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Investment AVARA SEPUTEH, The real 5 minutes to Mid Valley City

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post Apr 28 2019, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(stoppy @ Apr 28 2019, 12:54 PM)
Let's gather the info, you buy Avara Seputeh is for own stay or invest?

stoppy - type g own stay
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Same here. Type G. Own stay.
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post Apr 29 2019, 08:25 AM

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For the owners that have bought units at Avara, I'm curious as to your reasoning for it?
- did you guys consider the opposite development, Tria@ nine seputeh?
- does the fact that Avara has shoplots downstairs concern you? I.e. not guarded/gated like other residential condos?

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post Apr 30 2019, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ Apr 29 2019, 08:25 AM)
For the owners that have bought units at Avara, I'm curious as to your reasoning for it?
- did you guys consider the opposite development, Tria@ nine seputeh?
- does the fact that Avara has shoplots downstairs concern you? I.e. not guarded/gated like other residential condos?
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Tria Seputeh is just one phase of the whole 9Seputeh, which has 9 blocks and another commercial block. There will be a total of 10 blocks there. It is going to be super dense. Not to mention it is a leasehold title. Entrance from OKR is going to be a problem unless MRCB buys up the whole row of old shoplots there. If you noticed, the project is not at OKR itself. It's actually one road behind OKR. If you've tried coming from NPE, enter into 9Seputeh and try to go out to OKR, the roads are really narrow, especially when there will be 10 blocks there. Even as it is right now, where it's still not occupied, the roads are a nightmare.

With regards to the shoplots downstairs, there are only 2 large commercial area and a tiny one at the ground floor. The two large ones will most probably be a restaurant/cafe or some sort of showroom. I can't imagine any "shops" would want to rent such a large space. The tiny one is around 200sqft if I'm not wrong so that's quite unnoticeable. The other commercial areas are at the first floor where it will mostly be offices based on the design.

When it comes to guarded/gated, at least the carpark area is properly segregated. The lower floors are for the commercial areas and the higher floors are for the residents. The only problem with this is that residents will have to drive quite far up to get to their spot. I guess there is something that must be sacrificed.

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post Apr 30 2019, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Apr 30 2019, 12:15 AM)
Tria Seputeh is just one phase of the whole 9Seputeh, which has 9 blocks and another commercial block. There will be a total of 10 blocks there. It is going to be super dense. Not to mention it is a leasehold title. Entrance from OKR is going to be a problem unless MRCB buys up the whole row of old shoplots there. If you noticed, the project is not at OKR itself. It's actually one road behind OKR. If you've tried coming from NPE, enter into 9Seputeh and try to go out to OKR, the roads are really narrow, especially when there will be 10 blocks there. Even as it is right now, where it's still not occupied, the roads are a nightmare.

With regards to the shoplots downstairs, there are only 2 large commercial area and a tiny one at the ground floor. The two large ones will most probably be a restaurant/cafe or some sort of showroom. I can't imagine any "shops" would want to rent such a large space. The tiny one is around 200sqft if I'm not wrong so that's quite unnoticeable. The other commercial areas are at the first floor where it will mostly be offices based on the design.

When it comes to guarded/gated, at least the carpark area is properly segregated. The lower floors are for the commercial areas and the higher floors are for the residents. The only problem with this is that residents will have to drive quite far up to get to their spot. I guess there is something that must be sacrificed.
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Thanks for the elaboration. What do you think about MRCB's plans for the walkway to mid valley though? Because I think the only walkable road from Avara to Mid valley is through some dark motorcycle tunnel which is not altogether that safe. And I don't think the shuttle bus idea would fly either because I feel like after the JMB is formed, everyone would probably cancel it to reduce costs?

Even though Tria is leasehold, at least it's fully residential? And i think avara has its own problems with the road system as well. It might be easy coming in but going out of OKR, you have to jam and do a U-turn then jam again. Thus, I'm just wondering what made yall choose avara over Tria. Is it the workmanship? The quick VP? Because Ba sheng is a new developer and all and y'never know
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passed by and noticed something as well, those bricks they used looks red. I thought standard construction method is using concrete brick?
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QUOTE(Creamypotatoes @ Apr 30 2019, 01:05 AM)
Thanks for the elaboration. What do you think about MRCB's plans for the walkway to mid valley though? Because I think the only walkable road from Avara to Mid valley is through some dark motorcycle tunnel which is not altogether that safe. And I don't think the shuttle bus idea would fly either because I feel like after the JMB is formed, everyone would probably cancel it to reduce costs?

