at least give an indication? Like somewhere between 1-10? 20-25? 20-30?) Because I'm curious as to whether higher floors are really all that worth the fad cause doesn't sound travel upwards and dust/smog too?

I guess you can have better views but isn't Taman Desai view just greeneries? Haha
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ May 7 2019, 12:29 AM)
However, there are two blocks, which is why the smaller block parking are at the lots right below it.
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Don't think so bro. My carpark is far away from the block i bought. My only hope is that they rent/sell carpark in future
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QUOTE(Mashpotatoes @ May 7 2019, 01:38 AM)
I don't think they have any in-house sales staff though. And yeah I changed my name (created a new account) because apparently my other account is still pending and already used up my post quota. I already activated it through my email but alas, still pending hahahahaha.

By the way, do you mind sharing which floor did you buy? (Or at least give an indication? Like somewhere between 1-10? 20-25? 20-30?) Because I'm curious as to whether higher floors are really all that worth the fad cause doesn't sound travel upwards and dust/smog too?

I guess you can have better views but isn't Taman Desai view just greeneries? Haha
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They do have a sales manager.

Mine is on the middle floors. I like it quite so Taman Desa view is actually perfect for me.

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