Even though Tria is leasehold, at least it's fully residential? And i think avara has its own problems with the road system as well. It might be easy coming in but going out of OKR, you have to jam and do a U-turn then jam again. Thus, I'm just wondering what made yall choose avara over Tria. Is it the workmanship? The quick VP? Because Ba sheng is a new developer and all and y'never know
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According to the SA, MRCB's walkway to mid valley is 1.6km long. The first 1km is within the development while the remaining 600m is not. They will be maintaining the ones within the development but the remaining 600m will be maintained by DBKL. If you ask me, walking 1.6km is far. About 30 minutes maybe? For Avara, the motor road will also be maintained by DBKL and it's dark in one stretch but at least it's much, much nearer. I walked with the SA and it took me 7 minutes of casual walking to reach the money changer at MV. However, to be fair, both 9Seputeh and Avara are about the same when you consider the pros and cons.

If the JMB decides to cancel the shuttle bus, there is nothing much to be done. But to be honest, having or not having the shuttle bus doesn't really make a difference to me. I doubt I'll be using it often. It's something that's nice to have but not necessarily a need. Fun fact, it was actually Avara that started the whole shuttle bus thing . 9Seputeh didn't have a shuttle bus, until Avara was launched and out of a sudden, 9Seputeh has shuttle service as well.

For 9Seputeh, out of the 10 blocks, 7 is residential. 3 are commercial and they are not the small commercials. They are 3 whole buildings by itself. I'm not sure if they are huge towers or not though. During rush hour, the roads will be clogged up with 7 towers of residents going out/going home.

Road access for Avara via OKR, you can use the back way, which links to Taman Bukit Desa if you're going to KL. For Puchong/PJ side, you can go all the way to Taman Desa and exit, which skips the jam. My point is, for Avara, there are plenty of alternative routes going in and out of the development. If one road is jam, the other may not be. At least there is a choice.

What made me choose Avara over Tria? Personally, freehold vs leasehold is already a major factor. Ba Sheng being a new developer may not be a bad thing. This means that they will put more effort into making it a good project. They are not inexperienced though. They've been developing outside of Malaysia, although not high rise buildings.

I may be biased because I bought Avara but really, I don't think 9Seputeh holds a candle up to Avara.
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ Apr 30 2019, 11:34 AM)
passed by and noticed something as well, those bricks they used looks red. I thought standard construction method is using concrete brick?
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Errr...Isn't clay bricks (red bricks) much better than concrete bricks?
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post Apr 30 2019, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Apr 30 2019, 12:23 PM)
According to the SA, MRCB's walkway to mid valley is 1.6km long. The first 1km is within the development while the remaining 600m is not. They will be maintaining the ones within the development but the remaining 600m will be maintained by DBKL. If you ask me, walking 1.6km is far. About 30 minutes maybe? For Avara, the motor road will also be maintained by DBKL and it's dark in one stretch but at least it's much, much nearer. I walked with the SA and it took me 7 minutes of casual walking to reach the money changer at MV. However, to be fair, both 9Seputeh and Avara are about the same when you consider the pros and cons.

If the JMB decides to cancel the shuttle bus, there is nothing much to be done. But to be honest, having or not having the shuttle bus doesn't really make a difference to me. I doubt I'll be using it often. It's something that's nice to have but not necessarily a need. Fun fact, it was actually Avara that started the whole shuttle bus thing . 9Seputeh didn't have a shuttle bus, until Avara was launched and out of a sudden, 9Seputeh has shuttle service as well.

For 9Seputeh, out of the 10 blocks, 7 is residential. 3 are commercial and they are not the small commercials. They are 3 whole buildings by itself. I'm not sure if they are huge towers or not though. During rush hour, the roads will be clogged up with 7 towers of residents going out/going home.

Road access for Avara via OKR, you can use the back way, which links to Taman Bukit Desa if you're going to KL. For Puchong/PJ side, you can go all the way to Taman Desa and exit, which skips the jam. My point is, for Avara, there are plenty of alternative routes going in and out of the development. If one road is jam, the other may not be. At least there is a choice.

What made me choose Avara over Tria? Personally, freehold vs leasehold is already a major factor. Ba Sheng being a new developer may not be a bad thing. This means that they will put more effort into making it a good project. They are not inexperienced though. They've been developing outside of Malaysia, although not high rise buildings.

I may be biased because I bought Avara but really, I don't think 9Seputeh holds a candle up to Avara.
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Cant agree for more, i really think Avara Seputeh consider the best project in KL currently, compare with the density, the price, and what you get.
I do met with the boss Alex Koh, although they not a big organisation company but their financial status background is really strong, back in Papua New Guinea, their project only can sell after completed, so what you guys think how they manage to get the capital to built? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
Moreover,they built so fast as i pass by everytime, i believe they will finish before the completion date. hmm.gif hmm.gif

unfortunately the accessibility not that friendly and the sizes not big enough, if not, sure fully sold out, but who knows in the future what other development around there laugh.gif laugh.gif

I got a reliable agent can intro if anyone interested, now left not many units as he updated to me drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Apr 30 2019, 12:27 PM)
Errr...Isn't clay bricks (red bricks) much better than concrete bricks?
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wondering if it's clay or not. isnt clay a lot more expensive? Would be nice if any agent can find that out blush.gif
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post Apr 30 2019, 02:22 PM

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Saying that it's the best project in KL is an exaggeration. There are always pros and cons to things. Nothing is perfect.

Anyway, I'm happy with my purchase and really, you need to go to their sales gallery and have a look.
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ Apr 30 2019, 02:21 PM)
wondering if it's clay or not. isnt clay a lot more expensive? Would be nice if any agent can find that out  blush.gif
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It is clay. And yes, clay is more expensive.
The walls in the units are sheerwalls, i.e. concrete. So I guess clay bricks will only be used when bricks are needed, like carparks, which is what we see now.

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Apr 30 2019, 02:23 PM)
It is clay. And yes, clay is more expensive.
The walls in the units are sheerwalls, i.e. concrete. So I guess clay bricks will only be used when bricks are needed, like carparks, which is what we see now.
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ah cool. thanks for the info. seems like they are sealing up the carpark now.
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Apr 28 2019, 12:55 PM)
What do you mean?

Right now, you should be charged 20% only. 1st 10% is during signing of the SPA (excluding rebates), 2nd 10% is when they bill for work below ground (stage 2a). The third 15% will be billed when the construction reaches your unit. The developer cannot simply charge since this project is under HDA.

If your loan is 90%, the bank will settle the purchase price  for you from 2nd 10% onwards. You will only be serving interests for the 10% that they have paid. When the bank releases the 3rd payment of 15%, you will see that the bank will charge you more because they will be charging for 25% (2nd 10% and 3rd 15%).
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i think 15% never charge higher anymore... good if can retain until the house is complete biggrin.gif
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expensive. type C is 900/sqft already. G is almost 1k/sqft. and thats already after discount
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QUOTE(kimxkim @ May 1 2019, 09:37 PM)
expensive. type C is 900/sqft already. G is almost 1k/sqft. and thats already after discount
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I just asked for a Type C today (I had time so I went to the sales gallery to look at the construction progress). After discount is RM866/sqft. That is after the 7% rebate. I think the prices you got was before the rebates? And Type G is all sold out.

Don't forget, if you sign SPA before 30th June 2019, you'll get MOT waiver as well because of the HOC2019 campaign.

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QUOTE(kimxkim @ May 1 2019, 10:37 PM)
expensive. type C is 900/sqft already. G is almost 1k/sqft. and thats already after discount
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northpoint aldy hit 1k per sqf, this 850 psf is reasonable. some more this is low density
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I got Type C and it’s for own stay. Reason I chose this after more than a year of research is the location, low density and quality.
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anyone know if the parking floors is separated by A and B? SA told me no but from far it looks like it's A/B
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Need you guy's help to help me decide between Avara 915 sq ft VS The Address 2 1118 sq ft pls, its for own stay purposes.

Pros of Avara : (RM800K)
1) Superb quality
2) Superb location
3) Comes with quite a lot of stuff (teka fridge, stove, wardrobe etc)


Cons
1) 1 carpark only, not sure if in future can easily rent another car park or not.

Pros for The Address 2 (RM700K)
1) much more spacious compared to Avara
2) provide 2 car parks

Cons
1) nearby schools
2) lower resell value as compared to Avara
3) Quality not so good as compared to Avara. (duh)
4) Leasehold, not freehold
5) Does not provide partial furnitures

which one should i buy? smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ May 5 2019, 02:05 PM)
anyone know if the parking floors is separated by A and B? SA told me no but from far it looks like it's A/B
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What do you mean A and B?

If you're asking if the carparks are split level then yes, they are split. Means that there will be Level 3A, Level 3B, Level 4A, Level 4B and so on.

I personally feel this is better because this means that the ramps and driveway will be wider.

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